Re: [obsnw] Battery stolen from Mazda Tazz in Lower Collingwood Road.

2015-05-18 Thread Marc Turok
Frank’s statistics are very interesting!
57 reported batteries stolen in 2011
84 in two years 2012  2013.

There is a new method of microdot tracing of car parts that has improved 
tracking stolen goods but most of us do not know anything about it and where 
one can get it done!
Anyone know?

I personally do not think we should see protection of “Human Rights” as a 
negative thing that prevents acting on crime! Protection against false 
accusation is a good thing. 
We should not be acting without evidence to accuse people who may not be guilty 
but it is time we first get the evidence and then act! (Easier said than done!) 
 
Regards,
Marc



From: Frank Schuitemaker 
Sent: Monday, May 18, 2015 12:25 PM
To: The Observatory Neighbourhood watch 
Subject: Re: [obsnw] Battery stolen from Mazda Tazz in Lower Collingwood Road.

@ Barbara we looked last year at the increase of car breakages and it was 
apparent that since the lodge picked up clients the thefts increased. Yes the 
hire cars stand also out with advertisings as well as registration number from 
elsewhere. Also the overseas tenants are often way to careless by leaving items 
in the cars. Suggested long ago to the previous owners to speak to Howard of 
Green Elephant in regards to CCTV camera's and other precautions.


On the battery thefts this certainly picked up again and heard various 
residents having lost batteries. The last spurge in battery thefts were 57 
during 2011 when Saps only knew about a few. Once this was apparent and a few 
got caught  the number dropped e.g. during Oct 2011 and Dec 2013 84 batteries 
were reported stolen to Obsid, ONW. Unless reported the trend may not be 
obvious. Thus report, report, report even report if it was weeks ago.


The car guards were traditionally involved in all types of crime and don't see 
why it should be otherwise today, once years ago they were removed out from Obs 
and crime dropped drastically but we live in different times Human Right layers 
and all that.




On 18 May 2015 at 11:44, Barbara Anne Langridge langridge...@gmail.com wrote:

  What can be a solution.  Because these students bring income to the area and 
current security issues wrr a concern.   

  On 18 May 2015 10:58 AM, skoo...@intekom.co.za skoo...@intekom.co.za 
wrote:

We have a similar scenario here in James: foreign student accomodation in
several houses, backpackers around the corner, several rental cars always
parked in our road. These are often the cars which are being stolen,
un-batteried or broken into. We have had an additional problem with car
guards trying to extort exorbitant protection sums from these travellers,
with refusal being met with a smashed window upon return.

Original email:
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From: Barbara Langridge langridge...@gmail.com
Date: Mon, 18 May 2015 09:41:01 +0200
To: obsnw@googlegroups.com, officead...@obsid.org.za, c...@obsid.org.za
Subject: RE: [obsnw] Battery stolen from Mazda Tazz in Lower Collingwood
Road.


Hallo,



Car was stolen from outside 6 Irwell Street,



Its strange that all cars that are vandalised or damaged, broken into, and
now stolen, are those that are Hire Cars for students staying at Makulu
Lodge.



Sometimes I think there is someone on the street who is responsible.



I did report the theft to OBSID and the police.



Thanks.



Barbara Langridge





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Sent: 18 May 2015 09:01 AM
To: obsnw@googlegroups.com
Cc: Claudine Lewis (OBSID); Brian Amery Coo
Subject: [obsnw] Battery stolen from Mazda Tazz in Lower Collingwood Road.



My neighbours informed me this morning that they discovered that the
battery was removed from the car.



Thanks



Johan Beaurain



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RE: [obsnw] Battery stolen from Mazda Tazz in Lower Collingwood Road.

2015-05-18 Thread Barbara Langridge
Hallo,

 

Car was stolen from outside 6 Irwell Street,

 

Its strange that all cars that are vandalised or damaged, broken into, and now 
stolen, are those that are Hire Cars for students staying at Makulu Lodge.

 

Sometimes I think there is someone on the street who is responsible.  

 

I did report the theft to OBSID and the police.

 

Thanks.

 

Barbara Langridge

 

 

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Sent: 18 May 2015 09:01 AM
To: obsnw@googlegroups.com
Cc: Claudine Lewis (OBSID); Brian Amery Coo
Subject: [obsnw] Battery stolen from Mazda Tazz in Lower Collingwood Road.

 

My neighbours informed me this morning that they discovered that the battery 
was removed from the car.

 

Thanks

 

Johan Beaurain

 

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Re: [obsnw] Re: ATM scam - Lower Main Rd

2015-05-18 Thread Marc Turok
If there is evidence that can be testified plus a photo of the individuals 
involved, it should help to make this information to police and OBSID Ops.
How many vulnerable people need to be scammed before they get picked up?
Marc

From: Nikki - Flippers Swim School 
Sent: Monday, May 18, 2015 11:54 AM
To: obsnw@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: [obsnw] Re: ATM scam - Lower Main Rd

Over Christmas I had the same happen to me at that ATM.. Even when I walked 
away they still tried to get me to come back. 

 

 

Nikki Britz

Flippers Swim School

Observatory

021 4470909

083 7479196

i...@flippersswimschool.co.za

 



 

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Sent: 18 May 2015 11:48
To: obsnw@googlegroups.com
Subject: [obsnw] Re: ATM scam - Lower Main Rd

 

On at least 3 different occasions last week, I spotted these scammers at the 
same ATM. The short guy seems to be the main instigator and seems to work with 
different accomplices. The first time, as I was approaching, I warned the 
tourist who was about to have his card skimmed and they disappeared around the 
corner down Trill Road towards the Spar. Following that, they run around the 
corner when they see me approaching.  I have now emailed Nedbank tipoffs and 
asked them to get involved. 

On Wednesday, May 6, 2015 at 8:25:23 PM UTC+2, Craig Bartlett wrote:

There is a scam being run at the Nedbank ATM in Lower Main Rd.

 

While I was withdrawing money from the ATM a young short male stood behind me 
slightly off to my right. I immediately became suspicious, he very quickly 
approached the ATM as I started to walk away. 

 

As I looked back I noticed that he was in possession of a Nedbank Debit Card so 
I continued walking a few steps. He then pressed a few buttons and brought up a 
screen asking for a telephone number to be inserted and called me back saying 
that I needed to re-insert my card because my transaction was still open and 
that the bank would continue to charge me.

 

I walked back to the ATM to check and pressed cancel bringing up the start 
screen and told him that he could continue. As I walked away he called me back 
again saying that my transaction was still open again with a screen asking for 
a telephone number to be entered.

 

Again I pressed cancel and refused to re-insert my card. At this point a young 
tall male walked up and asked me if the ATM was working. I insisted that it was 
and motioned him to proceed with his transaction. This time he pulled up the 
same screen asking for a telephone number and repeat that I need to close the 
transaction.

 

At this point I insisted that they were running a scam. As I walked away I was 
approached by an individual further down the street who discreetly confirmed 
that it was a scam and that I should be careful. I reported the incident to 
OBSID asking that they check their footage to see if they can identify the two 
young men. The Incident happened at 18h40 and has also been reported to SAPS.

 

They were both young and slim, dressed like young students (jeans, hoodies, 
cap). The first male was very short and the second very tall. Both spoke with 
South African accents. 

   

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Re: [obsnw] Battery stolen from Mazda Tazz in Lower Collingwood Road.

2015-05-18 Thread Frank Schuitemaker
Thanks for your observations Marc, the statistics even drilled down to
days, hours and streets where batteries were likely to be stolen next, ONW
used this to do their patrols this broke maybe the cycle when the police
where not even aware of the full extend. Majority of the thefts were not
reported and/or stats didn't mention battery but merely theft out or from
vehicle. ONW involvement with chatting, this group etc revealed much of the
real story but was likely still much less than the reality.

Was introduced though my insurance survey work  to microdots some 20 years
ago by Elvey Security who are still in Observatory, it's not only for cars
but for any item, each of the billions of droplets from a small bottle
carries the finger print unique to the owner. The technology is simple but
the challenge is that the various law enforcements are not always equipped
to test (the few) stolen item and that's due to a mass of competing
products.

Don't see Human Rights as purely negative but it can take cops and ops of
the beat for hours even days if the layers decide so thus yes we need more
proof. The way forward is more willing eyes and ears as well as a
determination to report and see matters through with laying charges and be
prepared to go to court. BTW the Cops and Ops are normally right on it and
it's only has to do a couple of patrols and/or be observant to know what's
happening but yes it's the proof we need.

Observatory has 35 kilometres of streets and one can imagine it takes at
least three cops of ops personal to monitor each km permanently, this is
where residents can play their role under the umbrella of the ONW if we
have 3 or 4 residents p/km reporting matters they observe we will win this
battle. Together we can.





On 18 May 2015 at 17:27, Marc Turok marctu...@telkomsa.net wrote:

   Frank’s statistics are very interesting!
 57 reported batteries stolen in 2011
 84 in two years 2012  2013.

 There is a new method of microdot tracing of car parts that has improved
 tracking stolen goods but most of us do not know anything about it and
 where one can get it done!
 Anyone know?

 I personally do not think we should see protection of “Human Rights” as a
 negative thing that prevents acting on crime! Protection against false
 accusation is a good thing.
 We should not be acting without evidence to accuse people who may not be
 guilty but it is time we first get the evidence and then act! (Easier said
 than done!)
 Regards,
 Marc



  *From:* Frank Schuitemaker fschuitema...@gmail.com
 *Sent:* Monday, May 18, 2015 12:25 PM
 *To:* The Observatory Neighbourhood watch obsnw@googlegroups.com
 *Subject:* Re: [obsnw] Battery stolen from Mazda Tazz in Lower
 Collingwood Road.

   @ Barbara we looked last year at the increase of car breakages and it
 was apparent that since the lodge picked up clients the thefts increased.
 Yes the hire cars stand also out with advertisings as well as registration
 number from elsewhere. Also the overseas tenants are often way to careless
 by leaving items in the cars. Suggested long ago to the previous owners to
 speak to Howard of Green Elephant in regards to CCTV camera's and other
 precautions.

 On the battery thefts this certainly picked up again and heard various
 residents having lost batteries. The last spurge in battery thefts were 57
 during 2011 when Saps only knew about a few. Once this was apparent and a
 few got caught  the number dropped e.g. during Oct 2011 and Dec 2013 84
 batteries were reported stolen to Obsid, ONW. Unless reported the trend may
 not be obvious. Thus report, report, report even report if it was weeks ago.

 The car guards were traditionally involved in all types of crime and don't
 see why it should be otherwise today, once years ago they were removed out
 from Obs and crime dropped drastically but we live in different times Human
 Right layers and all that.



 On 18 May 2015 at 11:44, Barbara Anne Langridge langridge...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 What can be a solution.  Because these students bring income to the area
 and current security issues wrr a concern.
  On 18 May 2015 10:58 AM, skoo...@intekom.co.za skoo...@intekom.co.za
 wrote:

 We have a similar scenario here in James: foreign student accomodation in
 several houses, backpackers around the corner, several rental cars always
 parked in our road. These are often the cars which are being stolen,
 un-batteried or broken into. We have had an additional problem with car
 guards trying to extort exorbitant protection sums from these travellers,
 with refusal being met with a smashed window upon return.

 Original email:
 -
 From: Barbara Langridge langridge...@gmail.com
 Date: Mon, 18 May 2015 09:41:01 +0200
 To: obsnw@googlegroups.com, officead...@obsid.org.za, c...@obsid.org.za
 Subject: RE: [obsnw] Battery stolen from Mazda Tazz in Lower Collingwood
 Road.


 Hallo,



 Car was stolen from outside 6 Irwell Street,



 Its strange that all cars that are vandalised or 

Re: [obsnw] Battery stolen from Mazda Tazz in Lower Collingwood Road.

2015-05-18 Thread Jenny Calder

Frank you're a gem!:-)

On 2015/05/18 18:30, Frank Schuitemaker wrote:
Thanks for your observations Marc, the statistics even drilled down to 
days, hours and streets where batteries were likely to be stolen next, 
ONW used this to do their patrols this broke maybe the cycle when the 
police where not even aware of the full extend. Majority of the thefts 
were not reported and/or stats didn't mention battery but merely theft 
out or from vehicle. ONW involvement with chatting, this group etc 
revealed much of the real story but was likely still much less than 
the reality.


Was introduced though my insurance survey work  to microdots some 20 
years ago by Elvey Security who are still in Observatory, it's not 
only for cars but for any item, each of the billions of droplets from 
a small bottle carries the finger print unique to the owner. The 
technology is simple but the challenge is that the various law 
enforcements are not always equipped to test (the few) stolen item and 
that's due to a mass of competing products.


Don't see Human Rights as purely negative but it can take cops and ops 
of the beat for hours even days if the layers decide so thus yes we 
need more proof. The way forward is more willing eyes and ears as well 
as a determination to report and see matters through with laying 
charges and be prepared to go to court. BTW the Cops and Ops are 
normally right on it and it's only has to do a couple of patrols 
and/or be observant to know what's happening but yes it's the proof we 
need.


Observatory has 35 kilometres of streets and one can imagine it takes 
at least three cops of ops personal to monitor each km permanently, 
this is where residents can play their role under the umbrella of the 
ONW if we have 3 or 4 residents p/km reporting matters they observe we 
will win this battle. Together we can.






On 18 May 2015 at 17:27, Marc Turok marctu...@telkomsa.net 
mailto:marctu...@telkomsa.net wrote:


Frank’s statistics are very interesting!
57 reported batteries stolen in 2011
84 in two years 2012  2013.
There is a new method of microdot tracing of car parts that has
improved tracking stolen goods but most of us do not know anything
about it and where one can get it done!
Anyone know?
I personally do not think we should see protection of “Human
Rights” as a negative thing that prevents acting on crime!
Protection against false accusation is a good thing.
We should not be acting without evidence to accuse people who may
not be guilty but it is time we first get the evidence and then
act! (Easier said than done!)
Regards,
Marc
*From:* Frank Schuitemaker mailto:fschuitema...@gmail.com
*Sent:* Monday, May 18, 2015 12:25 PM
*To:* The Observatory Neighbourhood watch
mailto:obsnw@googlegroups.com
*Subject:* Re: [obsnw] Battery stolen from Mazda Tazz in Lower
Collingwood Road.
@ Barbara we looked last year at the increase of car breakages and
it was apparent that since the lodge picked up clients the thefts
increased. Yes the hire cars stand also out with advertisings as
well as registration number from elsewhere. Also the overseas
tenants are often way to careless by leaving items in the cars.
Suggested long ago to the previous owners to speak to Howard of
Green Elephant in regards to CCTV camera's and other precautions.

On the battery thefts this certainly picked up again and heard
various residents having lost batteries. The last spurge in
battery thefts were 57 during 2011 when Saps only knew about a
few. Once this was apparent and a few got caught  the number
dropped e.g. during Oct 2011 and Dec 2013 84 batteries were
reported stolen to Obsid, ONW. Unless reported the trend may not
be obvious. Thus report, report, report even report if it was
weeks ago.

The car guards were traditionally involved in all types of crime
and don't see why it should be otherwise today, once years ago
they were removed out from Obs and crime dropped drastically but
we live in different times Human Right layers and all that.


On 18 May 2015 at 11:44, Barbara Anne Langridge
langridge...@gmail.com mailto:langridge...@gmail.com wrote:

What can be a solution.  Because these students bring income
to the area and current security issues wrr a concern.

On 18 May 2015 10:58 AM, skoo...@intekom.co.za
mailto:skoo...@intekom.co.za skoo...@intekom.co.za
mailto:skoo...@intekom.co.za wrote:

We have a similar scenario here in James: foreign student
accomodation in
several houses, backpackers around the corner, several
rental cars always
parked in our road. These are often the cars which are
being stolen,
un-batteried or broken into. We have had an additional
problem with car
guards trying to extort 

[obsnw] Battery stolen from Mazda Tazz in Lower Collingwood Road.

2015-05-18 Thread Johan Beaurain
My neighbours informed me this morning that they discovered that the
battery was removed from the car.

Thanks

Johan Beaurain

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RE: [obsnw] Battery stolen from Mazda Tazz in Lower Collingwood Road.

2015-05-18 Thread skoo...@intekom.co.za
We have a similar scenario here in James: foreign student accomodation in
several houses, backpackers around the corner, several rental cars always
parked in our road. These are often the cars which are being stolen,
un-batteried or broken into. We have had an additional problem with car
guards trying to extort exorbitant protection sums from these travellers,
with refusal being met with a smashed window upon return.

Original email:
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From: Barbara Langridge langridge...@gmail.com
Date: Mon, 18 May 2015 09:41:01 +0200
To: obsnw@googlegroups.com, officead...@obsid.org.za, c...@obsid.org.za
Subject: RE: [obsnw] Battery stolen from Mazda Tazz in Lower Collingwood
Road.


Hallo,

 

Car was stolen from outside 6 Irwell Street,

 

Its strange that all cars that are vandalised or damaged, broken into, and
now stolen, are those that are Hire Cars for students staying at Makulu
Lodge.

 

Sometimes I think there is someone on the street who is responsible.  

 

I did report the theft to OBSID and the police.

 

Thanks.

 

Barbara Langridge

 

 

From: obsnw@googlegroups.com [mailto:obsnw@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of
Johan Beaurain
Sent: 18 May 2015 09:01 AM
To: obsnw@googlegroups.com
Cc: Claudine Lewis (OBSID); Brian Amery Coo
Subject: [obsnw] Battery stolen from Mazda Tazz in Lower Collingwood Road.

 

My neighbours informed me this morning that they discovered that the
battery was removed from the car.

 

Thanks

 

Johan Beaurain

 

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Re: [obsnw] Battery stolen from Mazda Tazz in Lower Collingwood Road.

2015-05-18 Thread Jenny Calder
Is there perhaps a connection? Are the car guards informing the people 
responsible for theft? Is this a syndicate thing that targets car hire 
vehicles which are known to be insured and possibly less fussed over?


On 2015/05/18 10:58, skoo...@intekom.co.za wrote:

We have a similar scenario here in James: foreign student accomodation in
several houses, backpackers around the corner, several rental cars always
parked in our road. These are often the cars which are being stolen,
un-batteried or broken into. We have had an additional problem with car
guards trying to extort exorbitant protection sums from these travellers,
with refusal being met with a smashed window upon return.

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From: Barbara Langridge langridge...@gmail.com
Date: Mon, 18 May 2015 09:41:01 +0200
To: obsnw@googlegroups.com, officead...@obsid.org.za, c...@obsid.org.za
Subject: RE: [obsnw] Battery stolen from Mazda Tazz in Lower Collingwood
Road.


Hallo,

  


Car was stolen from outside 6 Irwell Street,

  


Its strange that all cars that are vandalised or damaged, broken into, and
now stolen, are those that are Hire Cars for students staying at Makulu
Lodge.

  


Sometimes I think there is someone on the street who is responsible.

  


I did report the theft to OBSID and the police.

  


Thanks.

  


Barbara Langridge

  

  


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Sent: 18 May 2015 09:01 AM
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Cc: Claudine Lewis (OBSID); Brian Amery Coo
Subject: [obsnw] Battery stolen from Mazda Tazz in Lower Collingwood Road.

  


My neighbours informed me this morning that they discovered that the
battery was removed from the car.

  


Thanks

  


Johan Beaurain

  



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RE: [obsnw] Battery stolen from Mazda Tazz in Lower Collingwood Road.

2015-05-18 Thread Barbara Anne Langridge
What can be a solution.  Because these students bring income to the area
and current security issues wrr a concern.
On 18 May 2015 10:58 AM, skoo...@intekom.co.za skoo...@intekom.co.za
wrote:

 We have a similar scenario here in James: foreign student accomodation in
 several houses, backpackers around the corner, several rental cars always
 parked in our road. These are often the cars which are being stolen,
 un-batteried or broken into. We have had an additional problem with car
 guards trying to extort exorbitant protection sums from these travellers,
 with refusal being met with a smashed window upon return.

 Original email:
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 From: Barbara Langridge langridge...@gmail.com
 Date: Mon, 18 May 2015 09:41:01 +0200
 To: obsnw@googlegroups.com, officead...@obsid.org.za, c...@obsid.org.za
 Subject: RE: [obsnw] Battery stolen from Mazda Tazz in Lower Collingwood
 Road.


 Hallo,



 Car was stolen from outside 6 Irwell Street,



 Its strange that all cars that are vandalised or damaged, broken into, and
 now stolen, are those that are Hire Cars for students staying at Makulu
 Lodge.



 Sometimes I think there is someone on the street who is responsible.



 I did report the theft to OBSID and the police.



 Thanks.



 Barbara Langridge





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 Sent: 18 May 2015 09:01 AM
 To: obsnw@googlegroups.com
 Cc: Claudine Lewis (OBSID); Brian Amery Coo
 Subject: [obsnw] Battery stolen from Mazda Tazz in Lower Collingwood Road.



 My neighbours informed me this morning that they discovered that the
 battery was removed from the car.



 Thanks



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[obsnw] Re: ATM scam - Lower Main Rd

2015-05-18 Thread Jenny Calder
On at least 3 different occasions last week, I spotted these scammers at 
the same ATM. The short guy seems to be the main instigator and seems to 
work with different accomplices. The first time, as I was approaching, I 
warned the tourist who was about to have his card skimmed and they 
disappeared around the corner down Trill Road towards the Spar. Following 
that, they run around the corner when they see me approaching.  I have now 
emailed Nedbank tipoffs and asked them to get involved. 

On Wednesday, May 6, 2015 at 8:25:23 PM UTC+2, Craig Bartlett wrote:

 There is a scam being run at the Nedbank ATM in Lower Main Rd.

 While I was withdrawing money from the ATM a young short male stood behind 
 me slightly off to my right. I immediately became suspicious, he very 
 quickly approached the ATM as I started to walk away. 

 As I looked back I noticed that he was in possession of a Nedbank Debit 
 Card so I continued walking a few steps. He then pressed a few buttons and 
 brought up a screen asking for a telephone number to be inserted and called 
 me back saying that I needed to re-insert my card because my transaction 
 was still open and that the bank would continue to charge me.

 I walked back to the ATM to check and pressed cancel bringing up the start 
 screen and told him that he could continue. As I walked away he called me 
 back again saying that my transaction was still open again with a screen 
 asking for a telephone number to be entered.

 Again I pressed cancel and refused to re-insert my card. At this point a 
 young tall male walked up and asked me if the ATM was working. I insisted 
 that it was and motioned him to proceed with his transaction. This time he 
 pulled up the same screen asking for a telephone number and repeat that I 
 need to close the transaction.

 At this point I insisted that they were running a scam. As I walked away I 
 was approached by an individual further down the street who discreetly 
 confirmed that it was a scam and that I should be careful. I reported the 
 incident to OBSID asking that they check their footage to see if they can 
 identify the two young men. The Incident happened at 18h40 and has also 
 been reported to SAPS.

 They were both young and slim, dressed like young students (jeans, 
 hoodies, cap). The first male was very short and the second very tall. Both 
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Re: [obsnw] Battery stolen from Mazda Tazz in Lower Collingwood Road.

2015-05-18 Thread Marc Turok
Hey, 
To me this is a classic case that should be responded with a stake-out and 
secret camera, to catch the people responsible and end this criminal abuse!
Better no car guard than an under cover extortion specialist who gives 
assistance to thieves.
Marc 

-Original Message- 
From: skoo...@intekom.co.za 
Sent: Monday, May 18, 2015 10:58 AM 
To: obsnw@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: [obsnw] Battery stolen from Mazda Tazz in Lower Collingwood Road. 

We have a similar scenario here in James: foreign student accomodation in
several houses, backpackers around the corner, several rental cars always
parked in our road. These are often the cars which are being stolen,
un-batteried or broken into. We have had an additional problem with car
guards trying to extort exorbitant protection sums from these travellers,
with refusal being met with a smashed window upon return.

Original email:
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From: Barbara Langridge langridge...@gmail.com
Date: Mon, 18 May 2015 09:41:01 +0200
To: obsnw@googlegroups.com, officead...@obsid.org.za, c...@obsid.org.za
Subject: RE: [obsnw] Battery stolen from Mazda Tazz in Lower Collingwood
Road.


Hallo,



Car was stolen from outside 6 Irwell Street,



Its strange that all cars that are vandalised or damaged, broken into, and
now stolen, are those that are Hire Cars for students staying at Makulu
Lodge.



Sometimes I think there is someone on the street who is responsible.  



I did report the theft to OBSID and the police.



Thanks.



Barbara Langridge





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Sent: 18 May 2015 09:01 AM
To: obsnw@googlegroups.com
Cc: Claudine Lewis (OBSID); Brian Amery Coo
Subject: [obsnw] Battery stolen from Mazda Tazz in Lower Collingwood Road.



My neighbours informed me this morning that they discovered that the
battery was removed from the car.



Thanks



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Fwd: Re: [obsnw] Battery stolen from Mazda Tazz in Lower Collingwood Road.

2015-05-18 Thread Jenny Calder




 Forwarded Message 
Subject: 	Re: [obsnw] Battery stolen from Mazda Tazz in Lower 
Collingwood Road.

Date:   Mon, 18 May 2015 11:27:13 +0200
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Thanks Marc, my sentiments exactly.
Jenny

On 2015/05/18 11:17, Marc Turok wrote:

Hey,
To me this is a classic case that should be responded with a 
*_stake-out and secret camera_*, /to catch the people responsible and 
end this criminal abuse!/
Better no car guard than an under cover extortion specialist who gives 
assistance to thieves.

Marc
-Original Message-
From: skoo...@intekom.co.za
Sent: Monday, May 18, 2015 10:58 AM
To: obsnw@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [obsnw] Battery stolen from Mazda Tazz in Lower 
Collingwood Road.

We have a similar scenario here in James: foreign student accomodation in
several houses, backpackers around the corner, several rental cars always
parked in our road. These are often the cars which are being stolen,
un-batteried or broken into. We have had an additional problem with car
guards trying to extort exorbitant protection sums from these travellers,
with refusal being met with a smashed window upon return.
Original email:
-
From: Barbara Langridge langridge...@gmail.com
Date: Mon, 18 May 2015 09:41:01 +0200
To: obsnw@googlegroups.com, officead...@obsid.org.za, c...@obsid.org.za
Subject: RE: [obsnw] Battery stolen from Mazda Tazz in Lower Collingwood
Road.
Hallo,
Car was stolen from outside 6 Irwell Street,
Its strange that all cars that are vandalised or damaged, broken into, and
now stolen, are those that are Hire Cars for students staying at Makulu
Lodge.
Sometimes I think there is someone on the street who is responsible.
I did report the theft to OBSID and the police.
Thanks.
Barbara Langridge
From: obsnw@googlegroups.com [mailto:obsnw@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of
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Sent: 18 May 2015 09:01 AM
To: obsnw@googlegroups.com
Cc: Claudine Lewis (OBSID); Brian Amery Coo
Subject: [obsnw] Battery stolen from Mazda Tazz in Lower Collingwood Road.
My neighbours informed me this morning that they discovered that the
battery was removed from the car.
Thanks
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Re: [obsnw] Battery stolen from Mazda Tazz in Lower Collingwood Road.

2015-05-18 Thread jaims art

Thanks Marc, my sentiments exactly.
Jenny

On 2015/05/18 11:17, Marc Turok wrote:

Hey,
To me this is a classic case that should be responded with a 
*_stake-out and secret camera_*, /to catch the people responsible and 
end this criminal abuse!/
Better no car guard than an under cover extortion specialist who gives 
assistance to thieves.

Marc
-Original Message-
From: skoo...@intekom.co.za
Sent: Monday, May 18, 2015 10:58 AM
To: obsnw@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [obsnw] Battery stolen from Mazda Tazz in Lower 
Collingwood Road.

We have a similar scenario here in James: foreign student accomodation in
several houses, backpackers around the corner, several rental cars always
parked in our road. These are often the cars which are being stolen,
un-batteried or broken into. We have had an additional problem with car
guards trying to extort exorbitant protection sums from these travellers,
with refusal being met with a smashed window upon return.
Original email:
-
From: Barbara Langridge langridge...@gmail.com
Date: Mon, 18 May 2015 09:41:01 +0200
To: obsnw@googlegroups.com, officead...@obsid.org.za, c...@obsid.org.za
Subject: RE: [obsnw] Battery stolen from Mazda Tazz in Lower Collingwood
Road.
Hallo,
Car was stolen from outside 6 Irwell Street,
Its strange that all cars that are vandalised or damaged, broken into, and
now stolen, are those that are Hire Cars for students staying at Makulu
Lodge.
Sometimes I think there is someone on the street who is responsible.
I did report the theft to OBSID and the police.
Thanks.
Barbara Langridge
From: obsnw@googlegroups.com [mailto:obsnw@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of
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Sent: 18 May 2015 09:01 AM
To: obsnw@googlegroups.com
Cc: Claudine Lewis (OBSID); Brian Amery Coo
Subject: [obsnw] Battery stolen from Mazda Tazz in Lower Collingwood Road.
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Re: [obsnw] Liesbeek River problems are Observatory problems.

2015-05-18 Thread Marc Turok
Yesterday I went for a walk along the river and noticed signs of about 8 to ten 
people living on the Valkenberg side of the river between the River Club and 
N2. I did not go further south and i did not go exploring off the path.
There are also signs of bedding being aired, a few piles of garbage and what 
seems to be about 6 garbage bags possibly collected waiting to be taken away?

I also noticed a corrugated iron sheet in front of pipes going through the 
‘rased burm’ near the weir.
One of the new lamp posts has been knocked down. near the fork in the road in 
front of the hotel. There is also a burst pipe in the middle of the road at the 
same spot.

There used to be garbage bins (that were not big enough for all the garbage 
collected once a week) at the new improved parking areas. They seem to have 
vanished. I saw quite a lot of bottles and other new garbage lying about near 
these spots and along the side of the burm between the weir and the Wild Fig 
restaurant. 
The rest of the area is substantially cleaner than I had last seen it!
Regards,
marc 

From: Marc Turok 
Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2015 12:18 PM
To: obsnw@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: [obsnw] Liesbeek River problems are Observatory problems.

I am interested in what Trevor says :
its considered a HotSpot and DPU are supposed to monitor it
When was this undertaking made by DPU and when did they recognise it as a 'Hot 
Spot'?

The report from Sybrand that they had to remove 110 refuse bags of garbage and 
have to repeat this process in June shows what a disaster this has become!
The other fact stated that every pipe is occupied and that squatter camps are 
flourishing!' is a serious problem for us all, particularly since it is also 
claimed that these are not just homeless people with nowhere to go Its 
claimed these are 'drug pushers, prostitutes and criminals. 
We also heard a separate account that a criminal was followed and traced down 
to this area.

If all this is known... surely it should be acted on long ago and at first 
knowledge if this is verified evidence.

Thanks to Brian at OBSID for stating they would follow up on the issue 
(notwithstanding the fact that we understand that Liesbeek River is not within 
the area managed by OBSID).

Lets keep up the monitoring and the follow-up action to get plans in place to 
stop the littering, stop the land invasion, stop the drug abuse, prostitution 
and all crime in our area.
Regards,
Marc



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Subject: Re: [obsnw] Liesbeek River Cleaning A[n Observatory] CommunityProject 
- TWENTIETH CLEANING DAY, Saturday 9 May 2015 Feedback 

On Tue, May 12, 2015 at 1:01 PM, skoo...@intekom.co.za
skoo...@intekom.co.za wrote:
 I believe that one of the reasons that sqatters camps flourish along the
 banks of the Liesbeeck (in this case) during the dry months and are not
 stamped out is because not enough people know that they can call a
 dedicated phone number to report/complain and 2ndly because not enough
 people actually do/would report.



THE DPU know full well about the situtation and its considered a
HotSpot and the are supposed to monitor it which they clearly do not
do diligently enough. I guess if more people did call them then the
squeaky wheel would come into play...

I'm interested in what that person refers to as an informal settlement
in Valkenburg (refer to Franks post)  - it can't be the Liesbeek banks
can it?

Trev

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RE: [obsnw] Re: ATM scam - Lower Main Rd

2015-05-18 Thread Nikki - Flippers Swim School
Over Christmas I had the same happen to me at that ATM.. Even when I walked 
away they still tried to get me to come back. 

 

 

Nikki Britz

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083 7479196

i...@flippersswimschool.co.za

 

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From: obsnw@googlegroups.com [mailto:obsnw@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jenny 
Calder
Sent: 18 May 2015 11:48
To: obsnw@googlegroups.com
Subject: [obsnw] Re: ATM scam - Lower Main Rd

 

On at least 3 different occasions last week, I spotted these scammers at the 
same ATM. The short guy seems to be the main instigator and seems to work with 
different accomplices. The first time, as I was approaching, I warned the 
tourist who was about to have his card skimmed and they disappeared around the 
corner down Trill Road towards the Spar. Following that, they run around the 
corner when they see me approaching.  I have now emailed Nedbank tipoffs and 
asked them to get involved. 

On Wednesday, May 6, 2015 at 8:25:23 PM UTC+2, Craig Bartlett wrote:

There is a scam being run at the Nedbank ATM in Lower Main Rd.

 

While I was withdrawing money from the ATM a young short male stood behind me 
slightly off to my right. I immediately became suspicious, he very quickly 
approached the ATM as I started to walk away. 

 

As I looked back I noticed that he was in possession of a Nedbank Debit Card so 
I continued walking a few steps. He then pressed a few buttons and brought up a 
screen asking for a telephone number to be inserted and called me back saying 
that I needed to re-insert my card because my transaction was still open and 
that the bank would continue to charge me.

 

I walked back to the ATM to check and pressed cancel bringing up the start 
screen and told him that he could continue. As I walked away he called me back 
again saying that my transaction was still open again with a screen asking for 
a telephone number to be entered.

 

Again I pressed cancel and refused to re-insert my card. At this point a young 
tall male walked up and asked me if the ATM was working. I insisted that it was 
and motioned him to proceed with his transaction. This time he pulled up the 
same screen asking for a telephone number and repeat that I need to close the 
transaction.

 

At this point I insisted that they were running a scam. As I walked away I was 
approached by an individual further down the street who discreetly confirmed 
that it was a scam and that I should be careful. I reported the incident to 
OBSID asking that they check their footage to see if they can identify the two 
young men. The Incident happened at 18h40 and has also been reported to SAPS.

 

They were both young and slim, dressed like young students (jeans, hoodies, 
cap). The first male was very short and the second very tall. Both spoke with 
South African accents. 

   

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Re: [obsnw] Battery stolen from Mazda Tazz in Lower Collingwood Road.

2015-05-18 Thread Frank Schuitemaker
@ Barbara we looked last year at the increase of car breakages and it was
apparent that since the lodge picked up clients the thefts increased. Yes
the hire cars stand also out with advertisings as well as registration
number from elsewhere. Also the overseas tenants are often way to careless
by leaving items in the cars. Suggested long ago to the previous owners to
speak to Howard of Green Elephant in regards to CCTV camera's and other
precautions.

On the battery thefts this certainly picked up again and heard various
residents having lost batteries. The last spurge in battery thefts were 57
during 2011 when Saps only knew about a few. Once this was apparent and a
few got caught  the number dropped e.g. during Oct 2011 and Dec 2013 84
batteries were reported stolen to Obsid, ONW. Unless reported the trend may
not be obvious. Thus report, report, report even report if it was weeks ago.

The car guards were traditionally involved in all types of crime and don't
see why it should be otherwise today, once years ago they were removed out
from Obs and crime dropped drastically but we live in different times Human
Right layers and all that.



On 18 May 2015 at 11:44, Barbara Anne Langridge langridge...@gmail.com
wrote:

 What can be a solution.  Because these students bring income to the area
 and current security issues wrr a concern.
 On 18 May 2015 10:58 AM, skoo...@intekom.co.za skoo...@intekom.co.za
 wrote:

 We have a similar scenario here in James: foreign student accomodation in
 several houses, backpackers around the corner, several rental cars always
 parked in our road. These are often the cars which are being stolen,
 un-batteried or broken into. We have had an additional problem with car
 guards trying to extort exorbitant protection sums from these travellers,
 with refusal being met with a smashed window upon return.

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 From: Barbara Langridge langridge...@gmail.com
 Date: Mon, 18 May 2015 09:41:01 +0200
 To: obsnw@googlegroups.com, officead...@obsid.org.za, c...@obsid.org.za
 Subject: RE: [obsnw] Battery stolen from Mazda Tazz in Lower Collingwood
 Road.


 Hallo,



 Car was stolen from outside 6 Irwell Street,



 Its strange that all cars that are vandalised or damaged, broken into, and
 now stolen, are those that are Hire Cars for students staying at Makulu
 Lodge.



 Sometimes I think there is someone on the street who is responsible.



 I did report the theft to OBSID and the police.



 Thanks.



 Barbara Langridge





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 Sent: 18 May 2015 09:01 AM
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 Cc: Claudine Lewis (OBSID); Brian Amery Coo
 Subject: [obsnw] Battery stolen from Mazda Tazz in Lower Collingwood Road.



 My neighbours informed me this morning that they discovered that the
 battery was removed from the car.



 Thanks



 Johan Beaurain



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Re: [obsnw] Battery stolen from Mazda Tazz in Lower Collingwood Road.

2015-05-18 Thread skoo...@intekom.co.za
Often, sadly, yes. 
The police also value some of the car guards as informers too, and so don't
always clamp down on them, but I believe that they are mostly
double-agents. 
My wish is to see informal self-appointed car guards stamped out altogether.

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Date: Mon, 18 May 2015 11:25:34 +0200
To: obsnw@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [obsnw] Battery stolen from Mazda Tazz in Lower Collingwood
Road.


Is there perhaps a connection? Are the car guards informing the people 
responsible for theft? Is this a syndicate thing that targets car hire 
vehicles which are known to be insured and possibly less fussed over?

On 2015/05/18 10:58, skoo...@intekom.co.za wrote:
 We have a similar scenario here in James: foreign student accomodation in
 several houses, backpackers around the corner, several rental cars always
 parked in our road. These are often the cars which are being stolen,
 un-batteried or broken into. We have had an additional problem with car
 guards trying to extort exorbitant protection sums from these travellers,
 with refusal being met with a smashed window upon return.

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 From: Barbara Langridge langridge...@gmail.com
 Date: Mon, 18 May 2015 09:41:01 +0200
 To: obsnw@googlegroups.com, officead...@obsid.org.za, c...@obsid.org.za
 Subject: RE: [obsnw] Battery stolen from Mazda Tazz in Lower Collingwood
 Road.


 Hallo,

   

 Car was stolen from outside 6 Irwell Street,

   

 Its strange that all cars that are vandalised or damaged, broken into, and
 now stolen, are those that are Hire Cars for students staying at Makulu
 Lodge.

   

 Sometimes I think there is someone on the street who is responsible.

   

 I did report the theft to OBSID and the police.

   

 Thanks.

   

 Barbara Langridge

   

   

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 Johan Beaurain
 Sent: 18 May 2015 09:01 AM
 To: obsnw@googlegroups.com
 Cc: Claudine Lewis (OBSID); Brian Amery Coo
 Subject: [obsnw] Battery stolen from Mazda Tazz in Lower Collingwood Road.

   

 My neighbours informed me this morning that they discovered that the
 battery was removed from the car.

   

 Thanks

   

 Johan Beaurain

   


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Re: [obsnw] Liesbeek River problems are Observatory problems.

2015-05-18 Thread Trevor Hughes
Thanks for this report Mark

The area is substantially cleaner as The Friends of the Liesbeek are
qorking tirelesss to clean and improive it. And thanks to all those or
volunteere their time in the 9th of May where 111 bags or refuse were
removed during the cleanup.  I think that is one of the reasons for it
being so clean!

There is a nice report of the cleanup which I will post when I find it

The Friends are aiming to have pne cleanup per month and are looking to
create a model where any interested party can organise the cleanup in
rotation - there is a template so to sepak and if you are intereste you
will get the support of FOL in organising it.

There are many other  ways to help including financialy and creating
awareness, taking pictures and doucmenting the cleaning in progress,
catering for the workerts and the volunteers.

FOL has a paid team and these cleaning days are no exception for our team -
they need to be paid and this is over and above the budget the FOL have -
so its extra money for the team too. All in all costs for the day including
the teams wages. plastic bags, refreshements and logistics is about R1000.

So you coudl get together with 4 of your mates and sponsor a day for R200
each. Or any businesses out there can sponsor a day for R1000. We would
like to get a banner made so that the day and event is more visible as when
the team and volenteers get stuck in the can be hidden from view and
thereby discouraging others from joining in. The sponsor woud then be able
to fly their banner alongs side FOLs for the day of the cleanup. FOL is
also a registered NPO so your donation is tax deductible.

Or just get involved on our Facebook Group -
https://www.facebook.com/groups/friendsoftheliesbeek/ or our web page
fol.org.za. Out FB Group is  quite active and you are welcome to share your
pics their.

Get stuck in an make a difference

More people using the river corridor means a safer  river corridor for all

Trev


Trev

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