Re: [OSGeo Oceania] OO board meeting minutes, 10 May

[Adam Steer via Oceania]

HI Alex, Elisa, all

Page 17 of the FOSS4G RfP document outlines how to ask for seed funding
from OSGeo [1]. The OSGeo conference committee are more than happy to have
a discussion, as is the OSGeo board. In OSGeo Oceania's case there would be
a discussion about financial risks (you have money in the bank, why ask for
$$ from the global community? - to which OO could lay out its current
forecasts and say OK yes now, next year is unknown and we want to ensure
OSGeo Oceania stays alive and the conference is doable at the same time)

The concept of OSGeo acting as a seed fund supplier is documented as
raised, so it doesn't need deeper digging. Here's the quote again:

"Possible to ask OSGeo to be the backer instead of OO? Alex: risk of losing
money is basically zero, the bigger risk is that we split the community and
upset those who have worked on this."

I understand that minutes don't capture nuance well, that was the point of
this line of questioning - and yes, I did ask around a little bit before
writing anything out. I also think it's pretty natural to read the
statement above and think.. hmm. why is this being said / recorded? It
seems completely normal that OSGeo Oceania provide organisational / legal
backing ("fiscal sponsorship") - which was one of the core "whys" of OO to
begin with. And the finance concerns raised in the minutes could be reduced
by asking the global community for support - which is core to OSGeo's
reason for being.

A third path not yet seen is removing some financial concerns by OO
committing some of the seed funding, and asking OSGeo for the balance -
that way giving OO room to consider the scale of its contribution as
unknown unknowns in mid 2024 become more known as 2025 approaches. There
are really no such absolutes as "this way or else", it's all a discussion
and every FOSS4G has different needs - the core criteria is being proactive
about understanding needs as early as possible and being open / upfront
about how things are working out.  So maybe an idea for OO / AKL to keep in
the pocket as things progress...

All the best,
Adam

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Re: [OSGeo Oceania] OO board meeting minutes, 10 May

[Adam Steer via Oceania]

Hi Alex, all

The specific statements of interest are these:
---
● Q: Possible to ask OSGeo to be the backer instead of OO? Alex: risk of
losing money is basically zero, the bigger risk is that we split the
community and upset those who have worked on this.
 Q: How would the community be split? Alex: If OO chooses not to support,
the LOC would have to find support elsewhere, so OO would not participate
---

In a robust and cohsesive community, what specific risks about splitting
the community do the Auckland bid committee (AKLBC) see in asking OSGeo to
seed fund a global FOSS4G in the region?

And: why does the AKLBC think that asking OSGeo to seed the event (rather
than OO) would mean OO would not participate?

In the context of a global FOSS4G in the region it seems straightforward
that no matter who provided the seed funding, OO would act as a bank and
provide other support - without needing to take on the whole financial
risk.

If any other bid committee members want to add some insight, that'd be
great! A global FOSS4G is a huge undertaking, important for both regional
and global communities - so we need to be really clear in the communtiy
about where the kind of statements made at the last board meeting come
from; and work as a community toward resolution.

Thanks,

Adam

On Mon, May 20, 2024, 14:22 Alex Leith  wrote:

> Hey John and Adam
>
> I raised the potential for a split in the community, only as a risk, not
> as a threat or a potential or imminent thing.
>
> My view is that we’re a coherent and broadly cohesive group. My point was
> only that if we (OSGeo Oceania's Board) didn’t support this initiative,
> that other paths might be pursued.
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Re: [OSGeo Oceania] OO board meeting minutes, 10 May

[Adam Steer via Oceania]

Hi John, all

Thanks for sharing the meeting minutes, looked like a big discussion!

Is the Auckland LOC able to provide background / context to comments that
the community would be split / OSGeo Oceania would not participate if the
Auckland LOC sought seed funding from OSGeo? Those are quite strong
statements.

My experience as a director of OSGeo suggests that the global org is very
supportive of seed funding it's primary global gathering - and open to
negotiation on how profits are distributed (if that was the issue)

It's important for the community to understand the context and discuss any
perceived or real perceptions about it's cohesiveness.


Thanks,

Adam

















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Re: [OSGeo Oceania] 2024 OSGeo Oceania board objectives

[Adam Steer via Oceania]

Hi John, everyone

I didn't have the ability to comment on the document, so here goes:

- create an osgeo.org gitlab instance and move all this stuff there so we
can interact via issues:D (that one is half serious... I know the community
doesn't necessarily want to interact with git )

I have just a few thoughts on a couple of areas:

Comms:
heavy plus to more open comms. In the news OSgeo just got a discourse
instance running, maybe check in to see if a channel can be run there? OR
set up an OO-administered discourse instance.

Finances
Paid memberships should be avoided, even if they're optional. It'll set up
an expectation of service which I think is long-term harmful to OO. OO
really needs to hold strongly to its current power to make decisions in the
interests of the whole community.

Direct sponsorship of OO is a good option to explore

Education
A question really: is OO planning to deliver education / training? is this
more oriented at support, eg a grant program?

Thanks,

Adam

On Sun, 7 Jan 2024 at 21:45, John Bryant via Oceania <
oceania@lists.osgeo.org> wrote:

> Hi all, the OSGeo Oceania board is meeting this Friday 12 Jan, and one of
> the agenda items is setting some objectives for 2024.
>
> There was some interesting input from the audience at FOSS4G SotM Oceania
> in October, which helps guide this exercise, but we would love to get
> further input from the community. What do you think we should focus on in
> the coming year? And of course, what would you be willing to put your own
> time and energy into?
>
> Here's what we've got so far (work in progress):
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1L0l_I15T-zm4LyLuwePq6ZfgS3OL9LEm
>
> Obviously we need to pick our battles and not every idea will be a focal
> point, but it will be helpful to hear what's important to you.
>
> Your thoughts?
>
> Cheers
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Re: [OSGeo Oceania] [FOSS4G-Oceania] FOSS4G Global: Call for Oceania Committee

[Adam Steer via Oceania]

Hi Tony

I reached out to a cartography society in 2018 and was more or less
rebuffed.

Never hurts to try again though! Maybe a different name on the outreach is
all it needs...

Adam

On Tue, Dec 12, 2023, 13:36 Tony Batistich via Oceania <
oceania@lists.osgeo.org> wrote:

> Has anyone ever considered combining one of the Oceania, FOSS4G or SoTM
> conferences with the cartography societies' conferences  in Australia or
> New Zealand?Or are they chalk and cheese?
>
> I can see a crossover in interest and maybe one providing experiences for
> the other.
>
> Tony Batistich
>
> On Tue, Dec 12, 2023 at 2:38 PM Andrew Harvey via Oceania <
> oceania@lists.osgeo.org> wrote:
>
>> Hi Alex,
>>
>> There was a back to back FOSS4G and SotM in 2022 in Firenze, Italy, and
>> another one proposed for 2023 (that didn't go ahead).
>>
>> I don't know when the Call for Venues will be open for SotM 2025 but
>> previously it's been between March and June the year prior.
>>
>> We are certainly overdue for a global SotM conference in this region, and
>> I would be ecstatic to see it happen.
>>
>> --
>> Andrew Harvey
>>
>> On Fri, 8 Dec 2023, at 4:07 PM, Alex Leith via FOSS4G-Oceania wrote:
>>
>> Hey Folks
>>
>> A group of us from this year's Auckland conference are interested in
>> putting a bid together to host the 2025 global FOSS4G event, probably in
>> conjunction with the global SotM conference.
>>
>> The call for proposals is about to be announced, and the letter of intent
>> is likely to be due by the 8th of January, 2024, which means that we have
>> to move fairly quickly to take this initial step. The Auckland University
>> of Technology have already indicated they can provide the venue.
>>
>> This is obviously a massive commitment and not something we would enter
>> into lightly, but I think it would be wonderful to welcome the global open
>> geospatial community to our corner of the Earth, and I hope that you agree!
>>
>> So, the call to action is to get in touch if you'd like to join the
>> committee that is putting the bid together.
>>
>> Please let me know if you'd like to be involved, and we'll work together
>> to get a letter of intent together.
>>
>> Kind regards,
>>
>> Alex
>>
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[OSGeo Oceania] EU Cyber Resilience Act - regional impacts in Oceania?

[Adam Steer]

Hi

I've just written to discuss@osgeo about the proposed EU Cyber Resilience
Act [1]. It is summarised with some thoughts a bout potential impacts on
open source software here:

https://github.blog/2023-07-12-no-cyber-resilience-without-open-source-sustainability/

What impacts do you see in Oceania? From small projects (eg turfJS) to huge
international (QGIS) efforts to (largely afaik) government contributions
(terriaJS/Opendatacube/??).

Happy to hear your thoughts. The OSGeo board is discussing a response,
perhaps a regional response is also useful?

Cheers

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Re: [OSGeo Oceania] [talk-au] Publishing data as vector tiles/something else

[Adam Steer]

Hi Ben

I knew about Tippecanoe - and will also give it a go. Thanks for the
reminder! Like all unfunded projects the whole idea is prone to being put
on the back burner (or in the back of a dark cupboard ).. might see some
action soon!

Cheers,

Adam

On Tue, May 23, 2023, 12:34 Ben Ritter  wrote:

> I recently came across Tippecanoe, which is a tool that outputs "Mapbox
> Vector Tile Specification" tiles from other formats, with a focus on large
> datasets and sensible level-of-detail handling. I haven't used it myself,
> but it looks like it might be useful here. Maybe converting your data to
> .mbtiles, then generating a "TMS folder" from that (which I imagine is
> possible).
>
> https://github.com/felt/tippecanoe
> https://github.com/mapbox/awesome-vector-tiles
>
> I hope those leads help you out. I'd be interested to hear what solution
> you settle on!
>
> Cheers,
> Ben
>
> On Wed, 10 May 2023 at 06:55, Adam Steer  wrote:
>
>> Hiya
>>
>> I have about a gigabyte (maybe 2) of vector data for high resolution
>> terrain classifications and features (snow safety related) that I want to
>> publish in a way that leaflet/openlayers/cesium based apps can ingest it.
>>
>> I also want it to be static - bare http access without a server in the
>> way.
>>
>> ...and I don't want to restrict access with a paywall, I want people to
>> play with it and figure out if it is useful (donations are always welcome!)
>>
>> Currently it's all in .gpkg
>>
>> What's the current state of the art in static, over-http vector delivery
>> for web apps (or to qgis) that isn't over-fluffy ? (Geojson for example
>> blows the size out by a lot). Links to how-to's welcome...
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Adam
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[OSGeo Oceania] Publishing data as vector tiles/something else

[Adam Steer]

Hiya

I have about a gigabyte (maybe 2) of vector data for high resolution
terrain classifications and features (snow safety related) that I want to
publish in a way that leaflet/openlayers/cesium based apps can ingest it.

I also want it to be static - bare http access without a server in the way.

...and I don't want to restrict access with a paywall, I want people to
play with it and figure out if it is useful (donations are always welcome!)

Currently it's all in .gpkg

What's the current state of the art in static, over-http vector delivery
for web apps (or to qgis) that isn't over-fluffy ? (Geojson for example
blows the size out by a lot). Links to how-to's welcome...

Thanks,

Adam

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Re: [OSGeo Oceania] [Oceania-Board] Community Recognition Process

[Adam Steer]

Hiya everyone

I really appreciate the desire to recognise great efforts in the
community. I'm gonna be that person who asks 'is an award really a
thing to start up in 2023'? My next line of thought is 'is this
sustainable for a small-ish volunteer community? who is going to look
after this in 5 years or even 2 years time?'

There's already been a short discussion about how awards get skewed
(starting at [1], particularly well expressed in [2]). Effort
sustainability is additional concern.

In a related discussion in another forum I wondered if, instead of
awards, a whole conference could be devoted to community building and
celebration of each others' acheivements.

One way to implement that might be to only accept talks where a team
presents about a project, software, a map, a team who inspires them -
which is not their own (or from the same company). And/or teams set up
to discuss community and cultural parts of being an open source
geospatial participant. Its a way of our community recognising others,
and a way of doing work to sustain itself.

This is a fairly audacious departure from what (especially in
Australia) a mapping and technology conference is evolving into, it
might also be audacious enough to work.

A program committee will likely have a lot of work to do in ensuring
small-yet-critical projects - the one proposal that wants to talk
about proj, and the other one about geos, versus 4326 about QGIS and
another 28355 about whatever the hot new tech of the year is.

Maybe just another too-far-out-there idea, maybe food for thought.

Cheers,

Adam

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Re: [OSGeo Oceania] [Oceania-Board] Geospatial Council of Australia - thoughts?

[Adam Steer]

Hi John

You've expressed my thoughts really well re. awards.

Martin, I have many thoughts on volunteered/acquired/stolen geodata, for
another chat. (Maybe we should get a microgrant and run a forum on the
topic, if we run it in beechworth that'd be ace!)

Alex, thanks for your action reaching out to Paul that's great!! Sooner the
better - a public draft is a strong statement in itself ;).

Cheers,

Adam

On Thu, Mar 30, 2023, 15:16 John Bryant  wrote:

> Adam wrote:
>>
>> Awards - personally not my thing and (IMO) about the last thing a
>> community org should focus on. I've just returned from a couple of
>> years in Norway dealing with a community that is strongly cult of
>> personality (rockstar/award/??) based, and it sucks. Where was the
>> community discussion about awards in OSGeo Oceania?
>>
>
> I feel similarly. I think it's nice to recognise people's successes and
> wins, but industry body awards feel like an echo chamber to me, reinforcing
> in-group relationships. I've always admired OSGeo for its focus on reaching
> the broader community, creating an inviting and open space where anyone can
> participate regardless of affiliations.
>
> The APSEA awards seem like particularly odd bedfellows for OSGeo
> Oceania... despite the "Asia-Pacific" name, they're predominantly
> (entirely?) Australian. Not making a criticism but it doesn't seem in step
> with OSGeo Oceania's community.
>
> Ohyeah, an MoU *has to be* public and reviewable by the community.
>> OSGeo's MoU with OGC is a good example of this practice.
>>
>
> +1
>
> On Thu, 30 Mar 2023 at 08:14, Martin Tomko  wrote:
>
>> Oh, sorry – you mean VGI? That was me the academic speaking - Volunteered
>> Geographic Information, e.g., OSM, or any other geo content (e.g.,
>> Mapillary Cam data, or OpenDrone Map, or other) that is volunteered by
>> people, as opposed to a “super” category - User Generated Content, which is
>> any stuff that may be gathered from people out there, even unknowingly
>> (some call this Coerced Geographic Content …)
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Agreed with your other points – and this makes it quite tricky to write a
>> good MoU 😊, but there is hope,
>>
>> M.
>>
>>
>>
>> *From: *Adam Steer 
>> *Date: *Thursday, 30 March 2023 at 10:05 am
>> *To: *Martin Tomko 
>> *Cc: *OSGeo Oceania Board , OSgeo -
>> Oceania 
>> *Subject: *Re: [Oceania-Board] [OSGeo Oceania] Geospatial Council of
>> Australia - thoughts?
>>
>> Hi Martin
>>
>>
>>
>> Unfortunately unsurprising, I hope we can all work together to be better.
>>
>>
>>
>> Noncompetition for grants is a great addition to an MoU, alongside
>> preventing channeling of OSGeo, OSM, HOT etc (global) funds to non-open
>> activities. Leading naturally to the principle of open data from
>> open-branded activity; and hackathons resulting in PRs to existing projects
>> rather than fork -> rebrand -> claim.
>>
>>
>>
>> What does "VGC" expand to?
>>
>>
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [OSGeo Oceania] [Oceania-Board] Geospatial Council of Australia - thoughts?

[Adam Steer]

Hi Martin

Unfortunately unsurprising, I hope we can all work together to be better.

Noncompetition for grants is a great addition to an MoU, alongside
preventing channeling of OSGeo, OSM, HOT etc (global) funds to non-open
activities. Leading naturally to the principle of open data from
open-branded activity; and hackathons resulting in PRs to existing projects
rather than fork -> rebrand -> claim.

What does "VGC" expand to?

Cheers,

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Re: [OSGeo Oceania] Geospatial Council of Australia - thoughts?

[Adam Steer]

Hi Alex, all

In OSGeo we try to find areas of common ground and avoid extractive
practice for MoUs, which are long term and take a long time to make
(the OGC MoU took 2+ years). So however it is drafted, it needs to
ensure that the energy flow is not one way! Off the top of my head:

- Geospatial Council of Australia (GCA) and OSGeo Oceania (OO) will
collaborate on conference discounts and comms (eg FOSS4G SotM Oceania
turns up in their calendar, counts for CPD etc, Locate turns up in
OO's calendar, everyone talks so dates don't conflict, maybe members
of each org get a discount and an opportunity to trade their discount
in to a travel grant program - noting that Locate might not do this,
but OO events can ;) )
- quid pro quo booths at conferences if thats a thing people want?
- co promotion as supporting/ collaborating orgs, logos on websites etc
- maybe something about seeking expertise from OO first when talking
about open things?

Awards - personally not my thing and (IMO) about the last thing a
community org should focus on. I've just returned from a couple of
years in Norway dealing with a community that is strongly cult of
personality (rockstar/award/??) based, and it sucks. Where was the
community discussion about awards in OSGeo Oceania?

Strong avoids: sharing member data, sharing mailing lists, paying
money, anything suggesting OO do something without an energy or cash
return.

An MoU with OO and GCA also has to think ahead a bit given OO's
regional focus and GCA's more local focus. Treat it as a model for
other regional agreements - if we can find people from other regional
orgs who might seek similar MoU's to review it, that would be great.

Ohyeah, an MoU *has to be* public and reviewable by the community.
OSGeo's MoU with OGC is a good example of this practice.

Cheers,

Adam

On Thu, 30 Mar 2023 at 08:29, Alex Leith  wrote:
>
> Hey Folks
>
> Thanks for raising this, Adam.
>
> I’ll add it to the next Board meeting for discussion, and will reach out to 
> Paul Digney, who is acting president.
>
> Something that we could push for is having our awards (proposed for the next 
> conference) feed into the APSEA awards. I think that might work.
>
> Any other ideas for what could be included in the MOU?
>
> Cheers,
>
> On Thu, 30 Mar 2023 at 8:22 am, Adam Steer  wrote:
>>
>> Hi Emma, Kate
>>
>> Thanks for the support!
>>
>> As a strategic approach I'd personally go straight for board <> board level 
>> comms without delay - because honestly FOSS4G tools and OSGeo-championed 
>> concepts of open-ness / inclusivity are in every aspect of geostuff, all the 
>> areas of practice.
>>
>> (in my opinion) we do ourselves, the community and industry a disservice if 
>> we act as if open source geostuff is a special interest or niche subset 
>> within the geospatial community.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Adam
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 29, 2023, 21:22 Kate Fairlie  wrote:
>>>
>>> YES! I would love to see this happen (as someone who has been very active 
>>> in SSSI previously, and not very active in OSgeo). I highly doubt SSSI/GCA 
>>> has previously reached out. Possibly worthwhile waiting until "areas of 
>>> practice" chairs are determined (to get a bit of a champion), though could 
>>> definitely sound out board in the meantime..
>>>
>>> On Wed, Mar 29, 2023 at 4:47 PM Emma Hain  wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hey all
>>>> My thoughts exactly!
>>>> I think setting up a MOU would be a good step forward.
>>>> Cheers
>>>> Em
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Mar 29, 2023, 3:29 PM Adam Steer  wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hey OSGeo Oceania
>>>>>
>>>>> The Geospatial Council of Australia formally launched recently -
>>>>> merging SSSI and SIBA/GITA: https://geospatialcouncil.org.au/
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm curious about their level of interaction with the open geospatial
>>>>> community, does anyone have any thoughts / input / news? Should OSGeo
>>>>> Oceania seek to form an MoU with GCA about how the organisations can
>>>>> collaborate?
>>>>>
>>>>> I think there's a lot of potential for raising the profile of open
>>>>> source geospatial approaches, especially in professional development
>>>>> and mentoring, given the depth of expertise existing in the OSGeo
>>>>> Oceania community - and also a lot of potential to return value
>>>>> (maintenance $$) to the open source community that might not otherwise
>>>>> flow back.
>>>

Re: [OSGeo Oceania] Geospatial Council of Australia - thoughts?

[Adam Steer]

Hi Emma, Kate

Thanks for the support!

As a strategic approach I'd personally go straight for board <> board level
comms without delay - because honestly FOSS4G tools and OSGeo-championed
concepts of open-ness / inclusivity are in every aspect of geostuff, all
the areas of practice.

(in my opinion) we do ourselves, the community and industry a disservice if
we act as if open source geostuff is a special interest or niche subset
within the geospatial community.

Cheers,

Adam

On Wed, Mar 29, 2023, 21:22 Kate Fairlie  wrote:

> YES! I would love to see this happen (as someone who has been very active
> in SSSI previously, and not very active in OSgeo). I highly doubt SSSI/GCA
> has previously reached out. Possibly worthwhile waiting until "areas of
> practice" chairs are determined (to get a bit of a champion), though could
> definitely sound out board in the meantime..
>
> On Wed, Mar 29, 2023 at 4:47 PM Emma Hain  wrote:
>
>> Hey all
>> My thoughts exactly!
>> I think setting up a MOU would be a good step forward.
>> Cheers
>> Em
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 29, 2023, 3:29 PM Adam Steer  wrote:
>>
>>> Hey OSGeo Oceania
>>>
>>> The Geospatial Council of Australia formally launched recently -
>>> merging SSSI and SIBA/GITA: https://geospatialcouncil.org.au/
>>>
>>> I'm curious about their level of interaction with the open geospatial
>>> community, does anyone have any thoughts / input / news? Should OSGeo
>>> Oceania seek to form an MoU with GCA about how the organisations can
>>> collaborate?
>>>
>>> I think there's a lot of potential for raising the profile of open
>>> source geospatial approaches, especially in professional development
>>> and mentoring, given the depth of expertise existing in the OSGeo
>>> Oceania community - and also a lot of potential to return value
>>> (maintenance $$) to the open source community that might not otherwise
>>> flow back.
>>>
>>> Maybe the OSGeo Oceania board has already reached out, or the GCA has
>>> already reached out?
>>>
>>> Thoughts and discussion welcome :)
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>>
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[OSGeo Oceania] Geospatial Council of Australia - thoughts?

[Adam Steer]

Hey OSGeo Oceania

The Geospatial Council of Australia formally launched recently -
merging SSSI and SIBA/GITA: https://geospatialcouncil.org.au/

I'm curious about their level of interaction with the open geospatial
community, does anyone have any thoughts / input / news? Should OSGeo
Oceania seek to form an MoU with GCA about how the organisations can
collaborate?

I think there's a lot of potential for raising the profile of open
source geospatial approaches, especially in professional development
and mentoring, given the depth of expertise existing in the OSGeo
Oceania community - and also a lot of potential to return value
(maintenance $$) to the open source community that might not otherwise
flow back.

Maybe the OSGeo Oceania board has already reached out, or the GCA has
already reached out?

Thoughts and discussion welcome :)

Cheers

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Re: [OSGeo Oceania] New conference: Everything Open

[Adam Steer]

ps - it would be super cool to see a lot of open geospatial talk
proposals! I think these broader events are a great way to get engaged
across different fields and learn new things.

If nobody else posts about the event in OSM talk-au, I will go and
drop a note about it there too (there is an open data stream...)

I suspect quite a few talks will be about open geo stuff anyway...

On Thu, 15 Dec 2022 at 12:12, Adam Steer  wrote:
>
> OK, I wonder if is worth pitching a talk - then if it gets accepted,
> hoping someone from the OSGeo community can be there to present it :D
> . Speakers have registration fees waived, we'd have to check in about
> how that works for a talk which could have a presnter different from
> the talk proposer..
>
> End of January is an event horizon for me, impossible to see past.
> Happy to draft a talk proposal though...
>
> Adam
>
>
> On Thu, 15 Dec 2022 at 06:18, John Bryant  wrote:
> >
> > Yeah, I've been watching this with interest. It seems to be picking up 
> > where Linux Conf Australia left off. I haven't been to LCA before but it 
> > sounds like it was an awesome event full of open source goodness!
> >
> > If it looks like I might attend, I'd be interested in collaborating, but 
> > difficult to predict this far in advance unfortunately.
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Re: [OSGeo Oceania] New conference: Everything Open

[Adam Steer]

OK, I wonder if is worth pitching a talk - then if it gets accepted,
hoping someone from the OSGeo community can be there to present it :D
. Speakers have registration fees waived, we'd have to check in about
how that works for a talk which could have a presnter different from
the talk proposer..

End of January is an event horizon for me, impossible to see past.
Happy to draft a talk proposal though...

Adam


On Thu, 15 Dec 2022 at 06:18, John Bryant  wrote:
>
> Yeah, I've been watching this with interest. It seems to be picking up where 
> Linux Conf Australia left off. I haven't been to LCA before but it sounds 
> like it was an awesome event full of open source goodness!
>
> If it looks like I might attend, I'd be interested in collaborating, but 
> difficult to predict this far in advance unfortunately.
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Re: [OSGeo Oceania] New conference: Everything Open

[Adam Steer]

... looks like there's also room for BoFs every day. Might be cool to see a
little FOSS4G BoF pop up :)

I don't know where I will be in March aside from "Australia or nearby" or
what the scope of my work will be..

Does anyone who is already very likely to attend want to collaborate on a
talk proposal about OSGeo, for the community track? Anyone in the OSGeo
community can talk about OSGeo after all, it's not exclusively director
territory... I'm happy to motivate the proposal / get it going, and
co-present if I am there, or hand it over to you if I can't make it.

Cheers,

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[OSGeo Oceania] New conference: Everything Open

[Adam Steer]

Hiya

This popped up today: https://2023.everythingopen.au/

...there's no geospatial specific theme mentioned, although geo-stuff
can fit in a few of the themes mentioned.

Just posting in case anyone is interested / wants to connect up open
geospatial stuff to a broader FOSS community.

Cheers (from the polar night)

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[OSGeo Oceania] SSSI / SIBA-GITA merger

[Adam Steer]

Hi Oceanians

I've just been reading about the merger of SSSI and SIBA-GITA:

https://sssi.org.au/knowledge-hub/news/sssi-and-siba-gita-to-merge-and-form-the-geospatia?viewmode=0

I hope this makes the landscape of geospatial associations easier to
navigate in the region - and look forward to seeing how OSGeo Oceania
and the new Geospatial Council of Australia interact (time to prepare
an MoU?)

...and if it is old news to everyone, my apologies! I hadn't seen any
chatter about it yet.

Cheers from the Arctic winter,

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[OSGeo Oceania] Fwd: [OSGeo-Discuss] Board Member elections

[Adam Steer]

Hi folks

First - welcome to a newly elected Oceanian OSGeo charter member - Emma Hain [1]

Next, it is election season everywhere in OSGeo - if you are, or know,
an OSGeo charter member[2] who is interested in nominating for the
OSGeo board, details are below.

( we really also need to aim for some more location-diverse Oceania
representation in that list!)

Feel free to ask me anything about being on the OSGeo board. tl:dr
people are kind, and workload is bursty without too much overwhelm.
Personal e-mail is fine :). Key thing to remember is that OSGeo is
...you! not just the board, not just charter members ;) - we kind of
see ourselves at the bottom of the stack, trying to support upward
toward everyone who wants to work in open geospatial stuff. Sometimes
we are OK at it :D

Cheers

Adam

[1] https://www.osgeo.org/member/hain/
[2] https://www.osgeo.org/about/charter-members/


-- Forwarded message -
From: Vicky Vergara via Discuss 
Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2022 at 01:47
Subject: [OSGeo-Discuss] Board Member elections
To: OSGeo Discuss list 


Hello all
This is a gentle reminder about the board member nominations.
We have been receiving nominations since November 12.
Last day for nominations is November 25th.

Please send your nomination to cro at osgeo.org
With a title:
Nominating  for board member

Follow the template for the nomination:

Nominating person:
Nominating person profile page:
Nominee name:
Nominee profile page:
Nomination statement:


Please don't forget to ask the nominee if they are willing to take the
role if elected.

See the full information about 2022 election periods on [1]

Kind Regards
Jorge Gustavo Rocha, Vicky Vergara and Vasile Crăciunescu
(your 2022 OSGeo Elections CROs)
https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Chief_Returning_Officer
[1] https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Election_2022

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Re: [OSGeo Oceania] Oceania Geospatial Symposium - talk and invitation to contribute

[Adam Steer]

Thanks John.

...and +1 to the last paragraph - get an OO microgrant, do stuff!

On Mon, 14 Nov 2022 at 12:31, John Bryant  wrote:
>
> Hi Adam, in WA we have an informal meetup group, we call ourselves "geogeeks" 
> (https://geogeeks.org/). In addition to meetups about QGIS, OSM, etc, we have 
> a Slack workspace where we plan meetups and talk open geospatial. For 
> recreational purposes only :)
>
> Mostly the same group of people have been involved in organising FOSS4G Perth.
>
> It's pretty great to have a little local community of people interested in 
> this stuff, and I encourage anyone who wants it to happen in their home 
> city/town/village to get a microgrant, buy some food, and invite fellow 
> enthusiasts to get together and talk open geospatial!
>
> On Thu, 10 Nov 2022, 3:42 pm Adam Steer,  wrote:
>>
>> Hi Oceanians
>>
>> I am invited to present OSGeo at the Oceania Geospatial Symposium, so
>> I have 15 minutes to talk about global and local OSGeo roles and ways
>> to participate.
>>
>> What are, as of November 2022 (and hopefully some time into the
>> future), the best channels for getting connected to OSGeo Oceania?
>> Mailing lists and slack seem pretty quiet - is there community chat
>> elsewhere? I know there's something starting up on the OSM discourse
>> community.. Are there fediverse hashtags to follow yet? What do you
>> want highlighted in 2-5 minutes of slides for a wide audience covering
>> local to inter-government organisations?
>>
>> I'll combine anything I get with what comes from people on the ground
>> in Noumea - I plan to ask around and see what people are already aware
>> of, what people perceive, before 'splaining things to everyone :)
>>
>> I hope preparations for Suva are going well!
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Adam
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Re: [OSGeo Oceania] Oceania Geospatial Symposium - talk and invitation to contribute

[Adam Steer]

Hi Violaine - thanks! I'll go check those resources out.

Cheers,

Adam
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Re: [OSGeo Oceania] Oceania Geospatial Symposium - talk and invitation to contribute

[Adam Steer]

Thanks Phil

I reckon the brand new Oceania discourse community in OSM will also be
listed there in plenty of time :)

Cheers

Adam

On Thu, 10 Nov 2022 at 13:16, Phil Wyatt  wrote:
>
> Hi Adam,
>
> In regard to OSM there are a few channels listed here
>
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Australian_Mapping_Community
>
> Discord is pretty active - OpenStreetMap World with a regional Oceania
> channel (mainly used by Aussies at this stage)
>
> It would be great if there were more regional folks so we can support each
> other in OpenStreetMap.
>
> Cheers - Phil (aka tastrax)
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Oceania  On Behalf Of Adam Steer
> Sent: Thursday, 10 November 2022 6:42 PM
> To: OSgeo - Oceania 
> Subject: [OSGeo Oceania] Oceania Geospatial Symposium - talk and invitation
> to contribute
>
> Hi Oceanians
>
> I am invited to present OSGeo at the Oceania Geospatial Symposium, so I have
> 15 minutes to talk about global and local OSGeo roles and ways to
> participate.
>
> What are, as of November 2022 (and hopefully some time into the future), the
> best channels for getting connected to OSGeo Oceania?
> Mailing lists and slack seem pretty quiet - is there community chat
> elsewhere? I know there's something starting up on the OSM discourse
> community.. Are there fediverse hashtags to follow yet? What do you want
> highlighted in 2-5 minutes of slides for a wide audience covering local to
> inter-government organisations?
>
> I'll combine anything I get with what comes from people on the ground in
> Noumea - I plan to ask around and see what people are already aware of, what
> people perceive, before 'splaining things to everyone :)
>
> I hope preparations for Suva are going well!
>
> Regards,
>
> Adam
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[OSGeo Oceania] Oceania Geospatial Symposium - talk and invitation to contribute

[Adam Steer]

Hi Oceanians

I am invited to present OSGeo at the Oceania Geospatial Symposium, so
I have 15 minutes to talk about global and local OSGeo roles and ways
to participate.

What are, as of November 2022 (and hopefully some time into the
future), the best channels for getting connected to OSGeo Oceania?
Mailing lists and slack seem pretty quiet - is there community chat
elsewhere? I know there's something starting up on the OSM discourse
community.. Are there fediverse hashtags to follow yet? What do you
want highlighted in 2-5 minutes of slides for a wide audience covering
local to inter-government organisations?

I'll combine anything I get with what comes from people on the ground
in Noumea - I plan to ask around and see what people are already aware
of, what people perceive, before 'splaining things to everyone :)

I hope preparations for Suva are going well!

Regards,

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[OSGeo Oceania] Speaking invitation - special session on Pacific Islands Countries and Territories (PICTs) at 15th Asia Oceania Symposium, 30 Sept 2022 [SEC=OFFICIAL]

[Adam Steer]

Hi Oceania

The following opportunity to speak about OSGeo Oceania and its role in
the regional geospatial community came across my desk this week. Its
for a symposium run by the Asia-Oceania Group on Earth Observations
(AOGEO) [1].

The tl:dr is that there's a 10 minute slot to give an online talk
about OSGeo Oceania on Friday 30 September, we need to pick a
representative by Friday 2 September (or soon after). The talk is in a
session with the theme "Highlight the important role of 4 different
community led EO networks in supporting the PICTs with their
geospatial needs", and OSGeo Oceania is one of those networks,

Full details are given below my blurb.

I highly encourage anyone who wants to make some connections in the
GEO [2] community and feels like they can represent OSGeo Oceania and
its goals to step up! I think it is super valuable if the speaker can
provide some perspective on OSGeo Oceania outside of the government
focus that GEO sits inside of (my opinion, totally fine if that is not
shared!)

If it seems daunting there are a lot of resources available to help -
slide decks about OSGeo Oceania, mentoring, people to practice on,
general support.

I've removed attachments from the e-mail below, I can send them or set
them up as google docs for anyone interested.

Cheers, and happy FOSS4G week!

Adam


[1] https://aogeo.net/en/
[2] https://earthobservations.org/index.php

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Dear friends and colleagues of Asia Oceania GEO and the Pacific Islands

This email is to follow up on our earlier discussions in relation to
presenting at the upcoming 15th Asia Oceania Group on Earth
Observations (GEO) Symposium “New horizons for Earth observation in
Asia Oceania Region: Searching for engagements”.

This will be  a virtual event hosted by Japan 28 to 30 of September
2022 (Time: 11:00-15:30[Beijing]; 12:00-16:30 [Tokyo & Seoul];
13:00-17:30 [Canberra]; Geneva 04:00 (UTC+1:00); Nepal 08:45
(UTC+5:45); Beijing 11:00 (UTC+8:00); Seoul & Tokyo 12:00 (UTC+9:00);
Canberra 14:00 (UTC+11:00); Aukland 16:00 (UTC+13:00)].

This is a very important symposium for AO GEO and its role going
forward, given the big structural changes and decadal planning cycle
underway through

Due to unforeseen circumstances, I will be unable to lead this
session, but I am still very hopeful it will be a great session
through your collective, collaborative efforts.

Session details

·   Title: Importance of local and sub-regional EO networks to the PICTs

·   Date, time: Friday 30th September, 12.00-1pm, JST (UTC+9:00)

·   Focus: Highlight the important role of 4 different community
led EO networks in supporting the PICTs with their geospatial needs

·   Chair: TBC

·   Session outline

o   Opening remarks by chair (5 minutes)

o   4 presentations (10  minutes each)

o   Discussion (5 minutes)

o   Closing remarks by chair (5 minutes)

·   Proposed speakers/topics

o   Blue Planet Asian Secretariat – please provide an outline of the
regional network, and conclude with a brief outline of the planned
conference in Korea next year (Proposed presenter – Dr Sung-Jin Cho,
key contact – Emily Smail)

o   OS GEO Oceania – please provide an outline of the regional chapter
of OS GEO Oceania, conclude with a brief outline of plans for Suva
conference focussing on FOSS4G angle (Lead – tbc – in the interim
please work with Adam Stocks)

o   Pacific GRSC - please provide an outline of PGRSC’s work, and
conclude with a brief outline of the planned conference in Suva angle
(Lead – tbc – in the interim please work with Adam Steer)

o   The New Caledonian GeoDEV RAN – please provide an outline of the
regional network, and conclude with an outline of the Oceania
Geospatial Symposium, including its links to GEO and the 2025 pa brief
outline of the planned conference in Korea next year (Proposed
presenter – Valerie Burtet for GEO DEV Ran, Jean Massenet for OGS)

Speaker instructions

·   To accept this speaker invitation, please complete the
attached short speaker bio template, together with proposed topic and
three discussion starter questions by Friday 2 September 2022. Email
to emi...@oceania-geospatial.com; emilie.l...@csiro.au;
aoge...@restec.or.jp

·   Each presentation will be a maximum of 10 minutes. Please
confirm with the symposium secretariat on the timeframes and process
to send your presentation.

·   Please follow the attached presentation instructions (for both
Mac and PC). Contact the aoge...@restec.or.jp if you have any
questions

Thank you so much for your help and cooperation. I’ve included some
broader background about the symposium and this session below for
further context.

 I look forward to watching the recordings and congratulating you all
personally upon my return to work.

 Best wishes

Emma

Emma Luke  | Director, National Planning and International Relations
|  Digital Earth Branch  | Space Division

15th Asia Oceania Group on Earth Observations (GEO) Sympos

Re: [OSGeo Oceania] Pacific Geospatial Conference - Registration Open!

[Adam Steer]

All good ;)

Cheers,

Adam

On Fri, Aug 12, 2022, 16:03 Alex Leith  wrote:

> We're already using Tito, and have a not-for-profit arrangement with them.
>
> The app is simple, flexible, low cost and integrates with our financial
> tools, so I think we're happy using it again. Thanks for the offer though,
> Adam.
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Re: [OSGeo Oceania] Pacific Geospatial Conference - Registration Open!

[Adam Steer]

Great work team!

Will there be a remote attendance option? Or recording / streaming of
any sessions?

Good to see OSGeo infrastructure being used for talks - is it needed
for tickets as well (a very tiny discussion exists around setting up
pretix if it is useful)[1]

[1] https://git.osgeo.org/gitea/osgeo/todo/issues/115

On Mon, 8 Aug 2022 at 08:07, Jonah Sullivan  wrote:
>
>
> Pacific Geospatial Conference 2022
>
> For the first time The Pacific GIS and Remote Sensing Council (PGRSC), OSGeo 
> Oceania, and HOT OSM are collaborating to present the 2022 Conference.
>
> A new conference name is used to represent this new venture: The Pacific 
> Geospatial Conference [1].
>
> The theme is “Digital Platforms, GIS and Remote Sensing to anticipate and 
> manage impacts of Global Warming”.
>
> The Pacific Geospatial Conference will be held from 28th November to 2nd 
> December at the University of the South Pacific in Suva, Fiji.
> Conference Registration is now open. Register to attend the conference at 
> link [2].
>
> The Conference Program [3] includes 4 full days of content as well as social 
> events in and around Suva, Fiji.
>
> The Call for Presentations is now open and can either be long or short as 
> part of the fast, fun, frenetic Lightning series. Submit your presentation 
> using the OSGeo Pretalx system with link [4].
>
> The Call for Sponsors is open, find the Conference Sponsorship Prospectus at 
> link [5] provides information about the conference, the grassroots organising 
> committee, and how you can support us.
>
> [1] https://osgeo-oceania.org/pacific-geospatial-conference/
> [2] https://ti.to/foss4g-oceania/pacific-geospatial-conference-2022
> [3] https://osgeo-oceania.org/pgc2022-program/
> [4] https://talks.osgeo.org/pacific-geospatial-conference-2022/cfp
> [5] 
> https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1EJ8Fowt4C_aDItDEe_ZEzwME0BQp_cJ-YXh4LkRot74/edit?usp=sharing
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[OSGeo Oceania] Follow up about OGS - travel funding

[Adam Steer]

A related post about two conferences in the region, not discussed
anyplace except here:

Will OSGeo Oceania consider offering travel assistance for open source
geospatial advocates in Oceania to attend the Oceania Geospatial
Symposium?

I'm not sure if the OSGeo travel grant assistance would extend to
non-FOSS4G events, and its OK if OSGeo Oceania decide to follow the
same pattern.

In my mind it would be a really great act of good faith if OO can
offer help, and super useful if, say, someone near Noumea can't access
levels of TGP funding to get to Suva, but would get to Noumea with a
small boost.

Maybe the microgrants program is also a way to help with that?

Just a thought, and I also think I just volunteered myself as a TGP
application reviewer having these kinds of ideas:D

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[OSGeo Oceania] Two conferences, two opportunities

[Adam Steer]

Hi Oceania folks

First, apologies to anyone on the main OSGeo discussion email list for
this double post. I sent it there accidentally! On to the topic:

It's likely that everyone in the community is aware now that there are
two geospatial conferences scheduled in Oceania at the same time this
year!

One is the Pacific  Geospatial Conference [1] - a collaboration
between OSGeo Oceania, the Pacific GIS and Remote Sensing Council.
This will be hosted in Suva, Fiji.

The second is the Oceania Geospatial Symposium [2] - an event
supported by GEO[2] and hosted in Noumea, New Caledonia.

A few people saw this second one turn up on linkedin recently. With my
OSGeo director hat on I reached out to Emma Luke - who posted the
notice and is cc'ed here - for a chat about how we managed to get two
events on the same week in the same region. The best answer is, its
complicated and there are no bad vibes intended.

I think the most relevant message for the OSGeo Oceania community is
to embrace both events. It will be great to see the open source
geospatial community and OSGeo Oceania visible in both places, and I
hope that is how the news of two events in the same time slot is
generally being received.

Other questions which popped up are:
- are either conference hybrid format?
- are talks being live streamed?

Both would really help for people who want to multi-conference if they can!

A potentially really cool idea would be cross-broadcasting between
events, maybe that is a bridge too far - but if we never ask the
question, nothing ever happens.

Back to immediate practicality - I think the best approach is to
encourage everyone to choose the event where they think they will have
the most impact, I think there is a large enough community for both to
succeed! Maybe people just do this anyway - if so, great! I think it
is also great to have this discussion out in the open and on the
record.

In the long term, we can get more coordinated.

it also came to light that OSGeo Oceania could use some profile
raising in GEO's regional networks. We discussed getting an OSGeo
Oceania representative along to an Asia-Oceania GEO [4] virtual
meeting in September to deliver a 'what is OSGeo Oceania' talk - to me
that sounds like a great idea, perhaps it should be someone from the
OO board, but really it could be anyone who has the time and interest.

Cheers,

Adam
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[1] https://osgeo-oceania.org/pacific-geospatial-conference/
[2] https://oceania-geospatial.com/
[3] https://www.earthobservations.org/index.php
[4] https://aogeo.net/en/
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[OSGeo Oceania] Fwd: [OSGeo-Discuss] OSGeo AGM 2022 event

[Adam Steer]

Hei OSGeo Oceania

Please spend some time to collate Oceania happenings / events /
achievements and show them off for the OSGeo AGM at FOSS4G Firenze!

Instructions for video participation and adding to the AGM slides are
in the OSGeo discussion list thread here:
https://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/discuss/2022-July/039628.html

Cheers,

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Re: [OSGeo Oceania] Fwd: [OSGeo-Discuss] Reminder: Sol Katz Award for Geospatial Free and Open Source Software - Call for Nominations

[Adam Steer]

Hi Jeff, all

Ah yes (visualise me facepalming myself, a lot)!! Good catch - that is
a huge brain fart on my part, I should know a lot better. Luckily
OSGeo's own mailman is smarter than I am, and obfuscates the address
in public archives - I hope other places that capture OSGeo mailing
lists are also smarter than me :D

My sincere apologies!

Also to everyone else, nominate people :)

Adam

On Tue, 5 Jul 2022 at 14:53, Jeff McKenna  wrote:
>
> Hi Adam,
>
> Yes, simple for spam bots to attack that address (that comes to me).
>
> Background: for the past 18 years (wow) I've been managing that award
> process, and for all of those years the nominations email address was
> posted as-is on websites, announcements, etc.
>
> I would get 20+ spam attacks/day sent to that email address, at least.
>
> So starting for this year's process, you are correct that we are not
> publishing the email address as-is anymore (instead, using tricks as
> solkatzaward at lists dot osgeo dot org )
>
> This one change has made a massive difference.  It can't fully beat the
> spam bots, but it does throw them a wrench to deal with.
>
> So please try to refrain from posting that full email address.
>
> Now you understand why :)
>
> Finally, thanks for sharing the passion for #foss4g !  It is wonderful
> to see the tradition of thanking someone in the FOSS4G community
> continue, now for 18 years.
>
> -jeff
>
>
> --
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> co-founder of FOSS4G
> http://gatewaygeo.com/
>
>
>
> On 2022-07-05 8:25 a.m., Adam Steer wrote:
> > Hi Oceanians - see below.
> >
> > To make it a bit simpler, the e-mail address for nominations is:
> >
> > solkatzaw...@lists.osgeo.org <mailto:solkatzaw...@lists.osgeo.org>
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Adam
> >
> >
> >
> > -- Forwarded message -
> > From: *Victoria Rautenbach via Discuss*  > <mailto:disc...@lists.osgeo.org>>
> > Date: Tue, Jul 5, 2022, 12:52
> > Subject: [OSGeo-Discuss] Reminder: Sol Katz Award for Geospatial Free
> > and Open Source Software - Call for Nominations
> > To: mailto:annou...@lists.osgeo.org>>,
> > osgeolist mailto:disc...@lists.osgeo.org>>
> >
> >
> > Just a reminder that the nominations for the Sol Katz Award will close
> > end-of-day on 8 July.
> >
> > Please see below for more information.
> >
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Apr 29, 2022 at 2:34 PM Victoria Rautenbach
> > mailto:victoria.rautenb...@gmail.com>>
> > wrote:
> >  >
> >  > News item by Jeff McKenna
> >  > Published at
> > https://www.osgeo.org/foundation-news/sol-katz-award-for-geospatial-free-and-open-source-software-call-for-nominations-2/
> >  
> > <https://www.osgeo.org/foundation-news/sol-katz-award-for-geospatial-free-and-open-source-software-call-for-nominations-2/>
> >  >
> >  > The Open Source Geospatial Foundation would like to open nominations
> > for the 2022 Sol Katz Award for Geospatial Free and Open Source Software.
> >  >
> >  > The Sol Katz Award for Free and Open Source Software for Geospatial
> > (FOSS4G) will be given to individuals who have demonstrated leadership
> > in the FOSS4G community. Recipients of the award will have contributed
> > significantly through their activities to advance open source ideals in
> > the geospatial realm.
> >  >
> >  > Sol Katz was an early pioneer of FOSS4G and left behind a large body
> > of work in the form of applications, format specifications, and
> > utilities while at the U.S. Bureau of Land Management. This early FOSS4G
> > archive provided both source code and applications freely available to
> > the community. Sol was also a frequent contributor to many geospatial
> > list servers, providing much guidance to the geospatial community at large.
> >  >
> >  > Sol unfortunately passed away in 1999 from Non-Hodgkin's Lymphoma,
> > but his legacy lives on in the open source world. Those interested in
> > making a donation to the American Cancer Society, as per Sol's family's
> > request, can do so at https://donate.cancer.org
> > <https://donate.cancer.org> .
> >  >
> >  > Nominations for the Sol Katz Award should be sent to solkatzaward at
> > lists dot osgeo dot org with a description of the reasons for this
> > nomination (after sending, please wait for the moderator to accept your
> > message). Nominations will be accepted until end-of-day July 8th
> > Anyw

[OSGeo Oceania] Fwd: [OSGeo-Discuss] Reminder: Sol Katz Award for Geospatial Free and Open Source Software - Call for Nominations

[Adam Steer]

Hi Oceanians - see below.

To make it a bit simpler, the e-mail address for nominations is:

solkatzaw...@lists.osgeo.org

Cheers,

Adam




-- Forwarded message -
From: Victoria Rautenbach via Discuss 
Date: Tue, Jul 5, 2022, 12:52
Subject: [OSGeo-Discuss] Reminder: Sol Katz Award for Geospatial Free and
Open Source Software - Call for Nominations
To: , osgeolist 


Just a reminder that the nominations for the Sol Katz Award will close
end-of-day on 8 July.

Please see below for more information.



On Fri, Apr 29, 2022 at 2:34 PM Victoria Rautenbach
 wrote:
>
> News item by Jeff McKenna
> Published at
https://www.osgeo.org/foundation-news/sol-katz-award-for-geospatial-free-and-open-source-software-call-for-nominations-2/
>
> The Open Source Geospatial Foundation would like to open nominations for
the 2022 Sol Katz Award for Geospatial Free and Open Source Software.
>
> The Sol Katz Award for Free and Open Source Software for Geospatial
(FOSS4G) will be given to individuals who have demonstrated leadership in
the FOSS4G community. Recipients of the award will have contributed
significantly through their activities to advance open source ideals in the
geospatial realm.
>
> Sol Katz was an early pioneer of FOSS4G and left behind a large body of
work in the form of applications, format specifications, and utilities
while at the U.S. Bureau of Land Management. This early FOSS4G archive
provided both source code and applications freely available to the
community. Sol was also a frequent contributor to many geospatial list
servers, providing much guidance to the geospatial community at large.
>
> Sol unfortunately passed away in 1999 from Non-Hodgkin's Lymphoma, but
his legacy lives on in the open source world. Those interested in making a
donation to the American Cancer Society, as per Sol's family's request, can
do so at https://donate.cancer.org .
>
> Nominations for the Sol Katz Award should be sent to solkatzaward at
lists dot osgeo dot org with a description of the reasons for this
nomination (after sending, please wait for the moderator to accept your
message). Nominations will be accepted until end-of-day July 8th Anywhere
on Earth. A recipient will be decided from the nomination list by the OSGeo
selection committee.
>
> The winner of the Sol Katz Award for Geospatial Free and Open Source
Software will be announced virtually during the FOSS4G 2022 event in
Florence, Italy. The hope is that the award will both acknowledge the work
of community members, and pay tribute to one of its founders, for years to
come.
>
> It should be noted that past awardees and selection committee members are
not eligible.
>
> Past Awardees:
>
>  2021: Malena Libman
>  2020: Anita Graser
>  2019: Even Rouault
>  2018: Astrid Emde
>  2017: Andrea Aime
>  2016: Jeff McKenna
>  2015: Maria Brovelli
>  2014: Gary Sherman
>  2013: Arnulf Christl
>  2012: Venkatesh Raghavan
>  2011: Martin Davis
>  2010: Helena Mitasova
>  2009: Daniel Morissette
>  2008: Paul Ramsey
>  2007: Steve Lime
>  2006: Markus Neteler
>  2005: Frank Warmerdam
>
> Selection Committee 2022:
>
> Jeff McKenna (chair)
> Frank Warmerdam
> Markus Neteler
> Steve Lime
> Paul Ramsey
> Sophia Parafina
> Daniel Morissette
> Helena Mitasova
> Martin Davis
> Venkatesh Raghavan
> Arnulf Christl
> Gary Sherman
> Maria Brovelli
> Andrea Aime
> Astrid Emde
> Even Rouault
> Anita Graser
> Ariel Anthieni
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Re: [OSGeo Oceania] [Oceania-Board] Endorsement by OSGeo Oceania

[Adam Steer]

Hei Martin,

Thanks for pulling this out into the general discussion list. Perhaps a
good time to encourage anyone interested in governance of OSGeo Oceania to
subscribe to the public board list:
https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/oceania-board

About endorsement, I don't see endorsement of companies or services as an
encouraging direction for OO or FOSS4G SotM Oceania.

Sponsorship benefits (display of logo etc) should not be seen as
endorsement, perhaps this should be explicit in sponsorship agreements if
it is not already.

I think it's fine for both OO and FOSS4G SotM Oceania to seek sponsorship -
otherwise both don't survive. In 2018 we discussed the ethics of
sponsorship, for example 'if company X wants to sponsor but is funded by
the arbitrary detention of refugees, should we take their money?'.

There was no good answer - the sponsorship agreement simply reflected some
values that we expected to see upheld, and sponsors had the opportunity
then to walk away if they felt they could not abide by those. Maybe this
process could be stronger / better defined - I know for me I would be
disappointed to see the logo of certain organisations flying high at an OO
(or OSGeo more broadly) event, because their actions are clearly dissonant
to the values of an open and inclusive community.

It was good to see what appeared to be a consensus that OO should not get
involved in endorsement [1], and I hope the same is true for FOSS4G SotM
Oceania.

With care from the high arctic,

Adam

[1]
https://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/oceania-board/2022-February/thread.html

On Mon, Feb 7, 2022, 23:54 Martin Tomko  wrote:

> Dear all,
>
> This is a very interesting and relevant discussion for the community ( I
> presume triggered by some ongoing board discussion). I am not sure why I am
> still on the Board mailing list, but as I am not a member of the board, I
> should probably not respond here. Can I please ask we move this to the
> general list of the community, as this is an item of general interest?
> Cc-ing oceania@osgeo.
>
>
>
> I believe there will be hot takes on this topic, and it would be
> preferrable to have a broad agreement in the community ( although maybe not
> consensus, at least a compromise).
>
>
>
> M.
>
>
>
>
>
> *From: *Oceania-Board  on behalf
> of Emma Hain 
> *Date: *Tuesday, 8 February 2022 at 9:44 am
> *To: *Edoardo Neerhut 
> *Cc: *OSGeo Oceania Board 
> *Subject: *Re: [Oceania-Board] Endorsement by OSGeo Oceania
>
>  How would this fit in to a marketplace where OS economical endeavours are
> supported ?
>
>
>
> On Tue, 8 Feb 2022, 8:37 am Edoardo Neerhut,  wrote:
>
> I agree that OO should never endorse products or services.
>
>
>
> There might be times where it is legitimate to refer to an open source
> geospatial product or service though. This should be done carefully and
> within suitable context. Maybe worth fleshing this out.
>
>
>
> I disagree that OO can't seek sponsorship. I see this as in the community
> interest.
>
>
>
> On Mon, 7 Feb 2022, 13:57 Jonah Sullivan, 
> wrote:
>
> My position on endorsement of commercial (or free) services is that OSGeo
> Oceania doesn't do it...at all. We financially support the Oceania
> community's grass-roots initiatives (mainly events), and OSGeo's
> initiatives, but we don't endorse commercial service providers. One of the
> grass-roots initiatives OSGeo Oceania supports is the FOSS4G SotM Oceania
> Conference, which is administered by a separate committee: that group seeks
> sponsors and endorses service providers, but OSGeo Oceania doesn't.
>
>
>
> Is that a controversial position? Should OSGeo Oceania endorse service
> providers?
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Re: [OSGeo Oceania] [FOSS4G-Oceania] FOSS4G 2023

[Adam Steer]

Hei Jonah

..well, publicly available insider info :D

It's up to the local community to decide what to do, of course - and
there is always a risk it doesn't work out.

A super quick note - the process doesn't have to be driven by the OO
board, the board really needs only to decide if it will support anyone
in the community who builds a team and starts work (ideally if a
global F4G happens in Oceania any year, it replaces the local event so
effort is focussed on one thing)

If anyone is interested about what level of detail is needed now, the
FOSS4G 2022 letter of intent is here:
https://www.osgeo.org/wp-content/uploads/letter_of_intent_Firenze_2022.pdf

Cheers,

Adam






On Fri, 4 Feb 2022 at 00:55, Jonah Sullivan  wrote:
>
> Thanks for the insider information Adam.
>
> I think we'll do well to have an in-person conference here in Oceania this 
> year. The Locate Conference is planning to have a big in-person geospatial 
> conference here in Canberra in May: the first in-person geospatial conference 
> in Australia that I know of.
>
> The past two years have been hybrid online/hubs, which have had varying 
> degrees of success (as you would expect). The 2021 FOSS4G conference almost 
> collapsed due to a lack of interest, but Edoardo pulled it together and 
> delivered some good content and several hub managers rallied their local 
> areas really well.
>
> The Australian Government still isn't allowing tourist visas or cruise ships, 
> which is probably going to change sooner rather than later. Personally, I'm 
> planning a lot of international travel this year, starting with a trip to 
> Singapore in May, and maybe more trips to Southeast Asia as soon as next 
> month. Hopefully the ease of travel within Oceania returns to 2019 levels 
> this year, but I'm sure the governments of several Small Island Developing 
> States will prefer to keep their citizens safe longer than the Australian 
> Government.
>
> I'll talk to the OSGeo Oceania Board about the opportunity but the initial 
> reaction hasn't been positive.
>
> On Fri, 4 Feb 2022, 05:26 Adam Steer,  wrote:
>>
>> Hei Oceania
>>
>> In case it has escaped everyone's attention, FOSS4G 2023 does not have
>> a home, or any letters of intent to host it yet - so the deadline for
>> an expression of interest is likely to be extended [1]
>>
>> Maybe it's time? hosting the global FOSS4G in Oceania again has been
>> discussed as long as I was involved with OO. FOSS4G SotM Oceania shows
>> that there is probably enough local interest to carry the event even
>> if a lot of people cannot travel from north of the equator - and
>> there's a great set of people with experience in running travel grants
>> - and there are great local teams in all corners of Oceania.
>>
>> Just a thought ;). The relevant process is here:
>>
>> https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/FOSS4G_2023_Bid_Process
>>
>> Hope all is well, with care from the high Arctic..
>>
>> Adam
>>
>> [1] 
>> https://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/conference_dev/2022-February/005730.html
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[OSGeo Oceania] FOSS4G 2023

[Adam Steer]

Hei Oceania

In case it has escaped everyone's attention, FOSS4G 2023 does not have
a home, or any letters of intent to host it yet - so the deadline for
an expression of interest is likely to be extended [1]

Maybe it's time? hosting the global FOSS4G in Oceania again has been
discussed as long as I was involved with OO. FOSS4G SotM Oceania shows
that there is probably enough local interest to carry the event even
if a lot of people cannot travel from north of the equator - and
there's a great set of people with experience in running travel grants
- and there are great local teams in all corners of Oceania.

Just a thought ;). The relevant process is here:

https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/FOSS4G_2023_Bid_Process

Hope all is well, with care from the high Arctic..

Adam

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[OSGeo Oceania] OSGeo Oceania newsletter

[Adam Steer]

Hei folks

I just this week got a newsletter in my inbox from OSGeo Oceania (OO),
and have some suggestions for next time :)

First, it would be great to rearrange content so that
community-relevant news comes before a bunch of promotions for various
companies. It seems weird that the OO election notice especially was
relegated to the back.

Next, please send plain text. I was a bit surprised to find a 4+ mb
PDF wrapping content worth maybe a couple of hundred kb. A html
formatted email would have been better, but still not great.

Reason 1: It's been great accessibility practice for decades to send
mailouts as plain text, especially if there is not a dedicated (paid,
full time) person designing accessible content using other media.
Reason 2: e-mail has an environmental footprint. That 4mb PDF has been
transmitted and stored a bunch of times, consuming bandwidth and
storage it doesn't need to. Sure, its small in the scheme of global
traffic - but OO is here to lead on sustainability, right?

Next, it would still be awesome to see a clear personal data statement
- the announcement came via mailchimp, and I know it is a list I
signed up to get news from at some point, but it is rarely made clear
that people signing up to the list are handing data to Mailchimp and
OO really has no idea what Mailchimp does with it. Its totally OK to
be open about it - something like 'hey this is our announcement list
you'll get periodic announcements. It is run by Mailchimp, who keep
your e-mail address and track clicks and other things, and we really
don't know what they do with that data. If that's OK by you, click to
subscribe'.

Last of all, can OO make clear its relationship with the companies it
is promoting via e-mai, ahead of its own content? are they sponsors?
What is the reason OO is promoting them - is it documented anywhere?

Comms is a hard bear to wrestle in OO - I know from experience.I make
these suggestions with the aim of reducing volunteer load (keeping it
real simple is smart, the better KISS principile :) ), and meeting
OO's goals of leading on community and environmental sustainability.

I don't personally expect or need responses to any of the above,
they're points to consider rather than things I need to feel in
control of.

Thanks, and good luck!

Adam
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Re: [OSGeo Oceania] Talk presented to ARDC a while back - map credits needed!

[Adam Steer]

Thanks! Update imminent...

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On Tue, 13 Jul 2021, 07:44 Alex Leith,  wrote:

> Yep, Pete King:
> https://twitter.com/Generally_Geo/status/1187680733571108864
>
> On Tue, 13 Jul 2021 at 15:41, John Bryant  wrote:
>
>> Thanks Adam! I think the p 14 map was Pete King.
>>
>> On Tue, 13 Jul 2021 at 13:35, Adam Steer  wrote:
>>
>>> Hei Oceania folks,
>>>
>>> A while ago I delivered a presentation about OSGeo Oceania  to the ARDC
>>> geospatial community of practice (
>>> https://sites.google.com/ardc.edu.au/geospatialcapcop).
>>>
>>> Just yesterday the slides were published with a DOI:
>>>
>>>  https://doi.org/10.5281/zenodo.5093995
>>>
>>> I realised I did not add map credits for slides 12 and 14. John Bryant
>>> made the map on slide 12, but can't recall who made slide 14 ( one of the
>>> Andrews from Aotearoa?) - if anyone can remind me I'll get it updated
>>> pronto, and apologies for not doing so a lot earlier!
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> Adam
>>>
>>>
>>>
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[OSGeo Oceania] Talk presented to ARDC a while back - map credits needed!

[Adam Steer]

Hei Oceania folks,

A while ago I delivered a presentation about OSGeo Oceania  to the ARDC
geospatial community of practice (
https://sites.google.com/ardc.edu.au/geospatialcapcop).

Just yesterday the slides were published with a DOI:

 https://doi.org/10.5281/zenodo.5093995

I realised I did not add map credits for slides 12 and 14. John Bryant made
the map on slide 12, but can't recall who made slide 14 ( one of the
Andrews from Aotearoa?) - if anyone can remind me I'll get it updated
pronto, and apologies for not doing so a lot earlier!

Cheers,

Adam



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Re: [OSGeo Oceania] Open Board Meetings

[Adam Steer]

+1 to John, great approach and wonderful to see.

Best,

Adam

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On Tue, 6 Apr 2021, 5:10 am Edoardo Neerhut,  wrote:

> Hi everyone,
>
> *Open board meetings*
> In our last board meeting
> <https://drive.google.com/file/d/1mDVp-6-0jwI-ho-cxmLv5-mSEXxRxCJL/view?usp=sharing>,
> the board agreed that board meetings will be open so that anyone who is
> interested can attend. This has been discussed in the past, but to be
> perfectly honest had slipped our minds in some of the recent board
> meetings. There may be sections of the board meeting that need to be
> discussed in private, but these are few and far between.
>
> *Public calendar for OSGeo Oceania*
> There has been an OSGeo Oceania public calendar
> <https://calendar.google.com/calendar/embed?src=dgea06cf2tu9ukl2f7nmfqjp98%40group.calendar.google.com&ctz=America%2FLos_Angeles%5C>
>  for
> a little while now which contains all our scheduled board meetings, but it
> needs more visibility. Feel free to add events to it and let me know if you
> have trouble accessing it.
>
> *Next board meeting*
> The next board meeting is on April 15th at 2:00 am UTC and a far more
> reasonable hour in Oceania! The agenda is very much a WIP, but can be found
> here
> <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1d_Onmg6B7jvYwVxnL_2mAScIqmKq0-6Lyg0A3um6wus/edit#>.
> Feel free to add comments if there are things you are curious about and we
> can work them into the agenda.
>
> Best,
>
> Ed
>
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[OSGeo Oceania] 2019 conference trees - purchase confirmed

[Adam Steer]

Hi OSGeo Oceania

Another key step toward getting those 2019 conference trees is done -
Tony Forster generously acquired the seedlings, and will get refunded
by OO.

Fingers crossed no further craziness happens, these seedlings can go
in the ground this winter, then live to become massive carbon tanks
and biodiversity-multipliers for the next few hundred years.

Huge thanks to Tony Forster for keeping the dream alive, and also to
this community for supporting it in the first place.

I hope all is well over on the other side of the planet (writing from
Tromsø, Northern Norway).

Best,

Adam
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Re: [OSGeo Oceania] OSGeo Oceania AGM Video and Minutes

[Adam Steer]

hey all,

thanks for posting the minutes Alex, and really great to see this
conversation about voting framed in 'lightest possible touch' for members
with respect to privacy.

Cheers,

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Re: [OSGeo Oceania] OSM Community issue

[Adam Steer]

Thanks Phil, that has a lot of great and extremely transferable points.

It is good to see at least in-principle support for the OSM call to
action from the OO board [1] - and hope we see longstanding CoC
discussions resolved ASAP ;)

Best,
Adam

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Re: [OSGeo Oceania] FW: OSM Community issue

[Adam Steer]

heya

I have signed personally the call to action and am absolutely supportive if
OSGeo Oceania wants to lend its support given its place as an OSMF regional
chapter, with respect to the new board bedding itself in and allowing a
response rather than a reaction.

Adopting a CoC has been discussed since the idea of forming OSGeo Oceania
was a spark in the collective mind - the Berlin code of conduct,
contributors covenant and others being raised many times (or even adopting
a FOSS4G SotM CoC - the conference series has always been great at getting
this done).

Best,

Adam
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Re: [OSGeo Oceania] A discussion on openness

[Adam Steer]

Hey Ed

Thanks for initiating this discussion. My story is long and boring and
yes, the fundamental reason for resigning is that I literally could
not interact with the board anymore - because of ethical concerns,
because it just felt like a drain on my time and energy, because I
really felt like I had wasted so much time being forced into circular
discussions and projects (eg communications, which is still a giant
and growing tangle) - so I leave this discussion and the incoming
board with some suggestions:

- always remember the community does not need OSGeo Oceania, but OSGeo
Oceania needs the community.
- always give people space to speak for themselves, especially in
board meetings.
- always respect peoples' efforts and experience and input, and do it
consistently for everyone
- as John indicated, operating transparently is easy and fruitful. The
tools are there use them
- as you indicated, always propose a solution when a problem is raised
- remember we have a broad, caring, thoughtful, enthusiastic and
deeply experienced community to draw on
- remember we have existing patterns for open and transparent
operation to draw on (OSGeo in particular, the book Bruce mentioned,
other long established chapters of OSGeo and OSM, orgs like Linux
Australia), and ready collaborators for taking on projects like
building open conference systems
- remember to care about ethics, particularly around how we handle
personal data we are trusted with and who we hand it to. Take the time
to learn about how companies we use (eg Mailchimp) operate instead of
just glossing over data issues for convenience.
- value transparency over bells and whistles in communication.
Remember http has also been around a while but we don't call it the
cockroach of the internet - and even fancy mailers use ancient mail
transfer protocols ;). Mailing lists persist because they are
incredibly functional and useful.
- avoid becoming another SSSI.

Congratulations on being elected to the board, I hope the organisation
remembers its roots in this coming year. I am unlikely to spend much
OSGeo Oceania time for a while - however feel free to reach out about
any wrinkles you find that have my name attached. I've made as much
mess as anyone, and haven't been particularly great at handing over
things

Best,
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Re: [OSGeo Oceania] [Aus-NZ-QGIS-group] Community consultation: OO Org QGIS Special Interest Group Charter

[Adam Steer]

ng to push this forward. It has been a 
>> couple of months since I last looked at this, and I haven't really had a 
>> detailed look at the SIG concept yet.
>>
>> I'm 'out of the office' for the next few days, but would be happy to join in 
>> this discussion when I get back, and have a proper chance to refresh my 
>> memory and get up to speed on SIGs.
>>
>> One brief thought, it feels like it would be good to consider a free (or 
>> very inexpensive) tier of membership. I suspect many of us can't justify (or 
>> can't afford) to spend much, but could contribute in other ways.
>>
>> Cheers
>> John
>>
>> On Fri, 27 Nov 2020, 9:46 am Andrew Jeffrey,  wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Adam,
>>>
>>> Thanks for the feedback.
>>>
>>> I agree the SIG shouldn't bring about any duplication of the processes that 
>>> the OO currently does. A SIG as defined in the guidelines should be 
>>> "enabling OSGeo Oceania members to interact, share knowledge, organise 
>>> events, and collaborate on a selected, targeted topic within the scope of 
>>> OSGeo Oceania". So a SIG should be complementary to the OO function and 
>>> allow the interested community members to drive engagement in that area 
>>> without the OO board having to do it all. Like you say though, open 
>>> communication between the SIG and the OO board is key in making sure there 
>>> is no overlap being introduced. Also to be clear the SIG isn’t seeking 
>>> “sponsorship” as such but we do want to be able to collect a membership fee 
>>> for people/orgs wanting to be involved, allowing them to fund items that 
>>> maybe other OO members don’t see as important. I don’t see this taking away 
>>> from conference sponsorship and this idea will ultimately sink or swim 
>>> depending on whether the SIG members have an appetite to fund the items in 
>>> our scope.
>>>
>>> As for the conflict of interest, to be honest I don't know the answer in 
>>> regards to how that should be dealt with. I think we need to add something 
>>> in the charter, would removing those people from the proposal and voting 
>>> process be enough? How does OO deal with this? I don’t want to rule local 
>>> devs out of working on this because they belong to the group, but we also 
>>> don’t want to become the entry point to company XYZ.
>>>
>>> Thanks for the feedback.
>>>
>>> Andrew
>>>
>>> On Fri, Nov 27, 2020 at 7:35 AM Adam Steer  wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hey Andrew and all the QGIS SIG proposers
>>>>
>>>> Thanks, I think this is a perfect use of OSGeo Oceania as a backing
>>>> organisation :)
>>>>
>>>> My only reservation with any SIG proposal is that effort isn't
>>>> duplicated about events and marketing, and also that a funding from a
>>>> small pool of interested parties (relative to other parts of the
>>>> world) is able to be effectively spread among the whole community. For
>>>> an example it would be a bit awry to see a SIG gather a heap of
>>>> funding at the expense of conference sponsorships. I guess in that
>>>> case the SIG could also sponsor conferences? This goes the other way
>>>> too - the existence of a well connected SIG makes it easier for OO to
>>>> fund a QGIS feature (for example) if it decides to do so.
>>>>
>>>> I think clear, constant and open communication between OO and the SIG
>>>> will make those concerns go away.
>>>>
>>>> In writing this I did work my thoughts through to  a serious question:
>>>> How will the SIG deal with conflicts of interest? A stated aim of the
>>>> SIG is to fund development, what will the SIG do if all the key QGIS
>>>> developers in the region are also in the group of people making
>>>> decisions about buying developer time?
>>>>
>>>> My only comment on the charter itself is that if you want, you can
>>>> link to the existing Berlin Code of Conduct:
>>>> https://berlincodeofconduct.org/ - with which the upcoming OO CoC
>>>> should be 100% compatible.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>>
>>>> Adam
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, 26 Nov 2020 at 04:37, Andrew Jeffrey  wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> > Hi All,
>>>> >
>>>> > The OSGeo Oceania board has approved an initiative 

[OSGeo Oceania] resignation, board minutes

[Adam Steer]

Hey Oceania

I resigned from the OSGeo Oceania board yesterday. While elections are
soon, I found it impossible to continue as a positive contributor to
the organisation. My views about why are found in the upcoming annual
report and also the Oceania board mailing list archive [1]. Please
feel free to keep asking me about anything about anything I was
involved in, also feel free to throw it all away and do better. I
don't own anything in the organisation; and this community owes me
nothing.

I look forward to seeing the organisation rediscover its Pleaides /
Kuurrokeheaar / Matariki, with a fresh set of board representatives
about to be elected bringing new energy and ideas.

To finish on a hugely positive note, Alex got all the board meeting
minutes up to date on the OSGeo Oceania wiki yesterday:

https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Oceania#Meeting_minutes

...and it was wonderful to see the community build itself a gathering
in 2020 out of a crazy trainwreck of a year.

All the best from the very far north,

Adam


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Re: [OSGeo Oceania] Fwd: [Oceania-Board-Private] FOSS4G SotM Oceania trees

[Adam Steer]

Hey Alex, thanks for the reminder. I've directly added Tony Forster,
Ewen Hill and Ed Neerhut to this response.

What is left to do?

- OSGeo Oceania needs to pay for 250 seedlings
I will ask Tony in a moment to get an invoice raised for the seedlings
- so OSGeo Oceania can pay for them. That’s the last direct task the
OO board has to do.

- sometime in June/July/August these seedlings will need planting
Tony has this all in hand via Friends of Lysterfield. Coronavirus
conditions permitting, I hope there is a chance to make a community
event out of it.

From my point of view:
Here is where I hope Ed and Ewen can pick up the reins and organise
something with Tony. Martin Tomko might also be a good resource to
call upon, with links to the unimelb student/research community, if
there’s a neat way to use this project as a longer term study site.

Another opportunity for involvement of the the OO board here, mainly
around organising communications about the project with friends of
Lysterfield

I hope other people come up with even better and more creative ideas
around this project than I can.

Looking forward to seeing those trees appear in the ground and OSM in
2021, and hopefully get bigger each year. Thanks again to the
community and OO board for supporting this protracted plan.

Adam

On Fri, 27 Nov 2020 at 23:08, Alex Leith  wrote:
>
> Hey Adam
>
> Could we please get an update on the tree planting initiative.
>
> I've lost track of how much money we've committed. I know we spent $575 on 
> tree guards a while ago, and that we're planning on ordering 250 seedlings... 
> I'd like to include the outstanding expense as a liability, so there's a 
> record of it.
>
> I'm guessing planting will not be possible until June/July 2021, right?
>
> And is it worth handing over the relationship with Tony Forster to someone 
> else, considering your distance from Victoria currently?
>
> For the list, here's Tony's proposal document 
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1BbmRF241Vd4QWZRt6l6FBWwtklzhg-ghgbnm2N9YQ6M/edit
>
> Cheers,
>
> -- Forwarded message -
> From: Adam Steer 
> Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2020 at 15:49
> Subject: [Oceania-Board-Private] FOSS4G SotM Oceania trees
> To: 
>
>
> hey Board
>
> The FOSS4G SotM 2019 tree planting project will be delayed till next year. 
> Tony Forster has looked at a lot of options, however the project area is in 
> stage 4 lockdown until too late to establish the seedlings properly this 
> year, and in comms with the nursery has advised that it is better to delay a 
> year and make sure the trees we plant survive!
>
> The nursery will ask us to pay in advance for new seedlings for next year 
> (don't worry, we still only pay for the amount we need), which is great - 
> we've been trying to pay in advance for a while now! I've asked for an 
> invoice.
>
> ...and I'll keep comms open with Tony about progress.
>
> Regards
>
> Adam
>
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Re: [OSGeo Oceania] [Aus-NZ-QGIS-group] Community consultation: OO Org QGIS Special Interest Group Charter

[Adam Steer]

Hey Andrew and all the QGIS SIG proposers

Thanks, I think this is a perfect use of OSGeo Oceania as a backing
organisation :)

My only reservation with any SIG proposal is that effort isn't
duplicated about events and marketing, and also that a funding from a
small pool of interested parties (relative to other parts of the
world) is able to be effectively spread among the whole community. For
an example it would be a bit awry to see a SIG gather a heap of
funding at the expense of conference sponsorships. I guess in that
case the SIG could also sponsor conferences? This goes the other way
too - the existence of a well connected SIG makes it easier for OO to
fund a QGIS feature (for example) if it decides to do so.

I think clear, constant and open communication between OO and the SIG
will make those concerns go away.

In writing this I did work my thoughts through to  a serious question:
How will the SIG deal with conflicts of interest? A stated aim of the
SIG is to fund development, what will the SIG do if all the key QGIS
developers in the region are also in the group of people making
decisions about buying developer time?

My only comment on the charter itself is that if you want, you can
link to the existing Berlin Code of Conduct:
https://berlincodeofconduct.org/ - with which the upcoming OO CoC
should be 100% compatible.

Cheers,

Adam


On Thu, 26 Nov 2020 at 04:37, Andrew Jeffrey  wrote:
>
> Hi All,
>
> The OSGeo Oceania board has approved an initiative for members to form 
> Special Interest Groups (SIGs) within the OO community.
>
> A SIG is a way for community members to collaborate around common interests 
> which in this case is QGIS.
>
> In establishing a SIG, the OO board requires that the group proposing the SIG 
> put forward a charter which outlines the Aim and Scope under which the SIG 
> will operate.
>
> Myself, Emma Hain, John Bryant, Nathan Woodrow and Nyall Dawson would like to 
> start a QGIS SIG which can be used to benefit QGIS users in our community. To 
> get things started we have come up with a charter that we would like to make 
> available for community consultation. As this charter currently reflects our 
> input we would like to put this out for discussion to see if what we are 
> proposing is on the right path for the community. At the moment everyone with 
> the link below has "comment" permissions, but "edit" permissions can be 
> granted on request if you would like to get more involved and you're welcome 
> to do so.
>
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1lrewntrC0N1r6mfZdo1AdPhe2qTEaN5hDA2pcL0mrvI/edit?usp=sharing
>
> I also just want to be upfront that this SIG is proposing that there be a 
> membership fee associated with the group. The funds raised by the membership 
> will be stored with the OO org and then used by the SIG on items as scoped 
> out in the charter. The idea with the membership is not to "make money" but 
> to pool our small contributions to give us better "buying power" for lack of 
> a better term. As a SIG within the OO org we can participate in crowdfunding 
> campaigns, engage a dev to develop a feature important to us but might not be 
> recognised as important to the larger QGIS project, or engage a trainer to 
> provide professional development via Zoom, the types of things that are hard 
> to do as individuals or as a user group with no funds etc. The membership 
> arrangement also allows us to offer membership to organisations which will 
> become a way for them to support QGIS and their local QGIS community. 
> Ideally, this is where a majority of the funds would come from as we don't 
> want an individu
 al to be excluded due to a "fee", which is also covered in the charter. I'm 
available as I'm sure the other proposers are to discuss the intention of this 
further and in the open on this list.
>
> Any questions feel free to ask or if you prefer to comment on the charter 
> that is fine too.
>
> I look forward to discussing this with you.
>
> Thanks
> Andrew
>
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Re: [OSGeo Oceania] Ex-chair's perspective (OSGeo Oceania 2019-2020)

[Adam Steer]

Hi John, all

Thanks for being open about your experiences as the chair, and
director of OSGeo Oceania. I hope we as a board have the courage to
add this to the annual report unedited - acceptance of dissent and
criticism is a vital indicator of our organisational health.

I also hope the next board brings a lot more discussion this list.

And I want to reinforce your call for community members to engage with
the organisation, whether formally members of OSGeo Oceania or OSGeo
or OSMF or not. It should not matter. I also encourage everyone to
subscribe to the oceania-board list here:
https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/oceania-board - if nothing
else to listen in. Or at least know it exists and where you can see
discussion take place.

On the last point about incoming board members: I will always be happy
to answer questions for incoming directors - so long as they come on
open channels ;)

Cheers,

Adam

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Re: [OSGeo Oceania] Resignation from OSGeo Oceania board

[Adam Steer]

Hi Daniel

Thanks for your efforts so far - an epic amount of work getting OSGeo
Oceania off the ground in the first place, and particularly
coordinating the 2019 edition of FOSS4G SotM Oceania. I am certain the
community will continue to benefit from your involvement, however you
want to engage.

Cheers, from pretty close to the other end of the planet...

Adam


On Mon, 23 Nov 2020 at 21:45, Daniel Silk  wrote:
>
> Hi all
>
> I have resigned from the OSGeo Oceania board. We have more than enough 
> capable candidates for board positions in the forthcoming election and I wish 
> them all the best.
>
> I look forward to finding other ways of continuing my own contributions to 
> the community.
>
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Re: [OSGeo Oceania] Nominations - OSGeo Oceania board election

[Adam Steer]

Thanks John and Ed - I think this set of candidates will make voting
really tough, and I look forward to replacing myself with any one
them.

To all the nominees, thanks for signing up to spend your volunteer
time on OSGeo Oceania. I hope it is rewarding for you all!

Cheers,

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[OSGeo Oceania] Fwd: [Charter-members] OSGeo 2020 Board of Directors elections: CALL FOR NOMINATIONS

[Adam Steer]

See below

-- Forwarded message -
From: Jorge Gustavo Rocha 
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2020, 17:17
Subject: [Charter-members] OSGeo 2020 Board of Directors elections: CALL
FOR NOMINATIONS
To: OSGeo Charter members 
Cc: OSGeo Chief Returning Officer 


Dear OSGeo members,

For the 4 vacant seats, we only have 3 candidates right now. We need
your help to identify more candidates to join the board [1].

The nomination period for new Members of the Board of Directors is about
to end. We can extend the period and we probably need to do so.

If you already have someone that you would like to nominate, please drop
me a message, so we can accommodate the time needed to get the candidate
confirmation.

As CRO, myself and Anne, we can not nominate anyone. As OSGeo member, I
 see so many dedicated and passionate people working on projects, on
education initiates, etc, spreading the OSGeo principles all around the
world.

Your nomination, as you know, is already a way to acknowledge the
dedication of someone else.

The nomination period will be open until Monday, 2020-11-23, for sure.
Then we decide to close it or keep it open based on your feedback.

All the information about the elections is available in the wiki [2].
You can see the progress of the nominations on [3] (soon as we receive
nominations).

Looking forward for your nominations!

Best regards,
Jorge Gustavo Rocha and Anne Ghisla
(your 2020 OSGeo Elections CROs)

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Re: [OSGeo Oceania] [Oceania-Board] OSGeo Oceania Annual General Meeting Announcement

[Adam Steer]

Hey Alex, all

Could procedural stuff (treasurers report, acceptance of reports) be
dealt with outside of the meeting (eg circulated to members some time
ahead, approved or not, and presented)? it doesn't make sense to wait
till the AGM to present reports, in case debate ensues and consumes
all the time.

Then procedural reporting could be a lot shorter, and the election of
directors / questions to directors longer, and also in one time block
together.

...and what about having everyone just join a meeting? I think that it
would be great for the highly distributed Oceania community to all
have the option of seeing each other.

Last point - there was barely any time for directors to provide input
[1]. I think it is important to allow volunteer directors more than
two days to digest a proposal and respond.

Cheers,

Adam

[1] thread: 
https://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/oceania-board/2020-November/48.html

On Fri, 13 Nov 2020 at 04:45, Alex Leith  wrote:
>
> Dear OSGeo Oceania Members
>
>
> I’m writing to invite you to the 2020 Annual General Meeting.
>
>
> The AGM will be held at midday, AEDT, on the 11th of December and you can 
> register to attend here: 
> https://us02web.zoom.us/webinar/register/WN_34NW-ez3StK0KNDD5surLg
>
>
> We’re going to run the meeting as a Zoom Webinar, and Board members will be 
> ‘presenters’ and members ‘participants’ but we can enable video for those who 
> would like to ask questions verbally. You can also participate using the Q&A 
> functionality.
>
>
> The agenda for the meeting will be as follows:
>
> 12:00 - Welcome and introductions
>
> 12:05 - Apologies
>
> 12:10 - Chair’s report
>
> 12:15 - Treasurer’s report
>
> 12:20 - Questions to Directors
>
> 12:25 - Acceptance of financial statements
>
> 12:30 - Acceptance of annual report
>
> 12:35 - Election of Directors
>
> 13:00 - Meeting close.
>
>
> Kind regards,
>
>
> Alex Leith
>
> Chair, OSGeo Oceania
>
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[OSGeo Oceania] GDAL t-shirts

[Adam Steer]

Hey Oceania folks

In case you need your next boardroom shirt, you can now buy a GDAL
tshirt, with profits going to OSGeo (the global organisation):

https://teespring.com/gdal?pid=387&cid=101810

Hope all is well in your oceans ;)

Adam
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Re: [OSGeo Oceania] Fwd: [Oceania-Board] who is voting as osgeo oceania?

[Adam Steer]

Thanks Greg - I don't know the letter of ASIC rules about recording votes,
or correcting voting errors. It *feels like* the proper thing to do is
document that votes registered to 'OSGeo Oceania' should be ignored in the
next meeting minutes, when votes by e-mail / loomio are discussed.  That
way we can openly show how we observed the risk of double votes, and moved
to resolve the issue. Fortunately in current polls this action does not
alter the result.

Good point John, this got me also, I wanted the last motion I proposed to
be fully public but messed it up - so it is good to document that in order
to use Loomio effectively, we need to run threads rather than polls. Thanks
for looking into it Greg, it does seem weird that with the settings as they
are we need to do extra gymnastics to actually achieve the desired settings
(my not-so-inner old fossil of the internet age groans '+-1 by mailing
list' at this point ;) )

Cheers,

Adam
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Re: [OSGeo Oceania] [FOSS4G-Oceania] POTENTIAL AUS WIDE SPONSORSHIP FROM ESK GIS & MAPPING

[Adam Steer]

Hey all

first, awesome news about sponsorship interest!

How about setting up a scheme where sponsors automatically get national
sponsorship at some tier / financial cutoff no matter how they are gathered
/ who generates the lead.

Anyone approaching a hub to sponsor below that clearly-defined threshold
becomes a hub sponsor and is dealt with locally (except money handling,
which needs to go to OO centrally). Anyone sponsoring below the threshold
directly to the central LOC could also be directed to the nearest hub, and
/or asked if they would like to contribute to the inclusivity / good mojo
programme instead.

This way - hubs can gather whatever sponsors they like, and so can the
event LOC. If hub venue / media / logistics sponsors are going above and
beyond but no cash changes hands, recognising those contributors using cash
equivalent levels also feels OK to me.

In terms of exposure, a minimum-level product be a 'placeholder slide' set
for usage between live webcasts? This would be generated by the LOC, with
'event wide' sponsor logos added, and space for hubs to add their own
sponsor details as appropriate.

Hope thats all useful, and thanks again to Esk GIS & Mapping.

Cheers,

Adam
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Re: [OSGeo Oceania] [FOSS4G-Oceania] Good Mojo funds

[Adam Steer]

hey folks

Good Mojo funds exist to be spent, they can't be treated like regular OO
budget money (we can't raid it if we're running low or use it as a spare
account).

I think the only real discussion is 'how to give hubs equitable amounts'
and 'is the conference going to help to fill the fund back up?' - which is
an LOC and hub level discussion, the board don't need to agonise over it.
We set pretty good guidelines in 2018, I think they were enhanced in 2019
(John and Daniel will have the latest news there) - so we have something to
say 'this fund needs to be spent on specific actions for
increasing inclusivity and breaking barriers'

I think John's questions are fine, I agree that the conference should be
able to access the whole Good Mojo fund - if the board needs to do anything
here to give the event access to all the Good Mojo fund it should do it
fast.

Cheers

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Re: [OSGeo Oceania] Call for Feedback Due 23rd Sept - Board Election Process & Timeline

[Adam Steer]

Hi John

The intent of that meeting a few days after voting is to give outgoing and
incoming directors time to complete the required forms and provide clarity
about the handover of responsibilities / liabilities - resolving issues
around timing which arose after the 2019 election.

An alternative might be to distribute proforma ASIC paperwork to all
nominees and outgoing directors - so that the documents are signed on the
day results are announced. This, however, leaves no time for election
scrutiny by the community, members or the board.

Perhaps a label change to 'meeting to confirm directors' or 'board
handover' (nice ways of saying official ASIC paperwork day) would help? If
that still feels like it contravenes the constitution, perhaps a tweak can
be proposed.

Cheers,

Adam
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Re: [OSGeo Oceania] Fwd: Call for Feedback Due 23rd Sept - Board Election Process & Timeline

[Adam Steer]

hey all

Edwin's details are in a bunch of responses to a deprecated version of the
form. So he's definitely filled it in :)

Our apologies Edwin, we will get you listed as a 'voting member' (ref: what
is a member? [1])  of OSGeo Oceania ASAP. So yes you are definitely
eligible for election to the board by any criteria we have tossed around so
far.

...and echoing John, thanks for your work so far (and into the future).

Cheers

Adam

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Re: [OSGeo Oceania] What is an OSGeo Oceania Member [was: Re: Call for Feedback Due 23rd Sept - Board Election Process & Timeline]

[Adam Steer]

Hi Bruce, all

When OSGeo Oceania became an organisation ( a company limited by guarantee
) in early 2019 [see 1] it needed to have 'members' to vote on things,
defined by ASIC rules rather than 'being around and interested and doing
cool things'.

So an 'OSGeo Oceania member' grew a formal definition of 'someone who has
signed up to be a member of the company limited by guarantee using this
form: https://bit.ly/35zSXHN'

In acknowledgement of the long tradition of 'just join in', the barrier to
entry to this new definition of 'membership' has been made very low - lower
than voting rights in OSGeo (you need to be nominated by an existing person
with voting rights) or OpenStreetMap (pay money every year).

All that came about because we (the people who set in motion the company
limited by guarantee, of which I am one) needed a way to handle money and
resources to do things, and then tried to set the lowest bar possible for
eligibility to vote in board elections / nominate to join the board.

With that super low bar in mind, there has been some discussion (with
reference to the quote from Martin's post) about how to define 'commitment
to the community' from people who nominate to be on the board, controlling
the assets and direction of an organisation which is set up with the aim of
supporting the community.

The aim is also to include everyone who *doesn't* want to take that path -
so far there have been no divisions set aside from board eligibility and
voting - for example just like OSGeo, nobody gets a discount on conferences
or events for being a member, because that sets an artificial divide in the
community.

Hope that helps explain things a bit. And please keep asking questions - we
need to pay attention if things like this are not being communicated well.

Adam

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Re: [OSGeo Oceania] Call for Feedback Due 23rd Sept - Board Election Process & Timeline

[Adam Steer]

Hey John, all

That clause was aimed at preventing people whos only interest is to get on
boards getting on the board, and has been a topic of debate. Based on your
input about the constitution its probably a good idea to just replace it
with ’nominees shall be nominated in accordance with clause 74 and 19.3 of
the constitution [link])

It is worth remembering we all just kinda nominated ourselves at the start.

Cheers

Adam



On Sun, 13 Sep 2020 at 05:43, John Bryant  wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> Great work, and thanks for the opportunity to discuss the election
> process. I've added a couple of comments to the Google doc, but I have a
> specific concern that may need a little more room for discussion.
>
> In the proposed process, there is a section called "*Minimum term of
> membership*", which says:
>
>> *To be nominated as a Director, you must have been a Member for a minimum
>> of 12 months (calculated from closing date of elections). This ensures that
>> potential Directors have had the opportunity to participate in OSGeo
>> Oceania business, and gives the Board an opportunity to mentor those who
>> would like to take up leadership positions in the future.*
>>
>
> I think there are a couple of issues with this:
>
> *1) It's not an effective way to assess someone's capability to act as a
> director. *
>
> For example, I want to nominate Edwin Liava'a to stand in the next
> election. Edwin was a keynote speaker at last year's conference in
> Wellington, and has been a highly engaged leader in the Pacific open
> geospatial community for many years. He's volunteered on a number of
> committees that would count as OSGeo Oceania business. He's done plenty to
> prove his dedication to this community, would be an asset to the
> organisation, and would be an effective voice from the Pacific, which to
> date has been missing from the board.
>
> But (as far as I can tell) Edwin's not currently a formal member, so by
> this clause he wouldn't be qualified to serve as a director, even if he
> became a member now.
>
> My point is, there are likely many people in our community who would be
> excellent additions to the board, and the length of their membership
> doesn't seem to be a relevant measure of their potential for contribution.
> If someone has a valuable contribution to make, why would we want to put
> this up as an obstacle?
>
> *2) It may not be within the board's scope to decide who is qualified to
> serve as a future director.*
>
> Required qualifications to serve as a director are already defined in the
> constitution
> 
> (section 74: simply, "*Each Director must be a Member*").
>
> Members' rights to nominate are also defined there, subject to this
> qualification (section 79.3: "*Any Member may nominate a person who is
> eligible for appointment under clause 74 to serve as a Director.*").
>
> I'm not sure that it's appropriate to use the election process to create
> additional eligibility hurdles, it seems this might be impacting on
> members' rights.
>
> If a nomination were declared ineligible based on this section in the
> election process, could a constitutional challenge be made? If the election
> process were found to be in conflict with the constitution, could this
> potentially render the election invalid? Obviously it's a hypothetical,
> unlikely scenario, but maybe not impossible.
>
> My feeling is the election process would be better without this section.
> If there are new director eligibility requirements to add, it seems a lot
> safer to stick to using constitution amendments, which would require formal
> assent by the membership through a statutory process.
>
> Cheers
> John
>
>
> On Wed, 9 Sep 2020 at 17:58, Hamish Campbell 
> wrote:
>
>> Dear OSGeo Oceania Members,
>>
>> Our proposed November 2020 election process and timeline for appointing
>> directors to the board requires your review and feedback.
>>
>> You can review and comment directly on the Google Doc
>> .
>> We also welcome feedback on the OSGeo Oceania mailing list by replying to
>> this email. Feedback to the board must be received by midnight on
>> Wednesday, September 23rd.
>>
>> The board will review the feedback and finalize the election process and
>> timeline in early October.
>>
>> Thank you for your contribution!
>>
>> On behalf of the OSGeo Oceania Election Group
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Re: [OSGeo Oceania] OSGeo Oceania Board Terms of Reference Update for Review

[Adam Steer]

Hi Trisha

Thanks - for a board 'general business list' I reckon the ideal is 'anyone
can subscribe, but only specific people can post without moderation - and
all archives are open'. Mailman has plenty of power to vary a subscribers
posting power as needed. We can get all these switches flicked on
oceania-board easily, there's only a small task to audit the archives for
anything which meets in-camera requirements.

A few OSGeo lists operate this way, including giving and taking power for
unmoderated posting to individuals as required for specific discussions.

I think clear identification of the circumstances for in-camera discussion
is great, thanks!

We still need to add this list as means of communication - I've added
suggestions to the linked doc.

Regards,

Adam



On Sat, 5 Sep 2020 at 02:51, Trisha Moriarty  wrote:

> Thank you for your comments and it's great to see active discussion on the
> draft ToR v2.0. We can certainly make the requested modifications to the
> Board's communication processes  and the ToR can be modified to reflect the
> changed practice.
>
> So just to confirm that  I understand the new process...
>
> The Oceania-board list is to be made public, that is open for all
> community members to subscribe to. Having the dedicated board list will
> make it easier to track and filter conversations in our inboxes.
> The board will  use the Oceania Board list for all board communications,
> except for those where privacy is deemed necessary.
> A new list called Ocean-board-private will be used for these
> conversations, ensuring they can be archived.
> We will list those circumstances in the ToR, so it is clear when the
> Oceania-board-private list can be used.
> Currently there are two circumstances
> 1. code of conduct breaches
> 2. commercial in confidence matters
> Are there any more? Do we need to be more specific with the commercial in
> confidence matters?
>
> I have created a V2.1 on google drive and modified to the Communication
> Section to reflect the new processes mentioned above.  This is obviously
> still open for further suggestions and refinement of both the processes and
> wording.
>
>
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1mwuJeE_NunKieUP6z4yHSmvlAd8B4ZOHD0qBqeY6DyY/edit?usp=sharing
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Re: [OSGeo Oceania] OSGeo Oceania Board Terms of Reference Update for Review

[Adam Steer]

Hi everyone

I meant to respond a lot earlier to John - this discussion is reflected in
current comments on that section of the draft ToR.

I don't see a reason why the draft ToR can't also be open for comment by
the community. Boardfolks, can we do that? (open the draft for comment?)

And +1 to everyone - there is a strong precedent for open board comms in
the OSGeo community. If the community get sick of board noise in this list,
it is easy enough to set up:

- public discussion of anything by anyone (this list)
- publicly available, publicly archived, board matters list (does not exist
yet, we could flick the rlevant switches on oceania-board and make it so)
- an in-camera list for the board, with very limited scope of discussion
(this is how the current oceania-board list works, we could ask for a new
'oceania-board-private' list)

yes its a bit more work for board members that way to manage what goes
where, but thats what we sign up for right? By nominating ourselves as
drivers of the community we say 'we have time for all this'

Thanks

Adam

On Fri, 4 Sep 2020 at 05:26, Graeme Fitzpatrick 
wrote:

>
>
> On Fri, 4 Sep 2020 at 12:59, Bruce Bannerman <
> bruce.bannerman.os...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> We have the example from our parent organisation, OSGeo, where the board
>> list is public. If someone is interested in board issues, discussions and
>> deliberations then they can subscribe and monitor discussions, contributing
>> if required. They also have the board-private list for sensitive
>> discussions.
>>
>
> That's the way it should be done, with a note in the public minutes to say
> that a private discussion was held then till then re a
> "commercial-in-confidence" matter, with public discussions resuming at .
>
> Thanks, John, for raising it, & others for your responses.
>
> Thanks
>
> Graeme
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[OSGeo Oceania] Mappy event - online and free

[Adam Steer]

Hi all

In case you're interested, I just came across this event - the ANZMapS
annual conference, themed 'mapping pacific places':

https://www.anzmaps.org/2020/06/24/mapping-pacific-places/

It looks like it is online and free to attend.

Greetings from Tromsø,
Adam

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Re: [OSGeo Oceania] Fwd: OSGeo Oceania Board Terms of Reference Update for Review

[Adam Steer]

Hi John

Responding as an individual board member, mainly because these requests
should never sit idle for more than a few days:

Thanks for sparking a fresh ToR discussion among the board. My feeling
about the changes between v1 and proposed v2 are driven by a move from 'we
are setting up...'  to 'we are operating...'.

I think the most important addition is a reference to a specific code of
conduct we apply to operations of both the board and things we support (the
Berlin Code of Conduct [1]). Another key change is a lot less proscription
about the mechanics of how conference LOCs work ( we no longer say how an
LOC should organise, just that we will support...)

Personally, I could and should have definitely paid more attention to TOR
alterations this past 6 months. It's nearly coming time for an election,
which will put a burner under us to get over a fire-and-covid-induced
languor and make sure a few things get packaged up.

Regards

Adam

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[OSGeo Oceania] Call for Outreach and Communications working group members

[adam steer]

Hi OSGeo Oceania community

(with apologies to OSGeo Oceania members who have already seen this call)

The OSGeo Oceania board has recently formed an outreach and communications
working group and we need your help! If you’re interested in helping OSGeo
Oceania communicate with its members and the broader geospatial community,
or helping us with outreach activities, we want to hear from you.
We welcome anyone who is even remotely interested. If you’re thinking ‘I’d
love to have a go at this but I don’t have experience / I’m nervous / ???’,
then jump in - because you know what? We are too. And we need your advice,
viewpoints, and experience.

A strong component of working with this group will be mentoring each other
- in all aspects of communications and also engaging in leadership within
an open source community.

Tasks may include:

   - Scheduling e-mail communications
   - Writing copy for social media channels
   - Helping write content for websites
   - Helping design websites
   - Planning and running outreach events
   - Mentoring or co-mentoring each other in all of the above

We expect that working group members attend meetings regularly, participate
in decision making and assist with communications tasks. We do all this
under the code of conduct we’ve adopted for our conferences (
https://2019.foss4g-oceania.org/cod
<https://foss4g-oceania.us17.list-manage.com/track/click?u=26f3c80da46835144592b59b6&id=c7db414d30&e=21c491c832>
)

The working group terms of reference are given here: bit.ly/2zk64iG
<https://foss4g-oceania.us17.list-manage.com/track/click?u=26f3c80da46835144592b59b6&id=1a0a05f815&e=21c491c832>

If you’d like to get involved please reply to Adam (it's not necessary to
respond to the list unless you want to).

Regards

Adam Steer

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Re: [OSGeo Oceania] resignation from OSGeo Oceania

[adam steer]

Hi John

Thanks for all your hard work and steady navigation of many complex issues.
I’m sorry to see you step down, I really appreciate your ‘radical
open-ness’ approach - which I think is critical for this organisation - and
ethical stance. I (selfishly) hope you find the energy to help with the
outreach and comms working group when you can!

Regards,

Adam



On Sat, 30 May 2020 at 08:39, John Bryant  wrote:

> Hi folks, just a quick note to let you know that I decided yesterday to
> resign from the OSGeo Oceania board of directors. I won't be continuing
> with board business, but I'll continue to contribute as a community member
> however I can.
>
> Looking forward to continuing to work on this awesome community with you
> all.
>
> Cheers
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[OSGeo Oceania] presentation to the ARDC Geospatial CoP

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Hi all

Apologies for really late notice - on Thursday I will be talking to the
Australian Research Data Commons about OSGeo Oceania and generally about
open source geospatial initiatives in the region.

I had planned to recycle slides I gave at C3DIS last year

https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1ULkm65nJQztm1FJCUCf6wBj6DqHHZlYRBfmjWdZU5Rs/edit?usp=sharing
<https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1ULkm65nJQztm1FJCUCf6wBj6DqHHZlYRBfmjWdZU5Rs/edit#slide=id.p>
(comments
welcome)

…but I think so much has changed they’re really in need of a massive
refresh. with updates about the fact that we have a new organisation; the
wellington conference is already done, this years conference will be in
Fiji; and we’ll be calling for more members soon.

Are there any things I should *really highlight* to an audience of
government and research institution folks? If so, let me know!

Feel free to respond to the list, in private, or via comments here:
https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1ULkm65nJQztm1FJCUCf6wBj6DqHHZlYRBfmjWdZU5Rs/edit?usp=sharing

(ideally I’ll wrap this into a wonderful git-hosted revealJS talk
template with live maps and stuff soon-ish…)

Regards

Adam

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Re: [OSGeo Oceania] FOSS4G SotM Oceania 2019 tree planting day

[adam steer]

Hi Ed (and all)

Thanks! I’m filling out a filming permission form for 14/15/16 August.

Ideally flights will take place the day before, or early on the same day
before people arrive (weather dependent); it won’t be practical to
undertake mapping missions and comply with CASA regulations while people
are planting / moving around on the site. The day after is there just in
case weather isn’t kind… and we might want to capture trees at the start of
their life as well.

Just had a thought strike me - is anyone in academia listening who wants to
start a project on yellow box woodland development? good opportunity here…
;)

Cheers,

Adam



On Wed, 12 Feb 2020 at 15:44, Edoardo Neerhut  wrote:

> Love your work Adam. And thanks to Tony and Mick as well.
>
> In terms of the pre-planting aerial survey, would you do that on the day
> itself if permission is granted?
>
> On Wed, 12 Feb 2020 at 11:52, adam steer  wrote:
>
>> Hi all
>>
>> I'm excited to report that the FOSS4G SotM Oceania 2019 tree planting
>> program has been scheduled for 15 August 2020. Here is the Parks Victoria
>> event information:
>>
>>
>> https://www.parkconnect.vic.gov.au/Volunteer/public-planned-activity/?id=c38ff798-914c-ea11-b698-0003ff6f5db4
>>
>> If you want to attend and plant trees, great! You need to register as a
>> volunteer with Parks Victoria using the ‘Register with ParkConnect’ button
>> on the link above.
>>
>> We hope to run some free, volunteer-run mapping events on/around the day.
>> Full details TBA, some ideas are:
>> - conduct a pre-planting aerial survey (subject to Parks Victoria
>> approval)
>> - collect locations of all the trees (potentially also running a hands on
>> QField / Input workshop)
>> - add trees to OSM (along with any other salient features that are
>> missing)
>>
>> Ideally everyone attending will also help plant trees - so please
>> register with ParkConnect if you plan to attend in any capacity.
>>
>> Again, thanks to this community and especially the FOSS4G SotM Oceania
>> organising committee for their moral and financial support. I'd like to
>> specifically thank Tony Forster, who first suggested this project and has
>> done much of the on-ground logistics (getting support of Parks Victoria and
>> linking us up with local organisations / suppliers); and Mick van de Vreede
>> of Parks Victoria, who has help line a lot of stuff up to help this happen.
>>
>> Please feel free to ask any questions by responding to list posts, or
>> contact me directly.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
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[OSGeo Oceania] FOSS4G SotM Oceania 2019 tree planting day

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Hi all

I'm excited to report that the FOSS4G SotM Oceania 2019 tree planting
program has been scheduled for 15 August 2020. Here is the Parks Victoria
event information:

https://www.parkconnect.vic.gov.au/Volunteer/public-planned-activity/?id=c38ff798-914c-ea11-b698-0003ff6f5db4

If you want to attend and plant trees, great! You need to register as a
volunteer with Parks Victoria using the ‘Register with ParkConnect’ button
on the link above.

We hope to run some free, volunteer-run mapping events on/around the day.
Full details TBA, some ideas are:
- conduct a pre-planting aerial survey (subject to Parks Victoria approval)
- collect locations of all the trees (potentially also running a hands on
QField / Input workshop)
- add trees to OSM (along with any other salient features that are missing)

Ideally everyone attending will also help plant trees - so please register
with ParkConnect if you plan to attend in any capacity.

Again, thanks to this community and especially the FOSS4G SotM Oceania
organising committee for their moral and financial support. I'd like to
specifically thank Tony Forster, who first suggested this project and has
done much of the on-ground logistics (getting support of Parks Victoria and
linking us up with local organisations / suppliers); and Mick van de Vreede
of Parks Victoria, who has help line a lot of stuff up to help this happen.

Please feel free to ask any questions by responding to list posts, or
contact me directly.

Regards,

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Re: [OSGeo Oceania] 2020 board directors: 1 & 2 year terms

[adam steer]

Hi all

If thats OK by Daniel it’s OK by me.

Regards, and thanks John

Adam

On Thu, 9 Jan 2020 at 14:13, John Bryant  wrote:

> Yep that's what it means...
>
> On Thu, 9 Jan 2020 at 14:09, Martin Tomko  wrote:
>
>> I trust you – same question as Alex, though ☺
>>
>> M.
>>
>>
>>
>> *From: *Oceania  on behalf of Alex
>> Leith 
>> *Date: *Thursday, 9 January 2020 at 2:01 pm
>> *To: *John Bryant 
>> *Cc: *"Oceania@lists.osgeo.org" 
>> *Subject: *Re: [OSGeo Oceania] 2020 board directors: 1 & 2 year terms
>>
>>
>>
>> I trust you. So that means Daniel is up for 2 years?
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, 9 Jan 2020 at 13:54, John Bryant  wrote:
>>
>> My bad, I forgot to put it on the meeting agenda and thus we forgot to do
>> this. We have 6 volunteers for a 1 year term and need to balance it out, so
>> we draw straws.
>>
>>
>>
>> I just drew straws <https://www.dsrw.org/~dlg/web/straws.php?eijzignwdf>,
>> and Daniel drew the "short straw". The obvious problem with this is that
>> nobody can verify this wasn't after 5 attempts at getting the result I
>> wanted, it would have worked much better if I had remembered to do this
>> during the meeting.
>>
>>
>>
>> Alternatives? Or take my word for it?
>>
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Re: [OSGeo Oceania] Oceania Digest, Vol 12, Issue 1

[adam steer]

Hi Eterna

This list is for communication about the open source geospatial community
in Oceania. Some of us enjoy unexplored terrain, but that's not the focus.

You can unsubscribe at the bottom of this page:


https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/oceania

...and we'll see if we can add a more convenient unsubscribe link in future.

Regards,

Adam

On Mon, 6 Jan 2020, 11:05 pm Eterna Pesadilla, 
wrote:

> Wasn't this magazine supposed to be about exploring? Caves? And unexplored
> terrain on the planet?
>
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>> Hi OSGeo Oceania board,
>>
>> Our Constitution says:
>>
>> *In order to implement staggered terms [...] half of the newly-elected
>> > Directors will be appointed to a half term of one year. These Directors
>> > will volunteer or be chosen by random selection.*
>> >
>>
>> The purpose of this is to make sure that in future, annual board elections
>> will only be for half the positions, to make sure there's continuity
>> across
>> years.
>>
>> By way of a process, I propose this:
>>
>>1. Directors volunteer for 1 year terms (with 2 years being the
>> default).
>>2. If needed to re-balance, we draw straws
>><https://www.dsrw.org/~dlg/web/straws.php> to ensure we have half for
>>each of 1 & 2 year terms. Since we have 9 directors this will be 4/5 or
>>5/4. We can draw straws at our board meeting this coming Thursday.
>>
>> For example:
>>
>>- 2 directors volunteer for a 1 year term: draw 2 straws from the
>>remaining 7 directors, and the short straws take a 1 year term -> 5 @ 2
>>years, 4 @ 1 year
>>- 6 directors volunteer for a 1 year term: draw 1 straw from those 6
>>directors, and the short straw takes a 2 year term -> 4 @ 2 years, 5 @
>> 1
>>year
>>
>> Sound fair?
>>
>> I'm happy to volunteer for a 1 year term.
>>
>> Cheers
>> John
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>> Date: Mon, 6 Jan 2020 12:58:24 +1100
>> From: adam steer 
>> To: John Bryant 
>> Cc: Oceania@lists.osgeo.org
>> Subject: Re: [OSGeo Oceania] 2020 board directors: 1 & 2 year terms
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>> Hey all
>>
>> I am also happy to volunteer for one year.
>>
>> +1 for John's process.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>>
>> On Mon, 6 Jan 2020, 12:02 pm John Bryant,  wrote:
>>
>> > Hi OSGeo Oceania board,
>> >
>> > Our Constitution says:
>> >
>> > *In order to implement staggered terms [...] half of the newly-elected
>> >> Directors will be appointed to a half term of one year. These Directors
>> >> will volunteer or be chosen by random selection.*
>> >>
>> >
>> > The purpose of this is to make sure that in future, annual board
>> elections
>> > will only be for half the positions, to make sure

Re: [OSGeo Oceania] 2020 board directors: 1 & 2 year terms

[adam steer]

Hey all

I am also happy to volunteer for one year.

+1 for John's process.

Cheers,


On Mon, 6 Jan 2020, 12:02 pm John Bryant,  wrote:

> Hi OSGeo Oceania board,
>
> Our Constitution says:
>
> *In order to implement staggered terms [...] half of the newly-elected
>> Directors will be appointed to a half term of one year. These Directors
>> will volunteer or be chosen by random selection.*
>>
>
> The purpose of this is to make sure that in future, annual board elections
> will only be for half the positions, to make sure there's continuity across
> years.
>
> By way of a process, I propose this:
>
>1. Directors volunteer for 1 year terms (with 2 years being the
>default).
>2. If needed to re-balance, we draw straws
> to ensure we have half for
>each of 1 & 2 year terms. Since we have 9 directors this will be 4/5 or
>5/4. We can draw straws at our board meeting this coming Thursday.
>
> For example:
>
>- 2 directors volunteer for a 1 year term: draw 2 straws from the
>remaining 7 directors, and the short straws take a 1 year term -> 5 @ 2
>years, 4 @ 1 year
>- 6 directors volunteer for a 1 year term: draw 1 straw from those 6
>directors, and the short straw takes a 2 year term -> 4 @ 2 years, 5 @ 1
>year
>
> Sound fair?
>
> I'm happy to volunteer for a 1 year term.
>
> Cheers
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[OSGeo Oceania] OSGeo board nomination

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Hi everyone

After a whirlwind last minute chat between John Bryant and myself (do you
want an OSGeo board nomination? maybe - you? kinda? OK.. there’s nobody
from Oceania there let's do it), I’m privileged to announce my nomination
for election to the OSGeo board.

My manifesto is here:
https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Election_2019_Candidate_Manifestos#9._Adam_Steer.2C_Australia_.28OSGeo_profile.29

This will see a few nips and tucks today most likely, and be set in stone
by bedtime (before 24:00 UTC+11, Monday 18 November)

Please feel free to ask me anything. I appreciate that I’m pretty new to
this community, and I’m also keenly aware that I’ve been pretty quiet in
other OSGeo committeeships - which I would give up if elected, aiming to
focus on just one thing at a time.

Finally, I see an excellent field of co-nominees to vote for - all the best
in decision making, there’s a tough choice ahead.

Regards,

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[OSGeo Oceania] Fwd: [OSGeo-Discuss] [Charter-members] OSGeo 2019 Board of Directors elections: call for nominations

[adam steer]

FYI - for the growing cohort of Oceanian charter members.

-- Forwarded message -
From: María Arias de Reyna 
Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2019 at 21:45
Subject: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] [Charter-members] OSGeo 2019 Board of
Directors elections: call for nominations
To: CRO 
Cc: OSGeo Discussions , OSGeo Charter members <
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Dear OSGeo peers,

Nomination period is coming to a close. Did you nominate your
favourite member to be on the Board? Don't lose this opportunity to
choose who represents you!

On Tue, Nov 5, 2019 at 10:53 PM Jorge Gustavo Rocha 
wrote:
>
> Dear OSGeo members,
>
> The 2019 elections are not over. Right after the charter member
> elections, we have the OSGeo Board elections.
>
> The nomination period for new Members of the Board of Directors is now
> open and goes until 2019-11-16. Only Charter Members are eligible for a
> seat on the Board and voting, but that anybody can nominate a board
member.
>
> María Arias de Reyna, Astrid Emde, Jody Garnett, Jeff McKenna and Helena
> Mitasova have reached the end of their 2-year term. So we have 5 vacant
> seats on the Board.
>
> Briefly, to nominate new Board members, you should:
> 1) Please confirm with the person that they would like to stand for
> election as a Board member.
> 2) Email you nomination to c...@osgeo.org, using the following template:
> Nominating person: 
> Nominating e-mail: 
> Nominating profile page: 
> Nominee full name: 
> Nominee e-mail: 
> Nominee profile page: 
> Nomination statement:  this person as member of the Board of Directors>
>
> The updated calendar for the Board of Directors election is:
>
> * Nomination period: 2019-11-05 to 2019-11-16 (almost 2 weeks)
> * Campaign period: 2019-11-17 to 2019-11-22 (almost 1 week)
> * Vote for new Board members: 2019-11-23 to 2019-11-30 (1 week)
> * The results will be announced on 2019-12-01.
>
> All the information about the elections is available in the wiki [1].
> You can see the progress of the nominations on [2].
>
> Looking forward for your nominations!
>
> Warm regards,
> Jorge Gustavo Rocha and Anne Ghisla
> (your 2019 OSGeo Elections CROs)[3]
>
> [1] https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Election_2019
> [2] https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Board_Member_Nominations_2019
> [3] https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Chief_Returning_Officer
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[OSGeo Oceania] Australian Space Agency grants

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Hi folks

The Australian Space Agency has announced a round of grants for capability
development around collaboration with international space agencies:

https://www.business.gov.au/assistance/international-space-investment-expand-capability-grants

I think there’s a lot of opportunity for the OSGeo audience there,
particularly around developing open remote sensing tools and workflows.

I plan to lead a proposal (with some long term collaborators); and would
also be happy to:

- create new collaborative projects (I may also use this list to find
capabilities I need within this community)
- discuss ideas outside of my own sphere of expertise (in confidence)
- donate some time to reviewing proposals (also in confidence, and maybe
quid pro quo - getting someone else to read over mine)

There’s a good chunk of money up for grabs, easily enough to bootstrap a
new venture / get something really awesome done - and help raise the
profile of our lean, awesome, open community :)

Regards, and good luck if you go for it!! I hope my own ideas have very
stiff competition...

Adam

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Re: [OSGeo Oceania] membership - elections - AGM

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Hi Kerry

Like John I see it as just another avenue.. it's there if needed, and some
people do need to be invited.

Regards,

Adam

On Fri, 11 Oct 2019, 15:31 John Bryant,  wrote:

> OK, point taken. I don't see any harm in having the option for people to
> nominate others they see contributing, some people people may be modest and
> not nominate themselves. I am working on a list of people I will nominate
> once we kick off a membership drive. In any case, I think it would have
> been better to make this point earlier.
>
> I would like to let the motion stand, and let the board vote on it... but
> if anyone sees these new comments as a reason to cancel the motion and have
> further discussion, please chime in.
>
> Thanks
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Re: [OSGeo Oceania] membership - elections - AGM

[adam steer]

Hi John, Kerry

this model of ‘anyone can sign up’ also fits the broader OSMF and OSGeo
models. In OSMF you just pay, in OSGeo you go to a website and create
yourself an account.

Thanks everyone for their hard work on this document, I think it is a
wonderful result from a series of well considered compromises and
thoughtful, experience-based input.

Regards

On Fri, 11 Oct 2019 at 10:21, John Bryant  wrote:

> From Kerry:
>
>> *COMMENT: If anyone can nominate new members - can you self-nominate?  In
>> which case isn't this an application for membership? Is the intention that
>> the nominator is already a member, because this is not specified.*
>>
>> *It does seem odd that anybody in the whole world can nominate another
>> person for membership.*
>>
>
> Thanks Kerry. This was intentionally introduced on 27 Sep when we
> attempted to resolve some disagreement by consolidating two membership
> tiers into a single tier. Since one key idea is to keep a low barrier to
> entry, while still maintaining some control over the membership process,
> this was changed from "*any member may nominate...*" to "*anybody can
> nominate...*" so that we're avoiding an "inner circle" situation.
>
> I don't think it's especially odd that anybody in the whole world can
> nominate (including self-nomination). If someone meets our eligibility
> criteria, and wishes to become a member, then we should welcome them as
> members regardless of who they know.
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Re: [OSGeo Oceania] membership - elections - AGM

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Thanks John, all good here. +1

On Wed, 9 Oct 2019 at 12:27, John Bryant  wrote:

> Thanks Adam, good points. Have responded in comments.
>
> On Tue, 8 Oct 2019 at 19:58, adam steer  wrote:
>
>> Thanks John, the document is looking good and shiny. Just a couple of
>> comments on the MWG workload and timing, no objections to anything.
>>
>> Well done!
>>
>> On Mon, 7 Oct 2019 at 18:21, John Bryant  wrote:
>>
>>> Hi again,
>>>
>>> The board has gone over the details, taken some professional advice, and
>>> prepared another draft of the membership policy. I hope at this point it
>>> reads well, clearly expresses intent, is workable, and is acceptable to the
>>> community.
>>>
>>> I'd like to put this forward for a few days of community review. Please
>>> respond with comments and questions, and I'll ask the board to help me in
>>> responding. Please bear in mind the considerable discussion that has
>>> already happened... the policy contains some compromise positions, I
>>> suggest we don't re-open those discussions as it may cause delay without
>>> any material benefit. Let's all stay positive and remember we're at the
>>> beginning and this can evolve over time...
>>>
>>> Draft is here [1]. I think we should aim to proceed with a motion to
>>> adopt around the end of the week.
>>>
>>> Cheers!
>>> John
>>>
>>> [1]
>>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/14_6Ru8Xy5jGIuWXysuIJQwQonmjhtlpmHbqVwtOsUNA
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, 27 Sep 2019 at 15:43, John Bryant  wrote:
>>>
>>>> Thanks all for compromising, good teamwork spirit. These long email
>>>> discussions can be fatiguing, so I appreciate your patience. I'll take all
>>>> this feedback and input, and pull together a next draft. Hopefully we're
>>>> just about there.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers
>>>> John
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Re: [OSGeo Oceania] membership - elections - AGM

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Thanks John, the document is looking good and shiny. Just a couple of
comments on the MWG workload and timing, no objections to anything.

Well done!

On Mon, 7 Oct 2019 at 18:21, John Bryant  wrote:

> Hi again,
>
> The board has gone over the details, taken some professional advice, and
> prepared another draft of the membership policy. I hope at this point it
> reads well, clearly expresses intent, is workable, and is acceptable to the
> community.
>
> I'd like to put this forward for a few days of community review. Please
> respond with comments and questions, and I'll ask the board to help me in
> responding. Please bear in mind the considerable discussion that has
> already happened... the policy contains some compromise positions, I
> suggest we don't re-open those discussions as it may cause delay without
> any material benefit. Let's all stay positive and remember we're at the
> beginning and this can evolve over time...
>
> Draft is here [1]. I think we should aim to proceed with a motion to adopt
> around the end of the week.
>
> Cheers!
> John
>
> [1]
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/14_6Ru8Xy5jGIuWXysuIJQwQonmjhtlpmHbqVwtOsUNA
>
>
> On Fri, 27 Sep 2019 at 15:43, John Bryant  wrote:
>
>> Thanks all for compromising, good teamwork spirit. These long email
>> discussions can be fatiguing, so I appreciate your patience. I'll take all
>> this feedback and input, and pull together a next draft. Hopefully we're
>> just about there.
>>
>> Cheers
>> John
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Re: [OSGeo Oceania] membership - elections - AGM

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Maybe we need to figure out what membership means.

Does it mean ' I as a member identify with this community'

' I as a member feel entitled to something from this organisation'

... something else?

On Mon, 23 Sep 2019, 18:30 John Bryant,  wrote:

> Thanks all for a quite robust discussion on this important topic, it's
> really great to see this much engagement. There seems to be a fair bit of
> discomfort with the two tier model proposed, and I agree that it may
> introduce more complexity than we really want. To move forward, I'd like to
> propose a simplified alternative:
>
>- We have a single type of membership that confers voting rights.
>- To ensure a reasonable level of engagement, while protecting the org
>against bad actors/hostile takeover/etc, we roughly follow this process:
>   - take nominations for new members
>   - use an eligibility threshold that balances accessibility with
>   genuine engagement
>   - include a ratification step that could be done by the board, or a
>   membership working group (TBD)
>
> This doesn't capture all the detail of how this would work, but if it's
> acceptable in broad strokes, I can update our draft policy and we can work
> through the details over next couple of days.
>
> Any objections?
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Re: [OSGeo Oceania] membership - elections - AGM

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Hi  John, all

Would this mean we nominate general members and then have another decision
round to decide on voting rights?

I'm not yet convinced that it's simpler than 'anyone can join themselves'
and 'voting members are nominated'..

Thanks,

Adam




On Mon, 23 Sep 2019, 18:30 John Bryant,  wrote:

> Thanks all for a quite robust discussion on this important topic, it's
> really great to see this much engagement. There seems to be a fair bit of
> discomfort with the two tier model proposed, and I agree that it may
> introduce more complexity than we really want. To move forward, I'd like to
> propose a simplified alternative:
>
>- We have a single type of membership that confers voting rights.
>- To ensure a reasonable level of engagement, while protecting the org
>against bad actors/hostile takeover/etc, we roughly follow this process:
>   - take nominations for new members
>   - use an eligibility threshold that balances accessibility with
>   genuine engagement
>   - include a ratification step that could be done by the board, or a
>   membership working group (TBD)
>
> This doesn't capture all the detail of how this would work, but if it's
> acceptable in broad strokes, I can update our draft policy and we can work
> through the details over next couple of days.
>
> Any objections?
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Re: [OSGeo Oceania] Fiji's - Letter of Intent - FOSS4G SotM Pasifika 2020

[adam steer]

Hi Vasiti, all

Thanks for this proposal, it is fantastic to see broad support and energy
in the region for open geospatial systems!

While I’m not in a decision making position on this, I have two questions
broadly:

1. how will this proposal address continuity / handover of experiences
between current conference committees and future ones? It’s worked well so
far to have a mix of old/new people on the committee, and reduces the risk
of an event being organised ‘in a bubble'. On a related tangent, it would
be fantastic to expose more ‘big islanders’ to how small islands in our
region do things in a logistics/political sense. I don’t see clearly how to
achieve that without growing the LoC excessively - perhaps local leads with
helpers from all over the place?

2. branding: pasifika/oceania? both terms are used to describe the event. I
can see where you’re coming from with joining efforts between an
existing Pacific Islands OSGeo chapter and the newly minted Oceania chapter
- to me it doesn’t matter which way the brand goes, just pick one :D

I wish this proposal all the best, and hope to see it come to life!

Regards,

Adam

On Tue, 10 Sep 2019 at 16:02, Alex Leith  wrote:

> This is a very exciting proposal, thank you Vasiti and others.
>
> On Tue, 10 Sep 2019 at 15:47, John Bryant  wrote:
>
>> Wonderful, thanks Vasiti & team! Looking forward to discussing further.
>> We'll be in touch after the closing date (16th).
>>
>> Cheers
>> John
>>
>> On Tue, 10 Sep 2019 at 07:37, Vasiti Soko  wrote:
>>
>>> Bula,
>>>
>>>>
>>>> On behalf of the committee members copied in this email, I hereby
>>>> submit Fiji's Letter of Intent to host FOSS4G SotM Pasifika in the year
>>>> 2020.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Our LOI can be found here:
>>>> https://gist.github.com/FidelChe/193e1d16e9ce28dadd731c471d637de0
>>>>
>>>> A copy of LOI is also attached.
>>>>
>>>> Please feel free to contact us should you require additional
>>>> information.
>>>>
>>>> Many thanks,
>>>> vasiti
>>>>
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Re: [OSGeo Oceania] membership - elections - AGM

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Hi all

Ed has pretty well summed up my thoughts. My preferred action would be
'vote in an election'.

We can do things like charter membership later...

And +1 to elections outside the AGM.

Thanks all,

Adam

On Mon., 9 Sep. 2019, 13:30 Jonah Sullivan, 
wrote:

> Thanks for taking the time to think about this Ed. I think being inclusive
> is a great idea, but I don't see much benefit of having a large but
> disengaged member pool.
>
> I haven't put any thought into charging membership dues, not sure if it
> would be worth the administrative hassle since the organisation is based
> around the conference.
>
> On Sun, 8 Sep. 2019, 13:54 Edoardo Neerhut,  wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> Thanks for moving the discussion forward on this important topic.
>>
>> *Membership criteria*
>> Regarding the membership base and how one qualifies, I broadly agree that
>> we need a system that encourages active participation. My only concern is
>> around the idea of "positive attributes". The term itself seems a bit
>> ambiguous and even the selection criteria outlined in the linked OSGeo wiki
>> seem a bit too vague for my liking. I think a system like this is
>> vulnerable to manipulation and not as merit based as we would like.
>>
>> OSMF is at the other end of the spectrum with a membership fee but no
>> responsibilities.
>>
>> As we are in the early days of our community, I think we would benefit
>> greatly from having a more open membership criteria, but with clear
>> obligations once a member, even if this was *simply voting each year*.
>> My worry that a more selective criteria with "positive attributes" might
>> discourage new people from joining and limit future leadership potential.
>>
>> *Timing of the election*
>> Similarly, I agree with John and Cameron that an AGM at the conference
>> followed by an election shortly would allow new people to step up and do so
>> after due consideration. The date of the election should be fixed well in
>> advance so that people consider it seriously at the AGM and conference and
>> initiate any discussions they may want to have regarding the
>> responsibilities of membership and directorship.
>>
>> Also:
>>
>>- As John mentioned, having the election during the conference
>>unfairly disadvantages those unable to attend.
>>- Elections can be both a positive and negative event depending on
>>how they play out. We should reduce the risk of any negative fallout by
>>separating the two events.
>>
>> I'll need to put more thought into the actual running of the election. It
>> might be useful to have someone from OSMF or OSGeo join one of our board
>> meetings and shed light on how they run theirs.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Ed
>>
>>
>> On Sun, 8 Sep 2019 at 06:40, John Bryant  wrote:
>>
>>> In the interest of moving this forward, perhaps we can focus on the
>>> membership question for now.
>>>
>>> So far we have a couple of suggestions on the table:
>>>
>>>1. a model somewhat based on OSGeo's charter membership, using
>>>participation and positive attributes as criteria for nomination
>>>2. free membership that requires an action each year to remain a
>>>member, even if it's clicking a link in an email or something trivial
>>>
>>> Option 1 has featured more heavily in this discussion, am I right to
>>> read that as having general support? Any arguments against? Any other
>>> proposals we should consider?
>>>
>>> If we have general support for option 1, let's start fleshing it out.
>>> I've started a Google doc [1] for collaborative editing, we can move this
>>> to the wiki when it's done. It's open for commenting, if you want to help
>>> edit, please ask for access.
>>>
>>> Board & community input please.
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>> John
>>>
>>> [1]
>>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/14_6Ru8Xy5jGIuWXysuIJQwQonmjhtlpmHbqVwtOsUNA
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Re: [OSGeo Oceania] membership - elections - AGM

[adam steer]

HI John

I also like the OSGeo process for charter members, and an ability to prune
members with a clear minimum participation level, as in anyone who did note
vote or return an apology is gone. Which might seem pretty harsh, but once
a year reading some summaries and ticking a box is pretty low bandwidth.

We need to resolve paid membership first - the constitution is ok with
either free or paid membership. I think the OSGeo system works in part
because it's free.

By contrast in OSMF, I just paid them money and I can vote. If I stop
paying, I can’t vote anymore - so it's a different model. And also ok.

I think the first (OSGeo) approach mitigates the risk of being overrun by
interest groups. If we want to mix that with paid membership, I think we
will have to get people to nominate themselves as members - so that would
end with money plus a ‘positive attributes’ qualifier being two bars to
cross.

I think we need one, or the other - we can’t do both. I prefer membership
remaining free (like OSGeo), with a clearer boundary around what the
conditions are (less clear in OSGeo, much more clear for OSMF).

As OSGeo Oceania grows, it’s probably necessary to adjust the constitution
to have a ’no veto’ approach to voting on board members and new members,
rather than quotas or numbers. I wonder if that’s possible?

Sorry, bit of an essay - trying to unpack tangled thoughts.

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Re: [OSGeo Oceania] Board - sharing budget doc

[adam steer]

Hi John, all

I agree with John’s point 1 - when we’re given commercial information from
others, we should ask before publishing.

The rest? While open-source-ness is not incompatible with IP, I don’t think
an organisational budget qualifies as protectable IP. It’ll be in a public
annual report anyway, right?

Like John, I’d need specific examples for points 3-5. I don’t see why we’d
lose a bargaining position - we can either pay for a thing, or not. If the
latter we can seek a different service provider or not do a thing. We don’t
have to do all the things for all the people all the time...

On obtaining funding, plenty of extremely cashed-up organisations continue
to obtain funding from various sources. If we need more money to do a
thing, I’m sure we can provide a strong enough case to win the funding we
need.

I think as much budgetary open-ness as possible is a good thing, and the
document shared by John is fine.

Regards,

Adam


On Wed, 21 Aug 2019 at 16:47, John Bryant  wrote:

> I'm seeing a lot of support for publishing the budget, based on the
> benefit to the community and potential future organisers of this and other
> events. But also a few arguments against, which we need to consider, I'll
> try to summarise here.
>
>1. We shouldn't put others' intellectual property and commercially
>sensitive material into the public domain
>2. The budget is our own IP, which we should retain
>3. We may give too much info to caterers and other suppliers, and lose
>our bargaining position with regard to pricing
>4. We may give too much info to PCOs, and lose our bargaining position
>with regard to pricing
>5. We may put ourselves at a disadvantage when it comes to seeking
>funding, by sharing too much
>
> Re: point 1, I strongly agree and the proposed public document has been
> redacted to take this into account. If there's still anything specific in
> there that needs a change, let's do it.
>
> Re: point 2, I generally disagree, I don't see it as compatible with our
> position as an org responsible to an open community. I don't see a value
> proposition in classifying this specific information as protected. But
> would be interested to hear others' views on this.
>
> Re: point 3, For the most part, our service providers (caterers, A/V,
> equipment rental, etc) are competing in a local market against other
> similar providers, and would be unlikely to be able to use this information
> to their benefit. They often have set pricing schedules, and probably don't
> have time or inclination to find our public budget document and play us
> accordingly. By getting quotes from several providers in each case, we can
> make sure we're getting competitive pricing.
>
> Re: point 4, I don't have much experience with PCOs, I'm having trouble
> understanding how the information in this budget doc would disadvantage us
> in that relationship. Why would knowing how much we spent on catering in
> 2018 impact on this?
>
> Re: point 5, again, I am having trouble seeing this. Is there an example
> situation where the specific information in this budget would put us at a
> competitive disadvantage in a funding proposal?
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Re: [OSGeo Oceania] Funding for organisation development

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+1 John, and echoing Ed - I think we should ask for as much advice and
support as possible.

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Re: [OSGeo Oceania] [FOSS4G-Oceania] Considering future Open Geospatial conferences in Oceania

[adam steer]

hey community

I want to temper this a little with Bruce Bannerman’s recent and very
relevant comments on where OSGeo Oceania and FOSS4G SotM Oceania are at.
The main question being:

‘how many things can we do at once?’

In my mind, a laser focus on bedding in OSGeo Oceania and sorting out all
the wrinkles with respect to OSGeo and OSM chapterhood / board processes /
who the org represents / how to represent people who don’t feel immediately
bonded to the idea is the first community priority.

Yes, since 2017 we’ve had remarkable success and we should aim to keep that
momentum. To use an analogy, I feel this revitalised fast-growing tree of
OSGeo Oceania needs a broader base and deeper roots right now.

We need to establish and broaden our regional connections and volunteer
base.

With that in mind, it’s definitely time to start thinking about a 2020
regional event. I’m sure the OSGeo Oceania board will be looking for
proposals soon!

Those are my thoughts - I hope they’re taken as virtual organic mulch and
well composted manure for the future of OSGeo Oceania, and not cold water….

Regards,

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Re: [OSGeo Oceania] Forming a regional chapter of OSGeo

[adam steer]

+1, thanks


On Thu., 16 May 2019, 20:16 John Bryant,  wrote:

> Hi all, a quick request for feedback from the community...
>
> As you are probably aware, we are forming a new entity (OSGeo Oceania),
> and intend to approach OSGeo to formalise a regional chapter. To my
> understanding, this chapter would supersede the Aust-NZ chapter, so I'd see
> us doing a bit of work on the new Oceania wiki page
>  and either shutting down or
> modifying the older Aust-NZ wiki page
>  to clarify this.
>
> Is everyone happy for us to form this chapter on behalf of the Oceania
> open geospatial community? With your support, we will do so in a couple of
> weeks' time.
>
> We've got a few other action items listed in this doc
> .
> If you have any suggestions or feedback, please let us know!
>
> Cheers
> John
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Re: [OSGeo Oceania] Geowebcache tile naming scheme

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Hey Alex,

I found that - but there’s nothing on ‘what is x’ and ‘what is y’. For
example if I start y and y at bottom left (of a +-180 degree lon, +-90 lat
grid), the x and y given in the tile names is noplace near where that tile
exists in lat and lon (the grid schema says top left == false, so bottom
left should be x=0, y=0 in the grid, right?)

I have my reasons for needing to unpack this stuff :D

Cheers

On Wed, 24 Apr 2019 at 10:24, Alex Leith  wrote:

> Hey Adam
>
> Here's a discussion on the file naming for GWC:
> https://sourceforge.net/p/geowebcache/mailman/geowebcache-users/thread/28819540.post%40talk.nabble.com/#msg25474083
>
> Looks like the plan was `
> layername/projection_z/[x/(2^(z/2))]_[y/(2^(z/2))]/x_y.extension`
>
> But then it changed along the lines of: "the bit shifting starts with 2,
> effectively making it `2^( 1 + ( z / 2 ))` And there's some zero-padding."
>
> Personally, I think re-implementing the cache creation process in Python
> will be rather tedious and there will be a lot of mess between generating
> the data and having it 'just work' in GeoServer.
>
> I'll ping you on Slack ;-)
>
> Cheers,
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, 24 Apr 2019 at 10:08, adam steer  wrote:
>
>> Hi Oceanians
>>
>> is anyone out there extremely familiar with geowebcache’s tile naming
>> schemes - for example given a grid schema what are the decisions behind how
>> map tiles are named?
>>
>> Essentially given a grid schema declaration and a bunch of imagery I need
>> to replicate what GWC does in Python. …and unfortunately gdal2tiles / the
>> OSM tile naming code doesn't use the same tile naming / indexing schema (it
>> needs to match exactly an existing tiling schema - which is custom, and I
>> haven’t managed to decrypt yet).
>>
>> What I’m missing is a likely small but very critical piece of logic which
>> will let me map from geographic bounds to tile index locations, for example
>> from:
>>
>> input_tiff(minx miny maxx maxy) -> /zoomlevel//_.png
>>
>> …for output tiles in EPSG4326 (plate carree), indexed to lower left
>> corner.
>>
>> I’ve been digging into Geowebcache code, but Java does my head in and the
>> wormholes get too deep in there. I can’t find any documentation which
>> really explains well how this mapping is done.
>>
>> I have a small budget for an hour of your time; alternately feel free to
>> respond in public and I will buy you beer/dinner/give good mojo to FOSS4G
>> SotM Oceania.
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> Adam
>>
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[OSGeo Oceania] Geowebcache tile naming scheme

[adam steer]

Hi Oceanians

is anyone out there extremely familiar with geowebcache’s tile naming
schemes - for example given a grid schema what are the decisions behind how
map tiles are named?

Essentially given a grid schema declaration and a bunch of imagery I need
to replicate what GWC does in Python. …and unfortunately gdal2tiles / the
OSM tile naming code doesn't use the same tile naming / indexing schema (it
needs to match exactly an existing tiling schema - which is custom, and I
haven’t managed to decrypt yet).

What I’m missing is a likely small but very critical piece of logic which
will let me map from geographic bounds to tile index locations, for example
from:

input_tiff(minx miny maxx maxy) -> /zoomlevel//_.png

…for output tiles in EPSG4326 (plate carree), indexed to lower left corner.

I’ve been digging into Geowebcache code, but Java does my head in and the
wormholes get too deep in there. I can’t find any documentation which
really explains well how this mapping is done.

I have a small budget for an hour of your time; alternately feel free to
respond in public and I will buy you beer/dinner/give good mojo to FOSS4G
SotM Oceania.

Thanks!

Adam

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Re: [OSGeo Oceania] FOSS4G SotM Oceania 2019 - programme outline

[adam steer]

Hi John

thanks for your input, and gentle reminder to explain some thinking:

yes, we’re optimistic that we’ll get a lot of great talk proposals!

There’s a bit of to and fro about more/shorter talks, and fewer/longer
talks. Do we prefer 60 short sharp (15+5) talks or 48 (20+)5 talks?  A lot
of people preferred the shorter format; and we are also looking at ways to
get more people in the spotlight - offering more space to do so is one way
(maybe).

Pretty much a constant in conferences is that there will be be
interruptions as people move between talks; and there’s no avoiding it.
Perhaps we can add some gentle reminders to consider your speakers and
fellow attendees when session hopping at the opening plenary.

On start times - we can’t open the doors to members of the public til 8:30
for a 9:00 start at the moment. However, we also cannot attempt to register
a whole lot of people in 30 minutes on day 1, so the conference start time
was pushed back to allow an hour to get people all registered. On day 2,
the timing is the same because I know I’ll get mixed up if the session
times change.

If we want 30 minute breaks, we need to take time from somewhere - about
the only way I can see is to shorten stream sessions, I’ve added another
sheet which shows 90 minute sessions and half hour breaks.

I don’t see yet how to get things finishing earlier… suggestions welcome,
and we may yet get to open up earlier...

Cheers

Adam



On Sat, 20 Apr 2019 at 05:12, John Bryant  wrote:

> Thanks Adam & program committee, looking great!
>
> The adjustment to having more talks is interesting, I suppose there may be
> a bit of a challenge to fill 60 speaking slots out of an audience of 170,
> but hey, challenges are good! And personally, I'm hopeful we exceed the 170
> target, though it will raise some logistical challenges re: venue.
>
> One of the key messages we got in attendee feedback last year was that
> timing was important, we could have done a bit better, and people found
> movement between sessions frustrating. There were also quite a few requests
> for longer talks, and more time between sessions. The venue layout this
> year might help improve the movement between sessions. But sticking with
> the 15+5 format, we'll need to be really strict on timing to improve on one
> of the key frustrations from last year's event.
>
> On timing:
> - Is a 930am start intentional? Feels a bit late to me, but I acknowledge
> that some people prefer a late start. But will people's attention start
> lagging for the talks late in the day, ie. finishing at 5:40 pm?
> - Are 20 minute breaks between sessions long enough? For some people,
> these are important slots for networking. This is shorter than last year's
> 30 minute breaks.
>
> Cheers
> John
>
>
>
> On Thu, 18 Apr 2019 at 03:29, adam steer  wrote:
>
>> Hi all
>>
>> We’d like to share with you our current thinking about the 2019
>> programme, and call for comments.
>>
>> We need to put it all together and run calls for papers and workshops by
>> the end of May - so please spark any debates early! We will close
>>  discussion and move toward a fixed plan at the end of April. Let's say 1
>> May is ‘close the discussion’ date.
>>
>> As a rundown we have:
>>
>> - 2 x 3.5 hour workshop sessions (8 rooms, 16 workshops possible in total)
>> - 60 15-20 minute stream talks (4 sessions, 3 streams, 5 talks each
>> session)
>> - 4 keynotes
>> - a mystery hour on day 2, after the initial keynote. this might be a
>> panel, a very short unconference, a ’state of [QGIS/OSM/… ]’ plenary talk
>> session, or a facilitated community discussion on what we see as prevalent
>> issues in the community. We’d like to know what you think, but also reserve
>> the right to surprise (and we hope, delight) you
>> - a community day, which will be a mix of OSGeo code sprint, mapathons,
>> and other OSGeo / OSM related activities.
>> - various opportunities for breakfasts and informal socialising, as well
>> as an organised conference icebreaker and dinner.
>>
>> These are laid out here:
>> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/17KvFcVn226ay0clCZsBTL0jpbX-4ZMt6nyBfLcF94mE/edit?usp=sharing
>>
>> There is a bit of variation from the 2018 formula. We’ve tried to add
>> more session talks; and hope to find a good provocative keynote to end with
>> (in fact we hope to find four excellent and thought provoking / challenging
>> keynotes)
>>
>> Please feel free to comment on the document, respond to the list, or
>> myself, with ideas.
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Adam
>>
>>
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[OSGeo Oceania] FOSS4G SotM Oceania 2019 - programme outline

[adam steer]

Hi all

We’d like to share with you our current thinking about the 2019 programme,
and call for comments.

We need to put it all together and run calls for papers and workshops by
the end of May - so please spark any debates early! We will close
 discussion and move toward a fixed plan at the end of April. Let's say 1
May is ‘close the discussion’ date.

As a rundown we have:

- 2 x 3.5 hour workshop sessions (8 rooms, 16 workshops possible in total)
- 60 15-20 minute stream talks (4 sessions, 3 streams, 5 talks each session)
- 4 keynotes
- a mystery hour on day 2, after the initial keynote. this might be a
panel, a very short unconference, a ’state of [QGIS/OSM/… ]’ plenary talk
session, or a facilitated community discussion on what we see as prevalent
issues in the community. We’d like to know what you think, but also reserve
the right to surprise (and we hope, delight) you
- a community day, which will be a mix of OSGeo code sprint, mapathons, and
other OSGeo / OSM related activities.
- various opportunities for breakfasts and informal socialising, as well as
an organised conference icebreaker and dinner.

These are laid out here:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/17KvFcVn226ay0clCZsBTL0jpbX-4ZMt6nyBfLcF94mE/edit?usp=sharing

There is a bit of variation from the 2018 formula. We’ve tried to add more
session talks; and hope to find a good provocative keynote to end with (in
fact we hope to find four excellent and thought provoking / challenging
keynotes)

Please feel free to comment on the document, respond to the list, or
myself, with ideas.

Regards

Adam


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[OSGeo Oceania] Keynote suggestions

[adam steer]

Hi all

Who would you like to hear from as keynotes at FOSS4G SotM Oceania 2019?
The programme committee have some ideas, but we can only see so far and
potentially miss people who really should be considered.

We’ve got rough ’topic groups’ in mind:

OSGeo / OSM / research + academia / Open data

…and we’d love to hear about both local-to-oceania and international people.

Please nominate people off-list (reply to adam.d.st...@gmail.com), and I’ll
collate with the organising committee. If you can think quick and come up
with ideas by 25 April that would be fantastic.

We’d like to then huddle, discuss, muse, ponder, and surprise you!

Thanks,

Adam and the FOSS4G SotM Oceania 2019 programme team

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Re: [OSGeo Oceania] MailChimp Mailing List Merging

[adam steer]

I vote for option 2.

Why?

- option 1 feels a lot like potential spam - we didn’t ask for consent to
put attendees on an ongoing comms e-mail list. The opt-out makes it legally
OK (as far as I can tell, see link below), but not really up to scratch on
my personal ethics-o-meter.
- preferring smaller lists of people who actively opt in to larger lists of
potential zombie addresses.

Our obligations are here, FYI:
https://www.acma.gov.au/theACMA/spam-industry-obligations

Cheers

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> Hi All
>
> We have two large lists of people on in MailChimp.
>
> The first is the general list, where people have signed up and this has
> 200 subscribers and the second is the conference attendees list, which has
> 300 subscribers.
>
> We have two options to merge these lists:
>
>1. Merge the two lists, then send an email to the new list offering
>people the opportunity to opt out
>2. Don't merge the lists, but send an email to the conference
>attendees list offering the opportunity to opt in to the main list.
>
> My view is that we should merge the lists, and allow people to opt out, as
> this will leave us with a larger contact list, most likely. So my vote is
> for option 1.
>
> Look forward to your thoughts.
>
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[OSGeo Oceania] OSGeo/OSM talk accepted at C3DIS

[adam steer]

hey folks

I pitched a talk about the growing OSGeo Oceania community at the C3DIS
conference (http://www.c3dis.com) and it was accepted as an oral
presentation.

Why? C3DIS is all about computational and data intensive science - and much
of that relies on the geospatial tools and data this community builds and
maintains. So it’s a bit of a PR / community building exercise; and timing
is a couple weeks ahead of the scheduled call for 2019 FOSS4G SotM Oceania
papers. it’s also introducing our new organisation - so some timing is a
bit ambitious.

Title and abstract below, I’ll build a revealJS-based talk here:
https://github.com/adamsteer/c3dis2019 - so please feel free to dump
relevant thoughts as issues; and help shape the conversation we want to
have with the ‘big science computers’ community.

Cheers

Adam

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Title: The open geospatial community in Oceania

Abstract:
The Open Geospatial Foundation (OSgeo) and the Open Streetmap Foundation
(OSMF) have been mainstays in support of; and advocacy for; open geospatial
software and data for many years.

OSGeo supports foundational geospatial tooling used across the eResearch
community - from invisible infrastructure (GDAL; Proj4; pyWPS; Zoo-WPS ) to
prominent user-focussed, user facing applications (QGIS, geonode,
geoserver, geonetwork, leafletJS; openlayers) - to name just a few.

In 2009, an international conference of the OSGeo foundation was held in
Sydney; and after a long hiatus, the community was revived in 2018. The
result was a sold-out joint conference of the OSGeo and OSMF communities
for the Oceania region in Melbourne. This was both an incredible show of
community support, and an incredible showcase of open source innovation in
the region.

…and the momentum continues. By the time C3DIS happens, there will be a
fully-fledged local OSGeo Oceania organisation, aimed at supporting a
regional community of open source geo-developers, geo-users, and
geo-enablers - and 2019 conference organisation will be in full swing.

This talk will be about charting the journey of OSGeo Oceania so far, and
how the eResearch community in Australia and Oceania can engage with,
support, and benefit from this local and global community.

Come and join the party!


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Re: [OSGeo Oceania] request from OpenStreetMap.org

[adam steer]

Hi Ross, All

I’ve put OSM and AARnet in touch with each other, I hope they talk and
report back :D

Cheers

Adam

On Tue, 26 Feb 2019 at 11:32, Ross Johnson  wrote:

> FYI:
>
> Can you help make OpenStreetMap.org faster in Brazil, or Australia/New
> Zealand?
> *CDN* <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Content_delivery_network>* of **tile
> delivery caching servers*
> <http://dns.openstreetmap.org/tile.openstreetmap.org.html>*.*
>
> A big use of the OpenStreetMap data is the web map on OpenStreetMap.org.
> Along with our hard working team of volunteer sysadmins who keep it going,
> we are helped by many donated tile cache servers around the world, which
> speed up the map in various regions.
> We are always open to more servers, but the Operations Working Group is
> currently looking for servers in Brazil, and Australia/New Zealand. If you
> or your organisation would like to donate a cache server and hosting, we’re
> ideally looking for a physical server or powerful VM with 8GB+ RAM and at
> least 146GB of storage. Read more details.
> <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Servers/Tile_CDN>
>
> Please email operati...@osmfoundation.org if you are interested.
>
> Our peak Brazil traffic is currently around 65 Mbps. Our peak Australian
> and New Zealand traffic is currently around 20 Mbps. See the full country
> breakdown in bits per second.
> <https://git.openstreetmap.org/dns.git/blob/HEAD:/bandwidth/tile.openstreetmap.yml>
>
> Some more information:
>
>- Brazil has the 10th highest traffic and is the largest country
>without a cache in it or nearby.
>- Worldwide peak traffic is 2300 Mbps.
>- Antarctica and Australia are the two continents we do not have
>caches on.
>
> We fully manage the software and operating system. All config is managed
> via our chef recipes <https://github.com/openstreetmap/chef>. We also run
> a local firewall on each server. If physical hardware, we monitor using it
> SMART, hp-health, etc and report any hardware issues back to the hosting
> organisation.
>
> Will you help us and join the people and organisations that support
> OpenStreetMap? Thank you <https://hardware.openstreetmap.org/thanks/>!
>
> *The OpenStreetMap Foundation is a not-for-profit organisation, formed in
> the UK to support the OpenStreetMap Project. It is dedicated to encouraging
> the growth, development and distribution of free geospatial data for anyone
> to use and share. The OpenStreetMap Foundation owns and maintains the
> infrastructure of the OpenStreetMap project. Volunteers, like the
> indefatigable team of server administrators, keep all of this hardware
> working. *
>
> *OpenStreetMap tiles are free for everyone to use, but should be used
> with moderation <https://operations.osmfoundation.org/policies/tiles/>. If
> you are a high traffic site you should look at switch2osm.org
> <https://switch2osm.org/> to find out how to use the data and keep the
> tiles available for everyone. *
>
> *If you can’t donate server hosting, you can always make a financial
> donation to the OSMF <https://donate.openstreetmap.org/>.*
>
>
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