RE: [Ogf-l] d20 bubble burst and other repercussions

2005-02-19 Thread GRIM
I think there's still room for the small products, PDFs etc seem to
still be pretty strong, on their own scale, and for the very big d20
products.

Time's ripe for some more independent systems etc though, if they can do
something new and exciting.

Just a boom and bust cycle, like with Magic cards :)

GRIM
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Anyone want to comment about the latest string of news? AEG publishing
the
last Rokugan d20 product and losing the Stargate license? Wizards of the
Coast pushing Star Wars miniatures as we possibly approach one year
without
Star Wars mini-free RPG product?

d20 Future?


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Re: [Ogf-l] d20 bubble burst and other repercussions

2005-02-19 Thread jamesbell
Doesn't the loss of the Stargate license have less to do with the current state
of the d20 market and more to do with the acquisition of MGM by Sony?

Any word on a possible Star Wars sourcebook when Episode III hits?

- James


Quoting Reginald Cablayan [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 
 Anyone want to comment about the latest string of news? AEG publishing the
 last Rokugan d20 product and losing the Stargate license? Wizards of the
 Coast pushing Star Wars miniatures as we possibly approach one year without
 Star Wars mini-free RPG product?
 
 d20 Future?
 
 
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RE: [Ogf-l] d20 bubble burst and other repercussions

2005-02-19 Thread Steven Trustrum
Personally, I doubt that either MGM or Sony has been keeping track of what
goes on in the d20 market enough for that to have had anything to do with
the change. More likely than not, it came down to Eden being able to provide
more money upfront than AEG considering licensing agreements don't have
anything to do with actual sales. All of d20 could be tanking for all MGM
and Sony cared, so long as the licensing fee was what they wanted.

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Steven Trustrum
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Misfit Studios
 
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Doesn't the loss of the Stargate license have less to do with the current
state
of the d20 market and more to do with the acquisition of MGM by Sony?

Any word on a possible Star Wars sourcebook when Episode III hits?

- James


Quoting Reginald Cablayan [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 
 Anyone want to comment about the latest string of news? AEG publishing the
 last Rokugan d20 product and losing the Stargate license? Wizards of the
 Coast pushing Star Wars miniatures as we possibly approach one year
without
 Star Wars mini-free RPG product?
 
 d20 Future?
 
 
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Re: [Ogf-l] d20 bubble burst and other repercussions

2005-02-19 Thread Tim Dugger
On 19 Feb 2005 at 14:31, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Doesn't the loss of the Stargate license have less to do with the
 current state of the d20 market and more to do with the acquisition of
 MGM by Sony?
 
 Any word on a possible Star Wars sourcebook when Episode III hits?

George V. from Eden has posted online that the purchase of MGM by 
Sony has not affected his licenses.

TANSTAAFL
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RE: [Ogf-l] d20 bubble burst and other repercussions

2005-02-19 Thread Tim Dugger



On 19 Feb 2005 at 14:47, Steven Trustrum wrote:


 Personally, I doubt that either MGM or Sony has been keeping track of
 what goes on in the d20 market enough for that to have had anything to
 do with the change. More likely than not, it came down to Eden being
 able to provide more money upfront than AEG considering licensing
 agreements don't have anything to do with actual sales. All of d20
 could be tanking for all MGM and Sony cared, so long as the licensing
 fee was what they wanted.


Eden has posted several times that MGM/Sony approached them to 
resubmit their licensing proposal for Stargate back in August of last 
year.


Since most licenses last for 5 year as a standard, chances are that 
AEG lost the license because it was unable to meet some sort of 
criteria within the licensing agreement.


Now George V. did make another statement the other day (cannot 
remember where I saw it though), where he basically said that while 
Eden has a new licensed product coming in 2005, it is NOT Stargate.


However, the way that he phrased that post, he did not deny that Eden 
had the license now. This has made me think that it is possible that 
Eden does have the license, and that it will most likely release its own 
Stargate game in 2006. --- Pure speculation on my part, nothing 
more






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