Re: [Ohrrpgce] SVN: james/13046 Disable checking for scNumLock when choosing a scancode for button mappi
We ought to have an alternative to the Pause key for pausing. A lot of the map layer shortcut keys in the map editor are problematic too, and alternatives would e good, but we're out of key combos. There are so many different things you might want to do to a map layer that I think we need a whole new control scheme where you select a layer then select an operation... as well as mouse support fo the same. On Mon, 8 Aug 2022 at 14:22, James Paige via Ohrrpgce < ohrrpgce@lists.motherhamster.org> wrote: > I fired up testgame/inpiuttest.rpg and made an exhaustive search. > > The normal place where the numlock key would be has been replaced with a > key that has a calculator icon on it. It does not send any scancode at all > with my current keyboard mapping. NumLock is always on, and after testing > every key on the keyboard (including Fn shift states) I never found any way > to turn it off. I also have neither ScrollLock nor Pause. > > On Sun, Aug 7, 2022 at 8:37 PM Ralph Versteegen via Ohrrpgce < > ohrrpgce@lists.motherhamster.org> wrote: > >> You were searching your keyboard but more likely you should have been >> searching the web for the numlock key; these things are well hidden ; ) >> >> On Mon, 8 Aug 2022 at 12:25, James Paige wrote: >> >>> There might be a NumLock key that I just failed to find. One of my >>> wife's pet names for me is "Terrible Detective Agency" >>> >>> My brain does not index well for search >>> >>> On Sun, Aug 7, 2022, 8:21 PM Ralph Versteegen >>> wrote: >>> I didn't know there were keyboards like that. Lack of numlock is potentially a problem if you want to use it in a game. If numlock is on, then we treat numpad keys as distinct so they don't work like arrow keys. Which is better than being stuck off, I suppose. On Mon, 8 Aug 2022 at 00:14, James Paige wrote: > For my computer it is stuck down at all times. I spent about 90 > seconds searching my keyboard for a NumLock key before I gave up and > changed the code > > Yeah, I think skipping caps lock and scrollock too is probably a good > idea > > On Sat, Aug 6, 2022, 11:13 PM Ralph Versteegen via Ohrrpgce < > ohrrpgce@lists.motherhamster.org> wrote: > >> Stuck down even if you press numlock to turn it off? In what >> situations? >> Is it appropriate to ignore capslock and scrolllock too? All three >> are ignored pretty much everywhere else that we scan for a pressed key. >> >> On Sun, 7 Aug 2022 at 07:45, subversion--- via Ohrrpgce < >> ohrrpgce@lists.motherhamster.org> wrote: >> >>> james >>> 2022-08-06 12:45:28 -0700 (Sat, 06 Aug 2022) >>> 117 >>> Disable checking for scNumLock when choosing a scancode for button >>> mapping, since it is stuck down in some situations >>> --- >>> U wip/generaledit.rbas >>> >>> ___ >>> Ohrrpgce mailing list >>> ohrrpgce@lists.motherhamster.org >>> >>> http://lists.motherhamster.org/listinfo.cgi/ohrrpgce-motherhamster.org >>> >> ___ >> Ohrrpgce mailing list >> ohrrpgce@lists.motherhamster.org >> http://lists.motherhamster.org/listinfo.cgi/ohrrpgce-motherhamster.org >> > ___ >> Ohrrpgce mailing list >> ohrrpgce@lists.motherhamster.org >> http://lists.motherhamster.org/listinfo.cgi/ohrrpgce-motherhamster.org >> > ___ > Ohrrpgce mailing list > ohrrpgce@lists.motherhamster.org > http://lists.motherhamster.org/listinfo.cgi/ohrrpgce-motherhamster.org > ___ Ohrrpgce mailing list ohrrpgce@lists.motherhamster.org http://lists.motherhamster.org/listinfo.cgi/ohrrpgce-motherhamster.org
Re: [Ohrrpgce] SVN: james/13046 Disable checking for scNumLock when choosing a scancode for button mappi
I fired up testgame/inpiuttest.rpg and made an exhaustive search. The normal place where the numlock key would be has been replaced with a key that has a calculator icon on it. It does not send any scancode at all with my current keyboard mapping. NumLock is always on, and after testing every key on the keyboard (including Fn shift states) I never found any way to turn it off. I also have neither ScrollLock nor Pause. On Sun, Aug 7, 2022 at 8:37 PM Ralph Versteegen via Ohrrpgce < ohrrpgce@lists.motherhamster.org> wrote: > You were searching your keyboard but more likely you should have been > searching the web for the numlock key; these things are well hidden ; ) > > On Mon, 8 Aug 2022 at 12:25, James Paige wrote: > >> There might be a NumLock key that I just failed to find. One of my wife's >> pet names for me is "Terrible Detective Agency" >> >> My brain does not index well for search >> >> On Sun, Aug 7, 2022, 8:21 PM Ralph Versteegen wrote: >> >>> I didn't know there were keyboards like that. >>> Lack of numlock is potentially a problem if you want to use it in a >>> game. If numlock is on, then we treat numpad keys as distinct so they don't >>> work like arrow keys. Which is better than being stuck off, I suppose. >>> >>> On Mon, 8 Aug 2022 at 00:14, James Paige >>> wrote: >>> For my computer it is stuck down at all times. I spent about 90 seconds searching my keyboard for a NumLock key before I gave up and changed the code Yeah, I think skipping caps lock and scrollock too is probably a good idea On Sat, Aug 6, 2022, 11:13 PM Ralph Versteegen via Ohrrpgce < ohrrpgce@lists.motherhamster.org> wrote: > Stuck down even if you press numlock to turn it off? In what > situations? > Is it appropriate to ignore capslock and scrolllock too? All three are > ignored pretty much everywhere else that we scan for a pressed key. > > On Sun, 7 Aug 2022 at 07:45, subversion--- via Ohrrpgce < > ohrrpgce@lists.motherhamster.org> wrote: > >> james >> 2022-08-06 12:45:28 -0700 (Sat, 06 Aug 2022) >> 117 >> Disable checking for scNumLock when choosing a scancode for button >> mapping, since it is stuck down in some situations >> --- >> U wip/generaledit.rbas >> >> ___ >> Ohrrpgce mailing list >> ohrrpgce@lists.motherhamster.org >> http://lists.motherhamster.org/listinfo.cgi/ohrrpgce-motherhamster.org >> > ___ > Ohrrpgce mailing list > ohrrpgce@lists.motherhamster.org > http://lists.motherhamster.org/listinfo.cgi/ohrrpgce-motherhamster.org > ___ > Ohrrpgce mailing list > ohrrpgce@lists.motherhamster.org > http://lists.motherhamster.org/listinfo.cgi/ohrrpgce-motherhamster.org > ___ Ohrrpgce mailing list ohrrpgce@lists.motherhamster.org http://lists.motherhamster.org/listinfo.cgi/ohrrpgce-motherhamster.org
Re: [Ohrrpgce] SVN: james/13046 Disable checking for scNumLock when choosing a scancode for button mappi
You were searching your keyboard but more likely you should have been searching the web for the numlock key; these things are well hidden ; ) On Mon, 8 Aug 2022 at 12:25, James Paige wrote: > There might be a NumLock key that I just failed to find. One of my wife's > pet names for me is "Terrible Detective Agency" > > My brain does not index well for search > > On Sun, Aug 7, 2022, 8:21 PM Ralph Versteegen wrote: > >> I didn't know there were keyboards like that. >> Lack of numlock is potentially a problem if you want to use it in a game. >> If numlock is on, then we treat numpad keys as distinct so they don't work >> like arrow keys. Which is better than being stuck off, I suppose. >> >> On Mon, 8 Aug 2022 at 00:14, James Paige wrote: >> >>> For my computer it is stuck down at all times. I spent about 90 seconds >>> searching my keyboard for a NumLock key before I gave up and changed the >>> code >>> >>> Yeah, I think skipping caps lock and scrollock too is probably a good >>> idea >>> >>> On Sat, Aug 6, 2022, 11:13 PM Ralph Versteegen via Ohrrpgce < >>> ohrrpgce@lists.motherhamster.org> wrote: >>> Stuck down even if you press numlock to turn it off? In what situations? Is it appropriate to ignore capslock and scrolllock too? All three are ignored pretty much everywhere else that we scan for a pressed key. On Sun, 7 Aug 2022 at 07:45, subversion--- via Ohrrpgce < ohrrpgce@lists.motherhamster.org> wrote: > james > 2022-08-06 12:45:28 -0700 (Sat, 06 Aug 2022) > 117 > Disable checking for scNumLock when choosing a scancode for button > mapping, since it is stuck down in some situations > --- > U wip/generaledit.rbas > > ___ > Ohrrpgce mailing list > ohrrpgce@lists.motherhamster.org > http://lists.motherhamster.org/listinfo.cgi/ohrrpgce-motherhamster.org > ___ Ohrrpgce mailing list ohrrpgce@lists.motherhamster.org http://lists.motherhamster.org/listinfo.cgi/ohrrpgce-motherhamster.org >>> ___ Ohrrpgce mailing list ohrrpgce@lists.motherhamster.org http://lists.motherhamster.org/listinfo.cgi/ohrrpgce-motherhamster.org
Re: [Ohrrpgce] SVN: james/13046 Disable checking for scNumLock when choosing a scancode for button mappi
There might be a NumLock key that I just failed to find. One of my wife's pet names for me is "Terrible Detective Agency" My brain does not index well for search On Sun, Aug 7, 2022, 8:21 PM Ralph Versteegen wrote: > I didn't know there were keyboards like that. > Lack of numlock is potentially a problem if you want to use it in a game. > If numlock is on, then we treat numpad keys as distinct so they don't work > like arrow keys. Which is better than being stuck off, I suppose. > > On Mon, 8 Aug 2022 at 00:14, James Paige wrote: > >> For my computer it is stuck down at all times. I spent about 90 seconds >> searching my keyboard for a NumLock key before I gave up and changed the >> code >> >> Yeah, I think skipping caps lock and scrollock too is probably a good idea >> >> On Sat, Aug 6, 2022, 11:13 PM Ralph Versteegen via Ohrrpgce < >> ohrrpgce@lists.motherhamster.org> wrote: >> >>> Stuck down even if you press numlock to turn it off? In what situations? >>> Is it appropriate to ignore capslock and scrolllock too? All three are >>> ignored pretty much everywhere else that we scan for a pressed key. >>> >>> On Sun, 7 Aug 2022 at 07:45, subversion--- via Ohrrpgce < >>> ohrrpgce@lists.motherhamster.org> wrote: >>> james 2022-08-06 12:45:28 -0700 (Sat, 06 Aug 2022) 117 Disable checking for scNumLock when choosing a scancode for button mapping, since it is stuck down in some situations --- U wip/generaledit.rbas ___ Ohrrpgce mailing list ohrrpgce@lists.motherhamster.org http://lists.motherhamster.org/listinfo.cgi/ohrrpgce-motherhamster.org >>> ___ >>> Ohrrpgce mailing list >>> ohrrpgce@lists.motherhamster.org >>> http://lists.motherhamster.org/listinfo.cgi/ohrrpgce-motherhamster.org >>> >> ___ Ohrrpgce mailing list ohrrpgce@lists.motherhamster.org http://lists.motherhamster.org/listinfo.cgi/ohrrpgce-motherhamster.org
Re: [Ohrrpgce] SVN: james/13046 Disable checking for scNumLock when choosing a scancode for button mappi
I didn't know there were keyboards like that. Lack of numlock is potentially a problem if you want to use it in a game. If numlock is on, then we treat numpad keys as distinct so they don't work like arrow keys. Which is better than being stuck off, I suppose. On Mon, 8 Aug 2022 at 00:14, James Paige wrote: > For my computer it is stuck down at all times. I spent about 90 seconds > searching my keyboard for a NumLock key before I gave up and changed the > code > > Yeah, I think skipping caps lock and scrollock too is probably a good idea > > On Sat, Aug 6, 2022, 11:13 PM Ralph Versteegen via Ohrrpgce < > ohrrpgce@lists.motherhamster.org> wrote: > >> Stuck down even if you press numlock to turn it off? In what situations? >> Is it appropriate to ignore capslock and scrolllock too? All three are >> ignored pretty much everywhere else that we scan for a pressed key. >> >> On Sun, 7 Aug 2022 at 07:45, subversion--- via Ohrrpgce < >> ohrrpgce@lists.motherhamster.org> wrote: >> >>> james >>> 2022-08-06 12:45:28 -0700 (Sat, 06 Aug 2022) >>> 117 >>> Disable checking for scNumLock when choosing a scancode for button >>> mapping, since it is stuck down in some situations >>> --- >>> U wip/generaledit.rbas >>> >>> ___ >>> Ohrrpgce mailing list >>> ohrrpgce@lists.motherhamster.org >>> http://lists.motherhamster.org/listinfo.cgi/ohrrpgce-motherhamster.org >>> >> ___ >> Ohrrpgce mailing list >> ohrrpgce@lists.motherhamster.org >> http://lists.motherhamster.org/listinfo.cgi/ohrrpgce-motherhamster.org >> > ___ Ohrrpgce mailing list ohrrpgce@lists.motherhamster.org http://lists.motherhamster.org/listinfo.cgi/ohrrpgce-motherhamster.org
Re: [Ohrrpgce] SVN: james/13046 Disable checking for scNumLock when choosing a scancode for button mappi
For my computer it is stuck down at all times. I spent about 90 seconds searching my keyboard for a NumLock key before I gave up and changed the code Yeah, I think skipping caps lock and scrollock too is probably a good idea On Sat, Aug 6, 2022, 11:13 PM Ralph Versteegen via Ohrrpgce < ohrrpgce@lists.motherhamster.org> wrote: > Stuck down even if you press numlock to turn it off? In what situations? > Is it appropriate to ignore capslock and scrolllock too? All three are > ignored pretty much everywhere else that we scan for a pressed key. > > On Sun, 7 Aug 2022 at 07:45, subversion--- via Ohrrpgce < > ohrrpgce@lists.motherhamster.org> wrote: > >> james >> 2022-08-06 12:45:28 -0700 (Sat, 06 Aug 2022) >> 117 >> Disable checking for scNumLock when choosing a scancode for button >> mapping, since it is stuck down in some situations >> --- >> U wip/generaledit.rbas >> >> ___ >> Ohrrpgce mailing list >> ohrrpgce@lists.motherhamster.org >> http://lists.motherhamster.org/listinfo.cgi/ohrrpgce-motherhamster.org >> > ___ > Ohrrpgce mailing list > ohrrpgce@lists.motherhamster.org > http://lists.motherhamster.org/listinfo.cgi/ohrrpgce-motherhamster.org > ___ Ohrrpgce mailing list ohrrpgce@lists.motherhamster.org http://lists.motherhamster.org/listinfo.cgi/ohrrpgce-motherhamster.org
Re: [Ohrrpgce] SVN: james/13046 Disable checking for scNumLock when choosing a scancode for button mappi
Stuck down even if you press numlock to turn it off? In what situations? Is it appropriate to ignore capslock and scrolllock too? All three are ignored pretty much everywhere else that we scan for a pressed key. On Sun, 7 Aug 2022 at 07:45, subversion--- via Ohrrpgce < ohrrpgce@lists.motherhamster.org> wrote: > james > 2022-08-06 12:45:28 -0700 (Sat, 06 Aug 2022) > 117 > Disable checking for scNumLock when choosing a scancode for button > mapping, since it is stuck down in some situations > --- > U wip/generaledit.rbas > > ___ > Ohrrpgce mailing list > ohrrpgce@lists.motherhamster.org > http://lists.motherhamster.org/listinfo.cgi/ohrrpgce-motherhamster.org > ___ Ohrrpgce mailing list ohrrpgce@lists.motherhamster.org http://lists.motherhamster.org/listinfo.cgi/ohrrpgce-motherhamster.org
