[old-chevy-truck] Fun With Chemicals
I hear you Doug ; I still miss Stoddard Safety Solvent though . I used to have an MSDS sheet for a red clay brick ~ being it is 100 % inert , the sheet was the blandest you could imagine , only a very few got the laugh out of it . -Nate Doug Wrote : I just love it when they bring out NEW data on OLD chemicals. I worked in a chemical plant making Benzene Toluene. None of the MSDS sheets for Toluene looked anything like that. Of course the old hands used to wash their tools with the Benzene, because it was such a good solvent back before anybody figured out just how bad it was/is for us. Doug Ole Chevy and GMC trucks rule! To unsubscribe, send an email (with no subject, no body, just the email), to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/old-chevy-truck/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/old-chevy-truck/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [old-chevy-truck] Re: Gas Tank Restoration
I'm green with envy. In my youth I used to do field work all day on a 1952 JD A on our 357 acre farm in Wakeman Ohio. I have it on my list to find and rebuild one after the 1952 3600 and the 1926 Model T that are in line. My brother just finished rebuilding a JD 730. Bob Moore [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Ole Chevy and GMC trucks rule! To unsubscribe, send an email (with no subject, no body, just the email), to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/old-chevy-truck/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/old-chevy-truck/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [old-chevy-truck] Re: Gas Tank Restoration
JD Green I presume. I too spent some time on the farm with some Johnny Poppers. [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.OldSub.com - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: old-chevy-truck@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, September 09, 2006 8:05 AM Subject: Re: [old-chevy-truck] Re: Gas Tank Restoration I'm green with envy. . [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Ole Chevy and GMC trucks rule! To unsubscribe, send an email (with no subject, no body, just the email), to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/old-chevy-truck/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/old-chevy-truck/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [old-chevy-truck] Re: Gas Tank Restoration
Not to mention name brands but what about Coca-Cola? (Half joking...) On Sep 9, 2006, at 7:48 AM, vwnate1 wrote: Acetone is the stuff to use , as much as he can afford and have him toss in a BIG handfull of _clean_ sheet metal screws , nuts washers to help scrape off the crud in the corners faster easier as he shakes the bejeebers out of it ~ this is the hard part , takes lots and lots of shaking and turning the tank as there will be sludge varnish in the botton and rusty crud in the top , all of it must be scraped and then drained out , I like to strain through a BIG funnel lined with felt scraps so I can not only re-cover my hardware but this also allows you to re-use the liquid medium a couple times to help rinse the tank . Then pour in a gallon or two of Phosphoric Acid and slosh that all around to dissolve the remaining rust . DO NOT use Muriatic Acid ! (swimming pool) this eats the good metal , Phosphoric Acid cannot damage good metal . Good luck with the J-D , we had a '35 Model A and a '37 Model B John Deer tractors on the farm when I was a laddie , good tractors if a bit slow . This is a very freindly group so post your name at the end of each post to garner better more replies . -Nate mciolli wrote: Hello all. I've a question for the group regarding removing the varnish sediment left behind in an old gas tank. The tank in question is off of a '65 John Deere, but I'm guessing some of those here have encountered this. I went thru the archives and found some references to restoring tanks, but none that I found recommended what type of solvent to use to remove the varnish. My friend that's restoring the tractor had some success with Gum Cutter (Acetone, Toluene, Xylene carb cleaner), but the quantity required would cost way too much. He dumped a quart of Acetone in the tank and said it seemed to cut it, but he's not sure if this is the best and/or most readily available solvent to use. One of the archived posts suggested taking the tank to a radiator repair shop and having it boiled, but he's trying to clean it on his own if it doesn't cost a bundle. Since a repop tank isn't available he's limited to cleaning/reusing the tank he has. Any suggestions the group has would be greatly appreciated. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Ole Chevy and GMC trucks rule! To unsubscribe, send an email (with no subject, no body, just the email), to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/old-chevy-truck/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [old-chevy-truck] Re: Gas Tank Restoration
Too much sugar and not enough acid :) Doug -Original Message- From: old-chevy-truck@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jonas Thaler Sent: Saturday, September 09, 2006 11:29 AM To: old-chevy-truck@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [old-chevy-truck] Re: Gas Tank Restoration Not to mention name brands but what about Coca-Cola? (Half joking...) On Sep 9, 2006, at 7:48 AM, vwnate1 wrote: Acetone is the stuff to use , as much as he can afford and have him toss in a BIG handfull of _clean_ sheet metal screws , nuts washers to help scrape off the crud in the corners faster easier as he shakes the bejeebers out of it ~ this is the hard part , takes lots and lots of shaking and turning the tank as there will be sludge varnish in the botton and rusty crud in the top , all of it must be scraped and then drained out , I like to strain through a BIG funnel lined with felt scraps so I can not only re-cover my hardware but this also allows you to re-use the liquid medium a couple times to help rinse the tank . Then pour in a gallon or two of Phosphoric Acid and slosh that all around to dissolve the remaining rust . DO NOT use Muriatic Acid ! (swimming pool) this eats the good metal , Phosphoric Acid cannot damage good metal . Good luck with the J-D , we had a '35 Model A and a '37 Model B John Deer tractors on the farm when I was a laddie , good tractors if a bit slow . This is a very freindly group so post your name at the end of each post to garner better more replies . -Nate mciolli wrote: Hello all. I've a question for the group regarding removing the varnish sediment left behind in an old gas tank. The tank in question is off of a '65 John Deere, but I'm guessing some of those here have encountered this. I went thru the archives and found some references to restoring tanks, but none that I found recommended what type of solvent to use to remove the varnish. My friend that's restoring the tractor had some success with Gum Cutter (Acetone, Toluene, Xylene carb cleaner), but the quantity required would cost way too much. He dumped a quart of Acetone in the tank and said it seemed to cut it, but he's not sure if this is the best and/or most readily available solvent to use. One of the archived posts suggested taking the tank to a radiator repair shop and having it boiled, but he's trying to clean it on his own if it doesn't cost a bundle. Since a repop tank isn't available he's limited to cleaning/reusing the tank he has. Any suggestions the group has would be greatly appreciated. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Ole Chevy and GMC trucks rule! To unsubscribe, send an email (with no subject, no body, just the email), to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links Ole Chevy and GMC trucks rule! To unsubscribe, send an email (with no subject, no body, just the email), to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/old-chevy-truck/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/old-chevy-truck/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [old-chevy-truck] Re: Gas Tank Restoration
My 47 1 ton has had several modifications, one of which is the gas tank(s). It currently has two saddle bag tanks, but I was wondering if anyone could confirm that these actually came with a underbody style gas tank? I have someone working on the truck now who says that only one of the tanks is worth saving due to lots of rust in the bottom. If that is so, I would prefer to go back to something closer to original. Any suggestions to a vendor for these? Dan Corsicana, TX vwnate1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Acetone is the stuff to use , as much as he can afford and have him toss in a BIG handfull of _clean_ sheet metal screws , nuts washers to help scrape off the crud in the corners faster easier as he shakes the bejeebers out of it ~ this is the hard part , takes lots and lots of shaking and turning the tank as there will be sludge varnish in the botton and rusty crud in the top , all of it must be scraped and then drained out , I like to strain through a BIG funnel lined with felt scraps so I can not only re-cover my hardware but this also allows you to re-use the liquid medium a couple times to help rinse the tank . Then pour in a gallon or two of Phosphoric Acid and slosh that all around to dissolve the remaining rust . DO NOT use Muriatic Acid ! (swimming pool) this eats the good metal , Phosphoric Acid cannot damage good metal . Good luck with the J-D , we had a '35 Model A and a '37 Model B John Deer tractors on the farm when I was a laddie , good tractors if a bit slow . This is a very freindly group so post your name at the end of each post to garner better more replies . -Nate mciolli wrote: Hello all. I've a question for the group regarding removing the varnish sediment left behind in an old gas tank. The tank in question is off of a '65 John Deere, but I'm guessing some of those here have encountered this. I went thru the archives and found some references to restoring tanks, but none that I found recommended what type of solvent to use to remove the varnish. My friend that's restoring the tractor had some success with Gum Cutter (Acetone, Toluene, Xylene carb cleaner), but the quantity required would cost way too much. He dumped a quart of Acetone in the tank and said it seemed to cut it, but he's not sure if this is the best and/or most readily available solvent to use. One of the archived posts suggested taking the tank to a radiator repair shop and having it boiled, but he's trying to clean it on his own if it doesn't cost a bundle. Since a repop tank isn't available he's limited to cleaning/reusing the tank he has. Any suggestions the group has would be greatly appreciated. - All-new Yahoo! Mail - Fire up a more powerful email and get things done faster. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Ole Chevy and GMC trucks rule! To unsubscribe, send an email (with no subject, no body, just the email), to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/old-chevy-truck/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/old-chevy-truck/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[old-chevy-truck] Re: John Deere Tractor Fun
Well ; I _was_ green anyway . Fun ? not that I recall ~ we were too poor to afford a lousy group 1 battery so we removed the flywheel cover and started it by grabbing the flywheel's teeth by hand and giving it a mighty spin , after opening the priming cups to lower the compression of course ~ Jimmy once got a bit of a cut on his hand but most of us had serious callouses so no damage . had to be very carefull to not lean into the path of the priming cups tho' as they'd squirt out 2' long flames as the engine lit off Then there was the time a connecting rod broke and came flying out the top of the crankcase , drove it home from the field on one lung , got another crankcase and re-built it , ran much better after that . Didja ever runs yours on the kerosene carby device ? we never did , old timers said they'd done so back in the day . You're giving me tractor memories now , not all are good -Nate Bob wrote: I'm green with envy. In my youth I used to do field work all day on a 1952 JD A on our 357 acre farm in Wakeman Ohio. I have it on my list to find and rebuild one after the 1952 3600 and the 1926 Model T that are in line. My brother just finished rebuilding a JD 730. Bob Moore [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Ole Chevy and GMC trucks rule! To unsubscribe, send an email (with no subject, no body, just the email), to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/old-chevy-truck/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [old-chevy-truck] Re: Gas Tank De-Rusting
Jasco makes some NASTY products! (I love that in a chemical manufacturing company!) On Sep 9, 2006, at 7:23 PM, vwnate1 wrote: Yeah ; Coke has Phosphoric Acid in it (drop a tooth into a glass full , it'll be -gone- next day) but really not enough to do a good job ~ I used to struggle with Coke and BB's but then I discovered Jasco Metal Etch in the hardware store's flooring dept'. and life has been good ever since . -Nate Jonas wrote: Not to mention name brands but what about Coca-Cola? (Half joking...) On Sep 9, 2006, at 7:48 AM, vwnate1 wrote: Acetone is the stuff to use , as much as he can afford and have him toss in a BIG handfull of _clean_ sheet metal screws , nuts washers to help scrape off the crud in the corners faster easier as he shakes the bejeebers out of it ~ this is the hard part , takes lots and lots of shaking and turning the tank as there will be sludge varnish in the botton and rusty crud in the top , all of it must be scraped and then drained out , I like to strain through a BIG funnel lined with felt scraps so I can not only re-cover my hardware but this also allows you to re-use the liquid medium a couple times to help rinse the tank . Then pour in a gallon or two of Phosphoric Acid and slosh that all around to dissolve the remaining rust . DO NOT use Muriatic Acid ! (swimming pool) this eats the good metal , Phosphoric Acid cannot damage good metal . Good luck with the J-D , we had a '35 Model A and a '37 Model B John Deer tractors on the farm when I was a laddie , good tractors if a bit slow . This is a very freindly group so post your name at the end of each post to garner better more replies . -Nate [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Ole Chevy and GMC trucks rule! To unsubscribe, send an email (with no subject, no body, just the email), to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/old-chevy-truck/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/old-chevy-truck/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
