Re: [old-chevy-truck] Re: shake down cruise

2011-08-17 Thread m...@noakes.com
Bill,

The engine in the 86 vette is the original aluminum head small block 350 
so 1986. Big differences between that vette and your truck include: 
tuned port injection instead of carburetion, 2.73 vs. 3.36 rear, and 
overdrive transmission vs Muncie, and the 48 may weigh as much as 1,000 
lbs more than the vette. Not sure on how much the altitude would impact 
the mileage. What is your rpm at 55mph? I bet it's way over my 1600rpm.

With the right setup, you should be able to break 20mpg in your truck, 
but the focus of this list is more stock vehicles.

Mark N

On 8/16/11 10:24 PM, Bill Yanish wrote:

 What yr is the 86vett eng 350 I have a 48 ' with an older 350  muncie 
 4spd and 3.36 re. In colo. 1 mi hi. I only get @ 10mpg . really need 
 to get more so I can drive it more especially in winter . I have a 
 82 280 nissan ZX . Gets good mpg @ 30 but last owner set it up with 
 the bigger wheels and those lousy no cusion tires  lowered it . It 
 really kinda screwed it up. I had a 79 280 with stock everything . 
 Made it through the snow with no! prob. Just put 2 70lb sand bags with 
 reg tires . Never got stuck . Bill

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 I have had similar and even better experience with an 86 Corvette 350,
 tuned port injection, 700R4, 2.73 rear end, intake and exhaust freed up
 for racing, and it gets about 27mpg on the Interstate with the cruise
 set on 70mph. I've hypermiled it with all the tricks and including
 limiting speeds to no more than 55mph to 32mpg (boring...). At 55mph,
 it's only turning about 1600rpm...but loves it...doesn't lug.

 You're NOT going to get mpg like that running a stock carbureted vintage
 truck engine running through 3.90 gears. The Task Force trucks also
 weigh more. Count on about 1mpg loss for each 300lbs of additional weight.

 I intend to run my 58 Suburban with a small block V8 through a stock
 3-speed and a Borg Warner OD. The OD drops the effective gear ratio down
 quite a bit...seems like it was to 2.73. Still have to see how that
 works out as the truck is in stalled restoration mode.

 Mark N




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RE: [old-chevy-truck] Re: shake down cruise

2011-08-17 Thread Hanlon, Bill
Big differences between that vette and your truck include:
   There is also a slight difference in the drag coefficient.



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Subject: Re: [old-chevy-truck] Re: shake down cruise



Bill,

The engine in the 86 vette is the original aluminum head small block 350
so 1986. Big differences between that vette and your truck include:
tuned port injection instead of carburetion, 2.73 vs. 3.36 rear, and
overdrive transmission vs Muncie, and the 48 may weigh as much as 1,000
lbs more than the vette. Not sure on how much the altitude would impact
the mileage. What is your rpm at 55mph? I bet it's way over my 1600rpm.

With the right setup, you should be able to break 20mpg in your truck,
but the focus of this list is more stock vehicles.

Mark N

On 8/16/11 10:24 PM, Bill Yanish wrote:

 What yr is the 86vett eng 350 I have a 48 ' with an older 350 muncie
 4spd and 3.36 re. In colo. 1 mi hi. I only get @ 10mpg . really need
 to get more so I can drive it more especially in winter . I have a
 82 280 nissan ZX . Gets good mpg @ 30 but last owner set it up with
 the bigger wheels and those lousy no cusion tires  lowered it . It
 really kinda screwed it up. I had a 79 280 with stock everything .
 Made it through the snow with no! prob. Just put 2 70lb sand bags with
 reg tires . Never got stuck . Bill

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 Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2011 7:31 PM
 Subject: Re: [old-chevy-truck] Re: shake down cruise


 I have had similar and even better experience with an 86 Corvette 350,
 tuned port injection, 700R4, 2.73 rear end, intake and exhaust freed up
 for racing, and it gets about 27mpg on the Interstate with the cruise
 set on 70mph. I've hypermiled it with all the tricks and including
 limiting speeds to no more than 55mph to 32mpg (boring...). At 55mph,
 it's only turning about 1600rpm...but loves it...doesn't lug.

 You're NOT going to get mpg like that running a stock carbureted vintage
 truck engine running through 3.90 gears. The Task Force trucks also
 weigh more. Count on about 1mpg loss for each 300lbs of additional weight.

 I intend to run my 58 Suburban with a small block V8 through a stock
 3-speed and a Borg Warner OD. The OD drops the effective gear ratio down
 quite a bit...seems like it was to 2.73. Still have to see how that
 works out as the truck is in stalled restoration mode.

 Mark N


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[old-chevy-truck] 4.4L V6 350 SBC Swap ?

2011-08-17 Thread Nate

How difficult is this to do ? .

A guy here @ work's old 1979 (?) 4.3 V6 is smoking badly , leaks oil and just 
failed SMOG testing , he says he wants to make it a V8 .

A budget job of course , used 350 CID SBC engine from who knows where just yet .

TIA ,

-Nate





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Re: [old-chevy-truck] 4.4L V6 350 SBC Swap ?

2011-08-17 Thread Brian Gray
Not difficult to do. Just have to check the position of mounts (engine and 
trans). Also have to make clearance for the fan (unless he put's in an electric 
fan) and if he is going fuel injection (fuel upgrade i.e pump and lines).
Brian

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Subject: [old-chevy-truck] 4.4L V6  350 SBC Swap ?
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Date: Wednesday, August 17, 2011, 12:40 PM


  




How difficult is this to do ? .

A guy here @ work's old 1979 (?) 4.3 V6 is smoking badly , leaks oil and just 
failed SMOG testing , he says he wants to make it a V8 .

A budget job of course , used 350 CID SBC engine from who knows where just yet .

TIA ,

-Nate








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Re: [old-chevy-truck] 4.4L V6 350 SBC Swap ?

2011-08-17 Thread Brian Gray
Nate,
Any V-8 up to the 454 can be mounted in to the '79. Looking up under 1979 Chevy 
truck specifications would provide the information including engine and 
transmission information. I think most trucks had the four bolt main. I would 
think having any engine gone through would be a good idea before finding any 
issues down the road.
Brian

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From: Nate vwna...@yahoo.com
Subject: [old-chevy-truck] 4.4L V6  350 SBC Swap ?
To: old-chevy-truck@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, August 17, 2011, 12:40 PM


  




How difficult is this to do ? .

A guy here @ work's old 1979 (?) 4.3 V6 is smoking badly , leaks oil and just 
failed SMOG testing , he says he wants to make it a V8 .

A budget job of course , used 350 CID SBC engine from who knows where just yet .

TIA ,

-Nate








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