Re: [old-chevy-truck] Overboring

2011-09-25 Thread K Lehmann
Ken
Although .060 is quite common, the main problem we have with larger overbore 
the original cast cylinder is not centered in the block causing an engine with 
a short life. For a long lasting or High performance or older engines we highly 
recommend sleeving along with line boring the crank bores prior to the cylinder 
boring.

Lee
Journeyman IAM machinist [Retired]

  From: Nate 
  To: old-chevy-truck@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Saturday, September 24, 2011 6:40 PM
  Subject: [old-chevy-truck] Overboring




  It's *very* poor practice on several counts : the cylinder wall get too thin 
so the engine tends to run too hot and this means short engine life .

  Plug shift when the block was originally casted means the cylinders may have 
seriously thin spots in their walls , this leads to  drop outs  where the 
cylinder simply fractures  fails as you're happily Motoring along

  If the block is a good 'un , have the cylinders sleeved ~ this will be 
expen$ive but , boring 0.080 over is plain old silly ~ this means way beyond 
ill advised and well into foolhardy .

  Any Machinist who suggests such a thing , is no longer on your team .

  -Nate
  Ken Wrote ;

  Hey guys, I posted a question about boring a 235 .080. last week. It is rare
  that I don't get at least one hit from you guys. My question is; has anyone
  bored a 235 chev up to .080. They make pistons that size, but I am getting 
mixed
  messages from lots of mechanics and machinests about the adviseability.
  Thanks for any input.
  Ken



  

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Re: [old-chevy-truck] Overboring

2011-09-25 Thread Ken Wagner
Thanks, Lee, Nate and Jonas for your input. I was pretty much leaning toward 
having the bad hole sleeved and sticking with the original .060 bore (if the 
rest of cyls specs out OK).
 
I wasn't looking forward to punching it out to.080 either. I don't need the 
risk of overheating especially down here in the AZ desert.
Ken

From: K Lehmann klehm...@bentonrea.com
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Sent: Sunday, September 25, 2011 9:06 AM
Subject: Re: [old-chevy-truck] Overboring


  
Ken
Although .060 is quite common, the main problem we have with larger overbore 
the original cast cylinder is not centered in the block causing an engine with 
a short life. For a long lasting or High performance or older engines we highly 
recommend sleeving along with line boring the crank bores prior to the cylinder 
boring.

Lee
Journeyman IAM machinist [Retired]

From: Nate 
To: old-chevy-truck@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Saturday, September 24, 2011 6:40 PM
Subject: [old-chevy-truck] Overboring

It's *very* poor practice on several counts : the cylinder wall get too thin so 
the engine tends to run too hot and this means short engine life .

Plug shift when the block was originally casted means the cylinders may have 
seriously thin spots in their walls , this leads to  drop outs  where the 
cylinder simply fractures  fails as you're happily Motoring along

If the block is a good 'un , have the cylinders sleeved ~ this will be 
expen$ive but , boring 0.080 over is plain old silly ~ this means way beyond 
ill advised and well into foolhardy .

Any Machinist who suggests such a thing , is no longer on your team .

-Nate
Ken Wrote ;

Hey guys, I posted a question about boring a 235 .080. last week. It is rare
that I don't get at least one hit from you guys. My question is; has anyone
bored a 235 chev up to .080. They make pistons that size, but I am getting mixed
messages from lots of mechanics and machinests about the adviseability.
Thanks for any input.
Ken

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[old-chevy-truck] Overboring

2011-09-24 Thread Nate

It's *very* poor practice on several counts : the cylinder wall get too thin so 
the engine tends to run too hot and this means short engine life .

Plug shift when the block was originally casted means the cylinders may have 
seriously thin spots in their walls , this leads to  drop outs  where the 
cylinder simply fractures  fails as you're happily Motoring along

If the block is a good 'un , have the cylinders sleeved ~ this will be 
expen$ive but , boring 0.080 over is plain old silly ~ this means way beyond 
ill advised and well into foolhardy .

Any Machinist who suggests such a thing , is no longer on your team .

-Nate
  Ken Wrote ;

Hey guys, I posted a question about boring a 235 .080. last week. It is rare
that I don't get at least one hit from you guys. My question is; has anyone
bored a 235 chev up to .080. They make pistons that size, but I am getting mixed
messages from lots of mechanics and machinests about the adviseability.
Thanks for any input.
Ken





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Re: [old-chevy-truck] Overboring

2011-09-24 Thread Jonas Thaler
Some of my best friends are...uh...overboring.

Sorry.  

I had the choice between sleeving and using a different (235) block and I 
decided to use a good junk block I had access to, and all is well.

The block came from a 1962 Buick I think, and it had a couple of lugs in the 
wrong place so the bird legs no longer fit, but we actually made a beautiful 
custom center motor mount for it.   Unless you are looking for bird legs (which 
I admit I used to think were cool) you can't even notice it.




Thanks

jonas





On Sep 24, 2011, at 6:40 PM, Nate wrote:


It's *very* poor practice on several counts : the cylinder wall get too thin so 
the engine tends to run too hot and this means short engine life .

Plug shift when the block was originally casted means the cylinders may have 
seriously thin spots in their walls , this leads to  drop outs  where the 
cylinder simply fractures  fails as you're happily Motoring along

If the block is a good 'un , have the cylinders sleeved ~ this will be 
expen$ive but , boring 0.080 over is plain old silly ~ this means way beyond 
ill advised and well into foolhardy .

Any Machinist who suggests such a thing , is no longer on your team .

-Nate
Ken Wrote ;

Hey guys, I posted a question about boring a 235 .080. last week. It is rare
that I don't get at least one hit from you guys. My question is; has anyone
bored a 235 chev up to .080. They make pistons that size, but I am getting mixed
messages from lots of mechanics and machinests about the adviseability.
Thanks for any input.
Ken





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Re: [old-chevy-truck] Overboring

2011-09-24 Thread Jonas Thaler
I forgot to mention that my truck is a 1959 3200 Chevy.

Cheers.


jt




On Sep 24, 2011, at 6:46 PM, Jonas Thaler wrote:

Some of my best friends are...uh...overboring.

Sorry.  

I had the choice between sleeving and using a different (235) block and I 
decided to use a good junk block I had access to, and all is well.

The block came from a 1962 Buick I think, and it had a couple of lugs in the 
wrong place so the bird legs no longer fit, but we actually made a beautiful 
custom center motor mount for it.   Unless you are looking for bird legs (which 
I admit I used to think were cool) you can't even notice it.




Thanks

jonas





On Sep 24, 2011, at 6:40 PM, Nate wrote:


It's *very* poor practice on several counts : the cylinder wall get too thin so 
the engine tends to run too hot and this means short engine life .

Plug shift when the block was originally casted means the cylinders may have 
seriously thin spots in their walls , this leads to  drop outs  where the 
cylinder simply fractures  fails as you're happily Motoring along

If the block is a good 'un , have the cylinders sleeved ~ this will be 
expen$ive but , boring 0.080 over is plain old silly ~ this means way beyond 
ill advised and well into foolhardy .

Any Machinist who suggests such a thing , is no longer on your team .

-Nate
Ken Wrote ;

Hey guys, I posted a question about boring a 235 .080. last week. It is rare
that I don't get at least one hit from you guys. My question is; has anyone
bored a 235 chev up to .080. They make pistons that size, but I am getting mixed
messages from lots of mechanics and machinests about the adviseability.
Thanks for any input.
Ken





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