Re: thoughts on fuel economy
67 Olds, > This subject hits a nerve with me... > http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-992194168790800&q=water+car > This is not a hoax. It is fact. Unfortunately, there is another real problem. There is a little law of physics that is called The Conservation of Energy. It cannot be violated. Energy into a system *must* equal the energy out of the system. The inventer must separate H2 and O2 from water and then use the H2 for fuel, which recombines with O2 to make water as a by-product. See anything wrong here? When was the work done? The energy equation for this system will not balance. Also, there is no trick to running electrolyis with tap water. It's done with seawater every single day. Don't get me wrong, I want a zero-point energy device right this minute, along with a cold fusion device. I, personally, have an urgent need for that type of power system. There's a couple of people on this List who know why. But I don't think this device is it. On another note in relation to this invention, the Lone Lantern Society http://www.lonelantern.org/ is a sponsor for the inventer. There's just one problem with that. The Lone Lantern Society is one of those groups that claims 9/11 was a hoax put on by our government. That destroys any credibility the inventer may have been able to claim. No one wants to get into an arguement with me by claiming 9/11 was a hoax. Milton Schick 1964 442 Cutlass [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Tires/traction: was Re: OT: thoughts on fuel economy
Joe and John, > But all this got me to thinking . . I know the whole "lighter but larger" > cars being safer turned the conventional assumptions on their head. > However, in a somewhat different line of thinking, how does lightening the > car affect traction? You can have a problem. That's why the suspension must be designed to compensate. For cornering, cut the roll rate and keep the tire treads flat on the pavement. The reduced weight, itself, will remove some of the inertia moment vectoring outward when in a high speed corner and reduce the roll rate. > Assuming no changes to the tires, does making a car lighter improve > overall > traction and handling, or worsen it? Improves cornering traction by removing weight from the center of gravity. Has a similar effect to lowering the center of gravity. Weight is usually an enemy when it involves cornering and cornering traction. > I was thinking that being lighter > might make traction worse simply because there's less downward force on > the > tires. That's for straightline traction, like at the drag strip. The way to cure that problem is design the suspension system to raise upward when the drivetrain is torqued. As Newton stated, "For every action, there is an equal and opposite reaction." When the body rises on the suspension when torque is applied, the reverse of the body weight is shoved down into the tires, particularly the rear tires. That makes the rear tires stick, spin less, and keep the front tires reasonably on the ground so the driver can steer. Wheelstands do not win races. Cars that keep their front end down win races. A large amount of power is wasted during a wheelstand, power that could move the car down the track much, much quicker. > But on the other hand . . a heavier car has more inertia. Wouldn't that > adversely affect handling? Absolutely. Heavy cars slide off highways in the rain, snow, and ice, especially when the driver has no clue how to drive that car. > How does real-world physics work in this regard? Mass always wins, but sometimes that win is a crash. Milton Schick 1964 442 Cutlass [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Fwd: RE: TK91014 Your recent email to eBay's Trust and Safety Department. (KMM233503467V56636L0KM)
John, > There is a guy, on ebay right now, selling 5 442 items: 3 badges, a cowl > plate, and a vin plate, allowing someone to fully clone a 67 442. > > This is both illegal, and really, really stupid. Other than the 442 trim > code on the cowl (5V), I think, neither the cowl, nor vin, say anything > about it being a 442! The vin says Cutlass Supreme Holiday > Coupe/Post/Convertable and that's it. Which eBay auction number is that one? It's a Federal Felony to sell a body tag and VIN plate. I'll contact the seller and tell him so. If he won't respond, I'll turn him into the FBI. Milton Schick 1964 442 Cutlass [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Fwd: RE: TK91014 Your recent email to eBay's Trust and Safety Department. (KMM233503467V56636L0KM)
I agree with the horrible job of scam-policing. There is a guy, on ebay right now, selling 5 442 items: 3 badges, a cowl plate, and a vin plate, allowing someone to fully clone a 67 442. This is both illegal, and really, really stupid. Other than the 442 trim code on the cowl (5V), I think, neither the cowl, nor vin, say anything about it being a 442! The vin says Cutlass Supreme Holiday Coupe/Post/Convertable and that's it. Some 442s apparently did not even come with that cowl code either. It's really a waste of time to do that...he should have done a 68-71 instead. -John.
Re: EVIL # 200043409118
Sent the seller a note suggesting he try to sell the body intact. According to his reply below he would like to do that. Kerry Response from 442cash 442cash( 66) Positive feedback: 100% Member since: Feb-11-06 Location: IL, United States Registered on: www.ebay.com Item: 66 67 OLDSMOBILE: CUTLASS/442 PASSENGER QUARTER PANEL (200043409118) This message was sent while the listing was active. 442cash is the seller. I would like to sell as a rolling chassy. --- Troy Provost <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Alex, I hope he didn't cut these quarters where he > had them > marked. Later, Troy > > > At 07:12 PM 11/5/2006, you wrote: > > Was looking at the 442 stuff on evil and saw this > >auction. It takes all kinds of folks to make a > world > >but is it just nuts to cut up a body like this or > am I > >missing something here?? Isn't this worth more as > a > >buildable body with 5VY tag? > >#200043409118 Quarter > >#200043406486 Quarter > >#200043160627 Body Plate > >
Re: EVIL # 200043409118
Alex, I hope he didn't cut these quarters where he had them marked. Later, Troy At 07:12 PM 11/5/2006, you wrote: Was looking at the 442 stuff on evil and saw this auction. It takes all kinds of folks to make a world but is it just nuts to cut up a body like this or am I missing something here?? Isn't this worth more as a buildable body with 5VY tag? #200043409118 Quarter #200043406486 Quarter #200043160627 Body Plate
Re: 1998 Intrigue Fog Lights wanted
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1998 Intrigue Fog Lights wanted
Looking for a set of fog lamps for a '98 Intrigue. Mine have had water get into the housings and turned them orange. I've price them at www.gmpartsdirect.com at roughly $80 each. Looking for something cheaper than that but no junkyards here locally have them. If you have any, please let me know. My email address is below. Thanks, Andrew Geeting [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: GA contact to go see the 69/70 Cutlass?
Chris Take a road trip. She might be right and this might be a very unusual car. GO man GO --- Christopher Witt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Who's near Hortense GA that can go see the 70 with a > 69 title? > > Perhaps I just ask their local Sherriff to drop by > over there to ck in on > the car? > --- > Chris Witt > *the* Rocket Scientist > 1303 W. Miller Rd. > Lansing MI 48911 > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Cell 517-449-0432 weekends or short weekday calls or > leave message. > Home 517-882-9747 thru 10-11pm MI time most days > > _ > Get FREE company branded e-mail accounts and > business Web site from > Microsoft Office Live > http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/mcrssaub0050001411mrt/direct/01/ > >
EVIL # 200043409118
Was looking at the 442 stuff on evil and saw this auction. It takes all kinds of folks to make a world but is it just nuts to cut up a body like this or am I missing something here?? Isn't this worth more as a buildable body with 5VY tag? #200043409118 Quarter #200043406486 Quarter #200043160627 Body Plate
69-70 Olds 98 parts FS
Hello Olds guys and gals: I had corresponded a year (or more) ago with someone needing a rear fender skirt for a 69/70 Olds 98. This weekend I found a pair (one NOW, one used w/minor rust) hidden in the garage... I've lost the e-mail... anyone interested? Also found a NOS battery tray (perhaps for 69/70 B-body also???) GM #327172 grp 2.333 E-mail off-line if interested. Thanks, Frank Iezzi [EMAIL PROTECTED] Access over 1 million songs - Yahoo! Music Unlimited (http://music.yahoo.com/unlimited)
Re: 1998 Intrigue GL noises
Your right, the blower motor probably could have been oiled but the reason it was doing this was due to a water leak at the windshield that let water into the passenger compartment. I figured if I had to pull the thing to oil it, I might as well put a new one back in with a warranty. Same with the alternator. It's easier to buy a new/remanufactured one that have the stock one rebuilt and have a car down while its being done. Especially when I have no other transportation. Andrew Geeting [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Your blower motor probably just needed oil, though running it that way for a year doesn't help the bearings. A new bearing and maybe brushes would have probably fixed your old alternator. Bruce (drilled a blower motor oil hole) Roe 5 Nov 06 Andrew Geeting <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Re: To Sell or Not(car theft)
TRUE -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca Sent: Thu, 2 Nov 2006 7:47 AM Subject: Re: To Sell or Not(car theft) In a message dated 11/1/2006 6:16:16 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Also gang...on the newer cars..watch those electronic key fobs we use to open our cars doors now. What happens alot is you lock your car at home in the driveway..and as you move about the housesometimes you unlock the car without knowing. Like when you hear people hit their alarm buttons on the key fobs all the time. Well, the same thing happens with the locks on your car. Then presto..some kids wait till night and just try the door handles on cars...presto..doors open. Interestingly, the Caddy STS uses no key. To open it (with the fob in your pocket) you grab the handle. It opens. When you leave the car, no need to lock it. Walk away and it automatically locks. Allegedly, (according to High Point Insurance) "the transponder on the Caddy STS is the most sophisticated system available on any American car. With it's rolling code, it is virtually impossible to start the car without a key." Of course, a flat bed truck nullifies that statement. Bruce 72 Cutlass Conv 56 MB 190 SL Conv Check out the new AOL. Most comprehensive set of free safety and security tools, free access to millions of high-quality videos from across the web, free AOL Mail and more.
radio application?
That's cool. Those were pretty decent radios, and still can be when maintained (replace polarized caps and speakers). Of course they don't have todays' features, but they are a lot more repairable. No radio built today will be operational in 4 decades (and probably not the car either). Bruce Roe 5 Nov 2006 John Lee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > That would be a 1969 big-body Olds radio, 88 and 98... > probably a 98, the wonderbars were pretty high-class. > Not stereo, but it at least has a rear speaker. > > I have a couple and, when I send them off to be fixed, > the dude is going to move the transistor and its heatsink > from the driver's side of the radio, and the transformer > from the right, and relocate them onto the back of the > unit, thus enabling it to fit into a A-body's dash (at > least a 67 A-body.) > > John
1998 Intrigue GL noises
Your blower motor probably just needed oil, though running it that way for a year doesn't help the bearings. A new bearing and maybe brushes would have probably fixed your old alternator. Bruce (drilled a blower motor oil hole) Roe 5 Nov 06 Andrew Geeting <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Thanks everyone for the help. I went up to Autozone > today and bought a new serpentine belt. While I was > there, I asked the guy if he could get an alternator down > and let me hear what it sounds like when it spins. > > He gets one down and spins it. It didn't make one full > revolution before I said, "I better take it, because mine > doesn't sound like that". LOL > > Installed the new alternator and belt, fired it up and > bingo. No more noise. Very Happy > > Now that I had that taken care of and was taking the > old alternator back in for my core charge, the blower > motor was getting on my nerves. Its been making a > nonstop squeaking noise for a year now
Fwd: RE: TK91014 Your recent email to eBay's Trust and Safety Department. (KMM233503467V56636L0KM)
Below is Ebays response to the 70 Olds 442 convert auction that was an obvious scam. --- eBay Customer Support <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Date: Sun, 05 Nov 2006 14:17:45 -0800 > To: Kerry Doyle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: RE: TK91014 Your recent email to eBay's > Trust and Safety Department. > (KMM233503467V56636L0KM) > From: eBay Customer Support <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Dear Kerry, > > Thank you for writing eBay in regard to > Item#180044882265 and the > account it was listed from. > > The items recently listed with this account were the > result of an > unauthorized account takeover. We were not aware of > this activity until > after the listings appeared on the site. > > As soon as we became aware that an unauthorized > person took over this > account, we reacted immediately to resolve the > problem. We are currently > in the process of restoring the account to its true > owner. > > There are a number of possible ways this account > takeover might have > occurred: > - The seller may have had a simple password or > password hint question > that someone could easily guess. > - A computer virus that logs and records keystrokes > may have detected > the password. > - The seller could have unknowingly revealed the > password to another > party. > > I appreciate your interest in the well being of our > site. It is assuring > to know that we have members who are concerned about > the safety of our > other users. I encourage you to continue to report > all questionable > behavior to eBay. This will give us the chance to > look into the > situation and take action where warranted. > > Thank you for your time. > > Sincerely, > Katen > > eBay Customer Support > _ > > Whether you're new to eBay or an experienced buyer > and seller, the eBay > Security & Resolution Center can help you protect > yourself on eBay and > online. For more information, please click the > "Security Center" link at > the bottom of most eBay pages. > _ > > For our latest announcements, please check: > > http://www2.ebay.com/aw/announce.shtml > _ > > > > > Original Message Follows: > - > > From: Kerry Doyle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: eBay Customer Support <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: GS%T00030 Site issue (Registration and > account information) [ > 05022T ?01 ] > > Form Message %33423% 081999 > D_ID102920062102D_ID/W_ID86318733W_ID/S_ID000S_ID > Subject: GS%T00030 Site issue (Registration and > account information) [ > 05022T ?01 ] > > User Feedback: 232 > User State: ?01 > > Browser Info: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; > Windows NT 5.1; YPC > 3.0.1; SV1; .NET CLR 1.1.4322) > > Home > Help > Contact Us > Technical Issues > > Registration and Account > Information > Issue Details > > Error Message: > This seller is a fraud. BIN is 1/4 real value. > Another Nigerian Send me > the money Western Union!!! > EBAY has many many scam auctions for cars. You are > doing a TErrible job > of policing the scams! This is getting worse every > month! If everyone > else can see the scams why cant YOU! > Kerry > (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1970-Oldsmobile-442 > Convertible_W0QQitemZ180044882265) > > > Message: EBAY needs to stop posting this barrage of > scam auction for > cars. It is rediculous that ther asr so many scam > auction for cars. > (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1970-Oldsmobile-442 > Convertible_W0QQitemZ180044882265) > > > >
Re: radio application?
That would be a 1969 big-body Olds radio, 88 and 98...probably a 98, the wonderbars were pretty high-class. Not stereo, but it at least has a rear speaker. I have a couple and, when I send them off to be fixed, the dude is going to move the transistor and its heatsink from the driver's side of the radio, and the transformer from the right, and relocate them onto the back of the unit, thus enabling it to fit into a A-body's dash (at least a 67 A-body.) -John. MSRobson wrote: Can anyone tell me what this is from: AM/FM Wonderbar radio, one piece, Service Model Number: 93BFW2 Serial Number: 3W-06964 Product No.: 7307313 Thanks, Mark
radio application?
Can anyone tell me what this is from: AM/FM Wonderbar radio, one piece, Service Model Number: 93BFW2 Serial Number: 3W-06964 Product No.: 7307313 Thanks, Mark
Re: 1998 Intrigue GL noises
Thanks everyone for the help. I went up to Autozone today and bought a new serpentine belt. While I was there, I asked the guy if he could get an alternator down and let me hear what it sounds like when it spins. He gets one down and spins it. It didn't make one full revolution before I said, "I better take it, because mine doesn't sound like that". LOL Installed the new alternator and belt, fired it up and bingo. No more noise. Very Happy Now that I had that taken care of and was taking the old alternator back in for my core charge, the blower motor was getting on my nerves. Its been making a nonstop squeaking noise for a year now and I've just ignored it. So I bought a new blower motor and installed it and now the car almost feels and sounds as good as it was when it was brand new. Just need to get a new hood for it (thanks to a deer) and new fog lights and it will be brand new. Thanks again, Andrew Geeting [EMAIL PROTECTED]
thoughts on fuel economy
I'm waiting for a motorcycle with a very small turbo diesel, 400 miles per gallon. Bruce Roe 5 Nov 2006 "Christopher Witt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > From: Joe Vahabzadeh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: OT: thoughts on fuel economy > > Okay, I meant to ask something about this before, but kept putting > it > off > > A recent Hot Rod magazine (Nov 06) had a little blurb on the bottom > of p30 > that said "100 MPG is yesterday's news", and mentioned the 1982 > result of > Project Saturn, which was a 2-seater economy car, 3 cylinder, 5 > speed, that > averaged 105 MPG on the highway and 75 MPG in the city (on a trip > from > Warren, Michigan, to New York).
RE: thoughts on fuel economy
This subject hits a nerve with me... http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-992194168790800&q=water+car This is not a hoax. It is fact. 67 Olds From: Joe Vahabzadeh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: OT: thoughts on fuel economy A recent Hot Rod magazine (Nov 06) had a little blurb on the bottom of p30 that said "100 MPG is yesterday's news", and mentioned the 1982 result of Project Saturn, which was a 2-seater economy car, 3 cylinder, 5 speed, that averaged 105 MPG on the highway and 75 MPG in the city (on a trip from Warren, Michigan, to New York). The last sentence: "Since meeting federal safety requirements and adding creature comforts would have added 200 pounds to the car and required extra horsepower to propel it, GM dropped the program." == A car can run on an engine the size of a medium lawnmower. However, it will not have much acceleration. Be like driving my Jeep. Only with good fuel economy. Many cars get great mileage. VW Diesels got around 50 mpg, with sluggish acceleration. My 45 in^3 motorcycle never got near that mileage on gasoline. A guy down the road here has a NMG car he commutes with "No More Gas" funky looking 3-wheeled electric car, goes 70 on the hiway All electric, requires 220V ckt to recharge. Employer lets him charge at work for free. Google NMG car to find out more. And, of course, my further question: If they could do that with the technology available in 1982, where's the 100 MPG car of today? === Apparently $2.2x a gallon is not enough to get folks to give up their Huge SUV's When even the rich folks feel the squeeze, then folks will buy small sluggish cars. Too many rich folks yet. --- Chris Witt *the* Rocket Scientist 1303 W. Miller Rd. Lansing MI 48911 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cell 517-449-0432 weekends or short weekday calls or leave message. Home 517-882-9747 thru 10-11pm MI time most days _ All-in-one security and maintenance for your PC. Get a free 90-day trial! http://clk.atdmt.com/MSN/go/msnnkwlo005002msn/direct/01/?href=http://www .windowsonecare.com/?sc_cid=msn_hotmail -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.13.28/518 - Release Date: 11/4/2006
Security galore
Date: Wed, 1 Nov 2006 17:05:38 EST From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: To Sell or Not(car theft) Also gang...on the newer cars..watch those electronic key fobs we use to open our cars doors now. What happens alot is you lock your car at home in the driveway..and as you move about the housesometimes you unlock the car without knowing. Like when you hear people hit their alarm buttons on the key fobs all the time. Well, the same thing happens with the locks on your car. Then presto..some kids wait till night and just try the door handles on cars...presto..doors open. Harry Mager HotRodHarrys.com. Huh I guess Lansing is not THAT big of a city yet I hear that there are a half dozen stolen vehicle reports per day though. When I grew up, the folks at the farm NEVER locked the door exc. maybe at night. The keys were in the truck. If the house was empty, make yerself at home, folks are probably at the store, be right back. Today, Rocky sits in the driveway unlocked. The garage is always unlocked, unless we are away on vacation. The alarm and the dog take care of what security we need. The jeep cannot be locked, I am not sure I have a key for it. It starts w/o a key. Been that way since I got it. No such luck that someone would steal that POS. The family van rarely gets locked. no point in locking a convertible, now, is there? Get you a slit top, if the top is up. I used to leave the key in my truck when I was younger. Really, if folks would behave, we would not not need keys for anything, ever. If it ain't yours, leave it alone. --- Chris Witt *the* Rocket Scientist _ Use your PC to make calls at very low rates https://voiceoam.pcs.v2s.live.com/partnerredirect.aspx
OT: thoughts on fuel economy
From: Joe Vahabzadeh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: OT: thoughts on fuel economy Okay, I meant to ask something about this before, but kept putting it off A recent Hot Rod magazine (Nov 06) had a little blurb on the bottom of p30 that said "100 MPG is yesterday's news", and mentioned the 1982 result of Project Saturn, which was a 2-seater economy car, 3 cylinder, 5 speed, that averaged 105 MPG on the highway and 75 MPG in the city (on a trip from Warren, Michigan, to New York). The last sentence: "Since meeting federal safety requirements and adding creature comforts would have added 200 pounds to the car and required extra horsepower to propel it, GM dropped the program." == A car can run on an engine the size of a medium lawnmower. However, it will not have much acceleration. Be like driving my Jeep. Only with good fuel economy. Many cars get great mileage. VW Diesels got around 50 mpg, with sluggish acceleration. My 45 in^3 motorcycle never got near that mileage on gasoline. A guy down the road here has a NMG car he commutes with "No More Gas" funky looking 3-wheeled electric car, goes 70 on the hiway All electric, requires 220V ckt to recharge. Employer lets him charge at work for free. Google NMG car to find out more. And, of course, my further question: If they could do that with the technology available in 1982, where's the 100 MPG car of today? === Apparently $2.2x a gallon is not enough to get folks to give up their Huge SUV's When even the rich folks feel the squeeze, then folks will buy small sluggish cars. Too many rich folks yet. --- Chris Witt *the* Rocket Scientist 1303 W. Miller Rd. Lansing MI 48911 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cell 517-449-0432 weekends or short weekday calls or leave message. Home 517-882-9747 thru 10-11pm MI time most days _ All-in-one security and maintenance for your PC. Get a free 90-day trial! http://clk.atdmt.com/MSN/go/msnnkwlo005002msn/direct/01/?href=http://www.windowsonecare.com/?sc_cid=msn_hotmail
GA contact to go see the 69/70 Cutlass?
Who's near Hortense GA that can go see the 70 with a 69 title? Perhaps I just ask their local Sherriff to drop by over there to ck in on the car? --- Chris Witt *the* Rocket Scientist 1303 W. Miller Rd. Lansing MI 48911 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cell 517-449-0432 weekends or short weekday calls or leave message. Home 517-882-9747 thru 10-11pm MI time most days _ Get FREE company branded e-mail accounts and business Web site from Microsoft Office Live http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/mcrssaub0050001411mrt/direct/01/
