[OmniOS-discuss] User/group with CIFS

2015-08-02 Thread Olaf Marzocchi

Hello,
in my server (latest stable release) I use netatalk to share files with 
OS X and I use CIFS (kernel) for Windows.
I never noticed until now that the files made by the two operating 
systems have mismatching and incompatible permissions. This prevents me 
from modifying or deleting under an operating system the files created 
with the other one.


For example:

-rw-r--r--   1 olaf olaf 469 Aug  2 17:12 scaletta.txt
 owner@:rw-p--aARWcCos:---:allow
 group@:r-a-R-c--s:---:allow
  everyone@:r-a-R-c--s:---:allow
-rwx--+  1 olaf olaf 469 Aug  2 17:12 scaletta2.txt
  user:olaf:rwxpdDaARWcCos:---:allow
   group:2147483648:rwxpdDaARWcCos:---:allow

The first one was generated by netatalk and correctly shows the 
permissions according to the user/group I used to login, it also 
inherited extended ACL according to the parent folder.
The second file was created by Windows 8.1, when connected to my server 
using SERVER@username as login (to be sure I am logging in with a user 
local to the server), and added strange ACL: user:olaf/group:2147483648


The server is not connected to any AD and I am using a normal workgroup 
setup.


Where can I find some info to understand the issue? is there something 
obvious I missed? in my configuration?


Thanks!
Olaf Marzocchi
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Re: [OmniOS-discuss] User/group with CIFS

2015-08-02 Thread Guenther Alka
Netatalk and Solaris CIFS are incompatible regarding permissions in an 
AD environment or regarding groups.


One problem hides in the + of
-rwx--+  1 olaf olaf 469 Aug  2 17:12 scaletta2.txt

This means that there are ACLs defined.
While netatalk uses classic Unix permissions (owner/group/everyone), 
Solaris CIFS works like Windows what means: It uses ACL only, uses 
Windows SID in AD environments and Windows SMB groups instead of Unix 
groups.


The group:2147483648 is an SMB group that is unknown to netatalk while 
the group olaf is a Unix group that is unknown to Solaris CIFS.


Your options are:
1.
Avoid netatalk as it is dead and always a source of problemws. Apple 
switched to  SMB so this is the future. (This is what I did). Currently 
you have the Problem that Illumos lacks SMB2 and OSX is slow with SMB1.


Hope that this will come in the near future to OmniOS as it is in 
NexentaStor and Solaris 11.3.

First tests on Solaris show that smb is there as fast as AFP.

2.
Avoid AD,  groups and set permissions on Windows only for users or use 
id mapping

This is a workaround

3.
Use SAMBA as it rely on Unix permissions as well
(For what I use SMB, Solaris CIFS is superieur, so an option that I 
would avoid)


my tip is 1.


Gea



Am 02.08.2015 17:39, schrieb Olaf Marzocchi:

Hello,
in my server (latest stable release) I use netatalk to share files 
with OS X and I use CIFS (kernel) for Windows.
I never noticed until now that the files made by the two operating 
systems have mismatching and incompatible permissions. This prevents 
me from modifying or deleting under an operating system the files 
created with the other one.


For example:

-rw-r--r--   1 olaf olaf 469 Aug  2 17:12 scaletta.txt
 owner@:rw-p--aARWcCos:---:allow
 group@:r-a-R-c--s:---:allow
  everyone@:r-a-R-c--s:---:allow
-rwx--+  1 olaf olaf 469 Aug  2 17:12 scaletta2.txt
  user:olaf:rwxpdDaARWcCos:---:allow
   group:2147483648:rwxpdDaARWcCos:---:allow

The first one was generated by netatalk and correctly shows the 
permissions according to the user/group I used to login, it also 
inherited extended ACL according to the parent folder.
The second file was created by Windows 8.1, when connected to my 
server using SERVER@username as login (to be sure I am logging in with 
a user local to the server), and added strange ACL: 
user:olaf/group:2147483648


The server is not connected to any AD and I am using a normal 
workgroup setup.


Where can I find some info to understand the issue? is there something 
obvious I missed? in my configuration?


Thanks!
Olaf Marzocchi
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