Re: [OmniOS-discuss] best or preferred 10g card for OmniOS

2015-03-29 Thread Doug Hughes



On 3/29/2015 9:51 AM, Matthew Lagoe wrote:

The intel cards are nice but they don't have any cx4 cards so we don't use
them. Copper connections have less latency on short links then fiber as you
don't have the electric to optical conversion (when done properly)

Do yourself a huge favor and go to the SFP+ direct attach stuff. Longer 
lengths, thinner cables, better cables, etc. The switches are becoming 
really inexpensive.


(I ordered  pair of the Intel X520 DA2 cards from all of the 
recommendations here. I should have them tomorrow)


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Re: [OmniOS-discuss] best or preferred 10g card for OmniOS

2015-03-29 Thread Schweiss, Chip
On Sun, Mar 29, 2015 at 8:51 AM, Matthew Lagoe matthew.la...@subrigo.net
wrote:

 The intel cards are nice but they don't have any cx4 cards so we don't use
 them. Copper connections have less latency on short links then fiber as you
 don't have the electric to optical conversion (when done properly)


On short links ( 20M) twin-ax copper SFP+ are much more economical and
lower latency than optics.   I would only use optics and fiber if I have
long runs.

-Chip


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  On Mar 26, 2015, at 9:24 AM, Doug Hughes d...@will.to wrote:
 
  any recommendations? We're having some pretty big problems with the
 Solarflare card and driver dropping network under high load. We eliminated
 LACP as a culprit, and the switch.
 
  Intel? Chelsio? other?

 I've been running exclusively Intel for several years now. It gets the most
 attention in the illumos community.

  -- richard


 
  - Doug
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Re: [OmniOS-discuss] best or preferred 10g card for OmniOS

2015-03-29 Thread Matthew Lagoe
The intel cards are nice but they don't have any cx4 cards so we don't use
them. Copper connections have less latency on short links then fiber as you
don't have the electric to optical conversion (when done properly)

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Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2015 07:40 AM
To: Doug Hughes
Cc: omnios-discuss
Subject: Re: [OmniOS-discuss] best or preferred 10g card for OmniOS


 On Mar 26, 2015, at 9:24 AM, Doug Hughes d...@will.to wrote:
 
 any recommendations? We're having some pretty big problems with the
Solarflare card and driver dropping network under high load. We eliminated
LACP as a culprit, and the switch.
 
 Intel? Chelsio? other?

I've been running exclusively Intel for several years now. It gets the most
attention in the illumos community.

 -- richard


 
 - Doug
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Re: [OmniOS-discuss] best or preferred 10g card for OmniOS

2015-03-26 Thread Stephan Budach

Am 27.03.15 um 01:05 schrieb Phil Harman:
SFPs? Are you know kidding me? For my home lab I bought a pair of 
X540-T2 cards, which will even run over Cat5 for about a metre. They 
use a lot more power than SFP though :)


He he… 1m doesn't buy you much in a server room, so we're using almost 
only 540-T2 over Cat6 and we never had a problem under Solaris or OmniOS.
I'd always choose the Intel 10GbEs over all other brands. I've had 
horrible issues with Broadcom-based NICs in my Dells and they will have 
to prove their reliability to a load of other people first, before I 
will even consider, buying those again… but, I guess so will other do as 
well. ;)




No issues at all with illumos or VMware.

On 26 Mar 2015, at 16:45, Jeff Stockett jstock...@molalla.com 
mailto:jstock...@molalla.com wrote:


I would concur with what Chip said.  We’ve had good luck with the 
Intel X520s setup with LACP to a Nexus 5000 – and also have a few 
X540s.  The X520s are a bit picky about SFPs but Appoved makes one 
that works and is reasonably affordable.


*From:*OmniOS-discuss 
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*Subject:* [OmniOS-discuss] best or preferred 10g card for OmniOS

any recommendations? We're having some pretty big problems with the 
Solarflare card and driver dropping network under high load. We 
eliminated LACP as a culprit, and the switch.


Intel? Chelsio? other?

- Doug

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Re: [OmniOS-discuss] best or preferred 10g card for OmniOS

2015-03-26 Thread Jeff Stockett
I would concur with what Chip said.  We’ve had good luck with the Intel X520s 
setup with LACP to a Nexus 5000 – and also have a few X540s.  The X520s are a 
bit picky about SFPs but Appoved makes one that works and is reasonably 
affordable.

From: OmniOS-discuss [mailto:omnios-discuss-boun...@lists.omniti.com] On Behalf 
Of Doug Hughes
Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2015 9:25 AM
To: omnios-discuss
Subject: [OmniOS-discuss] best or preferred 10g card for OmniOS

any recommendations? We're having some pretty big problems with the Solarflare 
card and driver dropping network under high load. We eliminated LACP as a 
culprit, and the switch.

Intel? Chelsio? other?

- Doug
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Re: [OmniOS-discuss] best or preferred 10g card for OmniOS

2015-03-26 Thread Greg Mason
On Mar 26, 2015, at 12:24 PM, Doug Hughes d...@will.to wrote:
 
 any recommendations? We're having some pretty big problems with the 
 Solarflare card and driver dropping network under high load. We eliminated 
 LACP as a culprit, and the switch.
 
 Intel? Chelsio? other?

I’ve had a pretty good experience with the Intel X520 cards, not really much I 
can complain about.

-Greg
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Re: [OmniOS-discuss] best or preferred 10g card for OmniOS

2015-03-26 Thread Dan McDonald
Generally speaking the Intel ones are preferable, because Intel does the best 
job of keeping those drivers up to date for all open-source platforms.

Just pushed into illumos, and coming soon to r151014 is OPEN-SOURCE support for 
Broadcom NetXtreme II (now owned by QLogic) 10GigE  (the bnxe driver).  It's 
not nearly as good as Intel's code, or likely Intel's HW, but now that it is 
open-source, it becomes a viable alternative, because people can now fix the 
driver if there is a problem.

I'd still use Intel 10Gig where possible, but if you're stuck on HW with 
formerly-Broadcom 10GigE, your luck will be improving somewhat.

Dan

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[OmniOS-discuss] best or preferred 10g card for OmniOS

2015-03-26 Thread Doug Hughes
any recommendations? We're having some pretty big problems with the Solarflare 
card and driver dropping network under high load. We eliminated LACP as a 
culprit, and the switch.

Intel? Chelsio? other?

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Re: [OmniOS-discuss] best or preferred 10g card for OmniOS

2015-03-26 Thread Doug Hughes
Thanks guys! (also, if anybody has some advice or contrary experience with
SolarFlare (5162), I'd love to hear it. Right now they are pretty much
unusable under load, though iperf tends to work fine.



On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 12:36 PM, Schweiss, Chip c...@innovates.com wrote:

 The Intel X520's  and the Supermicro equivalents  are rock solid.   The
 X540 probably is too, I just haven't used it.  I prefer the Supermicro
 branded Intel cards because the firmware is not as picky about the twin-ax
 cables used.

 -Chip

 On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 11:24 AM, Doug Hughes d...@will.to wrote:

 any recommendations? We're having some pretty big problems with the
 Solarflare card and driver dropping network under high load. We eliminated
 LACP as a culprit, and the switch.

 Intel? Chelsio? other?

 - Doug
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Re: [OmniOS-discuss] best or preferred 10g card for OmniOS

2015-03-26 Thread Phil Harman
SFPs? Are you know kidding me? For my home lab I bought a pair of X540-T2 
cards, which will even run over Cat5 for about a metre. They use a lot more 
power than SFP though :)

No issues at all with illumos or VMware.

 On 26 Mar 2015, at 16:45, Jeff Stockett jstock...@molalla.com wrote:
 
 I would concur with what Chip said.  We’ve had good luck with the Intel X520s 
 setup with LACP to a Nexus 5000 – and also have a few X540s.  The X520s are a 
 bit picky about SFPs but Appoved makes one that works and is reasonably 
 affordable.
  
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 Behalf Of Doug Hughes
 Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2015 9:25 AM
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 Subject: [OmniOS-discuss] best or preferred 10g card for OmniOS
  
 any recommendations? We're having some pretty big problems with the 
 Solarflare card and driver dropping network under high load. We eliminated 
 LACP as a culprit, and the switch.
 
 Intel? Chelsio? other?
 
 - Doug
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Re: [OmniOS-discuss] best or preferred 10g card for OmniOS

2015-03-26 Thread Matthew Lagoe
I use the myricom 10g cards (myri10g) they work just fine.

 

From: OmniOS-discuss [mailto:omnios-discuss-boun...@lists.omniti.com] On Behalf 
Of Doug Hughes
Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2015 09:25 AM
To: omnios-discuss
Subject: [OmniOS-discuss] best or preferred 10g card for OmniOS

 

any recommendations? We're having some pretty big problems with the Solarflare 
card and driver dropping network under high load. We eliminated LACP as a 
culprit, and the switch.

Intel? Chelsio? other?

- Doug

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