Sopa

[Louis Suárez-Potts]

For many it's already 18 January, the day thousands if not millions of
websites will go dark in protest of the US legislation SOPA and PIPA,
which purport to fight piracy but as even casual analysis shows end up
doing a lot more censorious damage than claimed.

As Apache OpenOffice is part of Apache, and as we routinely work here,
regardless of time or day, holiday or not, I'm curious how we are
dealing with the protest.

I should hope that Apache would go dark for the 24 hours. Checking the
site now--it's 22:17 EST (-0500), I see no difference.

If it is the case then that Apache has chosen not to go dark--and
there may have been notice one way or another that I missed--then I
suppose it is up to individuals to follow their conscience. I presume
that this podling, as part of Apache, lacks the autonomy to darken its
own sub-website, should the consensus be in favour of it.

For individuals who do wish to respect the protest action, there is
some code one can use which I can share.

-louis

Re: PROPOSAL (was Re: Category-B tarballs in SVN )

[Pedro Giffuni]

--- Lun 16/1/12, Rob Weir ha scritto:
...
> > the the Apache licensing policies:
> >
> > http://www.apache.org/legal/3party.html
> >
> 
> That URL is for an earlier draft of the policy.  You
> really should be
> referencing the latest version of the policy here:
> 
> http://www.apache.org/legal/resolved.html#category-b
>

I have looked at this and indeed this appears to be
the definitive policy (the previous one was being
revised every 6 months and gave lighter provisions
for podlings). The definitive policy is much less
clear than the draft but certainly doesn't seem
to contradict it.

Still there is no distinction between source packages
and binary packages and it seems the principles in the
draft still apply.

Pedro.

RE: Double dictionaries for languages

[Dennis E. Hamilton]

If they've registered a separate language code for one or the other, that 
should be the answer.  Also, is the agreement just with respect to pt-PT or 
does it apply to pt-BR, etc.?

Both dictionaries could be added to the same OXT, just as is done for en-*, but 
somehow the user has to have a way to choose the appropriate one for a given 
circumstance.  

Who knows whether the agreement includes identifiers for use in handling 
electronic documents and dictionaries?

Or has pre-agreement been declared obsolete?

 - Dennis

-Original Message-
From: Andrea Pescetti [mailto:pesce...@apache.org] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2012 14:40
To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: Double dictionaries for languages

On 07/01/2012 Marco A.G.Pinto wrote:
> Portuguese has suffered a language agreement and now there are two kinds
> of my language:
> - pre-agreement
> - post-agreement...
> The language is still the same and just the dictionary is changed.
> Could this be implemented into AOO?

I think (but I haven't checked with a recent build, and I'm not 100% 
sure) that multiple dictionaries for the same language are supported and 
are merged (i.e., if you enable both an "old spelling" and a "new 
spelling" dictionary, words of either dictionary will be accepted).

As for switching between dictionaries, the easiest way I see is 
installing separate extensions: there is no suitable user interface yet, 
unfortunately.

There's always the hack of defining two separate locales and assigning 
one to the "old spelling" and one to the "new spelling" to change them 
in real time like American English and British English, but forcing this 
configuration would break interoperability.

Regards,
   Andrea.

RE: Resolving MS Word Binary File Format

[Dennis E. Hamilton]

I just downloaded the complete 70MB Zip of the complete set from the first link 
on this page: .

The [MS-DOC].pdf is over 600 pages.  So it is not a treat to implement from 
scratch, especially with figuring out how to map into/from the OpenOffice.org 
model.  Having the code of an existing converter would provide something to gut 
for structure and maybe even to morph rather than do from scratch.  (There are 
also related documents that need to be consulted for specialized aspects that 
are common across the Microsoft Office programs.)

Based on the quality that I found in the RTF specification, I suspect there is 
more than enough to base an implementation on, but that is a superficial 
appraisal of this document.

There is also code that works with these formats (e.g., Apache Poi) and there 
may be other converters that can be consulted.  I thought there was a relevant 
SourceForge project, but Poi may be more current and active.

Consultation of the specifications for OOXML might also be helpful, since there 
is considerable semantic harmony between those and the binaries, at least to a 
point.

No implementation can be done that is not test-driven and in particular heavily 
tested with documents in and out of the Microsoft Office products.  

 - Dennis

-Original Message-
From: Andrea Pescetti [mailto:pesce...@apache.org] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2012 14:50
To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: Resolving MS Word Binary File Format

On 09/01/2012 Liang Weike wrote:
> I'm making an investigation of OpenOffice processing the documents of MS
> Office's binary file formats. ...
> So, has OpenOffice improved the flow and construction of resolving MS
> Office's binary file formats after MS offered the specification?

As far as I know, no substantial rewriting of the filters for
doc/xls/ppt files happened after Microsoft released the specification:
I've seen several incremental improvements over the years, but never a
complete rewrite.

I don't actually know if Microsoft released the specification in a form
that would make it easy to write an import filter from scratch.

Regards,
  Andrea.

Next step: fonts

[Pedro Giffuni]

Ugh.. I am really delayed reading my email and I haven't
been able to advance much on the coding side.. so I will
take break from that and do something useful ;-).

Still, as we get nearer to a release I won't risk huge
changes.

According to my reading of the third-party policies I
think we can bring in some OFL fonts. The JIRA issue
for that apparently hasn't been solved but ultimately
we can always revert this rather easily.

I will take a stab at bringing back the Gentium font
and I will bring in the ChromeOS fonts that will
replace the Liberation fonts we used to carry.

I am not sure yet how the metric information of those
is handled but we'll see ;-).

Pedro.

Re: www.openoffice-forum.de <- Spam-Forum

[drew]

On Tue, 2012-01-17 at 22:33 +0100, Guenter Mehle wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> 2012/1/17, Rob Weir :
> > On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 9:58 AM, drew  wrote:
> >> On Tue, 2012-01-17 at 13:51 +0100, Guenter Mehle wrote:
> >
> >> Two things -
> >>
> >> First, I would think there are multiple edits for that page.
> >>
> >> Remove links for:
> >> www.ooo-portal.de
> >> www.openoffice-forum.de
> >> and
> >> forum.sun.com
> >>
> >
> > I don't think we should remove links merely because they have some
> > spam in their forums.  Spam is a problem we all need to deal with.
> 
> There is the suspicion that the owner of this forum
> a personal interest in the Spam has.
> I would not like to say more to it.
> 
> In respectable forums one deletes Spam. In this forum not,
> anyhow not going around.
> It is not OK that Spam is only deleted after one, two, three or more weeks.
> 
> 
> If the owner of this forum would have volunteers/admins
> these could delete the Spam.
> These do not cost anything
> 
> but he would not like to have volunteers / admins.
> If the owner of this forum would want., he could get it.
> 
Hi Guenter, Rob, et al

Well, in the case of the first site:
www.ooo-portal.de

I think this should be removed not for any spam but because the operator
removed, TTBOMK, the forum with he opened the new site lo-portal.de, so
really there is no good reason to list it on this page any longer.

In the case of the second listed site:
www.openoffice-forum.de

I would think this site should be removed for somewhat the same reason.
The owners have since opened a LibreOffice specific site and I kind of
think this site is being left behind - Guenter is not the first person
to bring up problems at the site, only the first one to do so on this
list. 

The third site:
forum.sun.com - well that is just gone..so easy call there :)

Anyway, just my opinion and I would certainly defer to folks in German
speaking lands on what finally to do.

Best wishes,

//drew

Re: Resolving MS Word Binary File Format

[Dave Fisher]

On Jan 17, 2012, at 2:50 PM, Andrea Pescetti wrote:

> On 09/01/2012 Liang Weike wrote:
>> I'm making an investigation of OpenOffice processing the documents of MS
>> Office's binary file formats. ...
>> So, has OpenOffice improved the flow and construction of resolving MS
>> Office's binary file formats after MS offered the specification?
> 
> As far as I know, no substantial rewriting of the filters for
> doc/xls/ppt files happened after Microsoft released the specification:
> I've seen several incremental improvements over the years, but never a
> complete rewrite.
> 
> I don't actually know if Microsoft released the specification in a form
> that would make it easy to write an import filter from scratch.

If you want to use Java then you might take a look at Apache POI. It will at 
least give you ideas and the synergy back if AOO is further along with 
something would be great as well.

Regards,
Dave


> 
> Regards,
>  Andrea.

Re: Website Help

[kay.schenk]

On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 10:34 AM, Rob Weir  wrote:

> On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 12:30 PM, Kay Schenk  wrote:
> > On Mon, Jan 16, 2012 at 11:32 AM, Roman Meisenberg <
> > ro...@silenceproductions.net> wrote:
> >
> >> Hi!
> >>
> >> I just stumbled upon the Help Wanted page on the Apache Wiki. I would
> love
> >> to help out with the website.
> >> I am a web developer and photographer from NYC. How would I go about
> >> getting started on this if you still
> >> require the help?
> >>
> >
> > Hi Roman--
> >
> > Welcome to the Apache OpenOffice.org project!
> >
> > Ah, yes, our Help Wanted page. OK, some clarification. There are actually
> > *two* websites involved in this project -- the project landing page (also
> > called the developer portal) at:
> >
> >  http://incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg/index.html
> >
> > and the "user portal" ( the migrated legacy www.openoffice.org) at:
> >
> > http://www.openoffice.org/
> >
> > As is turns out, we were just discussing how the "Help Wanted" pages is a
> > bit out of date, so what you see there could use some "interpretation" I
> > think.
> >
>
> I think the original  "help wanted" was with respect to the podling
> website:
>
> http://incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg/
>
> It looks like something I would have designed.  That is not a good thing
> ;-)
>
> It could really use some "CSS Love" from someone with a good sense for
> design.
>

Well maybe Roman would like to contribute this "love". ;}

Really, I am not so concerned with "style" on the "Help Wanted" page as
much as "currency" and "completeness". A LOT has happened since this page
was created. Yes, it needs some more/different elaboration at this point.


> > This said, we just got the legacy site migrated the last week in
> December.
> > I don't think we're ready for any large scale design changes at the
> moment
> > -- but we are in need of some sitewide edits for the user portal site
> with
> > respect to the palce of the user portal site in the Apache Foundation vs
> > the "independent" OpenOffice.org entity.
> >
> > This said,  please feel free to take a look at anything you see on the
> > "user portal" site -- http:www.openoffice.org -- and suggest changes or,
> > given your current "contributor" role, submit patches, to areas.
> >
> > And again, welcome to the project!
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >> Thanks so much!
> >>
> >> --
> >> Roman Meisenberg
> >> p. 213.53.ROMAN
> >> f.  763.322.2274
> >> --
> >> silenceproductions.net
> >> ro...@silenceproductions.net
> >> --
> >> New York, NY
> >> Miami, FL
> >> Los Angeles, CA
> >>
> >> Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail.
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> >
> 
> > MzK
> >
> > "Follow your bliss."
> > -- attributed to Joseph Campbell
>



-- 

MzK

"Follow your bliss."
 -- attributed to Joseph Campbell

Re: Resolving MS Word Binary File Format

[Andrea Pescetti]

On 09/01/2012 Liang Weike wrote:
> I'm making an investigation of OpenOffice processing the documents of MS
> Office's binary file formats. ...
> So, has OpenOffice improved the flow and construction of resolving MS
> Office's binary file formats after MS offered the specification?

As far as I know, no substantial rewriting of the filters for
doc/xls/ppt files happened after Microsoft released the specification:
I've seen several incremental improvements over the years, but never a
complete rewrite.

I don't actually know if Microsoft released the specification in a form
that would make it easy to write an import filter from scratch.

Regards,
  Andrea.

Re: Double dictionaries for languages

[Andrea Pescetti]

On 07/01/2012 Marco A.G.Pinto wrote:

Portuguese has suffered a language agreement and now there are two kinds
of my language:
- pre-agreement
- post-agreement...
The language is still the same and just the dictionary is changed.
Could this be implemented into AOO?


I think (but I haven't checked with a recent build, and I'm not 100% 
sure) that multiple dictionaries for the same language are supported and 
are merged (i.e., if you enable both an "old spelling" and a "new 
spelling" dictionary, words of either dictionary will be accepted).


As for switching between dictionaries, the easiest way I see is 
installing separate extensions: there is no suitable user interface yet, 
unfortunately.


There's always the hack of defining two separate locales and assigning 
one to the "old spelling" and one to the "new spelling" to change them 
in real time like American English and British English, but forcing this 
configuration would break interoperability.


Regards,
  Andrea.

Re: [RELEASE]: help wanted to define default dictionaries for languages

[RGB ES]

2012/1/17 Ariel Constenla-Haile 

>
> For testing, I took all the dicts and made an extension for the 20
> countries, every country has its own spelling dict, and all share the
> hyphen and thes dicts:
>
> http://people.apache.org/~arielch/packages/Spell-Hyphen-Thes-es_ALL.oxt
>
> It seems that the file dictionaries.xcu is missing from the extension... :)

Re: www.openoffice-forum.de <- Spam-Forum

[Guenter Mehle]

Hi,

2012/1/17, Rob Weir :
> On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 9:58 AM, drew  wrote:
>> On Tue, 2012-01-17 at 13:51 +0100, Guenter Mehle wrote:
>
>> Two things -
>>
>> First, I would think there are multiple edits for that page.
>>
>> Remove links for:
>> www.ooo-portal.de
>> www.openoffice-forum.de
>> and
>> forum.sun.com
>>
>
> I don't think we should remove links merely because they have some
> spam in their forums.  Spam is a problem we all need to deal with.

There is the suspicion that the owner of this forum
a personal interest in the Spam has.
I would not like to say more to it.

In respectable forums one deletes Spam. In this forum not,
anyhow not going around.
It is not OK that Spam is only deleted after one, two, three or more weeks.


If the owner of this forum would have volunteers/admins
these could delete the Spam.
These do not cost anything

but he would not like to have volunteers / admins.
If the owner of this forum would want., he could get it.

Guenter

Re: New feature: Drawing thick lines with line caps

[Pavel Janík]

Armin,

On Jan 17, 2012, at 6:56 PM, Armin Le Grand wrote:

> I have reintegrated the finished feature from the branch to trunk. Kudos go 
> to Regina for the basic implementation and for offering it here.

can you please have a look at the code? This NOT-TO-BE-INTEGRATED change shows 
the WaE issue in vcl:

--- vcl.orig/aqua/source/gdi/salgdi.cxx 2012-01-17 19:51:19.0 +0100
+++ vcl/aqua/source/gdi/salgdi.cxx  2012-01-17 19:52:07.0 +0100
@@ -987,6 +987,7 @@
basegfx::B2DLineJoin eLineJoin,
 com::sun::star::drawing::LineCap eLineCap)
 {
+  (void)eLineCap; // Unused parameter...
// short circuit if there is nothing to do
const int nPointCount = rPolyLine.count();
if( nPointCount <= 0 )

And this one should be integrated:

--- svx.orig/source/xoutdev/xattr2.cxx  2012-01-17 21:21:03.0 +0100
+++ svx/source/xoutdev/xattr2.cxx   2012-01-17 21:28:40.0 +0100
@@ -451,7 +451,7 @@
 || com::sun::star::drawing::LineCap_ROUND == eRetval
 || com::sun::star::drawing::LineCap_SQUARE == eRetval, "Unknown enum 
value in XATTR_LINECAP (!)");
 
-return (com::sun::star::drawing::LineCap)SfxEnumItem::GetValue(); 
+return eRetval; 
 }
 
 //--

-- 
Pavel Janík

Re: [RELEASE]: help wanted to define default dictionaries for languages

[RGB ES]

2012/1/17 Ariel Constenla-Haile 

>
> sure you're facing this problem:
> http://openoffice.org/projects/www/lists/dev/archive/2011-02/message/20
>
> For testing, I took all the dicts and made an extension for the 20
> countries, every country has its own spelling dict, and all share the
> hyphen and thes dicts:
>
> http://people.apache.org/~arielch/packages/Spell-Hyphen-Thes-es_ALL.oxt
>
>
>
Cool! Thanks!

Re: Website Help

[Rob Weir]

On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 12:30 PM, Kay Schenk  wrote:
> On Mon, Jan 16, 2012 at 11:32 AM, Roman Meisenberg <
> ro...@silenceproductions.net> wrote:
>
>> Hi!
>>
>> I just stumbled upon the Help Wanted page on the Apache Wiki. I would love
>> to help out with the website.
>> I am a web developer and photographer from NYC. How would I go about
>> getting started on this if you still
>> require the help?
>>
>
> Hi Roman--
>
> Welcome to the Apache OpenOffice.org project!
>
> Ah, yes, our Help Wanted page. OK, some clarification. There are actually
> *two* websites involved in this project -- the project landing page (also
> called the developer portal) at:
>
>  http://incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg/index.html
>
> and the "user portal" ( the migrated legacy www.openoffice.org) at:
>
> http://www.openoffice.org/
>
> As is turns out, we were just discussing how the "Help Wanted" pages is a
> bit out of date, so what you see there could use some "interpretation" I
> think.
>

I think the original  "help wanted" was with respect to the podling website:

http://incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg/

It looks like something I would have designed.  That is not a good thing ;-)

It could really use some "CSS Love" from someone with a good sense for design.

> This said, we just got the legacy site migrated the last week in December.
> I don't think we're ready for any large scale design changes at the moment
> -- but we are in need of some sitewide edits for the user portal site with
> respect to the palce of the user portal site in the Apache Foundation vs
> the "independent" OpenOffice.org entity.
>
> This said,  please feel free to take a look at anything you see on the
> "user portal" site -- http:www.openoffice.org -- and suggest changes or,
> given your current "contributor" role, submit patches, to areas.
>
> And again, welcome to the project!
>
>
>
>
>> Thanks so much!
>>
>> --
>> Roman Meisenberg
>> p. 213.53.ROMAN
>> f.  763.322.2274
>> --
>> silenceproductions.net
>> ro...@silenceproductions.net
>> --
>> New York, NY
>> Miami, FL
>> Los Angeles, CA
>>
>> Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail.
>>
>
>
>
> --
> 
> MzK
>
> "Follow your bliss."
>         -- attributed to Joseph Campbell

Re: [RELEASE]: help wanted to define default dictionaries for languages

[Ariel Constenla-Haile]

Hi Ricardo,

On Mon, Jan 16, 2012 at 11:43:56PM +0100, RGB ES wrote:
> The Spanish thesaurus and hyphenation patterns can be found here:
> http://openthes-es.berlios.de/
> The spellchecker dictionary can be found here:
> http://forja.rediris.es/frs/?group_id=341&release_id=1000
> but I need to do some tests: I have problems installing it on recent dev
> builds...

sure you're facing this problem:
http://openoffice.org/projects/www/lists/dev/archive/2011-02/message/20

For testing, I took all the dicts and made an extension for the 20
countries, every country has its own spelling dict, and all share the
hyphen and thes dicts:

http://people.apache.org/~arielch/packages/Spell-Hyphen-Thes-es_ALL.oxt


Regards
-- 
Ariel Constenla-Haile
La Plata, Argentina


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Re: [BUILD]: propose new Developer snapshot builds based on revision r1231878

[Ariel Constenla-Haile]

Hi Jürgen,

On Mon, Jan 16, 2012 at 10:37:27AM +0100, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:
> Hi Oliver, Ariel,
> 
> i submitted minor branding relevant changes to get an impression how
> it can look like (nothing 100#% final if decide to change it).
> 
> I would like to propose that we prepare a new set of developer
> snapshots based on this version.
> 
> I have already started to build ...

I've finished building the nl packages, so I update the cwiki page.

> 
> - openofficedev_en-US
> - a multilingual office - openofficedev_en-US_de_fr_es_it_ja_zh-CN_pt-BR

I'm uncertain about the utility of this multilingual install set.
Unfortunately we can't mesure how many downloads we will get, but
I doubt anyone will chose to download ca. 250 MB, I left these for
4 packages (992 mb), I'll start uploading them in a few hours.


Regards
-- 
Ariel Constenla-Haile
La Plata, Argentina


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Re: New feature: Drawing thick lines with line caps

[Armin Le Grand]

Hi all,

I have reintegrated the finished feature from the branch to trunk. Kudos 
go to Regina for the basic implementation and for offering it here.


Sincerely,
Armin
--
ALG

Re: Fw1 [ooo-site] - dwnld-size Mac-version 200MB for 56k-modem or ISDN

[Dave Fisher]

On Jan 17, 2012, at 8:55 AM, eric b wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> 
> Le 17 janv. 12 à 17:28, Dave Fisher a écrit :
> 
>> 
>> On Jan 17, 2012, at 8:17 AM, Christian Lohmaier wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Dave, *,
>>> 
>>> On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 5:03 PM, Dave Fisher  wrote:
 [...]
> Go to http://www.openoffice.org/download/other.html  and select the 
> version and language you need.
> Mac's use different versions for Intel and PPC processors.
 
 There is a German Mac PPC version and when I clicked on it the download 
 did start up.
>>> 
>>> But not the "current" version, but an even older one.
>> 
>> Yes, it is 3.2.1.
>> 
>> Since no PPC Macs are being built I doubt that many more builds will happen 
>> unless someone has that itch to scratch here.
>> 
> 
> I got a PowerPC machine, running Tiger, and I could -accidentaly -  build one 
> developer snapshot.
> 
> Let me several days, and if I can provide one, I'll post on the list.
> 
> Just let me know what locales you need.

If Wilfried is interested in running an unstable developers build then it is 
clear he is looking for German.

I've got an old PPC MacBook that's been gathering dust and I could probably do 
a QA check next week - I'd prefer en-US, but I could check German - aber ich 
verstehe nur ein bisschen. I'll be traveling this week and I already carry two 
laptops...

Regards,
Dave


> 
> 
> Thanks,
> Eric Bachard
> 
> 
> -- 
> qɔᴉɹə
> Projet OOo4Kids : http://wiki.ooo4kids.org/index.php/Main_Page
> L'association EducOOo : http://www.educoo.org
> Blog : http://eric.bachard.org/news
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 

Re: [build] planning to create new developer snapshots

[Kay Schenk]

On Mon, Jan 16, 2012 at 5:21 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton  wrote:

> Take a look at this provisional page for unofficial developer snapshots
> started by Jürgen today: <
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+3.4+Unofficial+Developer+Snapshots
> >
>
> This seems like an easier place to do this.  (I didn't know about it until
> I saw a commit message about it.)
>

SUPER! thanks for pointing this out...I'll update some areas on the "user
portal" in the development area as well.  Yes, putting this on the wiki IS
easier!

>
>  - Dennis
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Kay Schenk [mailto:kay.sch...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Monday, January 16, 2012 15:30
> To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org
> Subject: Re: [build] planning to create new developer snapshots
>
> On Sun, Jan 15, 2012 at 10:57 PM, Oliver-Rainer Wittmann <
> orwittm...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> >
> > On 14.01.2012 18:16, Kay Schenk wrote:
> >
> >> 2012/1/10 Jürgen Schmidt jogischm...@googlemail.com>
> >> >
> >>
> >>  On 1/10/12 11:23 AM, Oliver-Rainer Wittmann wrote:
> [ ... ]
> 
> >>> I would suggest that we use only one page where we can link all
> provided
> >>> builds. That means if you can provide builds, maybe Ariel can contain
> >>> them
> >>> in his overview page. I would add a MacOS build and Linux 64bit on a
> >>> regular basis.
> >>>
> [ ... ]
> > As the builds which Ariel, Jürgen and myself are planning to provide are
> > no official builds I do not think that it is a good idea to link the
> > planned 'download site' prominent and like they are official builds.
> > From my point of view these builds are only intermediate ones until we
> > have official builds from our to be planned setup buildbots.
>
>
> OK...since I'm not a developer, I didn't realize we had such a
> differentiation. And, since I myself don't know how this particular
> download area, "next", gets populated, I thought maybe one of you might one
> to investigate. Not a problem, I just didn't know if this warranted further
> investigation.
>
>
> [ ... ]
>
>


-- 

MzK

"Follow your bliss."
 -- attributed to Joseph Campbell

Re: Website Help

[Kay Schenk]

On Mon, Jan 16, 2012 at 11:32 AM, Roman Meisenberg <
ro...@silenceproductions.net> wrote:

> Hi!
>
> I just stumbled upon the Help Wanted page on the Apache Wiki. I would love
> to help out with the website.
> I am a web developer and photographer from NYC. How would I go about
> getting started on this if you still
> require the help?
>

Hi Roman--

Welcome to the Apache OpenOffice.org project!

Ah, yes, our Help Wanted page. OK, some clarification. There are actually
*two* websites involved in this project -- the project landing page (also
called the developer portal) at:

 http://incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg/index.html

and the "user portal" ( the migrated legacy www.openoffice.org) at:

http://www.openoffice.org/

As is turns out, we were just discussing how the "Help Wanted" pages is a
bit out of date, so what you see there could use some "interpretation" I
think.

This said, we just got the legacy site migrated the last week in December.
I don't think we're ready for any large scale design changes at the moment
-- but we are in need of some sitewide edits for the user portal site with
respect to the palce of the user portal site in the Apache Foundation vs
the "independent" OpenOffice.org entity.

This said,  please feel free to take a look at anything you see on the
"user portal" site -- http:www.openoffice.org -- and suggest changes or,
given your current "contributor" role, submit patches, to areas.

And again, welcome to the project!




> Thanks so much!
>
> --
> Roman Meisenberg
> p. 213.53.ROMAN
> f.  763.322.2274
> --
> silenceproductions.net
> ro...@silenceproductions.net
> --
> New York, NY
> Miami, FL
> Los Angeles, CA
>
> Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail.
>



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 -- attributed to Joseph Campbell

RE: [RELEASE]: help wanted to define default dictionaries for languages

[Dennis E. Hamilton]

That's why I said *minimum*.

-Original Message-
From: Jürgen Schmidt [mailto:jogischm...@googlemail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2012 08:16
To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: [RELEASE]: help wanted to define default dictionaries for languages

On 1/17/12 5:12 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote:
> I'm going by what is being covered with developer snapshots at the moment:
> 

that is of course a wrong assumption, the list of languages there is 
only a first guess of languages where we have more or less identified 
volunteers who want to take look on it.

It doesn't make sense to built all possible languages right now, 
especially when we don't have the pootle data integrated and know how 
complete it is.

Juergen


>
>   - Dennis
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Andre Fischer [mailto:a...@a-w-f.de]
> Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2012 04:18
> To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org
> Subject: Re: [RELEASE]: help wanted to define default dictionaries for 
> languages
>
> Hi Dennis,
>
> On 17.01.2012 02:14, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote:
>> If you look at the localization languages that are on the current list for 
>> built-by-AOO packages as part of a release, that effectively identifies the 
>> *minimum* set of languages that writing tools are required for.
>
> Can you provide a link for this?
>
> Thanks,
> Andre
>
>> [...]
>

Re: New feature: Drawing thick lines with line caps

[Armin Le Grand]

Hi all,

I updated a last time to trunk, the feature is ready. Builds can be 
found at:


Linux64bit: http://people.apache.org/~alg/linecap/unxlngx6/
Mac: http://people.apache.org/~alg/linecap/unxmacxi/
Windows: http://people.apache.org/~alg/linecap/wntmsci12/

Sincerely,
Armin
--
ALG

Re: www.openoffice-forum.de <- Spam-Forum

[Rob Weir]

On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 9:58 AM, drew  wrote:
> On Tue, 2012-01-17 at 13:51 +0100, Guenter Mehle wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> does the forum www.openoffice-forum.de have to be in the list?
>> This forum spreads much Polish Spam.
>> http://www.openoffice.org/de/foren.html
>>
>
> Halo Guenter
>
> Two things -
>
> First, I would think there are multiple edits for that page.
>
> Remove links for:
> www.ooo-portal.de
> www.openoffice-forum.de
> and
> forum.sun.com
>

I don't think we should remove links merely because they have some
spam in their forums.  Spam is a problem we all need to deal with.
The question should not be whether they have spam, but whether they
are providing a service for our users.  From what I can see,
openoffice-forum.de had a recent burst of spam, but they've also had
valid and useful discussions related to OpenOffice support.  So I
would not support removing them.

Remember, if we want to make spam a criterion for removing links to a
service, then we'd need to remove our own Bugzilla bugtracking
instance, for hosting over 1000 spam attachments:

https://www.google.com/search?q=site%3Aopenoffice.org+viagra


> The first entry for XNIG is malformed, needs update or removal.
>
> The newsgroups will need up dating also.
>
> Not sure who is going to handle the DE pages, is there already a hand up
> for that?
>
> Best wishes,
>
> //drew
>
>
>

Re: Fw1 [ooo-site] - dwnld-size Mac-version 200MB for 56k-modem or ISDN

[eric b]

Hi,


Le 17 janv. 12 à 17:28, Dave Fisher a écrit :



On Jan 17, 2012, at 8:17 AM, Christian Lohmaier wrote:


Hi Dave, *,

On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 5:03 PM, Dave Fisher  
 wrote:

[...]
Go to http://www.openoffice.org/download/other.html  and select  
the version and language you need.

Mac's use different versions for Intel and PPC processors.


There is a German Mac PPC version and when I clicked on it the  
download did start up.


But not the "current" version, but an even older one.


Yes, it is 3.2.1.

Since no PPC Macs are being built I doubt that many more builds  
will happen unless someone has that itch to scratch here.




I got a PowerPC machine, running Tiger, and I could -accidentaly -   
build one developer snapshot.


Let me several days, and if I can provide one, I'll post on the list.

Just let me know what locales you need.


Thanks,
Eric Bachard


--
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Projet OOo4Kids : http://wiki.ooo4kids.org/index.php/Main_Page
L'association EducOOo : http://www.educoo.org
Blog : http://eric.bachard.org/news

Re: Fw1 [ooo-site] - dwnld-size Mac-version 200MB for 56k-modem or ISDN

[Larry Gusaas]

On 2012-01-17 10:13 AM  Christian Lohmaier wrote:

That's a not really helpful answer.


And what is not helpful about it? It provides the location to get the latest official release 
for either Intel or PPC  versions once the posters determines which he needs.


--
_

Larry I. Gusaas
Moose Jaw, Saskatchewan Canada
Website: http://larry-gusaas.com
"An artist is never ahead of his time but most people are far behind theirs." - 
Edgard Varese

Re: Fw1 [ooo-site] - dwnld-size Mac-version 200MB for 56k-modem or ISDN

[Dave Fisher]

On Jan 17, 2012, at 8:17 AM, Christian Lohmaier wrote:

> Hi Dave, *,
> 
> On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 5:03 PM, Dave Fisher  wrote:
>> [...]
>>> Go to http://www.openoffice.org/download/other.html  and select the version 
>>> and language you need.
>>> Mac's use different versions for Intel and PPC processors.
>> 
>> There is a German Mac PPC version and when I clicked on it the download did 
>> start up.
> 
> But not the "current" version, but an even older one.

Yes, it is 3.2.1.

Since no PPC Macs are being built I doubt that many more builds will happen 
unless someone has that itch to scratch here.

If Wilfried wants to try building an developer build of Apache OpenOffice 3.4 
for Mac PPC that is another question and a new thread. This would be the place 
for that.

Regards,
Dave

> 
> ciao
> Christian

Re: Fw1 [ooo-site] - dwnld-size Mac-version 200MB for 56k-modem or ISDN

[Christian Lohmaier]

Hi Dave, *,

On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 5:03 PM, Dave Fisher  wrote:
> [...]
>> Go to http://www.openoffice.org/download/other.html  and select the version 
>> and language you need.
>> Mac's use different versions for Intel and PPC processors.
>
> There is a German Mac PPC version and when I clicked on it the download did 
> start up.

But not the "current" version, but an even older one.

ciao
Christian

Re: [RELEASE]: help wanted to define default dictionaries for languages

[Jürgen Schmidt]

On 1/17/12 5:12 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote:

I'm going by what is being covered with developer snapshots at the moment:



that is of course a wrong assumption, the list of languages there is 
only a first guess of languages where we have more or less identified 
volunteers who want to take look on it.


It doesn't make sense to built all possible languages right now, 
especially when we don't have the pootle data integrated and know how 
complete it is.


Juergen




  - Dennis

-Original Message-
From: Andre Fischer [mailto:a...@a-w-f.de]
Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2012 04:18
To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: [RELEASE]: help wanted to define default dictionaries for languages

Hi Dennis,

On 17.01.2012 02:14, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote:

If you look at the localization languages that are on the current list for 
built-by-AOO packages as part of a release, that effectively identifies the 
*minimum* set of languages that writing tools are required for.


Can you provide a link for this?

Thanks,
Andre


[...]

Re: Fw1 [ooo-site] - dwnld-size Mac-version 200MB for 56k-modem or ISDN

[Christian Lohmaier]

On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 4:57 PM, Larry Gusaas  wrote:
> On 2012-01-17 5:31 AM  WilfriedBiesinger wrote concerning  "Fw1 [ooo-site] -
> dwnld-size Mac-version 200MB for 56k-modem or ISDN":
>
>> please, I do need the Mac-version (PPC I think) zipped, too, and although
>> without Java, if not already is without.
>
> Go to http://www.openoffice.org/download/other.html  and select the version
> and language you need.
> Mac's use different versions for Intel and PPC processors.

That's a not really helpful answer. PPC: No chance for german 3.3.0
using those pages, as the german version was not officially approved
(did not go through the QA-process) and thus is only available as
release-candidate. However the PPC version was never provided by
Sun/Oracle, but by a community volunteer (Maho Nakata). Unfortunately
the server he was uploading the builds to is out-of-service, so those
builds are no longer accessible. Same goes for the unofficial mirror
of that server provided by Florian Bircher that provided a subset of
the languages

So: as both http://ooopackages.good-day.net/pub/ and
http://unlogisch.ch/mirror/ooopackages.good-day.net/pub/ are gone: No
official source for the PPC 3.3.0 installer in german.
You need to use the english installer and add german language with the
languagepack (you can use the one for intel, those don't contain any
architecture specific files (LibreOffice also only builds the
languagepacks on intel, the ppc ones just get hardlinked to the intel
ones))

ciao
Christian

RE: [RELEASE]: help wanted to define default dictionaries for languages

[Dennis E. Hamilton]

I'm going by what is being covered with developer snapshots at the moment:


 - Dennis

-Original Message-
From: Andre Fischer [mailto:a...@a-w-f.de] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2012 04:18
To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: [RELEASE]: help wanted to define default dictionaries for languages

Hi Dennis,

On 17.01.2012 02:14, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote:
> If you look at the localization languages that are on the current list for 
> built-by-AOO packages as part of a release, that effectively identifies the 
> *minimum* set of languages that writing tools are required for.

Can you provide a link for this?

Thanks,
Andre

>[...]

Re: Fw1 [ooo-site] - dwnld-size Mac-version 200MB for 56k-modem or ISDN

[Dave Fisher]

On Jan 17, 2012, at 7:57 AM, Larry Gusaas wrote:

> On 2012-01-17 5:31 AM  WilfriedBiesinger wrote concerning  "Fw1 [ooo-site] - 
> dwnld-size Mac-version 200MB for 56k-modem or ISDN":
>> please, I do need the Mac-version (PPC I think) zipped, too, and although 
>> without Java, if not already is without.
> 
> Go to http://www.openoffice.org/download/other.html  and select the version 
> and language you need.
> Mac's use different versions for Intel and PPC processors.

There is a German Mac PPC version and when I clicked on it the download did 
start up.

Regards,
Dave

> 
> -- 
> _
> 
> Larry I. Gusaas
> Moose Jaw, Saskatchewan Canada
> Website: http://larry-gusaas.com
> "An artist is never ahead of his time but most people are far behind theirs." 
> - Edgard Varese
> 
> 

Re: Fw1 [ooo-site] - dwnld-size Mac-version 200MB for 56k-modem or ISDN

[Larry Gusaas]

On 2012-01-17 5:31 AM  WilfriedBiesinger wrote concerning  "Fw1 [ooo-site] - dwnld-size 
Mac-version 200MB for 56k-modem or ISDN":

please, I do need the Mac-version (PPC I think) zipped, too, and although 
without Java, if not already is without.


Go to http://www.openoffice.org/download/other.html  and select the version and 
language you need.
Mac's use different versions for Intel and PPC processors.

--
_

Larry I. Gusaas
Moose Jaw, Saskatchewan Canada
Website: http://larry-gusaas.com
"An artist is never ahead of his time but most people are far behind theirs." - 
Edgard Varese

Re: www.openoffice-forum.de <- Spam-Forum

[drew]

On Tue, 2012-01-17 at 13:51 +0100, Guenter Mehle wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> does the forum www.openoffice-forum.de have to be in the list?
> This forum spreads much Polish Spam.
> http://www.openoffice.org/de/foren.html
> 

Halo Guenter

Two things - 

First, I would think there are multiple edits for that page.

Remove links for:
www.ooo-portal.de
www.openoffice-forum.de
and
forum.sun.com 

The first entry for XNIG is malformed, needs update or removal.

The newsgroups will need up dating also.

Not sure who is going to handle the DE pages, is there already a hand up
for that?

Best wishes,

//drew

Re: Apache list archive issues must be fixed soon

[Christian Lohmaier]

Hi *,

On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 6:37 AM, Kazunari Hirano  wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 2:40 AM, Dave Fisher  wrote:
>> On Jan 16, 2012, at 12:11 AM, Kazunari Hirano wrote:
>
>> I think that parts of these issues have been resolved for other reasons and 
>> that the subject encoding is the remaining issue. I could be wrong.
>
> Yes.  You are right.  Parts of :)

If you are referring to the two messages below where one of them
works: no, nothing was fixed (from my POV), the message that works
just doesn't trigger the bug (missing feature, however you want to
call it)

> You see,
> [1] 
> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-ooo-general-ja/201112.mbox/%3CCAG6wa6F52VHKUG=Ao8FYkOybP0Zu_uQ=ouqckzubm4p7xgm...@mail.gmail.com%3E
> this is 100% OK.  But
> [2] 
> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-ooo-general-ja/201112.mbox/%3ccag6wa6e3wnuwpxotug4ydujspuktsem_uuhxgh8ms4mytez...@mail.gmail.com%3E
> this is not OK.
> What is the difference between [1] and [2]?

That is easy: the one that the archive cannot cope with is using a
7bit message encoding.
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-2022-JP
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

ciao
Christian

www.openoffice-forum.de <- Spam-Forum

[Guenter Mehle]

Hi,

does the forum www.openoffice-forum.de have to be in the list?
This forum spreads much Polish Spam.
http://www.openoffice.org/de/foren.html

Best regards, Guenter

Re: [RELEASE]: help wanted to define default dictionaries for languages

[Andre Fischer]

Hi Dennis,

On 17.01.2012 02:14, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote:

If you look at the localization languages that are on the current list for 
built-by-AOO packages as part of a release, that effectively identifies the 
*minimum* set of languages that writing tools are required for.


Can you provide a link for this?

Thanks,
Andre


[...]

Re: Apache list archive issues must be fixed soon

[Tony Stevenson]

On Mon, Jan 16, 2012 at 10:00:37PM -0800, Dave Fisher wrote:
> Hi Daniel,
> 
> On Jan 16, 2012, at 9:51 PM, Daniel Shahaf wrote:
> 
> > (CC please on replies)  Infra has already looked into upgrading to
> > mod_mbox trunk@HEAD.  The upgrade was attempted, reverted due to causing
> > silent breakage, and is on the queue for being re-attempted.
> 
> I know it can be difficult to estimate how long tasks take and OpenOffice is 
> not the only project.
> 
> When do you think this will be reattempted?

Dave, AIUI it is not being actively worked on right now.  We are currently very 
busy, and a resource down. 
I'll let Daniel give you a specific time, if indeed there is one. But please 
bare with us for the next couple of weeks. 

-- 

Cheers,
Tony


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Re: [EXT] programmatically editing a addons toolbar

[Ariel Constenla-Haile]

Hi Fabian

On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 8:46 AM, fabian  wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I am writing my first UNO/Java extension for ooo 3.3 and are trying to add a 
> dropdown/submenu to my existing toolbar.
>
> I created the toolbar in the Addons.xcu file and are trying now to get a 
> handle to it.
> I read about implementing the com.sun.star.frame.XToolbarController interface 
> but don't know how to address my toolbar.

a ToolbarController is almost impossible to implement with the current API.
Instead, you have to use the so called "complex toolbar controls" feature:

http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Framework/Article/Generic_UNO_Interfaces_for_complex_toolbar_controls

There is a C++ example on the SDK.

Regards

Fw1 [ooo-site] - dwnld-size Mac-version 200MB for 56k-modem or ISDN

[WilfriedBiesinger]

Hello, 

please, I do need the Mac-version (PPC I think) zipped, too, and although 
without Java, if not already is without. 

Thank you already now. Best Regards, W. Biesinger. 

- Original Message - 
From: WilfriedBiesinger 
To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org 
Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2012 4:09 AM
Subject: [ooo-site]


http://download.services.openoffice.org/files/localized/de/3.3.0/OOo_3.3.0_Win_x86_install_de.exe

"No such file or directory." 

Will I get feed-back ? 

Re: Question related derivative code based on our Apache licensed code

[TJ Frazier]

On 1/16/2012 10:28, Pedro Giffuni wrote:

Hi Michael;

Just to be clear ...
I am not a lawyer, and even if I were whatever I say in
respect to licensing doesn't have any legal permission
or state any rule wrt what should be done.

just to make that clear :).

--- Lun 16/1/12, Michael Meeks  ha scritto:


Hi Pedro,

On Wed, 2012-01-04 at 06:38 -0800, Pedro Giffuni wrote:

What will happen is that the code will keep the

MPL/LGPL3

restrictions in addition to the AL2.


 That would be the plan; though our code
will -emphatically- not be
available under the AL2; only an MPL/LGPLv3+ [as well as
any lingering terms from the AL2].



In the projects I participate we never *ever* replace a
license, we just add a copyright header with our license
when relevant. I would expect LO will have to comply
with AL2, adding the respective restrictions imposed
by your own licensing scheme (MPL/GPL).


- They will have to carry the AL2 license among their

code

and headers, and the clause 5 is particularly nice to

have.

 Clause five of the AL2 is:

 "5. Submission of Contributions. Unless
You explicitly state
  otherwise, any Contribution
intentionally submitted for
  inclusion in the Work by You
to the Licensor shall be under the
  terms and conditions of this
License, without any additional
  terms or conditions.
Notwithstanding the above, nothing herein
  shall supersede or modify the
terms of any separate license
  agreement you may have
executed with Licensor regarding such
  Contributions."

 IANAL, but to create a superabundance of
clarity - no contribution
submitted to LibreOffice is a 'Contribution'. It is not
submitted to
'Licensor' which is ASF (cf. definition of Contribution).
The TDF
infrastructure is not /managed by, or on behalf of, the
ASF/.



Issue 5 only applies to contributions made to the Apache
project. Surely the code that has been contributed to LO
cannot be taken by us unless the author specifically
authorizes sends it to us too.


 If it would help to clarify this, we can
add a "Not a contribution"
line or similar language to our new (MPL/LGPL)onAL2 header
as/when we've got that worked through.



This type of sillyness, attempting to obfuscate the language,
is one of the reasons why I keep away from projects with
unreadable licenses.


 Of course, individuals are quite at
liberty to choose to license their
contributions to the ASF if they so choose, and to include
-their- code
into either project; though that is something I'd
personally
discourage :-)

 So - any expansion on "is particularly
nice to have" would be helpful
Pedro - why do you think this is particularly nice ? :-)



It is really nice because in this project we don't request
silly licensing statements. We assume people are not
stupid enough to send us code that we can't use. Here
the term "stupid" has the same connotation as defined in
Carlo Cipola's classical paper:
 http://cantrip.org/stupidity.html

(BTW, Anyone has a link to the original in italian?)

cheers,

Pedro.



http://www.amazon.com/Allegro-non-troppo-Contrappunti-Italian/dp/8815019804/ref=pd_sim_sbs_b_1/185-0371021-4419420

A commercial link, but maybe a good starting point.
--
/tj/

[EXT] programmatically editing a addons toolbar

[fabian]

Hi,

I am writing my first UNO/Java extension for ooo 3.3 and are trying to add a 
dropdown/submenu to my existing toolbar.

I created the toolbar in the Addons.xcu file and are trying now to get a handle 
to it.
I read about implementing the com.sun.star.frame.XToolbarController interface 
but don't know how to address my toolbar.

Any help on this would be appreciated.

regards,
Fabian

External communications

[Ross Gardler]

Two really positive and constructive blog posts in just a few days -
this is great to see.

Thank you to Hagar Delest and Armin for these two posts.

Ross

-- 
Ross Gardler (@rgardler)
Programme Leader (Open Development)
OpenDirective http://opendirective.com

Re: [BUILD]: propose new Developer snapshot builds based on revision r1231878

[Andrea Pescetti]

Jürgen Schmidt wrote:

If Windows, Linux and Mac versions are available I would like to drop a
short mail on our announce mailing list if we all think that it is a
good idea to promote this unofficial snapshot builds to a broader
audience. We can only benefit from this and will hopefully can early
feedback.
Any opinions on the announcement part?


I don't know how the port to CoinMP is progressing, but I would prefer 
to wait that the Solver is back in before making an announcement: we've 
seen enough attention and enough misunderstandings to be sure that if 
the Solver is still disabled then journalists and bloggers will get it 
wrong.


Same would go for integrating dictionaries back in Language packs.

At the very least, the wiki page

https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+3.4+Unofficial+Developer+Snapshots

should list the parts that are intentionally disabled in these builds: 
it is important that people understand that there will be no dropped 
features (except for obsolete functionality or very rare use cases) from 
OpenOffice.org 3.3.0 to Apache OpenOffice 3.4.


Regards,
  Andrea.

Re: [BUILD]: propose new Developer snapshot builds based on revision r1231878

[Jürgen Schmidt]

On 1/17/12 11:02 AM, Oliver-Rainer Wittmann wrote:

Hi,

I have added nl language pack to the builds which I have uploaded to
http://people.apache.org/~orw/DevSnapshots-Rev.1231878/win32/


thanks, I am building nl as well and have insert links to your build in 
the wiki.


@Dennnis, the main idea of this page was to have a central place where 
we collect available snapshot builds based on the same revision. Not 
more. We don't want to keep older revision for a longer time, it simply 
doesn't make sense from my point of view.


In my role as volunteer release manager I would like to focus our work 
on the latest available snapshot builds.


I don't see Solaris right now as a critical platform for a release. But 
if somebody will provide snapshots it's fine.



If Windows, Linux and Mac versions are available I would like to drop a 
short mail on our announce mailing list if we all think that it is a 
good idea to promote this unofficial snapshot builds to a broader 
audience. We can only benefit from this and will hopefully can early 
feedback.


Any opinions on the announcement part?

Juergen





Best regards, Oliver.

On 17.01.2012 08:48, Oliver-Rainer Wittmann wrote:

Hi Arthur,

+1 for nl.

Best regards, Oliver.

On 16.01.2012 22:56, Arthur Buijs wrote:

How can I help to add _nl to this list?

-- Arthur


-Original message-
To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org;
From: Jürgen Schmidt
Sent: Mon 16-01-2012 18:08
Subject: Re: [BUILD]: propose new Developer snapshot builds based on
revision
r1231878

On 1/16/12 12:24 PM, Oliver-Rainer Wittmann wrote:

Hi,

On 16.01.2012 10:37, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:

Hi Oliver, Ariel,

i submitted minor branding relevant changes to get an impression how
it can look
like (nothing 100#% final if decide to change it).

I would like to propose that we prepare a new set of developer
snapshots based
on this version.

I have already started to build ...

- openofficedev_en-US
- a multilingual office -
openofficedev_en-US_de_fr_es_it_ja_zh-CN_pt-BR
- language packs
ooodevlanguagepack_de
ooodevlanguagepack_fr
ooodevlanguagepack_es
ooodevlanguagepack_it
ooodevlanguagepack_ja
ooodevlanguagepack_zh-CN
ooodevlanguagepack_pt-BR
- sdkoodev

If you have time it would be perfect if you can provide the windows
and Linux
builds.



I have started the preparation (update local repository) of these
builds
and will start building soon.


great, let me know when the builds are available and i will extend the
new wiki page
(https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+3.4+Unofficial+Develop

er+Snapshots)
where I have already linked to my MacOS developer snapshots.

@Ariel: please let me know if you can't provide new builds based on
this
revision. I will then setup my vbox to prepare the new builds.

I think it would be perfect when we try to provide new builds at least
once a week (for example on Monday/Tuesday) based on the same revision.
This way we can ensure that others can start with testing already and
that we have a more or less aligned and coordinated process to provide
these snapshot builds until we have build-bots for all platforms
available.

Juergen




Best regards, Oliver.

Re: [BUILD]solaris build failed again.

[Ariel Constenla-Haile]

Hi L'oiseau de mer,

On Mon, Jan 16, 2012 at 09:29:33AM +0800, L'oiseau de mer wrote:
> This is my content in SolarisX86Env.Set.sh:
> 
> GTK_CFLAGS="-I/usr/include/gtk-2.0 -I/usr/lib/gtk-2.0/include 
> -I/usr/include/atk
> -1.0 -I/usr/include/pango-1.0 -I/usr/openwin/include -I/usr/sfw/include 
> -I/usr/s
> fw/include/freetype2 -I/usr/include/glib-2.0 -I/usr/lib/glib-2.0/include  "
> GTK_LIBS="-lgtk-x11-2.0 -lgdk-x11-2.0 -latk-1.0 -lpangoxft-1.0 -lpangox-1.0 
> -lpa
> ngo-1.0 -lgdk_pixbuf_xlib-2.0 -lgdk_pixbuf-2.0 -lm -lmlib -lgobject-2.0 
> -lgmodul
> e-2.0 -lglib-2.0  "
> GTHREAD_CFLAGS="-mt -I/usr/include/glib-2.0 -I/usr/lib/glib-2.0/include  "
> GTHREAD_LIBS="-mt -lgthread-2.0 -lglib-2.0  "
> 
> And my GTK version is 2.4.9 , gthread is 2.4.1.

it would help to know the command generated to invoke your compiler.
If it worked before, but stopped working after the latests revision, it
might be the change in the external library.
Comparing the previous command that worked with this new one, you'll get
an idea of what's wrong now. Just a hint, as I've never built on
Solaris.


Regards
-- 
Ariel Constenla-Haile
La Plata, Argentina


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Re: smoketestoo_native

[Ariel Constenla-Haile]

Hi linyi li,

On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 10:00:07AM +0800, linyi li wrote:
> Hi Ariel,
> 
> My problem is the same like L'oiseau de mer.
> 
> The variable CPPUNIT_CFLAGSis set to: -I/usr/local/include
> The variable CPPUNIT_LIBS  is set to: -L/usr/local/lib -lcppunit


is /usr/local/lib in the linker search path?

* does your system set the environment variable LD_LIBRARY_PATH
  Try echo $LD_LIBRARY_PATH 

* does your system add this path in the ld configuration? Usually
  /etc/ld.so.conf and /etc/ld.so.conf.d/*.conf


If /usr/local/lib is not on the linker search path you will always get
undefined references.
Adding -L/usr/local/lib to the linker command is not enough.


> The full output of the command when building smoketestoo_native is:
> lily@lily-desktop:~/ooo/main$ cd smoketestoo_native && build
> build -- version: 275224
> 
> 
> =
> Building module smoketestoo_native
> =
> 
> Entering /home/lily/ooo/main/smoketestoo_native
> 
> dmake: Executing shell macro: ls
> $(installationtest_instset)/OOo_*_install-arc_$(defaultlangiso).tar.gz
> Making:libsmoketest.so
> g++ -Wl,-z,combreloc -Wl,-z,defs -Wl,-Bsymbolic-functions
> -Wl,--dynamic-list-cpp-new -Wl,--dynamic-list-cpp-typeinfo
> -Wl,--hash-style=both -shared -Wl,-O1 -Wl,--version-script ./
> unxlngi6.pro/misc/version_smoketest.map -L./unxlngi6.pro/lib -L../lib
> -L/home/lily/ooo/main/solenv/unxlngi6/lib -L/home/lily/ooo/main/solver/340/
> unxlngi6.pro/lib -L/home/lily/ooo/main/solenv/unxlngi6/lib
> -L/usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun/lib -L/usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun/jre/lib/i386
> -L/usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun/jre/lib/i386/client
> -L/usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun/jre/lib/i386/native_threads -L/usr/lib ./
> unxlngi6.pro/slo/smoketest.o ./unxlngi6.pro/slo/smoketest_version.o -o ./
> unxlngi6.pro/lib/libsmoketest.so -luno_cppuhelpergcc3 -luno_cppu
> -L/usr/local/lib -lcppunit -luno_sal -ltest -Wl,--as-needed -ldl -lpthread
> -lm -Wl,--no-as-needed -Wl,-Bdynamic -lstlport_gcc
> /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -ltest

did you build the trunk/main/test module?


Regards
-- 
Ariel Constenla-Haile
La Plata, Argentina


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Re: [BUILD]: propose new Developer snapshot builds based on revision r1231878

[Oliver-Rainer Wittmann]

Hi,

I have added nl language pack to the builds which I have uploaded to 
http://people.apache.org/~orw/DevSnapshots-Rev.1231878/win32/


Best regards, Oliver.

On 17.01.2012 08:48, Oliver-Rainer Wittmann wrote:

Hi Arthur,

+1 for nl.

Best regards, Oliver.

On 16.01.2012 22:56, Arthur Buijs wrote:

How can I help to add _nl to this list?

-- Arthur


-Original message-
To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org;
From: Jürgen Schmidt
Sent: Mon 16-01-2012 18:08
Subject: Re: [BUILD]: propose new Developer snapshot builds based on revision
r1231878

On 1/16/12 12:24 PM, Oliver-Rainer Wittmann wrote:

Hi,

On 16.01.2012 10:37, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:

Hi Oliver, Ariel,

i submitted minor branding relevant changes to get an impression how
it can look
like (nothing 100#% final if decide to change it).

I would like to propose that we prepare a new set of developer
snapshots based
on this version.

I have already started to build ...

- openofficedev_en-US
- a multilingual office - openofficedev_en-US_de_fr_es_it_ja_zh-CN_pt-BR
- language packs
ooodevlanguagepack_de
ooodevlanguagepack_fr
ooodevlanguagepack_es
ooodevlanguagepack_it
ooodevlanguagepack_ja
ooodevlanguagepack_zh-CN
ooodevlanguagepack_pt-BR
- sdkoodev

If you have time it would be perfect if you can provide the windows
and Linux
builds.



I have started the preparation (update local repository) of these builds
and will start building soon.


great, let me know when the builds are available and i will extend the
new wiki page
(https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+3.4+Unofficial+Develop
er+Snapshots)
where I have already linked to my MacOS developer snapshots.

@Ariel: please let me know if you can't provide new builds based on this
revision. I will then setup my vbox to prepare the new builds.

I think it would be perfect when we try to provide new builds at least
once a week (for example on Monday/Tuesday) based on the same revision.
This way we can ensure that others can start with testing already and
that we have a more or less aligned and coordinated process to provide
these snapshot builds until we have build-bots for all platforms available.

Juergen




Best regards, Oliver.

Re: [BUILD]: propose new Developer snapshot builds based on revision r1231878

[Jürgen Schmidt]

On 1/17/12 6:37 AM, Ariel Constenla-Haile wrote:

Hi Arthur,

On Mon, Jan 16, 2012 at 10:56:01PM +0100, Arthur Buijs wrote:

How can I help to add _nl to this list?


just ask here, and then spread the word if there is an agreement to
build nl packages.

I have no problem, another language won't make much difference in the
time it takes to build the 7 languages.
So +1 from my part.


agree it shouldn't be a big deal. But we should focus on languages where 
we know that people will test it. So I am fine with nl if you would like 
to test it. Our initial list was simply a start.


Juergen