Re: Unofficial Apache OO Debian repository updated
On Sun, Aug 26, 2012 at 12:47 PM, Wolf Halton wolf.hal...@gmail.com wrote: Sounds like it might not take too much effort to get it to work in Ubuntu. Wolf Halton http://sourcefreedom.com Apache developer: wolfhal...@apache.org On Aug 24, 2012 4:37 PM, Marcelo Santana msant...@cnen.gov.br wrote: On Sat, 25 Aug 2012 03:45:38 +0800, imacat ima...@mail.imacat.idv.tw wrote: [...] Hi there, Hmm... in that case, shouldn't these package files work on Squeeze, too? Why is Wheezy? Wheezy is not released yet. I'm not sure, but probably yes because there is no package dependency which prevent it to be installed on the squeeze. But I've not tested yet. I am a Debian user. I switched to AOO a while back because of a regression in LO that affects my work. I have been using the dev builds, works greatthanks. I am testing Wheezy in a VM , tried the sourceforge Debian repo's. The issue I am seeing is Debian still uses 'openoffice' in their package management systems. Trying to find/install openoffice results in links to libreoffice. While this is probable an issue to discuss with Debian, I am wondering how this repo is working for others. What is the package name to install AOO ? -- Peace Greg Madden
Re: Unofficial Apache OO Debian repository updated
On Sun, Aug 26, 2012 at 1:42 PM, Greg Madden gomadtr...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Aug 26, 2012 at 12:47 PM, Wolf Halton wolf.hal...@gmail.com wrote: Sounds like it might not take too much effort to get it to work in Ubuntu. Wolf Halton http://sourcefreedom.com Apache developer: wolfhal...@apache.org On Aug 24, 2012 4:37 PM, Marcelo Santana msant...@cnen.gov.br wrote: On Sat, 25 Aug 2012 03:45:38 +0800, imacat ima...@mail.imacat.idv.tw wrote: [...] Hi there, Hmm... in that case, shouldn't these package files work on Squeeze, too? Why is Wheezy? Wheezy is not released yet. I'm not sure, but probably yes because there is no package dependency which prevent it to be installed on the squeeze. But I've not tested yet. I am a Debian user. I switched to AOO a while back because of a regression in LO that affects my work. I have been using the dev builds, works greatthanks. I am testing Wheezy in a VM , tried the sourceforge Debian repo's. The issue I am seeing is Debian still uses 'openoffice' in their package management systems. Trying to find/install openoffice results in links to libreoffice. My mistake, wrong sources.list entry. While this is probable an issue to discuss with Debian, I am wondering how this repo is working for others. What is the package name to install AOO ? I now see it is openoffice.org3. Debian, Wheezy , does use 'openoffice.org though. -- Peace Greg Madden
Re: AOO for Debian
On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 10:39 PM, Christoph Jopp j...@gmx.de wrote: Hi Bjoern, Am 17.03.2012 02:14, schrieb Bjoern Michaelsen: Hi all, On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 08:58:31AM +0100, eric b wrote: FYI, Ubuntu Mageia, Mandriva blocked us too : while issues asking for integration exist, nobody will never do anything serious, and every time we'll fit a condition, another will be invented to block again ... That is quite an outragious misrepresentation of facts. Nothing is blocking you from packing OOo4Kids in an Ubuntu ppa. I would like to see a link proving these claims. That being said AFAIK nobody even bothered to try this. The same goes for Apache OpenOffice -- feel free to make a ppa release for it. You would be well advised not to disturb LibreOffice (or any other package from the main/universe repositories) in doing so. Not because it is strictly a requirement in a PPA (which sometimes contain experimental/flaky stuff), but because even the most adventurous users will not forgive you lightly when you mess with applications from the default install. I think Eric was talking about the integration into the standard repositories, not building a Personal Package Archive on Launchpad. Christoph Best, Bjoern (*) as long as you stick to the https://help.launchpad.net/PPATermsofUse Hi , an introduction, I have been reading the AOO-dev list and testing AOO dev builds for my use In Debian. I am the user imacat reffered to in the OP. I was inquiring on the Debian user list to solicit user opinions before approaching OO-dev for Debian. imacat got that ball rolling:-) a good thing on the AOO side Debian side. Now both sides are aware of each other, hopefully it can be worked out. It is about AOO in the official Debian repositories, PPA is Ubuntu stuff,afaik, not relevant to me. I am not a developer of any kind so no help there in making it happen. -- Peace Greg Madden
AOO rev 1296433 full normal install report
Debian stable amd64 box. New install, full normal install set/desktop integration. Installs perfectly, menu item installed. 'dpkg -i ~/*.deb' I use the table function in writer, full page tables, document fidelity from 9 years of my OO archives is awesome :-) Nice work there. I use quite a few of the Table formatting features all are working. All in all a great product, looking forward to a final release. Any suggestions on approaching Debian to include AOO ? -- Peace Greg Madden
Re: [build] planning to create new developer snapshots
On Tue, Jan 10, 2012 at 7:01 AM, Ariel Constenla-Haile arie...@apache.org wrote: Hi Oliver, Jürgen, On Tue, Jan 10, 2012 at 12:39:04PM +0100, Oliver-Rainer Wittmann wrote: Hi, FYI, I have started the builds for revision 1229435. Best regards, Oliver. On 10.01.2012 11:23, Oliver-Rainer Wittmann wrote: Hi, I am planning to create new developer snapshots from the today's revision. Ariel is already using his space on people.apache.org to provide such developer snapshots. I would like to do the same in order to share the effort on such a 'service'. I am able to create builds under Ubuntu 11.10, 32bit (running in a VirtualBox) and Windows 7. @Ariel: May be you can share your 'website' sources/structure. I would use it it for my people.apache.org 'website' Any comments/objections/improvements? Best regards, Oliver. I've uploaded new builds based on rev. 1229372 http://people.apache.org/~arielch/packages/ http://people.apache.org/~arielch/packages/changelog-1226179-1229372.html Regards -- Ariel Constenla-Haile La Plata FYI, not sure if it is intentional but this latest build does not have the 'desktop-integration' package for Debian menus that the Buildbot package has. http://ci.apache.org/projects/openoffice/install/ ~/DEBS/desktop-integration/openoffice.orgxx-debian-menus_xxx -- Peace Greg Madden
Re: [BUG] AOO cannot be installed
2012/1/4 Jürgen Schmidt jogischm...@googlemail.com: On 1/4/12 9:49 AM, Greg Madden wrote: On 1/2/12 9:57 PM, Ariel Constenla-Haile wrote: On Mon, Jan 02, 2012 at 09:45:01PM +0100, Andrea Pescetti wrote: Ariel Constenla-Haile wrote: On Mon, Jan 02, 2012 at 10:32:10AM +0100, Jürgen Schmidt wrote: Normally the office would come via the distro and would have been build for the distro and the specific versions of the system libraries. This is much easier and i hope we can achieve this state in the future... I doubt this is going to happen. linux distros have switched to LO, and I guess Canonical, RedHat, Suse, ..., have interest in building a brand, so you cannot expect their interest in supporting packaging and distributing AOO; in conclusion, AOO relies on a universal Linux package. I expect that some Linux-based distributions will continue shipping LibreOffice by default (or what they call LibreOffice; in most cases this was simply a name change, since they were actually distributing ooo-build, closer to LibreOffice than to OpenOffice.org but different from both, under the name OpenOffice.org and later under the name LibreOffice; I think they are progressively aligning with LibreOffice now, which is good since users were often confused by customizations). But there is no reason to think that Apache OpenOffice will be kept out of the official repositories; most distributions already offer a dozen browsers and half a dozen office programs, so it is surely possible to get Apache OpenOffice in the most common distributions. packaging a browser cannot be compared to packaging AOO. What I meant is that you can not expect RedHat, Canonical, Suse, etc to pay resources to package AOO. I guess (= I never packaged OOo myself, thought I have packaged some trivial stuff for Fedora) packaging AOO will require a very experienced packager. you are right and the only chance I see is that users ask for it. To make this happen we have to deliver a good product that users want and that they would prefer over a pre-installed LibreOffice. Especially when it comes to commercial usage in companies this can be a key factor to convince the distros to provide AOO as well. Juergen New to gmail for lists, hope this is clear. I use Debian, it has switched to LO, previously it was Go-Office,( Novell)already forking from pure OO. I have strong differences with how the LO devs are 'enhancing' the product. They have created at least one new feature that breaks backwards compatibility with previous versions of OO. Tableborder/line styles I have a 9 year archive of business reports that would need to be edited to be usable. https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=38542,; 42750. I have downloaded ver 3.4 from http://people.apache.org/~arielch/packages/ These work with my archived reports, Not sure how the code flows from one project to the other, my hope is that OO does not duplicate what LO is doing. Greg Madden i can say for sure that we don't use the work of LibreOffice. If we would wanted to do that we simply could not because of the license. Well we would be of course interested in some cleanup work, bug fixes or improvements they have done but we can't use it. So we definitely will have to duplicate some work in the future which is the drawback of the whole license story :-( Juergen I sounded a bit negative, frustrated really. LO is doing some fine work. A key point, improvements are not improvements if they break the user experience, Greg
