Re: Debian repository for AOO

2012-05-31 Thread Jürgen Schmidt
On 5/30/12 9:56 PM, Marcelo Santana wrote:
 Hi folks,
 
 Now the repository is running[1], ready to provide a easier way to
 install Apache OpenOffice 3.4 on a Debian desktop with all available
 languages.
 
 [1]http://sourceforge.net/projects/apacheoo-deb/files/debian/
 
 For while we are providing only i386 and amd64 binaries but soon it
 will be available also the source code (with deb-src entry for
 sources.list file), according to the Debian policy and DFSG.
 
 Thank you Chris and Roberto for the Sourceforge support.
 

great news

Juergen



Re: Debian repository for AOO

2012-05-31 Thread Paulo de Souza Lima
2012/5/31 Jürgen Schmidt jogischm...@googlemail.com

 On 5/30/12 9:56 PM, Marcelo Santana wrote:
  Hi folks,
 
  Now the repository is running[1], ready to provide a easier way to
  install Apache OpenOffice 3.4 on a Debian desktop with all available
  languages.
 
  [1]http://sourceforge.net/projects/apacheoo-deb/files/debian/
 
  For while we are providing only i386 and amd64 binaries but soon it
  will be available also the source code (with deb-src entry for
  sources.list file), according to the Debian policy and DFSG.
 
  Thank you Chris and Roberto for the Sourceforge support.
 

 great news

 Juergen


I've made a tuto on how to use this repo in Debian/Ubuntu/Mint at
https://almalivre.wordpress.com/2012/05/30/apache-openoffice-instalacao-via-repositorio-nao-oficial-para-debianubuntumint/(in
portuguese). Do yout hink it's usefull to translate it to English and
make it available somewhere?

Thanks.

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Re: Debian repository for AOO

2012-05-31 Thread Wolf Halton
Paolo,

Yes please. An english translation published on the en support forum would
ne great.

Wolf

http://evergreen-community-01.lyrasistechnology.org
http://sourcefreedom.com
Apache developer:
wolfhal...@apache.org

On May 31, 2012 8:51 AM, Paulo de Souza Lima paulo.s.l...@varekai.org
wrote:

 snip
 
 
 I've made a tuto on how to use this repo in Debian/Ubuntu/Mint at

https://almalivre.wordpress.com/2012/05/30/apache-openoffice-instalacao-via-repositorio-nao-oficial-para-debianubuntumint/(in
 portuguese). Do yout hink it's usefull to translate it to English and
 make it available somewhere?

 Thanks.

 --
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 http://almalivre.wordpress.com
 Curitiba - PR
 Linux User #432358
 Ubuntu User #28729


Re: Debian repository for AOO

2012-05-30 Thread Albino B Neto
Hi Marcelo. :)

2012/5/29 Marcelo Santana marcgsant...@yahoo.com.br:
 Now I understand how it works! \o/

 Thank you so much for your help on #sourceforge IRC channel.

 I'm configuring the repository, soon I'll publish how to use it. ;-)

Congratulation for the work, you and Claudio.

Albino


Re: Debian repository for AOO

2012-05-30 Thread Marcelo Santana
Hi folks,

Now the repository is running[1], ready to provide a easier way to
install Apache OpenOffice 3.4 on a Debian desktop with all available
languages.

[1]http://sourceforge.net/projects/apacheoo-deb/files/debian/

For while we are providing only i386 and amd64 binaries but soon it
will be available also the source code (with deb-src entry for
sources.list file), according to the Debian policy and DFSG.

Thank you Chris and Roberto for the Sourceforge support.

Regards,

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Re: Debian repository for AOO

2012-05-30 Thread RGB ES
2012/5/30 Marcelo Santana marcgsant...@yahoo.com.br:
 Hi folks,

 Now the repository is running[1], ready to provide a easier way to
 install Apache OpenOffice 3.4 on a Debian desktop with all available
 languages.

 [1]http://sourceforge.net/projects/apacheoo-deb/files/debian/

 For while we are providing only i386 and amd64 binaries but soon it
 will be available also the source code (with deb-src entry for
 sources.list file), according to the Debian policy and DFSG.

 Thank you Chris and Roberto for the Sourceforge support.

 Regards,


Good! Repo promoted on EN, ES and IT forums ;)

Regards
Ricardo


Re: Debian repository for AOO

2012-05-30 Thread Albino B Neto
Hi.

2012/5/30 RGB ES rgb.m...@gmail.com:
 2012/5/30 Marcelo Santana marcgsant...@yahoo.com.br:
 Hi folks,

 Now the repository is running[1], ready to provide a easier way to
 install Apache OpenOffice 3.4 on a Debian desktop with all available
 languages.

 [1]http://sourceforge.net/projects/apacheoo-deb/files/debian/

 For while we are providing only i386 and amd64 binaries but soon it
 will be available also the source code (with deb-src entry for
 sources.list file), according to the Debian policy and DFSG.

 Thank you Chris and Roberto for the Sourceforge support.

 Regards,


 Good! Repo promoted on EN, ES and IT forums ;)

+1

Social networking #AOOBr :)

Albino


Re: Debian repository for AOO

2012-05-29 Thread Roberto Galoppini
On Mon, May 28, 2012 at 9:04 PM, Claudio Filho filh...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi

 As I said some time ago, we have focus in give support of AOO in
 Debian, so a friend, Marcelo Santana, from Debian Brasil, is working
 in a Debian repository, beyound the debianization of AOO, at
 SourceForge[1]. Unhappyly, he was blocked because the excessive direct
 access in project space, so we need a space to share this repository.

May I know more about what the problem is? Maybe I can help with that.

Roberto

 I think that can use my userspace @apache.org.
 Is acceptable to do this? Can I share this repo in people.apache.org?
 [1]http://apacheoo-deb.sourceforge.net/

 Best,
 Claudio

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Re: Debian repository for AOO

2012-05-29 Thread Damjan Jovanovic
On Mon, May 28, 2012 at 10:30 PM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote:

 On Mon, May 28, 2012 at 3:04 PM, Claudio Filho filh...@gmail.com wrote:
  Hi
 
  As I said some time ago, we have focus in give support of AOO in
  Debian, so a friend, Marcelo Santana, from Debian Brasil, is working
  in a Debian repository, beyound the debianization of AOO, at
  SourceForge[1]. Unhappyly, he was blocked because the excessive direct
  access in project space, so we need a space to share this repository.
  I think that can use my userspace @apache.org.
  Is acceptable to do this? Can I share this repo in people.apache.org?
  [1]http://apacheoo-deb.sourceforge.net/
 

 I think Infra@ would have concerns about putting anything excessive
 on people.apache.org.   I would guess that bandwidth more an issue
 than storage here.

 -Rob

  Best,
  Claudio


If people.apache.org isn't an option, what about using Apache Labs?
http://labs.apache.org/

Damjan


Re: Debian repository for AOO

2012-05-29 Thread Fernando Cassia
On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 4:00 AM, Damjan Jovanovic damjan@gmail.comwrote:

 If people.apache.org isn't an option, what about using Apache Labs?
 http://labs.apache.org/


Is Google Code no good?.

If it's free, and AOO doesn't violate the TOS, why not use it?. That is,
assuming large binaries can be uploaded. I don't know.

I suspect it does, after reading this:
http://code.google.com/p/ant-googlecode/

Althought I'm not 100% sure if there is a size limit or not.

FC


Re: Debian repository for AOO

2012-05-29 Thread Nelson Marques
Why not using launchpad or openSUSE build service to build and
distribute? I'm not sure about launchpad status, but there seem to be
very nice mirrors worldwide of OBS.

I never did Debian builds, but there's a lot of people building for
Debian and Ubuntu.

NM


2012/5/29 Fernando Cassia fcas...@gmail.com:
 On Mon, May 28, 2012 at 8:27 PM, Nelson Marques nmo.marq...@gmail.comwrote:

 Is it ok to offer a suggestion ?


 Please, Nelson, of course it is ok, no need to ask :) just send it to the
 list.

 FC



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Re: Debian repository for AOO

2012-05-29 Thread RGB ES
2012/5/29 Nelson Marques nmo.marq...@gmail.com:
 Why not using launchpad or openSUSE build service to build and
 distribute? I'm not sure about launchpad status, but there seem to be
 very nice mirrors worldwide of OBS.

 I never did Debian builds, but there's a lot of people building for
 Debian and Ubuntu.

 NM


+1 the open build service can build package for several distros,
including fedora and ubuntu.

Ricardo


Re: Debian repository for AOO

2012-05-29 Thread Nelson Marques
I dont mind tagging along for Fedora/OpenSUSE builds using OBS, I
already have a few repos I manage which build cross-distribution. My
only big issue currently is dmake behavior. Having the sources to
build from autotools, cmake, scons or anything more popular would most
likely provide better grounds for massification.

NM

2012/5/29 RGB ES rgb.m...@gmail.com:
 2012/5/29 Nelson Marques nmo.marq...@gmail.com:
 Why not using launchpad or openSUSE build service to build and
 distribute? I'm not sure about launchpad status, but there seem to be
 very nice mirrors worldwide of OBS.

 I never did Debian builds, but there's a lot of people building for
 Debian and Ubuntu.

 NM


 +1 the open build service can build package for several distros,
 including fedora and ubuntu.

 Ricardo



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// I've stopped trying to understand sandwiches with a third piece of
bread in the middle...


Re: Debian repository for AOO

2012-05-29 Thread Christopher Tsai
Hello,

I run support for SourceForge, and one of my colleagues (Roberto) passed on
this message to me. Perhaps I can shed some light on this.

It looks like the previous attempt to host a Debian repo on our site[1] was
using the Project Web hosting space on our site, however, that space is
designed to be used only for web site content, not downloads. That
rationale, coupled with past abuse on that space led to us implementing the
bandwidth limits.
[1]http://apacheoo-deb.sourceforge.net/

The File Release System[2] on the other hand, does not have said bandwidth
limits, and while I haven't done this myself, I've heard from several users
that they've had no problems setting up a Debian repos in this space. They
said that all they did was set up the repo locally, then used rsync[3] to
upload it to the File Release System. Doing it this way also gives the
added benefit of utilizing both our worldwide mirror system, as well as our
file statistics systems.
[2]http://sourceforge.net/projects/apacheoo-deb/files/
[3]https://sourceforge.net/apps/trac/sourceforge/wiki/Rsync%20over%20SSH

Let me know if this helps!

Best Regards,
Chris Tsai
SourceForge Support
sfnet_...@geek.net

On Mon, May 28, 2012 at 3:43 PM, Roberto Galoppini rgalopp...@geek.netwrote:


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 From: Claudio Filho filh...@gmail.com
 Date: Mon, May 28, 2012 at 9:04 PM
 Subject: Debian repository for AOO
 To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org
 Cc: Marcelo Santana marcgsant...@yahoo.com.br


 Hi

 As I said some time ago, we have focus in give support of AOO in
 Debian, so a friend, Marcelo Santana, from Debian Brasil, is working
 in a Debian repository, beyound the debianization of AOO, at
 SourceForge[1]. Unhappyly, he was blocked because the excessive direct
 access in project space, so we need a space to share this repository.
 I think that can use my userspace @apache.org.
 Is acceptable to do this? Can I share this repo in people.apache.org?
 [1]http://apacheoo-deb.sourceforge.net/

 Best,
 Claudio


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Re: Debian repository for AOO

2012-05-29 Thread Christopher Tsai
Could you clarify why using the mirror system isn't appropriate? Several
users have told me that the mirror system works fine with the apt
repositories they set up, and it seems to me that using the mirror system
would provide better download availability and performance.

That is, if you hard code to files directly, you'd need to designate a
specific mirror (which we don't recommend), which would mean 1) some users
may be forced to a mirror halfway across the globe, 2) you'll run into
availability issues if the mirror goes down or needs to be taken offline
for some reason, and 3) you miss out on download statistics (which only get
logged if the downloads go through our mirror redirector).

Best Regards,
Chris Tsai
SourceForge Support
sfnet_...@geek.net

On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 12:14 PM, Marcelo Santana marcgsant...@yahoo.com.br
 wrote:

 On Tue, 29 May 2012 09:26:53 -0400, Christopher Tsai ct...@geek.net
 wrote:

  Hello,

 Hello Chistopher,

  I run support for SourceForge, and one of my colleagues (Roberto)
  passed on this message to me. Perhaps I can shed some light on this.
 
  It looks like the previous attempt to host a Debian repo on our
  site[1] was using the Project Web hosting space on our site,
  however, that space is designed to be used only for web site content,
  not downloads. That rationale, coupled with past abuse on that space
  led to us implementing the bandwidth limits.
  [1]http://apacheoo-deb.sourceforge.net/

 Yes, I had configured the web space as a Debian repository. When I
 saw the warning about temporary lock because of bandwidth limitation I
 stopped my tests and deleted all the files. My sincere apologies for
 the inconvenience.

  The File Release System[2] on the other hand, does not have said
  bandwidth limits, and while I haven't done this myself, I've heard
  from several users that they've had no problems setting up a Debian
  repos in this space. They said that all they did was set up the repo
  locally, then used rsync[3] to upload it to the File Release System.
  Doing it this way also gives the added benefit of utilizing both our
  worldwide mirror system, as well as our file statistics systems.
  [2]http://sourceforge.net/projects/apacheoo-deb/files/
  [3]https://sourceforge.net/apps/trac/sourceforge/wiki/Rsync%20over%20SSH
 
  Let me know if this helps!

 I've tried to set up the repository by the File Release System today
 but it isn't good for use as a Debian repository, because doesn't permit
 direct downloads but just via mirrors system.

 Is there another alternative to do this on sourceforge.net?

 We need a hosting with good bandwidth that provide direct access to
 download of archives from repository. Thus we can just add a new entry
 in /etc/apt/sources.list and run sudo apt-get update  sudo apt-get
 install openoffice.org3-writer... on any i386 or amd64 Debian machine
 or derivative.

 I hope this help to understand our needs.

 Regards,

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Re: Debian repository for AOO

2012-05-29 Thread Marcelo Santana
On Tue, 29 May 2012 09:26:53 -0400, Christopher Tsai ct...@geek.net
wrote:

 Hello,

Hello Chistopher,

 I run support for SourceForge, and one of my colleagues (Roberto)
 passed on this message to me. Perhaps I can shed some light on this.
 
 It looks like the previous attempt to host a Debian repo on our
 site[1] was using the Project Web hosting space on our site,
 however, that space is designed to be used only for web site content,
 not downloads. That rationale, coupled with past abuse on that space
 led to us implementing the bandwidth limits.
 [1]http://apacheoo-deb.sourceforge.net/

Yes, I had configured the web space as a Debian repository. When I
saw the warning about temporary lock because of bandwidth limitation I
stopped my tests and deleted all the files. My sincere apologies for
the inconvenience.
 
 The File Release System[2] on the other hand, does not have said
 bandwidth limits, and while I haven't done this myself, I've heard
 from several users that they've had no problems setting up a Debian
 repos in this space. They said that all they did was set up the repo
 locally, then used rsync[3] to upload it to the File Release System.
 Doing it this way also gives the added benefit of utilizing both our
 worldwide mirror system, as well as our file statistics systems.
 [2]http://sourceforge.net/projects/apacheoo-deb/files/
 [3]https://sourceforge.net/apps/trac/sourceforge/wiki/Rsync%20over%20SSH
 
 Let me know if this helps!

I've tried to set up the repository by the File Release System today
but it isn't good for use as a Debian repository, because doesn't permit
direct downloads but just via mirrors system.

Is there another alternative to do this on sourceforge.net? 

We need a hosting with good bandwidth that provide direct access to
download of archives from repository. Thus we can just add a new entry
in /etc/apt/sources.list and run sudo apt-get update  sudo apt-get
install openoffice.org3-writer... on any i386 or amd64 Debian machine
or derivative.

I hope this help to understand our needs.

Regards,

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Re: Debian repository for AOO

2012-05-29 Thread Marcelo Santana
On Tue, 29 May 2012 12:25:43 -0400, Christopher Tsai ct...@geek.net
wrote:

Hello Chris!

 Could you clarify why using the mirror system isn't appropriate?
 Several users have told me that the mirror system works fine with the
 apt repositories they set up, and it seems to me that using the
 mirror system would provide better download availability and
 performance.

 That is, if you hard code to files directly, you'd need to designate a
 specific mirror (which we don't recommend), which would mean 1) some
 users may be forced to a mirror halfway across the globe, 2) you'll
 run into availability issues if the mirror goes down or needs to be
 taken offline for some reason, and 3) you miss out on download
 statistics (which only get logged if the downloads go through our
 mirror redirector).

No doubt.

Now I understand how it works! \o/

Thank you so much for your help on #sourceforge IRC channel.

I'm configuring the repository, soon I'll publish how to use it. ;-)

Regards,

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Debian repository for AOO

2012-05-28 Thread Claudio Filho
Hi

As I said some time ago, we have focus in give support of AOO in
Debian, so a friend, Marcelo Santana, from Debian Brasil, is working
in a Debian repository, beyound the debianization of AOO, at
SourceForge[1]. Unhappyly, he was blocked because the excessive direct
access in project space, so we need a space to share this repository.
I think that can use my userspace @apache.org.
Is acceptable to do this? Can I share this repo in people.apache.org?
[1]http://apacheoo-deb.sourceforge.net/

Best,
Claudio


Re: Debian repository for AOO

2012-05-28 Thread Rob Weir
On Mon, May 28, 2012 at 3:04 PM, Claudio Filho filh...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi

 As I said some time ago, we have focus in give support of AOO in
 Debian, so a friend, Marcelo Santana, from Debian Brasil, is working
 in a Debian repository, beyound the debianization of AOO, at
 SourceForge[1]. Unhappyly, he was blocked because the excessive direct
 access in project space, so we need a space to share this repository.
 I think that can use my userspace @apache.org.
 Is acceptable to do this? Can I share this repo in people.apache.org?
 [1]http://apacheoo-deb.sourceforge.net/


I think Infra@ would have concerns about putting anything excessive
on people.apache.org.   I would guess that bandwidth more an issue
than storage here.

-Rob

 Best,
 Claudio


Re: Debian repository for AOO

2012-05-28 Thread Claudio Filho
Hi

2012/5/28 Rob Weir robw...@apache.org:
 I think Infra@ would have concerns about putting anything excessive
 on people.apache.org.   I would guess that bandwidth more an issue
 than storage here.

Exact, Rob. My doubt is to eat bandwidth and, as a good practice, i
asked before to preserve our infra after.

But maybe the request for bandwidth to provide debian packages is
minor that we think.

Claudio


Re: Debian repository for AOO

2012-05-28 Thread Fernando Cassia
On Mon, May 28, 2012 at 4:04 PM, Claudio Filho filh...@gmail.com wrote:

 Unhappyly, he was blocked because the excessive direct
 access in project space, so we need a space to share this repository.


Isn't there a way to upload files to code.google.com? (I don't know, just
thinking aloud, perhaps it's worth exploring).

I guess that, not matter how big the bandwidth used by Debian users, it
would be a minor percentage of the total google code bandwidth...

FC


Re: Debian repository for AOO

2012-05-28 Thread Nelson Marques
Is it ok to offer a suggestion ?

2012/5/28 Claudio Filho filh...@gmail.com:
 Hi

 As I said some time ago, we have focus in give support of AOO in
 Debian, so a friend, Marcelo Santana, from Debian Brasil, is working
 in a Debian repository, beyound the debianization of AOO, at
 SourceForge[1]. Unhappyly, he was blocked because the excessive direct
 access in project space, so we need a space to share this repository.
 I think that can use my userspace @apache.org.
 Is acceptable to do this? Can I share this repo in people.apache.org?
 [1]http://apacheoo-deb.sourceforge.net/

 Best,
 Claudio



-- 
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// I've stopped trying to understand sandwiches with a third piece of
bread in the middle...


Re: Debian repository for AOO

2012-05-28 Thread Fernando Cassia
On Mon, May 28, 2012 at 8:27 PM, Nelson Marques nmo.marq...@gmail.comwrote:

 Is it ok to offer a suggestion ?


Please, Nelson, of course it is ok, no need to ask :) just send it to the
list.

FC