Re: Debian repository for AOO
On 5/30/12 9:56 PM, Marcelo Santana wrote: Hi folks, Now the repository is running[1], ready to provide a easier way to install Apache OpenOffice 3.4 on a Debian desktop with all available languages. [1]http://sourceforge.net/projects/apacheoo-deb/files/debian/ For while we are providing only i386 and amd64 binaries but soon it will be available also the source code (with deb-src entry for sources.list file), according to the Debian policy and DFSG. Thank you Chris and Roberto for the Sourceforge support. great news Juergen
Re: Debian repository for AOO
2012/5/31 Jürgen Schmidt jogischm...@googlemail.com On 5/30/12 9:56 PM, Marcelo Santana wrote: Hi folks, Now the repository is running[1], ready to provide a easier way to install Apache OpenOffice 3.4 on a Debian desktop with all available languages. [1]http://sourceforge.net/projects/apacheoo-deb/files/debian/ For while we are providing only i386 and amd64 binaries but soon it will be available also the source code (with deb-src entry for sources.list file), according to the Debian policy and DFSG. Thank you Chris and Roberto for the Sourceforge support. great news Juergen I've made a tuto on how to use this repo in Debian/Ubuntu/Mint at https://almalivre.wordpress.com/2012/05/30/apache-openoffice-instalacao-via-repositorio-nao-oficial-para-debianubuntumint/(in portuguese). Do yout hink it's usefull to translate it to English and make it available somewhere? Thanks. -- Paulo de Souza Lima http://almalivre.wordpress.com Curitiba - PR Linux User #432358 Ubuntu User #28729
Re: Debian repository for AOO
Paolo, Yes please. An english translation published on the en support forum would ne great. Wolf http://evergreen-community-01.lyrasistechnology.org http://sourcefreedom.com Apache developer: wolfhal...@apache.org On May 31, 2012 8:51 AM, Paulo de Souza Lima paulo.s.l...@varekai.org wrote: snip I've made a tuto on how to use this repo in Debian/Ubuntu/Mint at https://almalivre.wordpress.com/2012/05/30/apache-openoffice-instalacao-via-repositorio-nao-oficial-para-debianubuntumint/(in portuguese). Do yout hink it's usefull to translate it to English and make it available somewhere? Thanks. -- Paulo de Souza Lima http://almalivre.wordpress.com Curitiba - PR Linux User #432358 Ubuntu User #28729
Re: Debian repository for AOO
Hi Marcelo. :) 2012/5/29 Marcelo Santana marcgsant...@yahoo.com.br: Now I understand how it works! \o/ Thank you so much for your help on #sourceforge IRC channel. I'm configuring the repository, soon I'll publish how to use it. ;-) Congratulation for the work, you and Claudio. Albino
Re: Debian repository for AOO
Hi folks, Now the repository is running[1], ready to provide a easier way to install Apache OpenOffice 3.4 on a Debian desktop with all available languages. [1]http://sourceforge.net/projects/apacheoo-deb/files/debian/ For while we are providing only i386 and amd64 binaries but soon it will be available also the source code (with deb-src entry for sources.list file), according to the Debian policy and DFSG. Thank you Chris and Roberto for the Sourceforge support. Regards, -- Marcelo G. Santana(aka msantana) | GNU/Linux User number: #208778 JID:marcelo.sant...@jabber-br.org | GNU Privacy Guard ID: 89C55467 http://blog.msantana.eng.br | http://identi.ca/mgsantana http://www.debianbrasil.org | http://br.gnome.org signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: Debian repository for AOO
2012/5/30 Marcelo Santana marcgsant...@yahoo.com.br: Hi folks, Now the repository is running[1], ready to provide a easier way to install Apache OpenOffice 3.4 on a Debian desktop with all available languages. [1]http://sourceforge.net/projects/apacheoo-deb/files/debian/ For while we are providing only i386 and amd64 binaries but soon it will be available also the source code (with deb-src entry for sources.list file), according to the Debian policy and DFSG. Thank you Chris and Roberto for the Sourceforge support. Regards, Good! Repo promoted on EN, ES and IT forums ;) Regards Ricardo
Re: Debian repository for AOO
Hi. 2012/5/30 RGB ES rgb.m...@gmail.com: 2012/5/30 Marcelo Santana marcgsant...@yahoo.com.br: Hi folks, Now the repository is running[1], ready to provide a easier way to install Apache OpenOffice 3.4 on a Debian desktop with all available languages. [1]http://sourceforge.net/projects/apacheoo-deb/files/debian/ For while we are providing only i386 and amd64 binaries but soon it will be available also the source code (with deb-src entry for sources.list file), according to the Debian policy and DFSG. Thank you Chris and Roberto for the Sourceforge support. Regards, Good! Repo promoted on EN, ES and IT forums ;) +1 Social networking #AOOBr :) Albino
Re: Debian repository for AOO
On Mon, May 28, 2012 at 9:04 PM, Claudio Filho filh...@gmail.com wrote: Hi As I said some time ago, we have focus in give support of AOO in Debian, so a friend, Marcelo Santana, from Debian Brasil, is working in a Debian repository, beyound the debianization of AOO, at SourceForge[1]. Unhappyly, he was blocked because the excessive direct access in project space, so we need a space to share this repository. May I know more about what the problem is? Maybe I can help with that. Roberto I think that can use my userspace @apache.org. Is acceptable to do this? Can I share this repo in people.apache.org? [1]http://apacheoo-deb.sourceforge.net/ Best, Claudio -- This e- mail message is intended only for the named recipient(s) above. It may contain confidential and privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this e-mail and any attachment(s) is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please immediately notify the sender by replying to this e-mail and delete the message and any attachment(s) from your system. Thank you.
Re: Debian repository for AOO
On Mon, May 28, 2012 at 10:30 PM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Mon, May 28, 2012 at 3:04 PM, Claudio Filho filh...@gmail.com wrote: Hi As I said some time ago, we have focus in give support of AOO in Debian, so a friend, Marcelo Santana, from Debian Brasil, is working in a Debian repository, beyound the debianization of AOO, at SourceForge[1]. Unhappyly, he was blocked because the excessive direct access in project space, so we need a space to share this repository. I think that can use my userspace @apache.org. Is acceptable to do this? Can I share this repo in people.apache.org? [1]http://apacheoo-deb.sourceforge.net/ I think Infra@ would have concerns about putting anything excessive on people.apache.org. I would guess that bandwidth more an issue than storage here. -Rob Best, Claudio If people.apache.org isn't an option, what about using Apache Labs? http://labs.apache.org/ Damjan
Re: Debian repository for AOO
On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 4:00 AM, Damjan Jovanovic damjan@gmail.comwrote: If people.apache.org isn't an option, what about using Apache Labs? http://labs.apache.org/ Is Google Code no good?. If it's free, and AOO doesn't violate the TOS, why not use it?. That is, assuming large binaries can be uploaded. I don't know. I suspect it does, after reading this: http://code.google.com/p/ant-googlecode/ Althought I'm not 100% sure if there is a size limit or not. FC
Re: Debian repository for AOO
Why not using launchpad or openSUSE build service to build and distribute? I'm not sure about launchpad status, but there seem to be very nice mirrors worldwide of OBS. I never did Debian builds, but there's a lot of people building for Debian and Ubuntu. NM 2012/5/29 Fernando Cassia fcas...@gmail.com: On Mon, May 28, 2012 at 8:27 PM, Nelson Marques nmo.marq...@gmail.comwrote: Is it ok to offer a suggestion ? Please, Nelson, of course it is ok, no need to ask :) just send it to the list. FC -- Nelson Marques // I've stopped trying to understand sandwiches with a third piece of bread in the middle...
Re: Debian repository for AOO
2012/5/29 Nelson Marques nmo.marq...@gmail.com: Why not using launchpad or openSUSE build service to build and distribute? I'm not sure about launchpad status, but there seem to be very nice mirrors worldwide of OBS. I never did Debian builds, but there's a lot of people building for Debian and Ubuntu. NM +1 the open build service can build package for several distros, including fedora and ubuntu. Ricardo
Re: Debian repository for AOO
I dont mind tagging along for Fedora/OpenSUSE builds using OBS, I already have a few repos I manage which build cross-distribution. My only big issue currently is dmake behavior. Having the sources to build from autotools, cmake, scons or anything more popular would most likely provide better grounds for massification. NM 2012/5/29 RGB ES rgb.m...@gmail.com: 2012/5/29 Nelson Marques nmo.marq...@gmail.com: Why not using launchpad or openSUSE build service to build and distribute? I'm not sure about launchpad status, but there seem to be very nice mirrors worldwide of OBS. I never did Debian builds, but there's a lot of people building for Debian and Ubuntu. NM +1 the open build service can build package for several distros, including fedora and ubuntu. Ricardo -- Nelson Marques // I've stopped trying to understand sandwiches with a third piece of bread in the middle...
Re: Debian repository for AOO
Hello, I run support for SourceForge, and one of my colleagues (Roberto) passed on this message to me. Perhaps I can shed some light on this. It looks like the previous attempt to host a Debian repo on our site[1] was using the Project Web hosting space on our site, however, that space is designed to be used only for web site content, not downloads. That rationale, coupled with past abuse on that space led to us implementing the bandwidth limits. [1]http://apacheoo-deb.sourceforge.net/ The File Release System[2] on the other hand, does not have said bandwidth limits, and while I haven't done this myself, I've heard from several users that they've had no problems setting up a Debian repos in this space. They said that all they did was set up the repo locally, then used rsync[3] to upload it to the File Release System. Doing it this way also gives the added benefit of utilizing both our worldwide mirror system, as well as our file statistics systems. [2]http://sourceforge.net/projects/apacheoo-deb/files/ [3]https://sourceforge.net/apps/trac/sourceforge/wiki/Rsync%20over%20SSH Let me know if this helps! Best Regards, Chris Tsai SourceForge Support sfnet_...@geek.net On Mon, May 28, 2012 at 3:43 PM, Roberto Galoppini rgalopp...@geek.netwrote: -- Forwarded message -- From: Claudio Filho filh...@gmail.com Date: Mon, May 28, 2012 at 9:04 PM Subject: Debian repository for AOO To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Cc: Marcelo Santana marcgsant...@yahoo.com.br Hi As I said some time ago, we have focus in give support of AOO in Debian, so a friend, Marcelo Santana, from Debian Brasil, is working in a Debian repository, beyound the debianization of AOO, at SourceForge[1]. Unhappyly, he was blocked because the excessive direct access in project space, so we need a space to share this repository. I think that can use my userspace @apache.org. Is acceptable to do this? Can I share this repo in people.apache.org? [1]http://apacheoo-deb.sourceforge.net/ Best, Claudio -- This e- mail message is intended only for the named recipient(s) above. It may contain confidential and privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this e-mail and any attachment(s) is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please immediately notify the sender by replying to this e-mail and delete the message and any attachment(s) from your system. Thank you.
Re: Debian repository for AOO
Could you clarify why using the mirror system isn't appropriate? Several users have told me that the mirror system works fine with the apt repositories they set up, and it seems to me that using the mirror system would provide better download availability and performance. That is, if you hard code to files directly, you'd need to designate a specific mirror (which we don't recommend), which would mean 1) some users may be forced to a mirror halfway across the globe, 2) you'll run into availability issues if the mirror goes down or needs to be taken offline for some reason, and 3) you miss out on download statistics (which only get logged if the downloads go through our mirror redirector). Best Regards, Chris Tsai SourceForge Support sfnet_...@geek.net On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 12:14 PM, Marcelo Santana marcgsant...@yahoo.com.br wrote: On Tue, 29 May 2012 09:26:53 -0400, Christopher Tsai ct...@geek.net wrote: Hello, Hello Chistopher, I run support for SourceForge, and one of my colleagues (Roberto) passed on this message to me. Perhaps I can shed some light on this. It looks like the previous attempt to host a Debian repo on our site[1] was using the Project Web hosting space on our site, however, that space is designed to be used only for web site content, not downloads. That rationale, coupled with past abuse on that space led to us implementing the bandwidth limits. [1]http://apacheoo-deb.sourceforge.net/ Yes, I had configured the web space as a Debian repository. When I saw the warning about temporary lock because of bandwidth limitation I stopped my tests and deleted all the files. My sincere apologies for the inconvenience. The File Release System[2] on the other hand, does not have said bandwidth limits, and while I haven't done this myself, I've heard from several users that they've had no problems setting up a Debian repos in this space. They said that all they did was set up the repo locally, then used rsync[3] to upload it to the File Release System. Doing it this way also gives the added benefit of utilizing both our worldwide mirror system, as well as our file statistics systems. [2]http://sourceforge.net/projects/apacheoo-deb/files/ [3]https://sourceforge.net/apps/trac/sourceforge/wiki/Rsync%20over%20SSH Let me know if this helps! I've tried to set up the repository by the File Release System today but it isn't good for use as a Debian repository, because doesn't permit direct downloads but just via mirrors system. Is there another alternative to do this on sourceforge.net? We need a hosting with good bandwidth that provide direct access to download of archives from repository. Thus we can just add a new entry in /etc/apt/sources.list and run sudo apt-get update sudo apt-get install openoffice.org3-writer... on any i386 or amd64 Debian machine or derivative. I hope this help to understand our needs. Regards, -- Marcelo G. Santana(aka msantana) | GNU/Linux User number: #208778 JID:marcelo.sant...@jabber-br.org | GNU Privacy Guard ID: 89C55467 http://blog.msantana.eng.br | http://identi.ca/mgsantana http://www.debianbrasil.org | http://br.gnome.org -- This e- mail message is intended only for the named recipient(s) above. It may contain confidential and privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this e-mail and any attachment(s) is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please immediately notify the sender by replying to this e-mail and delete the message and any attachment(s) from your system. Thank you.
Re: Debian repository for AOO
On Tue, 29 May 2012 09:26:53 -0400, Christopher Tsai ct...@geek.net wrote: Hello, Hello Chistopher, I run support for SourceForge, and one of my colleagues (Roberto) passed on this message to me. Perhaps I can shed some light on this. It looks like the previous attempt to host a Debian repo on our site[1] was using the Project Web hosting space on our site, however, that space is designed to be used only for web site content, not downloads. That rationale, coupled with past abuse on that space led to us implementing the bandwidth limits. [1]http://apacheoo-deb.sourceforge.net/ Yes, I had configured the web space as a Debian repository. When I saw the warning about temporary lock because of bandwidth limitation I stopped my tests and deleted all the files. My sincere apologies for the inconvenience. The File Release System[2] on the other hand, does not have said bandwidth limits, and while I haven't done this myself, I've heard from several users that they've had no problems setting up a Debian repos in this space. They said that all they did was set up the repo locally, then used rsync[3] to upload it to the File Release System. Doing it this way also gives the added benefit of utilizing both our worldwide mirror system, as well as our file statistics systems. [2]http://sourceforge.net/projects/apacheoo-deb/files/ [3]https://sourceforge.net/apps/trac/sourceforge/wiki/Rsync%20over%20SSH Let me know if this helps! I've tried to set up the repository by the File Release System today but it isn't good for use as a Debian repository, because doesn't permit direct downloads but just via mirrors system. Is there another alternative to do this on sourceforge.net? We need a hosting with good bandwidth that provide direct access to download of archives from repository. Thus we can just add a new entry in /etc/apt/sources.list and run sudo apt-get update sudo apt-get install openoffice.org3-writer... on any i386 or amd64 Debian machine or derivative. I hope this help to understand our needs. Regards, -- Marcelo G. Santana(aka msantana) | GNU/Linux User number: #208778 JID:marcelo.sant...@jabber-br.org | GNU Privacy Guard ID: 89C55467 http://blog.msantana.eng.br | http://identi.ca/mgsantana http://www.debianbrasil.org | http://br.gnome.org signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: Debian repository for AOO
On Tue, 29 May 2012 12:25:43 -0400, Christopher Tsai ct...@geek.net wrote: Hello Chris! Could you clarify why using the mirror system isn't appropriate? Several users have told me that the mirror system works fine with the apt repositories they set up, and it seems to me that using the mirror system would provide better download availability and performance. That is, if you hard code to files directly, you'd need to designate a specific mirror (which we don't recommend), which would mean 1) some users may be forced to a mirror halfway across the globe, 2) you'll run into availability issues if the mirror goes down or needs to be taken offline for some reason, and 3) you miss out on download statistics (which only get logged if the downloads go through our mirror redirector). No doubt. Now I understand how it works! \o/ Thank you so much for your help on #sourceforge IRC channel. I'm configuring the repository, soon I'll publish how to use it. ;-) Regards, -- Marcelo G. Santana(aka msantana) | GNU/Linux User number: #208778 JID:marcelo.sant...@jabber-br.org | GNU Privacy Guard ID: 89C55467 http://blog.msantana.eng.br | http://identi.ca/mgsantana http://www.debianbrasil.org | http://br.gnome.org signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Debian repository for AOO
Hi As I said some time ago, we have focus in give support of AOO in Debian, so a friend, Marcelo Santana, from Debian Brasil, is working in a Debian repository, beyound the debianization of AOO, at SourceForge[1]. Unhappyly, he was blocked because the excessive direct access in project space, so we need a space to share this repository. I think that can use my userspace @apache.org. Is acceptable to do this? Can I share this repo in people.apache.org? [1]http://apacheoo-deb.sourceforge.net/ Best, Claudio
Re: Debian repository for AOO
On Mon, May 28, 2012 at 3:04 PM, Claudio Filho filh...@gmail.com wrote: Hi As I said some time ago, we have focus in give support of AOO in Debian, so a friend, Marcelo Santana, from Debian Brasil, is working in a Debian repository, beyound the debianization of AOO, at SourceForge[1]. Unhappyly, he was blocked because the excessive direct access in project space, so we need a space to share this repository. I think that can use my userspace @apache.org. Is acceptable to do this? Can I share this repo in people.apache.org? [1]http://apacheoo-deb.sourceforge.net/ I think Infra@ would have concerns about putting anything excessive on people.apache.org. I would guess that bandwidth more an issue than storage here. -Rob Best, Claudio
Re: Debian repository for AOO
Hi 2012/5/28 Rob Weir robw...@apache.org: I think Infra@ would have concerns about putting anything excessive on people.apache.org. I would guess that bandwidth more an issue than storage here. Exact, Rob. My doubt is to eat bandwidth and, as a good practice, i asked before to preserve our infra after. But maybe the request for bandwidth to provide debian packages is minor that we think. Claudio
Re: Debian repository for AOO
On Mon, May 28, 2012 at 4:04 PM, Claudio Filho filh...@gmail.com wrote: Unhappyly, he was blocked because the excessive direct access in project space, so we need a space to share this repository. Isn't there a way to upload files to code.google.com? (I don't know, just thinking aloud, perhaps it's worth exploring). I guess that, not matter how big the bandwidth used by Debian users, it would be a minor percentage of the total google code bandwidth... FC
Re: Debian repository for AOO
Is it ok to offer a suggestion ? 2012/5/28 Claudio Filho filh...@gmail.com: Hi As I said some time ago, we have focus in give support of AOO in Debian, so a friend, Marcelo Santana, from Debian Brasil, is working in a Debian repository, beyound the debianization of AOO, at SourceForge[1]. Unhappyly, he was blocked because the excessive direct access in project space, so we need a space to share this repository. I think that can use my userspace @apache.org. Is acceptable to do this? Can I share this repo in people.apache.org? [1]http://apacheoo-deb.sourceforge.net/ Best, Claudio -- Nelson Marques // I've stopped trying to understand sandwiches with a third piece of bread in the middle...
Re: Debian repository for AOO
On Mon, May 28, 2012 at 8:27 PM, Nelson Marques nmo.marq...@gmail.comwrote: Is it ok to offer a suggestion ? Please, Nelson, of course it is ok, no need to ask :) just send it to the list. FC