Re: How To Install Apache OpenOffice 3.4 Via PPA On Ubuntu 12.04/11.10
On Mon, May 14, 2012 at 8:49 PM, drew d...@baseanswers.com wrote: On Mon, 2012-05-14 at 14:32 -0700, Kay Schenk wrote: On 05/11/2012 05:42 AM, drew jensen wrote: On Fri, 2012-05-11 at 18:01 +0800, Chao Huang wrote: I'm trying on Ubuntu 11.04. But got failed :( Do I have to upgrade my system from 11.04 to 11.10? Yes - for that particular PPA - that would be true. *sudo add-apt-repository ppa:upubuntu-com/office* *sudo apt-get update* ** *sudo apt-get install openoffice* OK, drew, * I see this is still in the install guide...maybe, given other considerations that have recently popped up (so many in fact!), we should just remove it? What do you think? I think you are right, in that it should not be on that page. I think we (and I mean we) might of jumped a little too quickly there. IMO upubuntu.com is, from what I can ascertain, acting in a way which the project should not, necessarily, object to as there seems no real harm, however one which personally I am not comfortable with. I rather think in this case they certainly should of sought the project's approval first. With an eye to location on our site, as is, I would not put a link on this page[1], it makes it seem too much a recommended and sanctioned distribution IMO. I would not be against treating it as a short term news item, and perhaps in whatever manner the group decides to treat sites offering CD(DVD) images or disks. //drew [1] http://www.openoffice.org/download/common/instructions.html#other_linux OK, I will take care of this later today. 2012/5/11 Rob Weirrobw...@apache.org http://www.upubuntu.com/2012/05/how-to-install-apache-openoffice-34-via.html Is there someplace on the website or wiki where we could add this link? Maybe the release notes? -Rob -- MzK Well, life has a funny way of sneaking up on you And life has a funny way of helping you out Helping you out. -- Ironic, Alanis Morissette
Re: How To Install Apache OpenOffice 3.4 Via PPA On Ubuntu 12.04/11.10
On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 4:59 PM, drew d...@baseanswers.com wrote: On Thu, 2012-05-10 at 16:33 -0700, Kay Schenk wrote: On 05/10/2012 03:50 PM, Andrew Rist wrote: On 5/10/2012 3:40 PM, Kay Schenk wrote: On 05/10/2012 10:21 AM, Rob Weir wrote: http://www.upubuntu.com/2012/05/how-to-install-apache-openoffice-34-via.html Is there someplace on the website or wiki where we could add this link? Maybe the release notes? -Rob This is added to the instructions page now... Are we comfortable with this install? Do we know who upubuntu are? As far as I can tell, they have done a file dif on an installed system and zipped up the file changes and delivered them in a .deb (over simplification - but you get the idea) I think this packaging falls short in terms of proper structuring of dependencies, managing the overlap with LO on the system, and general PPMC control of the package. Pointing it out on the G+ is one thing, writing it into our instructions might be something to rethink. A. Well you have a point...it can easily be removed by me or anyone who can edit the page. Hi Kay, Since it's there now, I wouldn't run up and yank it down, but I am rather close to doing so..depending. It definitely includes all the mimetype icon replacements and changes to system menu settings, as you can see from browsing the ppa logs - it if messes up the system I likely will update the page though, alright? yeah, no problem...I completely understand!! We need to spend SOME time dealing with the vetting issue generally speaking. Right now, we've also been notified of a Solaris build. What to do when these things pop up? //drew But, there is the disclaimer at the beginning and a Note at the end of this particular section that these packages. It could probably use some editing though, ...and this... managing the overlap with LO on the system...hmmm...do you think this should be covered in the instructions anyway? We could make an attempt. Really, I don't know what in our standard release deals with this. If someone would provide details to include in the installation instructions, this would be very helpful. -- MzK Well, life has a funny way of sneaking up on you And life has a funny way of helping you out Helping you out. -- Ironic, Alanis Morissette
Re: How To Install Apache OpenOffice 3.4 Via PPA On Ubuntu 12.04/11.10
On 05/11/2012 05:42 AM, drew jensen wrote: On Fri, 2012-05-11 at 18:01 +0800, Chao Huang wrote: I'm trying on Ubuntu 11.04. But got failed :( Do I have to upgrade my system from 11.04 to 11.10? Yes - for that particular PPA - that would be true. *sudo add-apt-repository ppa:upubuntu-com/office* *sudo apt-get update* ** *sudo apt-get install openoffice* OK, drew, * I see this is still in the install guide...maybe, given other considerations that have recently popped up (so many in fact!), we should just remove it? What do you think? 2012/5/11 Rob Weirrobw...@apache.org http://www.upubuntu.com/2012/05/how-to-install-apache-openoffice-34-via.html Is there someplace on the website or wiki where we could add this link? Maybe the release notes? -Rob -- MzK Well, life has a funny way of sneaking up on you And life has a funny way of helping you out Helping you out. -- Ironic, Alanis Morissette
Re: How To Install Apache OpenOffice 3.4 Via PPA On Ubuntu 12.04/11.10
On Mon, 2012-05-14 at 14:32 -0700, Kay Schenk wrote: On 05/11/2012 05:42 AM, drew jensen wrote: On Fri, 2012-05-11 at 18:01 +0800, Chao Huang wrote: I'm trying on Ubuntu 11.04. But got failed :( Do I have to upgrade my system from 11.04 to 11.10? Yes - for that particular PPA - that would be true. *sudo add-apt-repository ppa:upubuntu-com/office* *sudo apt-get update* ** *sudo apt-get install openoffice* OK, drew, * I see this is still in the install guide...maybe, given other considerations that have recently popped up (so many in fact!), we should just remove it? What do you think? I think you are right, in that it should not be on that page. I think we (and I mean we) might of jumped a little too quickly there. IMO upubuntu.com is, from what I can ascertain, acting in a way which the project should not, necessarily, object to as there seems no real harm, however one which personally I am not comfortable with. I rather think in this case they certainly should of sought the project's approval first. With an eye to location on our site, as is, I would not put a link on this page[1], it makes it seem too much a recommended and sanctioned distribution IMO. I would not be against treating it as a short term news item, and perhaps in whatever manner the group decides to treat sites offering CD(DVD) images or disks. //drew [1] http://www.openoffice.org/download/common/instructions.html#other_linux 2012/5/11 Rob Weirrobw...@apache.org http://www.upubuntu.com/2012/05/how-to-install-apache-openoffice-34-via.html Is there someplace on the website or wiki where we could add this link? Maybe the release notes? -Rob
Re: How To Install Apache OpenOffice 3.4 Via PPA On Ubuntu 12.04/11.10
On 11 May 2012 01:52, Albino Biasutti Neto biasut...@gmail.com wrote: Hi. 2012/5/10 Paulo de Souza Lima paulo.s.l...@varekai.org I put a pt-br translation at http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/PT-BR/FAQ/Instala%C3%A7%C3%A3ofor now. as soon as a place for it is defined we can move it to there. Thanks Paulo. Spreading social networking. :) @apacheoobr Best, Albino I installed from upubuntu yesterday and it was very easy and no problems so far. One thing straight away is the better way that draw handles svg than is the case with LibreO. -- Ian Ofqual Accredited IT Qualifications (The Schools ITQ) www.theINGOTs.org +44 (0)1827 305940 The Learning Machine Limited, Reg Office, 36 Ashby Road, Tamworth, Staffordshire, B79 8AQ. Reg No: 05560797, Registered in England and Wales.
Re: How To Install Apache OpenOffice 3.4 Via PPA On Ubuntu 12.04/11.10
I'm trying on Ubuntu 11.04. But got failed :( Do I have to upgrade my system from 11.04 to 11.10? *sudo add-apt-repository ppa:upubuntu-com/office* *sudo apt-get update* ** *sudo apt-get install openoffice* 2012/5/11 Rob Weir robw...@apache.org http://www.upubuntu.com/2012/05/how-to-install-apache-openoffice-34-via.html Is there someplace on the website or wiki where we could add this link? Maybe the release notes? -Rob -- Best regards, Chao Huang
Re: How To Install Apache OpenOffice 3.4 Via PPA On Ubuntu 12.04/11.10
On Fri, 2012-05-11 at 18:01 +0800, Chao Huang wrote: I'm trying on Ubuntu 11.04. But got failed :( Do I have to upgrade my system from 11.04 to 11.10? Yes - for that particular PPA - that would be true. *sudo add-apt-repository ppa:upubuntu-com/office* *sudo apt-get update* ** *sudo apt-get install openoffice* 2012/5/11 Rob Weir robw...@apache.org http://www.upubuntu.com/2012/05/how-to-install-apache-openoffice-34-via.html Is there someplace on the website or wiki where we could add this link? Maybe the release notes? -Rob
How To Install Apache OpenOffice 3.4 Via PPA On Ubuntu 12.04/11.10
http://www.upubuntu.com/2012/05/how-to-install-apache-openoffice-34-via.html Is there someplace on the website or wiki where we could add this link? Maybe the release notes? -Rob
Re: How To Install Apache OpenOffice 3.4 Via PPA On Ubuntu 12.04/11.10
Hi Rob Weir wrote: http://www.upubuntu.com/2012/05/how-to-install-apache-openoffice-34-via.html Is there someplace on the website or wiki where we could add this link? Maybe the release notes? OOo used to have install instructions for Linux and other OSes, and these were, IIRC, linked to from the a) download page b) support page. That latter, http://support.openoffice.org/ , could be reused, modulo today's reality. louis -Rob
Re: How To Install Apache OpenOffice 3.4 Via PPA On Ubuntu 12.04/11.10
On Thu, 2012-05-10 at 13:21 -0400, Rob Weir wrote: http://www.upubuntu.com/2012/05/how-to-install-apache-openoffice-34-via.html Is there someplace on the website or wiki where we could add this link? Maybe the release notes? I'm trying the (11.10) install just now - no idea who this is, glad they got to it so directly, however. A mention someplace on the site would be great, imo. //drew -Rob - To unsubscribe, e-mail: ooo-users-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: ooo-users-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: How To Install Apache OpenOffice 3.4 Via PPA On Ubuntu 12.04/11.10
On Thu, 2012-05-10 at 13:43 -0400, drew wrote: On Thu, 2012-05-10 at 13:21 -0400, Rob Weir wrote: http://www.upubuntu.com/2012/05/how-to-install-apache-openoffice-34-via.html Is there someplace on the website or wiki where we could add this link? Maybe the release notes? I'm trying the (11.10) install just now - no idea who this is, glad they got to it so directly, however. Whooowhooo - I started by installing Ubuntu 11.10, clean, into a virtualBox VM - then followed the steps - the ppa is installing now, a svelte 325 Megs download - and slow.. load maybe? I'll let you know how it goes, when it finishes. A mention someplace on the site would be great, imo. //drew -Rob - To unsubscribe, e-mail: ooo-users-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: ooo-users-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: How To Install Apache OpenOffice 3.4 Via PPA On Ubuntu 12.04/11.10
I'm going to translate it to pt-BR. Cheers 2012/5/10 drew d...@baseanswers.com On Thu, 2012-05-10 at 13:21 -0400, Rob Weir wrote: http://www.upubuntu.com/2012/05/how-to-install-apache-openoffice-34-via.html Is there someplace on the website or wiki where we could add this link? Maybe the release notes? I'm trying the (11.10) install just now - no idea who this is, glad they got to it so directly, however. A mention someplace on the site would be great, imo. //drew -Rob - To unsubscribe, e-mail: ooo-users-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: ooo-users-h...@incubator.apache.org -- Paulo de Souza Lima Técnico em Eletrônica e Administrador http://www.pasl.net.br http://almalivre.wordpress.com Curitiba - PR Linux User #432358 Ubuntu User #28729 Para que as pessoas conquistem a paz em suas relações, a paz espiritual e a paz entre os povos, é preciso que antes se ganhe a batalha interna das virtudes sobre os defeitos - Talal Husseini - Filósofo Acropolitano For people to achieve peace in their relationships, spiritual peace and the peace among people, it's necessary, earlier, to win the internal battle between virtues and defects - Talal Husseini - Acropolitan Philosopher
Re: How To Install Apache OpenOffice 3.4 Via PPA On Ubuntu 12.04/11.10
On Thu, 10 May 2012 13:43:30 -0400 drew d...@baseanswers.com wrote: On Thu, 2012-05-10 at 13:21 -0400, Rob Weir wrote: http://www.upubuntu.com/2012/05/how-to-install-apache-openoffice-34-via.html Is there someplace on the website or wiki where we could add this link? Maybe the release notes? I'm trying the (11.10) install just now - no idea who this is, glad they got to it so directly, however. A mention someplace on the site would be great, imo. //drew I downloaded a prebuilt (en-US) for 32 bit Ubuntu and installed in the usual way as set out on Forum tutorial. No problems except it complained on first startup, needing a Java. I forced it closed, restarted and setup the Java quickly under /Tools /Options before it could complain. Been editing with it all day, no problems. en-GB version or Language pack would be nice. -- Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie
Re: How To Install Apache OpenOffice 3.4 Via PPA On Ubuntu 12.04/11.10
On Thursday, 10. May 2012 at 20:35, Rory O'Farrell wrote: On Thu, 10 May 2012 13:43:30 -0400 drew d...@baseanswers.com wrote: On Thu, 2012-05-10 at 13:21 -0400, Rob Weir wrote: http://www.upubuntu.com/2012/05/how-to-install-apache-openoffice-34-via.html Is there someplace on the website or wiki where we could add this link? Maybe the release notes? I'm trying the (11.10) install just now - no idea who this is, glad they got to it so directly, however. A mention someplace on the site would be great, imo. //drew I downloaded a prebuilt (en-US) for 32 bit Ubuntu and installed in the usual way as set out on Forum tutorial. No problems except it complained on first startup, needing a Java. I forced it closed, restarted and setup the Java quickly under /Tools /Options before it could complain. Been editing with it all day, no problems. en-GB version or Language pack would be will coming with the next update 3.4.1 Juergen -- Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie
Re: How To Install Apache OpenOffice 3.4 Via PPA On Ubuntu 12.04/11.10
2012/5/10 Juergen Schmidt jogischm...@googlemail.com On Thursday, 10. May 2012 at 20:35, Rory O'Farrell wrote: On Thu, 10 May 2012 13:43:30 -0400 drew d...@baseanswers.com wrote: On Thu, 2012-05-10 at 13:21 -0400, Rob Weir wrote: http://www.upubuntu.com/2012/05/how-to-install-apache-openoffice-34-via.html Is there someplace on the website or wiki where we could add this link? Maybe the release notes? I put a pt-br translation at http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/PT-BR/FAQ/Instala%C3%A7%C3%A3o for now. as soon as a place for it is defined we can move it to there. -- Paulo de Souza Lima Técnico em Eletrônica e Administrador http://www.pasl.net.br http://almalivre.wordpress.com Curitiba - PR Linux User #432358 Ubuntu User #28729 Para que as pessoas conquistem a paz em suas relações, a paz espiritual e a paz entre os povos, é preciso que antes se ganhe a batalha interna das virtudes sobre os defeitos - Talal Husseini - Filósofo Acropolitano For people to achieve peace in their relationships, spiritual peace and the peace among people, it's necessary, earlier, to win the internal battle between virtues and defects - Talal Husseini - Acropolitan Philosopher
Re: How To Install Apache OpenOffice 3.4 Via PPA On Ubuntu 12.04/11.10
On 05/10/2012 10:21 AM, Rob Weir wrote: http://www.upubuntu.com/2012/05/how-to-install-apache-openoffice-34-via.html Is there someplace on the website or wiki where we could add this link? Maybe the release notes? I'll add it to the install guide where references to linux packages are already discussed... -Rob -- MzK Well, life has a funny way of sneaking up on you And life has a funny way of helping you out Helping you out. -- Ironic, Alanis Morissette
Re: How To Install Apache OpenOffice 3.4 Via PPA On Ubuntu 12.04/11.10
On 05/10/2012 10:21 AM, Rob Weir wrote: http://www.upubuntu.com/2012/05/how-to-install-apache-openoffice-34-via.html Is there someplace on the website or wiki where we could add this link? Maybe the release notes? -Rob This is added to the instructions page now... -- MzK Well, life has a funny way of sneaking up on you And life has a funny way of helping you out Helping you out. -- Ironic, Alanis Morissette
Re: How To Install Apache OpenOffice 3.4 Via PPA On Ubuntu 12.04/11.10
On 5/10/2012 3:40 PM, Kay Schenk wrote: On 05/10/2012 10:21 AM, Rob Weir wrote: http://www.upubuntu.com/2012/05/how-to-install-apache-openoffice-34-via.html Is there someplace on the website or wiki where we could add this link? Maybe the release notes? -Rob This is added to the instructions page now... Are we comfortable with this install? Do we know who upubuntu are? As far as I can tell, they have done a file dif on an installed system and zipped up the file changes and delivered them in a .deb (over simplification - but you get the idea) I think this packaging falls short in terms of proper structuring of dependencies, managing the overlap with LO on the system, and general PPMC control of the package. Pointing it out on the G+ is one thing, writing it into our instructions might be something to rethink. A.
Re: How To Install Apache OpenOffice 3.4 Via PPA On Ubuntu 12.04/11.10
On 05/10/2012 03:50 PM, Andrew Rist wrote: On 5/10/2012 3:40 PM, Kay Schenk wrote: On 05/10/2012 10:21 AM, Rob Weir wrote: http://www.upubuntu.com/2012/05/how-to-install-apache-openoffice-34-via.html Is there someplace on the website or wiki where we could add this link? Maybe the release notes? -Rob This is added to the instructions page now... Are we comfortable with this install? Do we know who upubuntu are? As far as I can tell, they have done a file dif on an installed system and zipped up the file changes and delivered them in a .deb (over simplification - but you get the idea) I think this packaging falls short in terms of proper structuring of dependencies, managing the overlap with LO on the system, and general PPMC control of the package. Pointing it out on the G+ is one thing, writing it into our instructions might be something to rethink. A. Well you have a point...it can easily be removed by me or anyone who can edit the page. But, there is the disclaimer at the beginning and a Note at the end of this particular section that these packages. It could probably use some editing though, ...and this... managing the overlap with LO on the system...hmmm...do you think this should be covered in the instructions anyway? We could make an attempt. Really, I don't know what in our standard release deals with this. If someone would provide details to include in the installation instructions, this would be very helpful. -- MzK Well, life has a funny way of sneaking up on you And life has a funny way of helping you out Helping you out. -- Ironic, Alanis Morissette
Re: How To Install Apache OpenOffice 3.4 Via PPA On Ubuntu 12.04/11.10
On Thu, 2012-05-10 at 15:50 -0700, Andrew Rist wrote: On 5/10/2012 3:40 PM, Kay Schenk wrote: On 05/10/2012 10:21 AM, Rob Weir wrote: http://www.upubuntu.com/2012/05/how-to-install-apache-openoffice-34-via.html Is there someplace on the website or wiki where we could add this link? Maybe the release notes? -Rob This is added to the instructions page now... Are we comfortable with this install? Do we know who upubuntu are? As far as I can tell, they have done a file dif on an installed system and zipped up the file changes and delivered them in a .deb (over simplification - but you get the idea) I think this packaging falls short in terms of proper structuring of dependencies, managing the overlap with LO on the system, and general PPMC control of the package. I think you may be correct - but I'm still, if the indicator is to be trusted, 3 hours away from the download finishing. Pointing it out on the G+ is one thing, writing it into our instructions might be something to rethink. I'd agree - was excited about the first mention of the package, but it should not go to our website without a bit more vetting, I would think; //drew A.
Re: How To Install Apache OpenOffice 3.4 Via PPA On Ubuntu 12.04/11.10
On Thu, 2012-05-10 at 16:33 -0700, Kay Schenk wrote: On 05/10/2012 03:50 PM, Andrew Rist wrote: On 5/10/2012 3:40 PM, Kay Schenk wrote: On 05/10/2012 10:21 AM, Rob Weir wrote: http://www.upubuntu.com/2012/05/how-to-install-apache-openoffice-34-via.html Is there someplace on the website or wiki where we could add this link? Maybe the release notes? -Rob This is added to the instructions page now... Are we comfortable with this install? Do we know who upubuntu are? As far as I can tell, they have done a file dif on an installed system and zipped up the file changes and delivered them in a .deb (over simplification - but you get the idea) I think this packaging falls short in terms of proper structuring of dependencies, managing the overlap with LO on the system, and general PPMC control of the package. Pointing it out on the G+ is one thing, writing it into our instructions might be something to rethink. A. Well you have a point...it can easily be removed by me or anyone who can edit the page. Hi Kay, Since it's there now, I wouldn't run up and yank it down, but I am rather close to doing so..depending. It definitely includes all the mimetype icon replacements and changes to system menu settings, as you can see from browsing the ppa logs - it if messes up the system I likely will update the page though, alright? //drew But, there is the disclaimer at the beginning and a Note at the end of this particular section that these packages. It could probably use some editing though, ...and this... managing the overlap with LO on the system...hmmm...do you think this should be covered in the instructions anyway? We could make an attempt. Really, I don't know what in our standard release deals with this. If someone would provide details to include in the installation instructions, this would be very helpful.
Re: How To Install Apache OpenOffice 3.4 Via PPA On Ubuntu 12.04/11.10
Hi. 2012/5/10 Paulo de Souza Lima paulo.s.l...@varekai.org I put a pt-br translation at http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/PT-BR/FAQ/Instala%C3%A7%C3%A3ofor now. as soon as a place for it is defined we can move it to there. Thanks Paulo. Spreading social networking. :) @apacheoobr Best, Albino
