Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Electronic title - search filter
It is always a better thing to get a legitimate record for the item in had rather than to get “creative” with an nonmatching record. You never know when a mishmash record will cause other problems down the line. There are reasons for cataloging standards. If you use OCLC for a bibliographic utility, there is likely a good e-resource record you can use. If not, deriving one from a good print record is not that hard. Elaine J. Elaine Hardy PINES Collaborative Projects Manager Georgia Public Library Service 1800 Century Place, Ste 150 Atlanta, Ga. 30345-4304 404.235.7128 404.235.7201, fax eha...@georgialibraries.org www.georgialibraries.org www.georgialibraries.org/pines From: Open-ils-general [mailto:open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org] On Behalf Of Donald Butterworth Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2015 1:26 PM To: Evergreen Discussion Group Subject: Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Electronic title - search filter Hi Elaine, Kathy's information confirms my cataloging dilemma. Changing Form to s actually changes a print record into an electronic record. Technically I should add a whole new bib record for the electronic version. (Lot o' work) Creating a copy/item record would be less work, and as Jennifer points out you could then use the Circ Modifier as a filter. But that doesn't fit into the default search filter options. There's always a problem when a cataloger gets creative. I probably should go ahead and just find a legitimate bib record for the titles and be done. Oh well ... Don On Mon, Feb 16, 2015 at 8:31 AM, Hardy, Elaine eha...@georgialibraries.org wrote: Don, As others have said, the search filter is for the MARC fixed field Form (008/23). I don’t know if the 006/06 is also included in the filter or if it can be added. Are you adding an 856 to a record for another format rather than using a MARC record for the e-resource? Elaine J. Elaine Hardy PINES Collaborative Projects Manager Georgia Public Library Service 1800 Century Place, Ste 150 Atlanta, Ga. 30345-4304 404.235.7128 404.235.7201, fax eha...@georgialibraries.org www.georgialibraries.org www.georgialibraries.org/pines From: Open-ils-general [mailto:open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org] On Behalf Of Donald Butterworth Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2015 3:29 PM To: Evergreen Discussion Group Subject: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Electronic title - search filter All, Simply adding an 856 tag to a MARC record does not make it possible to do a search for the described electronic resource using the Advanced Search Filter, Item Form: Electronic. What hook can be added to the bib record so that the Search Filter can be used? Thanks, Don -- Don Butterworth Faculty Associate / Librarian III B.L. Fisher Library Asbury Theological Seminary don.butterwo...@asburyseminary.edu (859) 858-2227 tel:%28859%29%20858-2227 -- Don Butterworth Faculty Associate / Librarian III B.L. Fisher Library Asbury Theological Seminary don.butterwo...@asburyseminary.edu (859) 858-2227
Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Electronic title - search filter
Hi Elaine, Kathy's information confirms my cataloging dilemma. Changing Form to s actually changes a print record into an electronic record. Technically I should add a whole new bib record for the electronic version. (Lot o' work) Creating a copy/item record would be less work, and as Jennifer points out you could then use the Circ Modifier as a filter. But that doesn't fit into the default search filter options. There's always a problem when a cataloger gets creative. I probably should go ahead and just find a legitimate bib record for the titles and be done. Oh well ... Don On Mon, Feb 16, 2015 at 8:31 AM, Hardy, Elaine eha...@georgialibraries.org wrote: Don, As others have said, the search filter is for the MARC fixed field Form (008/23). I don’t know if the 006/06 is also included in the filter or if it can be added. Are you adding an 856 to a record for another format rather than using a MARC record for the e-resource? *Elaine* J. Elaine Hardy PINES Collaborative Projects Manager Georgia Public Library Service 1800 Century Place, Ste 150 Atlanta, Ga. 30345-4304 404.235.7128 404.235.7201, fax eha...@georgialibraries.org www.georgialibraries.org www.georgialibraries.org/pines *From:* Open-ils-general [mailto: open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org] *On Behalf Of *Donald Butterworth *Sent:* Thursday, February 12, 2015 3:29 PM *To:* Evergreen Discussion Group *Subject:* [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Electronic title - search filter All, Simply adding an 856 tag to a MARC record does not make it possible to do a search for the described electronic resource using the Advanced Search Filter, Item Form: Electronic. What hook can be added to the bib record so that the Search Filter can be used? Thanks, Don -- Don Butterworth Faculty Associate / Librarian III B.L. Fisher Library Asbury Theological Seminary don.butterwo...@asburyseminary.edu (859) 858-2227 -- Don Butterworth Faculty Associate / Librarian III B.L. Fisher Library Asbury Theological Seminary don.butterwo...@asburyseminary.edu (859) 858-2227
Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Electronic title - search filter
Don, This is a subject that I have recently put many hours into. This begs the question: How many bibs do we have that should be flagged as electronic but do not have the proper MARC flags in the leader/06 and 008/23? We have been slowly developing methods of correcting the catalog. One example: Bibs that contain 856 indicator2=0 but without the 008/23 correctly designated. This query may help you identify those bibs select id from biblio.record_entry where id in (select record from metabib.real_full_rec where tag=$$856$$ and ind2=$$0$$) AND marc ~ $$leader..[at]$$ and marc !~ $$tag=008...[oqs]$$ and marc !~ $$tag=006..[oqs]$$ This will result in a list of bib ID's that are not currently cataloged as Electronic but do contain an 856 with the linking indicators. The mere presence of the 856 doesn't mean that the bib should be converted to Electronic but it's a good start. We added more logic to the decision making code but this query might get you started. Perhaps it can narrow your scope. We created an Evergreen conference proposal to go over our development. -Blake- Conducting Magic MOBIUS 573-234-4513 877-312-3517 On 2/19/2015 12:25 PM, Donald Butterworth wrote: Hi Elaine, Kathy's information confirms my cataloging dilemma. Changing Form to s actually changes a print record into an electronic record. Technically I should add a whole new bib record for the electronic version. (Lot o' work) Creating a copy/item record would be less work, and as Jennifer points out you could then use the Circ Modifier as a filter. But that doesn't fit into the default search filter options. There's always a problem when a cataloger gets creative. I probably should go ahead and just find a legitimate bib record for the titles and be done. Oh well ... Don On Mon, Feb 16, 2015 at 8:31 AM, Hardy, Elaine eha...@georgialibraries.org mailto:eha...@georgialibraries.org wrote: Don, As others have said, the search filter is for the MARC fixed field Form (008/23). I don’t know if the 006/06 is also included in the filter or if it can be added. Are you adding an 856 to a record for another format rather than using a MARC record for the e-resource? /Elaine/ J. Elaine Hardy PINES Collaborative Projects Manager Georgia Public Library Service 1800 Century Place, Ste 150 Atlanta, Ga. 30345-4304 404.235.7128 tel:404.235.7128 404.235.7201 tel:404.235.7201, fax eha...@georgialibraries.org mailto:eha...@georgialibraries.org www.georgialibraries.org http://www.georgialibraries.org www.georgialibraries.org/pines http://www.georgialibraries.org/pines *From:*Open-ils-general [mailto:open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org mailto:open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org] *On Behalf Of *Donald Butterworth *Sent:* Thursday, February 12, 2015 3:29 PM *To:* Evergreen Discussion Group *Subject:* [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Electronic title - search filter All, Simply adding an 856 tag to a MARC record does not make it possible to do a search for the described electronic resource using the Advanced Search Filter, Item Form: Electronic. What hook can be added to the bib record so that the Search Filter can be used? Thanks, Don -- Don Butterworth Faculty Associate / Librarian III B.L. Fisher Library Asbury Theological Seminary don.butterwo...@asburyseminary.edu mailto:don.butterwo...@asburyseminary.edu (859) 858-2227 tel:%28859%29%20858-2227 -- Don Butterworth Faculty Associate / Librarian III B.L. Fisher Library Asbury Theological Seminary don.butterwo...@asburyseminary.edu mailto:don.butterwo...@asburyseminary.edu (859) 858-2227
Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Electronic title - search filter
Don, As others have said, the search filter is for the MARC fixed field Form (008/23). I don’t know if the 006/06 is also included in the filter or if it can be added. Are you adding an 856 to a record for another format rather than using a MARC record for the e-resource? Elaine J. Elaine Hardy PINES Collaborative Projects Manager Georgia Public Library Service 1800 Century Place, Ste 150 Atlanta, Ga. 30345-4304 404.235.7128 404.235.7201, fax eha...@georgialibraries.org www.georgialibraries.org www.georgialibraries.org/pines From: Open-ils-general [mailto:open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org] On Behalf Of Donald Butterworth Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2015 3:29 PM To: Evergreen Discussion Group Subject: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Electronic title - search filter All, Simply adding an 856 tag to a MARC record does not make it possible to do a search for the described electronic resource using the Advanced Search Filter, Item Form: Electronic. What hook can be added to the bib record so that the Search Filter can be used? Thanks, Don -- Don Butterworth Faculty Associate / Librarian III B.L. Fisher Library Asbury Theological Seminary don.butterwo...@asburyseminary.edu (859) 858-2227
Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Electronic title - search filter
Don – All, Why not search by Circ Modifier? Or copy location?Wouldn’t that be better? Just curious. Especially if you have items attached to the MARC with unique copy locations and circ modifiers already in place. Jennifer -- Jennifer Walz, MLS – Dazed and Confused Kinlaw Library - Asbury University One Macklem Drive, Wilmore, KY 40390 859-858-3511 ext. 2269 jlw...@asbury.edu From: Open-ils-general [mailto:open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org] On Behalf Of Kathy Lussier Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2015 3:50 PM To: open-ils-general@list.georgialibraries.org Subject: Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Electronic title - search filter Hi Don, It comes from the MARC fixed field - form of item. If you're in the MARC editor on a recent version of Evergreen (2.6+), if you right-click on the text-entry box for form in the fixed field editor, you should have a list of forms to choose from. However, if you're on an older version, you need to manually enter the code. The LOC documentation should have them. I hope this helps! Kathy On 02/12/2015 03:29 PM, Donald Butterworth wrote: All, Simply adding an 856 tag to a MARC record does not make it possible to do a search for the described electronic resource using the Advanced Search Filter, Item Form: Electronic. What hook can be added to the bib record so that the Search Filter can be used? Thanks, Don -- Don Butterworth Faculty Associate / Librarian III B.L. Fisher Library Asbury Theological Seminary don.butterwo...@asburyseminary.edumailto:don.butterwo...@asburyseminary.edu (859) 858-2227 -- Kathy Lussier Project Coordinator Massachusetts Library Network Cooperative (508) 343-0128 kluss...@masslnc.orgmailto:kluss...@masslnc.org Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/kmlussier
[OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Electronic title - search filter
All, Simply adding an 856 tag to a MARC record does not make it possible to do a search for the described electronic resource using the Advanced Search Filter, Item Form: Electronic. What hook can be added to the bib record so that the Search Filter can be used? Thanks, Don -- Don Butterworth Faculty Associate / Librarian III B.L. Fisher Library Asbury Theological Seminary don.butterwo...@asburyseminary.edu (859) 858-2227
Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Electronic title - search filter
Quoting Walz, Jennifer jlw...@asbury.edu: Don – All, Why not search by Circ Modifier? Or copy location?Wouldn’t that be better? Just curious. Especially if you have items attached to the MARC with unique copy locations and circ modifiers already in place. Not answering for Don, but I can think of one case where that won't work. Electronic items with URLs and no copies. There won't be circ modifiers nor copy locations to search in that case. Jennifer -- Jennifer Walz, MLS – Dazed and Confused Kinlaw Library - Asbury University One Macklem Drive, Wilmore, KY 40390 859-858-3511 ext. 2269 jlw...@asbury.edu From: Open-ils-general [mailto:open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org] On Behalf Of Kathy Lussier Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2015 3:50 PM To: open-ils-general@list.georgialibraries.org Subject: Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Electronic title - search filter Hi Don, It comes from the MARC fixed field - form of item. If you're in the MARC editor on a recent version of Evergreen (2.6+), if you right-click on the text-entry box for form in the fixed field editor, you should have a list of forms to choose from. However, if you're on an older version, you need to manually enter the code. The LOC documentation should have them. I hope this helps! Kathy On 02/12/2015 03:29 PM, Donald Butterworth wrote: All, Simply adding an 856 tag to a MARC record does not make it possible to do a search for the described electronic resource using the Advanced Search Filter, Item Form: Electronic. What hook can be added to the bib record so that the Search Filter can be used? Thanks, Don -- Don Butterworth Faculty Associate / Librarian III B.L. Fisher Library Asbury Theological Seminary don.butterwo...@asburyseminary.edumailto:don.butterwo...@asburyseminary.edu (859) 858-2227 -- Kathy Lussier Project Coordinator Massachusetts Library Network Cooperative (508) 343-0128 kluss...@masslnc.orgmailto:kluss...@masslnc.org Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/kmlussier -- Jason Stephenson Assistant Director for Technology Services Merrimack Valley Library Consortium 1600 Osgood ST, Suite 2094 North Andover, MA 01845 Phone: 978-557-5891 Email: jstephen...@mvlc.org
Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Electronic title - search filter
Hi Don, It comes from the MARC fixed field - form of item. If you're in the MARC editor on a recent version of Evergreen (2.6+), if you right-click on the text-entry box for form in the fixed field editor, you should have a list of forms to choose from. However, if you're on an older version, you need to manually enter the code. The LOC documentation should have them. I hope this helps! Kathy On 02/12/2015 03:29 PM, Donald Butterworth wrote: All, Simply adding an 856 tag to a MARC record does not make it possible to do a search for the described electronic resource using the Advanced Search Filter, Item Form: Electronic. What hook can be added to the bib record so that the Search Filter can be used? Thanks, Don -- Don Butterworth Faculty Associate / Librarian III B.L. Fisher Library Asbury Theological Seminary don.butterwo...@asburyseminary.edu mailto:don.butterwo...@asburyseminary.edu (859) 858-2227 -- Kathy Lussier Project Coordinator Massachusetts Library Network Cooperative (508) 343-0128 kluss...@masslnc.org Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/kmlussier
