Re: [OpenAFS] HP-UX file systems on client

2005-04-20 Thread Horst Birthelmer
On Apr 20, 2005, at 12:24 AM, rogbazan wrote:
Hi,
i´m installing a client on a HP-UX, i knew that the file system type
where /usr/vice and /usr/vice/etc will be has to be (and only) hfs, is
that correct?
I don't remember anything like that and I'm pretty sure I've done it on 
some other file system, too.
What you refer to, might be the restriction on the AFS cache.
Try using memcache, if you're unsure you have the right file system. 
I'm using memcache and it works.

Could i create those dirs on a volume manager FS?
I've done that, too, and the machine didn't bite me :-)
but again not for the cache, only for the files to sit around.
BTW, what version of HP-UX? All my statements are true for HP-UX 11.11 
and undefined for the rest :-)

Horst
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Re: [OpenAFS] Debian install problem: ptserver won't start

2005-04-20 Thread Lars Schimmer
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| All,
|
| I'm having a bang your head against a wall problem when installing
| OpenAFS on Debian from the Debian repository.
First - which one? I strongly suggest the experimental sources and version
1.3.81 of OpenAFS.
And to your problem - if the server is multihomed, try the netrestrict file, in
which all IPs are listed that OpenAFS shouldn't listen to. More info on the
www.openafs.org website documentation. In Debian that file should rest in
/etc/openafs/server-local/NetRestrict.
| Thank you for any help in advance!
|
| -Scott
Cya
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[OpenAFS] 1.3.81 under AIX 5.1

2005-04-20 Thread Hans-Gunther Borrmann
Hello,

I further tested the 1.3.81 client under AIX 5.1, single processor, 32-Bit 
kernel.

If root.afs of the workstations cell is not available the workstation crashes.
In this special case root.afs of the cell in question was not yet created. 
afsd was started without -dynroot.

Using -dynroot, the client works well. So this is a minor problem.

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[OpenAFS] 1.3.81 Server under AIX 5.1

2005-04-20 Thread Hans-Gunther Borrmann
Hello,

I tested the 1.3.81 Server under AIX 5.1 ML07, single processor, 32-bit 
kernel.
The salvager coredumps:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:root]# bos salvage localhost -all
bos: shutting down fs.
Starting salvage.
bos: salvage completed
bos: restarting fs.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:root]# bos status localhost
Instance fs, currently running normally.
Auxiliary status is: file server running.
Instance ptserver, currently running normally.
Instance vlserver, currently running normally.
Instance kaserver, currently running normally.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:root]# vos listvol localhost
Total number of volumes on server localhost partition /vicepa: 3
root.afs  536870962 RW  2 K On-line
root.cell 536870965 RW  3 K On-line
root.cell.readonly536870966 RO  3 K On-line

Total volumes onLine 3 ; Total volumes offLine 0 ; Total busy 0

Total number of volumes on server localhost partition /vicepb: 1
usr.hgb   536870968 RW 564128 K On-line

Total volumes onLine 1 ; Total volumes offLine 0 ; Total busy 0

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:root]# bos getlog localhost SalvageLog
Fetching log file 'SalvageLog'...
@(#) OpenAFS 1.3.81 built  2005-04-14
04/20/2005 10:42:12 STARTING AFS SALVAGER 2.4 (/usr/afs/bin/salvager -f)
04/20/2005 10:42:12 Starting salvage of file system partition /vicepa
04/20/2005 10:42:12 Starting salvage of file system partition /vicepb
04/20/2005 10:42:12 SALVAGING FILE SYSTEM PARTITION /vicepa (device=vicepa)
04/20/2005 10:42:12 ***Forced salvage of all volumes on this partition***
04/20/2005 10:42:12 3 nVolumesInInodeFile 84
04/20/2005 10:42:12 SALVAGING VOLUME 536870962.
04/20/2005 10:42:12 root.afs (536870962) not updated (created 04/20/2005 
10:16)
04/20/2005 10:42:12 totalInodes 5
04/20/2005 10:42:12 Salvage volume group core dumped!
04/20/2005 10:42:12 CHECKING CLONED VOLUME 536870966.
04/20/2005 10:42:12 root.cell.readonly (536870966) updated 04/20/2005 10:18
04/20/2005 10:42:12 Salvage volume group core dumped!
04/20/2005 10:42:12 SALVAGING OF PARTITION /vicepa COMPLETED
04/20/2005 10:42:12 SALVAGING FILE SYSTEM PARTITION /vicepb (device=vicepb)
04/20/2005 10:42:12 ***Forced salvage of all volumes on this partition***
04/20/2005 10:42:12 1 nVolumesInInodeFile 28
04/20/2005 10:42:12 SALVAGING VOLUME 536870968.
04/20/2005 10:42:12 usr.hgb (536870968) updated 04/20/2005 10:38
04/20/2005 10:42:12 Vnode 60: version  inode version; fixed (old status)
04/20/2005 10:42:12 Salvage volume group core dumped!
04/20/2005 10:42:12 SALVAGING OF PARTITION /vicepb COMPLETED

Compilation information:
CC=cc ./configure --enable-namei-fileserver \
--enable-largefile-fileserver \
--enable-fast-restart \
--enable-bitmap-later \
--enable-tivoli-tsm \
--enable-transarc-paths \
--disable-pam

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[OpenAFS] Kerberos 5 in OpenAFS

2005-04-20 Thread dom . toretto
Hello Everybody,

I've set up an OpenAFs cell, and it works fine. I can create Users, user 
directories and so on.
But now I'm trying to implement Kerberos 5 into openAFS, I find a lot of 
information about what goes wrong or what mistakes people make.
But I don't know how to start.
Some people talk about migration tools like asetkey and aklog, but what do they 
do?
Is there someone who can help me get on the way implementing Kerberos into 
OpenAFS???
I'm working with gentoo, and my kernel-version is 2.4.26.
The version of OpenAFS is 1.2.11

THX in advance.

Greetz Loretto


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Re: [OpenAFS] Debian install problem: ptserver won't start

2005-04-20 Thread Sergio Gelato
* Lars Schimmer [2005-04-20 10:10:08 +0200]:
 Scott Fritzinger schrieb:
 | All,
 |
 | I'm having a bang your head against a wall problem when installing
 | OpenAFS on Debian from the Debian repository.
 
 First - which one? I strongly suggest the experimental sources and version
 1.3.81 of OpenAFS.

Very good question. In particular, Debian stable (woody, 3.0r5) still 
ships with OpenAFS 1.2.3 packages which you most definitely should not use. 
Get the 1.2.13 packages from openafs.org if you're using woody.

 And to your problem - if the server is multihomed, try the netrestrict 
 file, in
 which all IPs are listed that OpenAFS shouldn't listen to. More info on the
 www.openafs.org website documentation. In Debian that file should rest in
 /etc/openafs/server-local/NetRestrict.

Or in /var/lib/openafs, depending on which build of the .deb's you are using.
I agree that NetRestrict can be desirable for a multihomed server, but I don't
think it's the main issue here. Things ought to work, if a little less
efficiently, without any explicit NetRestrict configuration.
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Re: [OpenAFS] Kerberos 5 in OpenAFS

2005-04-20 Thread David Claessens
Hi,
Maybe these could help you, these are the guides I used for installing my AFS cell on 
Debian sarge:
http://www.debianplanet.org/node.php?id=816
http://www.scode.org/afs/openafs-install.txt

AFAIK asetkey and aklog are 2 programs from the Kerberos Migration kit. asetkey is 
for converting your afs kerberosV service key to Kerberos4 key so afs can work with 
it and aklog is for obtaining AFS tokens from your kerberosV ticket.

Hope this helps,
David
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hello Everybody,
I've set up an OpenAFs cell, and it works fine. I can create Users, user 
directories and so on.
But now I'm trying to implement Kerberos 5 into openAFS, I find a lot of 
information about what goes wrong or what mistakes people make.
But I don't know how to start.
Some people talk about migration tools like asetkey and aklog, but what do they 
do?
Is there someone who can help me get on the way implementing Kerberos into 
OpenAFS???
I'm working with gentoo, and my kernel-version is 2.4.26.
The version of OpenAFS is 1.2.11
THX in advance.
Greetz Loretto
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Re: [OpenAFS] Kerberos 5 in OpenAFS

2005-04-20 Thread Steve Devine

On Wed, April 20, 2005 5:58 am, David Claessens said:
 Hi,

 Maybe these could help you, these are the guides I used for installing my
 AFS cell on
 Debian sarge:
 http://www.debianplanet.org/node.php?id=816
 http://www.scode.org/afs/openafs-install.txt

 AFAIK asetkey and aklog are 2 programs from the Kerberos Migration kit.
 asetkey is
 for converting your afs kerberosV service key to Kerberos4 key so afs can
 work with
 it and aklog is for obtaining AFS tokens from your kerberosV ticket.

 Hope this helps,

 David

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hello Everybody,

 I've set up an OpenAFs cell, and it works fine. I can create Users, user
 directories and so on.
 But now I'm trying to implement Kerberos 5 into openAFS, I find a lot of
 information about what goes wrong or what mistakes people make.
 But I don't know how to start.
 Some people talk about migration tools like asetkey and aklog, but what
 do they do?
 Is there someone who can help me get on the way implementing Kerberos
 into OpenAFS???
 I'm working with gentoo, and my kernel-version is 2.4.26.
 The version of OpenAFS is 1.2.11

 THX in advance.

 Greetz Loretto
It is a bit different if you are moveing an existing cell to K5 verses
just setting up a cell and then a K5 kdc. If you have existing users and
their passwords to worry about you will need afs2k5db to migrate the
users.
Google afs2k5db.
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Re: [OpenAFS] Kerberos 5 in OpenAFS

2005-04-20 Thread dom . toretto

It is a bit different if you are moveing an existing cell to K5 verses
just setting up a cell and then a K5 kdc. If you have existing users and
their passwords to worry about you will need afs2k5db to migrate the
users.
Google afs2k5db.

OK I understand, but I don't have to worry about users and passwords and user 
directories. Because this is a testproject. 
What I think i shoot do is get the migration tools: asetkey and aklog.
Create an afs entry in Kerberos and so on ...
But I cant find these migration tools for gentoo.
Is there someone who knows where to find them??

ThX 


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Re: [OpenAFS] HP-UX file systems on client

2005-04-20 Thread Douglas E. Engert

Horst Birthelmer wrote:
On Apr 20, 2005, at 12:24 AM, rogbazan wrote:
Hi,
i´m installing a client on a HP-UX, i knew that the file system type
where /usr/vice and /usr/vice/etc will be has to be (and only) hfs, is
that correct?

I don't remember anything like that and I'm pretty sure I've done it on 
some other file system, too.
What you refer to, might be the restriction on the AFS cache.
Try using memcache, if you're unsure you have the right file system. I'm 
using memcache and it works.
The cache should be hfs for example the fstab entry looks like:
 /dev/vg00/lvol9 /usr/vice/cache hfs rw,suid,nolargefiles 0 2

Could i create those dirs on a volume manager FS?

I've done that, too, and the machine didn't bite me :-)
but again not for the cache, only for the files to sit around.
BTW, what version of HP-UX? All my statements are true for HP-UX 11.11 
and undefined for the rest :-)
I have built OpenAFS 1.3.81 for hp_ux110, hp_ux11i, ia64_hpux123 and
for hp_ux1123.  So far we have only tested the new hp_ux1123.
If any of you are interested in testing these, drop me a note.

Horst
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Re: [OpenAFS] HP-UX file systems on client

2005-04-20 Thread Todd M. Lewis

rogbazan wrote:
Hi,
i´m installing a client on a HP-UX, i knew that the file system type
where /usr/vice and /usr/vice/etc will be has to be (and only) hfs, is
that correct?
Could i create those dirs on a volume manager FS?
This is my first time on the issue (HP-UX).
I´ve been trying to find that info on the documentation, but nothing.
Please help me.
thanx a lot.
http://grand.central.org/twiki/bin/view/AFSLore/SupportedConfigurations 
is supposed to have all the known-to-work and known-to-fail file system 
types for both client caches and server /vicepXes.

It's probably pretty close to correct, but I see vxfs listed as 
working for sun4x_5[789] client caches while vxfs (HP-UX, Solaris) is 
listed under These Don't Work for client caches. Would somebody who 
knows the status of vxfs for client cache on Solaris please update the 
above linked twiki page?
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Re: [OpenAFS] 1.3.81 under AIX 5.1

2005-04-20 Thread Michael Niksch
My very minor problem is not being able to tell the difference between PAG and UID-based tokens.  groups no longer lists the special groups.  IBM resolved it by changing the output of AIX 5 tokens to indicate PAG or UID based tokens in the output.  I'd be willing to to do the same if I had a quick here's what to look for.
IBM AFS also introduced a 'curpag' command that tells you which PAG you
are in (similar to looking at what special groups you were in). Though
not a 'must', this is also quite handy from time to time.
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Re: [OpenAFS] can not change a backup or readonly volume

2005-04-20 Thread rc647bob

Have you had a token for a admin user while performing that action?
Use the command tokens to check that.


Should the tokens command specify admin or is there a symbolic 
representation?

[EMAIL PROTECTED] klog admin 
Password:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] tokens

Tokens held by the Cache Manager:

User's (AFS ID 1) tokens for [EMAIL PROTECTED] [Expires Apr 21 11:07]
   --End of list--
[EMAIL PROTECTED] vos create -server addedserver.edu -partition /vicepe -name 
addedserver-afs -cell .exp-lab.edu
vsu_ClientInit: Could not get afs tokens, running unauthenticated.
Could not get an Id for volume addedserver-afs
VLDB: no permission access for call
Error in vos create command.
VLDB: no permission access for call
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Re: [OpenAFS] can not change a backup or readonly volume

2005-04-20 Thread Lars Schimmer
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|Have you had a token for a admin user while performing that action?
|Use the command tokens to check that.
| Should the tokens command specify admin or is there a symbolic
| representation?
|
| [EMAIL PROTECTED] klog admin
| Password:
| [EMAIL PROTECTED] tokens
|
| Tokens held by the Cache Manager:
|
| User's (AFS ID 1) tokens for [EMAIL PROTECTED] [Expires Apr 21 11:07]
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So far so good. I assume the UserID 1 in your cell is the admin.
| [EMAIL PROTECTED] vos create -server addedserver.edu -partition /vicepe
- -name addedserver-afs -cell .exp-lab.edu
| vsu_ClientInit: Could not get afs tokens, running unauthenticated.
| Could not get an Id for volume addedserver-afs
| VLDB: no permission access for call
| Error in vos create command.
| VLDB: no permission access for call
| [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Thats not good. Try vos create addeserver vicepe addserver-afs
exp-lab.edu instead, maybe their are typos.
At least the dot in front of the cell name could be a showstopper. Do
you need the -cell option at least? Mine vos create works without.
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Re: [OpenAFS] Kerberos 5 in OpenAFS

2005-04-20 Thread Franco \Sensei\
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
OK I understand, but I don't have to worry about users and passwords and user directories. Because this is a testproject. 
What I think i shoot do is get the migration tools: asetkey and aklog.
Create an afs entry in Kerberos and so on ...
But I cant find these migration tools for gentoo.
Is there someone who knows where to find them??
You can grab them from debian's repository and recompile them. Make sure 
you modify the make files, because libraries have changed since woody 
versions.

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[OpenAFS] AFS client on AIX: is there hope?

2005-04-20 Thread Franco \Sensei\
Hi, still trying to have my AIX 5.2 get on my cell!
My situation (again). Kerberos KDC, OpenAFS, OpenLDAP on debian stable. 
Kerberos authenticates, LDAP gives home informations along with GID/UID 
(*flat* database: uid=username, objectClass=top, 
objectClass=posixAccount...), at last, I convert the ticket in afs 
token and the session begins.

What I've succeeded to do? Kerberos can kinit, ktutil and kadmin. 
OpenAFS mounts my cell correctly, but I can't access to it since I don't 
have the tokens. Perfect.

Now how do I make this work under AIX? How to convert tickets in tokens? 
How to use LDAP for user info? I've contacted aix newsgoups but nothing. 
They use aix just server-side.

Has anyone an AIX machine being a client of afs  kerberos?
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Re: [OpenAFS] Problem with pam on debian with 1.3.81 kernel 2.6.11

2005-04-20 Thread Simon Lyngshede
On Thu, Apr 14, 2005 at 12:59:13PM +0200, Lars Schimmer wrote:
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 Hi!
 
 I setup pam conf on debian sarge like it was written here:
 http://mailman.mit.edu/pipermail/kerberos/2004-October/006601.html
 
 And tried to login and get my tokens.
 
 I can login, but can't get any tickets. I hace to call kinit manually to 
 get a
 ticket and after that aklog to obtain a token.
 Has anyone a working conf on debian sarge for me?
 

The following works on my setup, Debian Sarge, Kerberos 5 and OpenAFS

You need the libpam-openafs-session and libpam-krb5 (MIT Kerberos)

The following is just the Kerberos and AFS part of my PAM
configuration, note that there is no common-password, I don't use it,
but I suspect that it wouldn't be much different. 

/etc/pam.d/common-account:
account sufficient  pam_krb5.so

/etc/pam.d/common-account:
authsufficient  pam_krb5.so

/etc/pam.d/common-session:
session optionalpam_krb5.so
session optionalpam_openafs_session.so

The KerberosTgtPassing yes won't work on Sarge, as the Debian
package doesn't support that, so you'll need to compile OpenSSH
yourself. Step 2 and 3 in the guide you refere to are redundant if let
PAM handle everything. The downside is that you won't be able to use
ssh keys, which brings you back to recompiling SSH yourself. The
ssh-krb5 package doesn't really seem to contain as many features as
one would like. I might be wrong, but I failed to make it work.

Hope it helps

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[OpenAFS] Integrating AFS and Kerberos V

2005-04-20 Thread Jun Li
Hi All,

I know this is AFS mailing list, please forgive me if I post to the wrong place.

Recently I spent some time on OpenAFS and MIT Kerberos V and finally authenticate AFS users through MIT Kerberos V server instead of AFS KA server. During this process, I googled a lot but didn't find too many useful articles regarding this topic(Except Ken Hornstein). I'd like to share my experience with people, but don't know if anybody is interested. So I send this message and hope to know some new friends.

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Re: [OpenAFS] Problem with pam on debian with 1.3.81 kernel 2.6.11

2005-04-20 Thread Russ Allbery
Simon Lyngshede [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 The KerberosTgtPassing yes won't work on Sarge, as the Debian package
 doesn't support that, so you'll need to compile OpenSSH yourself.

Or install ssh-krb5 and then set GSSAPIDelegateCredentials in ssh_config.

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Re: [OpenAFS] Debian install problem: ptserver won't start

2005-04-20 Thread Scott Fritzinger
Lars (and others who have responded),
I was using Debian stable, which was, as mentioned, using the 1.2.3 
release. I removed all of 1.2.3 and tried the Debian testing branch 
(which uses 1.3.18). I ran into a problem with bosserver not finding the 
default cell when it is being shut down. afs-newcell had problems 
because of this it seems.

So, I removed it all, added the openafs.org reposity to my sources lists 
and installed 1.2.13, which appears to have worked with exception of the 
kernel modules. I'm currently running 2.6.7 and the 
openafs-modules-source won't compile because of the changes to 
sys_call_table apparently in the new kernel.

I am moving back down to 2.4.27 (something I've been meaning to do for a 
while. Can you tell this is the experimental server? :-) and will try 
again. I'll write in to give a status update when 2.4.27 is installed 
and the modules are loaded.

Thanks to everyone for replying and providing feedback.
-Scott
Sergio Gelato wrote:
* Lars Schimmer [2005-04-20 10:10:08 +0200]:
Scott Fritzinger schrieb:
| All,
|
| I'm having a bang your head against a wall problem when installing
| OpenAFS on Debian from the Debian repository.
First - which one? I strongly suggest the experimental sources and version
1.3.81 of OpenAFS.

Very good question. In particular, Debian stable (woody, 3.0r5) still 
ships with OpenAFS 1.2.3 packages which you most definitely should not use. 
Get the 1.2.13 packages from openafs.org if you're using woody.


And to your problem - if the server is multihomed, try the netrestrict 
file, in
which all IPs are listed that OpenAFS shouldn't listen to. More info on the
www.openafs.org website documentation. In Debian that file should rest in
/etc/openafs/server-local/NetRestrict.

Or in /var/lib/openafs, depending on which build of the .deb's you are using.
I agree that NetRestrict can be desirable for a multihomed server, but I don't
think it's the main issue here. Things ought to work, if a little less
efficiently, without any explicit NetRestrict configuration.
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Re: [OpenAFS] AFS client on AIX: is there hope?

2005-04-20 Thread Christopher D. Clausen
From Franco Sensei [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hi, still trying to have my AIX 5.2 get on my cell!
My situation (again). Kerberos KDC, OpenAFS, OpenLDAP on debian 
stable.
Kerberos authenticates, LDAP gives home informations along with 
GID/UID
(*flat* database: uid=username, objectClass=top,
objectClass=posixAccount...), at last, I convert the ticket in afs
token and the session begins.
I'm using Solaris for my servers, two are Solaris 10 running 1.3.80 and 
one is still Solaris 9 running 1.2.13.

I'm using NIS for account information.
What I've succeeded to do? Kerberos can kinit, ktutil and kadmin.
OpenAFS mounts my cell correctly, but I can't access to it since I 
don't
have the tokens. Perfect.
Which Kerberos are you using?
I compiled and am using MIT Kerberos 1.3.1 or possibly 1.3.6, not sure 
exactly.

I thought someone had previously mentioned a pure Kerberos 5 aklog 
available somewhere, but I haven't yet tried to compile it on AIX nor do 
I remember where it is available from.

Now how do I make this work under AIX? How to convert tickets in 
tokens?
How to use LDAP for user info? I've contacted aix newsgoups but 
nothing.
They use aix just server-side.
I just downloaded and compiled gssklog on AIX:
ftp://achilles.ctd.anl.gov/pub/DEE/
Of course, this requires gssklogd running on your AFS servers, but this 
was an acceptable alternative for us since we also use gssklog from our 
Windows 2003 machines.

Has anyone an AIX machine being a client of afs  kerberos?
I have an AIX 5.1 and 5.2 machine with AFS and Kerberos working quite 
well.  Only issue is that users do not automatically aquire tokens at 
login.  They simply run gssklog to obtain tokens.  This is acceptable in 
my environment.  You might be able to get a pam_run or similar module to 
run an aklog or gssklog at login on AIX 5.2.  (AIX 5.1 has no real PAM.) 
Is this the only problem you are having?

There was a recent post about afs_dynamic_kerbauth working in 1.3.80 but 
I still run 1.2.13 on my AIX machines.  Can someone confirm that it does 
indeed work against a Kereberos 5 KDC?  afs_dynamic_kerbauth does NOT 
appear to work against a Kerberos 5 KDC in the 1.2.13 version, although 
I will re-test if someone believes it does.

CDC
Christopher D. Clausen
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[OpenAFS] acl's and permissions

2005-04-20 Thread Ron Croonenberg
Hello,

If my home directory (on Linux) is /home/ron  and I have a directory project
that I want to give another afs user access too then that user needs to have at
least l rights in my home directory, correct ?

I mean if  him has access to /home/ron/project then his rights need to be rwl
AND his rights in /home/ron need to be at least l   right ?

I tried giving him access to project by :

fs sa him rwl  (when in the projects subdir).

But he can't get there.

or am I missing something ?

thanks,

Ron

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Re: [OpenAFS] Kerberos 5 in OpenAFS

2005-04-20 Thread Simon Lyngshede
On Wed, Apr 20, 2005 at 11:58:16AM +0200, David Claessens wrote:
 Hi,
 
 Maybe these could help you, these are the guides I used for installing my 
 AFS cell on Debian sarge:
 http://www.debianplanet.org/node.php?id=816
 http://www.scode.org/afs/openafs-install.txt
 

The debianplanet.org guide isn't all that good, there a mistakes in
it, some parts simply wrong... or just out of date.

A colleague of mine cleaned it up a bit when we did our installation
http://web.s-et.aau.dk/edb/guides/afs-server-install.html

It does explain that much, but at least it works. 


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[OpenAFS] MS Access and OpenAFS

2005-04-20 Thread Gabe Castillo
Has anyone used an MS Access database from within OpenAFS? Does it work 
with multiple users? I'd heard some talk about AFS not supporting 
byte-range locking, and wasn't sure how MS Access fit into this.

Thanks,
 Gabe
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[OpenAFS] Re: Kerberos 5 in OpenAFS

2005-04-20 Thread O Plameras
Franco Sensei wrote:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
OK I understand, but I don't have to worry about users and passwords 
and user directories. Because this is a testproject. What I think i 
shoot do is get the migration tools: asetkey and aklog.
Create an afs entry in Kerberos and so on ...
But I cant find these migration tools for gentoo.
Is there someone who knows where to find them??

You can grab them from debian's repository and recompile them. Make sure 
you modify the make files, because libraries have changed since woody 
versions.


This is where I got a copy:
ftp://ftp.cmf.nrl.navy.mil/pub/kerberos5/afs-krb5-2.0.tar.gz
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Re: [OpenAFS] MS Access and OpenAFS

2005-04-20 Thread Jeffrey Altman
Gabe Castillo wrote:

 Has anyone used an MS Access database from within OpenAFS? Does it work
 with multiple users? I'd heard some talk about AFS not supporting
 byte-range locking, and wasn't sure how MS Access fit into this.
 
 Thanks,
  Gabe

You do not want to execute database applications out of AFS.  AFS does
not support byte range locks.  MS Access requires byte range locks to
protect records during modification.

Jeffrey Altman



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Re: [OpenAFS] AFS client on AIX: is there hope?

2005-04-20 Thread Christopher D. Clausen
From: Franco Sensei [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Christopher D. Clausen wrote:
We can compile (at least I hope) aklog from sources, but the problem 
is
that I don't see where to attach aklog, which has to be run before a
session is opened.
Just for the sake of testing it, does 
http://afs.caspur.it/afs/italia/project/ssh/ work for you, getting 
tokens at login?

I just downloaded and compiled gssklog on AIX:
ftp://achilles.ctd.anl.gov/pub/DEE/
Of course, this requires gssklogd running on your AFS servers, but 
this
was an acceptable alternative for us since we also use gssklog from 
our
Windows 2003 machines.
Mmmh... another daemon, another port open. We can give it a try 
anyway.
How can you use it on aix? I mean, how do you start gssklog in your
config files?
Right now I just type in gssklog as the first thing I run after logging 
on.  For instance:
Using username cclausen.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~]% gssklog
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~]%

I have my home directory setup to let all my login scripts run fine even 
if I don't have AFS tokens at login: /afs/acm.uiuc.edu/user/cclausen is 
system:anyuser l and ~/Public is system:anyuser rl.  I have symlinks 
from ~/ to ~/Public for various files to not depend on tokens for my 
scripts to run.  Depending on the shells you use, you might be able to 
fake tokens by running gssklog or aklog directly from /etc/profile or 
whatever global config your shells use or from each user's dotfiles.

I can't use LDAP to retrieve user information. And... it's quite bad 
not
having any token at login! :) Do you use ssh or a direct login?
This is one of the reasons why we still use NIS.  Haven't gotten LDAP to 
work everywhere yet.

I ssh in right now.  I have a version of openssh 3.8 that I compiled 
against MIT Kerberos myself.  The version that IBM distributes from 
their website has Kerberos support, but I wanted to support MIT Kerberos 
1.3 so that I could get RC4-HMAC enc_type support, as I'm pretty sure 
the IBM Kerberos doesn't support it yet.

There was a recent post about afs_dynamic_kerbauth working in 1.3.80 
but
I still run 1.2.13 on my AIX machines.  Can someone confirm that it 
does
indeed work against a Kereberos 5 KDC?  afs_dynamic_kerbauth does NOT
appear to work against a Kerberos 5 KDC in the 1.2.13 version, 
although
I will re-test if someone believes it does.
I'd be happy staying with the stable branch... If I'm right
afs_dynamic_kerbauth works with kerberos 4, not 5... is it so?
That is what I think as well.  Kerberos 4 only, which is hopefully 
something everyone is moving away from.  Although the IBM docs mention 
DCE, which doesn't work with Kerberos 4, so its possible that there is 
Krb5 support, we just don't know how to use it correctly.

The other option is to write your own AIX Auth Module and use it.  I am 
considering doing this myself, but it really isn't worth the trouble for 
the few machines that we have that run AIX.  And newer AIX versions have 
PAM support, so this is even less useful.

If someone has contacts at IBM, it might be possible to obtain an 
exmaple or the source to IBM;s KRB5 or KRB5A LAM and then modify it to 
also obtain AFS tokens in addition to Kerberos tickets.  I have no idea 
how willing IBM would be to work with someone on doing just that.

Have you tried using pam_afs2 on AIX?  Doug emailed this list a few 
weeks ago about it: ftp://achilles.ctd.anl.gov/pub/DEE/pam_afs2-0.1.tar

I have an AIX 5.1 system with no PAM support, so it won't work for me, 
but you might be able to get it to work.  You may be able to use LAM on 
AIX 5.2 to have SSH obtain AFS tokens using one of the afs PAMs 
available on the net.

I believe I posted this to the AIX newsgroup, but 
http://www.feep.net/PAM/AIX/ might be of use to others who haven't seen 
that post.

I don't have a dev environment setup on a AIX 5.2 machine right now, but 
when I get around to it I'll attempt to get PAM and LAM working such 
that tokens can be obtained at login.

CDC 

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RE: [OpenAFS] MS Access and OpenAFS

2005-04-20 Thread ted creedon
One can reverse engineer the Access database design with Visio Enterprise
and have Visio emit new definitions for any number of real databases.

AFS is a good place to archive .mdb files.

Being a university, one should investigate SQL server for multiuser
applications. Its Data Transformation Services work quite well. Of course
then you have that to backup.

tedc

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Federico Balbi
Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2005 2:54 PM
To: Gabe Castillo
Cc: openafs-info@openafs.org
Subject: Re: [OpenAFS] MS Access and OpenAFS

I do not think AFS would be good with concurrent users. AFS is good to share
many small files with low concurrency access. If you have bunch of MDB and
low probability to have 2 users or more using it concurrently then it would
be fine.





Federico Balbi
Division of Computer Science
University of Texas at San Antonio
6900 N. Loop 1604 West
San Antonio, TX 78249-0667

[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.cs.utsa.edu/~fbalbi

On Wed, 20 Apr 2005, Gabe Castillo wrote:

 Has anyone used an MS Access database from within OpenAFS? Does it 
 work with multiple users? I'd heard some talk about AFS not supporting 
 byte-range locking, and wasn't sure how MS Access fit into this.

 Thanks,
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Re: [OpenAFS] openafs fileservers in VMware ESX

2005-04-20 Thread Matthew Cocker
here is some of the strace. It seems that the gettimeofday function is 
having issues. Would this cause the vos listvol to slow? If this is the 
case then would I be save to say it is a OS level issue not afs issue.

Of cause now I have to move all the volumes onto a REDHAT server (we use 
debian) before I can bug vmware.

Cheers
Matt
gettimeofday({1114053992, 397630}, NULL) = 0
select(4, [3], NULL, NULL, {0, 939534}) = 0 (Timeout)
gettimeofday({1114053993, 336018}, NULL) = 0
select(4, [3], NULL, NULL, {0, 1146})   = 0 (Timeout)
gettimeofday({1114053993, 346133}, NULL) = 0
getitimer(ITIMER_REAL, {it_interval={0, 0}, it_value={21474834, 
33}}) = 0
gettimeofday({1114053993, 346467}, NULL) = 0
select(4, [3], NULL, NULL, {12, 989666}) = 0 (Timeout)
gettimeofday({1114054006, 341534}, NULL) = 0
getitimer(ITIMER_REAL, {it_interval={0, 0}, it_value={21474821, 
34}}) = 0
select(4, [3], NULL, NULL, {0, 0})  = 0 (Timeout)
getitimer(ITIMER_REAL, {it_interval={0, 0}, it_value={21474821, 
34}}) = 0
gettimeofday({1114054006, 342237}, NULL) = 0
select(4, [3], NULL, NULL, {14, 999297}) = 0 (Timeout)
gettimeofday({1114054021, 352019}, NULL) = 0
getitimer(ITIMER_REAL, {it_interval={0, 0}, it_value={21474806, 
34}}) = 0
sendmsg(3, {msg_name(16)={sin_family=AF_INET, sin_port=htons(7005), 
sin_addr=inet_addr(130.216.35.4)}}, 
msg_iov(2)=[{Bg\35g\t\220\311t\0\0\0\1\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\2\2#\0\0\0\0\0..., 
28}, {\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\1\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\6\0\0\0\0\0\0\26\0\0..., 37}], 
msg_controllen=0, msg_flags=0}, 0) = 65
select(4, [3], NULL, NULL, {0, 0})  = 0 (Timeout)
getitimer(ITIMER_REAL, {it_interval={0, 0}, it_value={21474806, 
34}}) = 0
gettimeofday({1114054021, 353190}, NULL) = 0
select(4, [3], NULL, NULL, {14, 998829}) = 1 (in [3], left {14, 96})
recvmsg(3, {msg_name(16)={sin_family=AF_INET, sin_port=htons(7005), 
sin_addr=inet_addr(130.216.35.4)}}, 
msg_iov(7)=[{Bg\35g\t\220\311t\0\0\0\1\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\2\2 
\0\0\307\37..., 28}, 
{\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\2\0\0\0\1\0\0\0\2\7\0\266I\6\0\0\26\0\0..., 1416}, 
{\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0..., 1416}, 
{\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0..., 1416}, 
{\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0..., 1416}, 
{\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0..., 1416}, 
{\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0..., 1420}], 
msg_controllen=0, msg_flags=0}, 0) = 65
getitimer(ITIMER_REAL, {it_interval={0, 0}, it_value={21474806, 
29}}) = 0
getitimer(ITIMER_REAL, {it_interval={0, 0}, it_value={21474806, 
29}}) = 0
gettimeofday({1114054021, 398538}, NULL) = 0
select(4, [3], NULL, NULL, {14, 904652}) = 0 (Timeout)
gettimeofday({1114054036, 315442}, NULL) = 0
getitimer(ITIMER_REAL, {it_interval={0, 0}, it_value={21474791, 
38}}) = 0
select(4, [3], NULL, NULL, {0, 0})  = 0 (Timeout)
getitimer(ITIMER_REAL, {it_interval={0, 0}, it_value={21474791, 
38}}) = 0
gettimeofday({1114054036, 316288}, NULL) = 0
select(4, [3], NULL, NULL, {0, 39154})  = 0 (Timeout)
gettimeofday({1114054036, 355875}, NULL) = 0
getitimer(ITIMER_REAL, {it_interval={0, 0}, it_value={21474791, 
34}}) = 0
gettimeofday({1114054036, 356213}, NULL) = 0
select(4, [3], NULL, NULL, {14, 999662}) = 0 (Timeout)
gettimeofday({1114054051, 367262}, NULL) = 0
getitimer(ITIMER_REAL, {it_interval={0, 0}, it_value={21474776, 
34}}) = 0
sendmsg(3, {msg_name(16)={sin_family=AF_INET, sin_port=htons(7005), 
sin_addr=inet_addr(130.216.35.4)}}, 
msg_iov(2)=[{Bg\35g\t\220\311t\0\0\0\1\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\3\2#\0\0\0\0\0..., 
28}, {\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\1\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\6\0\0\0\0\0\0\26\0\0..., 37}], 
msg_controllen=0, msg_flags=0}, 0) = 65
select(4, [3], NULL, NULL, {0, 0})  = 0 (Timeout)
getitimer(ITIMER_REAL, {it_interval={0, 0}, it_value={21474776, 
34}}) = 0
gettimeofday({1114054051, 368232}, NULL) = 0
select(4, [3], NULL, NULL, {14, 999030}) = 1 (in [3], left {14, 98})
recvmsg(3, {msg_name(16)={sin_family=AF_INET, sin_port=htons(7005), 
sin_addr=inet_addr(130.216.35.4)}}, 
msg_iov(7)=[{Bg\35g\t\220\311t\0\0\0\1\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\3\2 
\0\0\31\354..., 28}, 
{\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\2\0\0\0\1\0\0\0\3\7\0\1\1\1\0\0\26\0\0..., 1416}, 
{\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0..., 1416}, 
{\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0..., 1416}, 
{\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0..., 1416}, 
{\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0..., 1416}, 
{\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0..., 1420}], 
msg_controllen=0, msg_flags=0}, 0) = 65
getitimer(ITIMER_REAL, {it_interval={0, 0}, it_value={21474776, 
32}}) = 0
getitimer(ITIMER_REAL, {it_interval={0, 0}, it_value={21474776, 
32}}) = 0
gettimeofday({1114054051, 389715}, NULL) = 0

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Re: [OpenAFS] openafs fileservers in VMware ESX

2005-04-20 Thread Derek Atkins
I've never seen any reason to virtualize an AFS server.  Ever.  The key is IO
bandwith, which isn't increased by virtualization.  You really want separate
PHYSICAL servers for AFS servers.  Virtualization does not give you any
benefits due to hardware failure, power failure, or any other failure.  It just
adds overhead.

-derek

Quoting Matthew Cocker [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Hi
 
 We have just invested in a Fibre Channel SANs and several FC attached 
 ESX servers (brillant product, just love vmotion and virtual center) and 
 are playing with Virtualised Openafs Fileservers. All is working very 
 well except if we put to many volumes on a server at which point vos 
 listvol takes a very long time to return.
 
 If we have say 5000-7000 volumes (about 50Gb) on a vice partition 
 performance is equivalent to hardware server. At 10k volumes to 40k 
 volumes 100-300Gb we have problems with vos listvol.
 
 This is not a huge problem for us as we wanted to do more smaller 
 machines any way to take advantage of the VM environment but it does 
 make me wonder why this occurs.
 
 What exactly does vos listvol do? does it scan the vice partitions and 
 return all the volumes it finds (du -sh /vicepa takes a huge amount of 
 time too so maybe this is a vm issue)? Is any network traffic exchanged 
 with the DBs?
 
 When we start vos listvol on the virtualised server with lots of volumes 
 it just seems to stop working with the cpu usage for the afs process not 
 jumping above 1-2%. An strace (available if anyone interested) shows the 
 vos listvol is doing something (although very slowly).
 
 If the virtualised server has less volumes cpu usage jumps up to 30-50% 
 and every thing works.
 
 The only thing effected seems to be vos listvol as accessing a volume 
 stored on the server is quick (from user point of view). vos backup 
 stuff all seems to work.
 
 Hardware server with same number of volumes works OK.
 
 SANS monitoring suggests there is not a data access issue on that side.
 
 Not sure this is an AFS issue but any suggestion to help me understand 
 why vos listvol is effected so badly apprepriated.
 
 Cheers
 
 Matt
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Re: [OpenAFS] openafs fileservers in VMware ESX

2005-04-20 Thread Matthew Cocker

Matthew Cocker wrote:
The question is how much does the overhead of virtualisation (which with 
afs is not much) actually matter with an AFS fileserver and the client 
side caching.
That should read
The question is how much does the overhead of virtualisation (which with
esx is not much) actually matter with an AFS fileserver and the client 
side caching.
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