SubjectOfInvestigation

2005-05-24 Thread Gerard Freriks
Dear Tom and Bert,

The QA was done primarily by Edgar in his project.

When improvements are needed I see two processes.
-1- in CEN a new version.
-2- in ISO in the work on CIC's.

In the mean time we can maintain a file with the lists of proposed and 
the agreed changes.

Who will maintain these lists?

Gerard
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On 23 May 2005, at 18:21, Tom Marley wrote:

 Bert,
 ?
 Although very busy I am looking into this area.?
 ?
 The underlying problem may be that there was so little QA at the time 
 and I feel very strongly that as structures are used there needs to be 
 a proces which allows corrections/improvements and a dissemination of 
 these.
 ?
 Whatever we decide in this area will be 'informally' distributed 
 throughout the TC251 community.
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 I will be in touch and we can discuss options.
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 Regards
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SubjectOfInvestigation

2005-05-24 Thread Bert Verhees
From my opinion, it would be good if someone receives the emails, and saves 
them for later. I t does not seem right if I would do that, I am not involved 
with the standardisation-process, I am only a user of the standard.

I already have about ten issues, which not all may be valid, I can 
misunderstand things, and it is not easy to find someone to discuss things 
with

Better would be if there was a webinterface where people can report their 
found issues.
I have very good experiences with Bugzilla
Bugzilla also offers a interface to discuss the issues, offline over email, 
and online in the interface, and it sends emails to involved persons if 
information to an issue has changed

An example from Bugzilla in use is:
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/

A large list of companies worldwide use Bugzilla
http://www.bugzilla.org/installation-list/

and it is free

Bert Verhees


Op dinsdag 24 mei 2005 07:14, schreef Gerard Freriks:
 Dear Tom and Bert,

 The QA was done primarily by Edgar in his project.

 When improvements are needed I see two processes.
 -1- in CEN a new version.
 -2- in ISO in the work on CIC's.

 In the mean time we can maintain a file with the lists of proposed and
 the agreed changes.

 Who will maintain these lists?

 Gerard
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SubjectOfInvestigation

2005-05-24 Thread Bert Verhees (ROSA Software)
On Tue, May 24, 2005 at 10:28:21AM +0100, Tom Marley wrote:
 Bert,
  
 Thanks, and I agree that a forum should be established which should include 
 the Swedes who are also active in this area.
  
 I looks to me on first sight that Bugzilla is designed for use under 
 Unix/Linux which I do not run.  However, I am currently setting up a server 
 under Windows Server 2003 and am installing SharePoint.  I could set up a 
 forum there which would be accessed over the WEB.  This facility would permit 
 documents to be downloaded/uploaded and could be a repository of designs, 
 updates, findings and other documentation.  In addition I could easiliy set 
 up a Yahoo Group for exchange of emails.  
  
  
 Any thoughts/suggestions?
Seems fine to me, although not perfect, but, given not too much time, not too 
many people for doing it, it seems to me good enough.
Except from the yahoo-mailinglist which requires registration, and if one does 
not fill in the web forms well, one is registered also at companies which 'can 
do related offers' etc.
But later, a own mailinglsit on a non-commercial server could be considered.
For beginning this opportunity is just what we need.

Thanks for bothering, I hope it will make the standard much better.

Except from exchanging ideas about the standard itself, and what could be wrong 
about it, it could also be used for people to help understand the standard 
(like me ;-), explain why choices have been made, setting up FAQ's, example 
code, documentation library.

Oh,oh I am running to fast again, let's start with an infrastructure to address 
issues.

kind regards
Bert Verhees


  
  
  Tom Marley
  
 
 
 Bert Verhees bert.verhees at rosa.nl wrote:
 From my opinion, it would be good if someone receives the emails, and saves 
 them for later. I t does not seem right if I would do that, I am not involved 
 with the standardisation-process, I am only a user of the standard.
 
 I already have about ten issues, which not all may be valid, I can 
 misunderstand things, and it is not easy to find someone to discuss things 
 with
 
 Better would be if there was a webinterface where people can report their 
 found issues.
 I have very good experiences with Bugzilla
 Bugzilla also offers a interface to discuss the issues, offline over email, 
 and online in the interface, and it sends emails to involved persons if 
 information to an issue has changed
 
 An example from Bugzilla in use is:
 https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/
 
 A large list of companies worldwide use Bugzilla
 http://www.bugzilla.org/installation-list/
 
 and it is free
 
 Bert Verhees
 
 
 Op dinsdag 24 mei 2005 07:14, schreef Gerard Freriks:
  Dear Tom and Bert,
 
  The QA was done primarily by Edgar in his project.
 
  When improvements are needed I see two processes.
  -1- in CEN a new version.
  -2- in ISO in the work on CIC's.
 
  In the mean time we can maintain a file with the lists of proposed and
  the agreed changes.
 
  Who will maintain these lists?
 
  Gerard
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BugZila etc. was: SubjectOfInvestigation

2005-05-24 Thread Tim Cook

This post doesn't directly affect me but I thought the information below
might help.

On Tue, 2005-05-24 at 11:39, Bert Verhees (ROSA Software) wrote:
  I looks to me on first sight that Bugzilla is designed for use under 
  Unix/Linux which I do not run. 

There is a Bugzilla distribution for Windows 2000
http://www.parrus.com/project/bugzilla.htm 

 However, I am currently setting up a server under Windows Server 2003 and am 
 installing SharePoint.  
 I could set up a forum there which would be accessed over the WEB.  This 
 facility would permit documents 
 to be downloaded/uploaded and could be a repository of designs, updates, 
 findings and other documentation.

Just as a caution. My experience with SharePoint over the past year or
so has been that it is totally unfriendly to Linux  Mac clients.
The EGADSS project had to finally abandoned it completely and move the
documents to SourceForge in order to provide multiple client support for
the project. (http://www.egadss.org)

 
  In addition I could easiliy set up a Yahoo Group for exchange of emails.  

The objection to Yahoo sign-up is noted. However, there is no
requirement for a Yahoo ID in order to participate on a mailing list. 
You can subscribe/unsubscribe via email or ask the moderator to
subscribe you.

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