Re: [OE-core] [yocto] Subjects for YP Developer Day at ELCE

2016-09-12 Thread William Mills


On 09/09/2016 11:51 AM, Jeff Osier-Mixon wrote:

Hi all - we are in the planning stages for DevDay at ELCE right now,
particularly the advanced track. This track changes every session,
usually to cover the things we are working on hardest - for example,
in San Diego we covered CROPS, devtool, the latest Toaster features,
and much more.

Whether you are able to attend DevDay or not, we would be grateful to
hear your suggestions for subjects to cover in the advanced track. We
are currently planning talks about CROPS, devtool and the ESDK,
Toaster, wic, smack, security, and a few other things. If you have a
burning desire to hear about something specific, please let us know.



*** Status and state of the art for read-only root filesystems.
1) r/o root + tmpfs only for ephemeral systems
2) r/o root + select r/w points (bind-volatile?)
3) r/o root + unionfs r/w

My interest would be in #1 & #2 as it is security related.
r/w mount would be nosuid, nodev, etc and perhaps noexec
A survey of the space should include #3 however.

I know there is a section in the developer manual for the basic 
mechanisms of r/o root but it appears a lot is left as an excrice for 
the user.  Are the full demo images etc?


*** What is the OE/YP response to Ubuntu-core?
4) Can Yocto build transactionally updated-able bundles for kernel and 
core-os/root-fs?

5) Can Yocto [cross-]build snaps or flatpaks?
6) Will snapd (or whatever flatpak needs) become 1st class ecosystem 
components?

Ex: meta-snappy has a lot of good work but is early days
Currently meta-snappy disables AppArmor & seccomp
snapd does only light ns & cgroup control and relies on
  AppArmor to do most of the containment
so snapd w/o AppArmor is a demo
[Arch is no better BTW]

Bill
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Re: [OE-core] [poky] Commit and Patch message guidelines - fifth draft

2011-05-12 Thread William Mills

On 05/12/2011 05:11 PM, Darren Hart wrote:

One more thing. There is a great deal of cross-posting to the various
lists. We should discourage this. At least mentioning somewhere in here
that patches should be sent to the appropriate list with maintainers and
involved developers on CC and not cross posted would be a help.


Ok, so I am going to go ahead and ask the dumb question.  Where is the 
write up that say what list is for what?


It seems to me there is a whole bunch of discussion happening on the 
poky list about making changes that that would effect everyone using 
openembedded-core.  Do we have two lists for discussion of stuff that 
effect the oe-core?


-- Bill

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Re: [OE-core] [poky] Commit and Patch message guidelines - fifth draft

2011-05-12 Thread William Mills


On 05/12/2011 07:49 PM, Darren Hart wrote:

There is: http://www.yoctoproject.org/community/mailing-lists

Which needs to be updated to better reflect the oe-core aspect I think.


This might be at least one source of the cross posting as people are not 
sure poky vs oe-core.



It seems to me there is a whole bunch of discussion happening on the
poky list about making changes that that would effect everyone using
openembedded-core.  Do we have two lists for discussion of stuff that
effect the oe-core?


No. As I understand it, things that go into poky.git/meta and things
that go into oe-core should be sent to the openembedded-core list. Patch
series for poky.git should be isolated in such a way so that they do not
include changes to meta (oe-core) and other areas at the same time.


 Does anyone have a different view?


This seems logical to me. Thanks.  I also think discussion of a 
potential patch should be done on the list that the patch would go to yes?


Maybe we could drive that definition to ground and get the mailing list 
page updated.


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So above, perhaps my whole bunch was overstated.  Let me retract that 
and say at least some.


I don't mean to pick on you Darren; I really am just trying to 
understand and an example is often helpful.  Earlier you and Richard 
were discussing directdisc images [1] with a suggestion that it might be 
ripe for removal.  Should that have been on oe-core?


[1] https://lists.yoctoproject.org/pipermail/poky/2011-May/006106.htm

Thanks,
Bill

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