Re: [OpenFontLibrary] Using genetic algorithms to create fonts

2009-07-10 Thread Aaron Spaulding
Ed Trager wrote:
> Hi, Aaron,
> 
> I don't really know anything about genetic programming algorithms
> since I've never done that kind of work.
> 
> But I guess there has to be a "fitness" criteria in there somewhere
> that determines whether the offspring live to reproduce or die.  That
> fitness criteria clearly needs to be based on whether people can read
> the letters or not.  So maybe some kind of voting system?  More
> highly-ranked ones have more chances to "mate" and produce offspring,
> less highly-ranked ones die sooner with fewer offspring.  Something
> like that ...

Thats exactly the way it works, but the database was populated with
randomness.  Even after many generations, its still nonsense.  For
example i just got five letters that resemble: m, r, 3, unicorn, man
using a crossbow while wearing a scarf...

At this point its more of a personality test.  Unless there's a UTF code
point for "Unicorn" that I'm not aware of. :)

> Best - Ed

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Re: [OpenFontLibrary] Using genetic algorithms to create fonts

2009-07-10 Thread Ed Trager
Hi, Aaron,

I don't really know anything about genetic programming algorithms
since I've never done that kind of work.

But I guess there has to be a "fitness" criteria in there somewhere
that determines whether the offspring live to reproduce or die.  That
fitness criteria clearly needs to be based on whether people can read
the letters or not.  So maybe some kind of voting system?  More
highly-ranked ones have more chances to "mate" and produce offspring,
less highly-ranked ones die sooner with fewer offspring.  Something
like that ...

Best - Ed

On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 12:26 PM, Aaron
Spaulding wrote:
> Ed Trager wrote:
>> An interesting idea, Aaron ...
>>
>> ... but I could not identify even one letter correctly, and the
>> "offspring" were equally unidentifiable ...
>
> Yeah, thats the problem.  I didn't want to bias the result, but I also
> don't want it to take millions years.  I'm thinking of pre-populating
> the database, but I'm open for input.
>
>> Best - Ed
>
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Re: [OpenFontLibrary] Using genetic algorithms to create fonts

2009-07-10 Thread Aaron Spaulding
Ed Trager wrote:
> An interesting idea, Aaron ...
> 
> ... but I could not identify even one letter correctly, and the
> "offspring" were equally unidentifiable ...

Yeah, thats the problem.  I didn't want to bias the result, but I also
don't want it to take millions years.  I'm thinking of pre-populating
the database, but I'm open for input.

> Best - Ed

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Re: [OpenFontLibrary] Using genetic algorithms to create fonts

2009-07-10 Thread Ed Trager
An interesting idea, Aaron ...

... but I could not identify even one letter correctly, and the
"offspring" were equally unidentifiable ...

Best - Ed

On Fri, Jul 3, 2009 at 2:19 PM, Aaron
Spaulding wrote:
> About a month ago I was thinking about what happen if fonts would be
> able to adapt to the reader?  If each person had a font would they
> differ wildly? or would they be similar?
>
> I started working on a basic implementation of an adaptive font, it uses
> a genetic algorithm, to select the best letters or numbers.
>
> http://code.sachimp.com/labs/genetic_font_editor/
>
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