Re: [openhealth] OSHCA registration update
Currently, OSHCA mostly operates in an e-reality (i.e. this list + email etc) and is likely to do so for some time. Therefore it is centralised in the sense of a legal entity. Unless anyone wants to do any trading as OSHCA locally, I would not think that incorporation anywhere but for the mother ship is useful...not being incoporated doesn't mean that local people can't do things, it just means they can't directly directly accept payments to OSHCA (but they can of course use their own institutions or companies acting as a chapter of OSHCA). Let's keep things small and simple to start with please - thomas beale Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/openhealth/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [openhealth] OSHCA registration update
Hi to all, The overall feeling is very good. Some comments anyway: 3.1: Chapters and country branchs I think this point should be made more accurate. It is eventually a very important one, since local lobbying is of major interest. Have local branchs to be non profit organizations? Are local branchs members plain members of the main Oshca? Do they pay a plain fee to main Oshca, or do the local branch keep some part of this fee? I believe that this chapter must be properly elaborated. 4.2 Missions My feeling is that point 4.2.6 Enables collaboration of members... should be the first or second point in the list. Details : 4.2.2 Provide... with no s while other points have a s (Makes, Provides, Participates...) To be more accurate on my feelings here: I believe that any valuable association must be a think tank, where members find pleasure to meet each other and learn from each other, before it can be a lobbying actor. To make it short: build the group before acting as a group. Article 8: General Meeting There is no indication on the place where the General Meeting occurs. Couldn't it be stated that the General Meeting should occur in the place where the Annual conference is held. I write this because point 8.3 gives a calendar that doesn't allow this usual practice. That's all for today... I return to my games of Roulette, Lotto, Fan Tan, Poh, Peh Bin, Belankai, Pai Kau, Tau Ngau, Tien Ngau, Tien Kow, Chap Ji Kee, Sam Cheong, Twenty One, Thirty One, Ten and a half before they are officially outlawed for genuine open sourcers ;-) Cheers, Philippe Molly Cheah a écrit : Hi, I have uploaded the OSHCA-registration_v1draft4 in pdf format for discussion on its contents. Please feel free to comment on any articles in the constitution. For ease of documentation, please quote the article number before giving your comments or proposals here. Please also suggest how dissent should be handled. We hope to include your proposals into the draft document, unless there are dissenting views in which case either the protem will decide or there would be a vote. However, please note that the constitution is a living document and amendments can also be made later. Please also note that there are some provisions that will be specific in Malaysia such as Article 16 and Malaysian citizens such as Article 16.4. I have yet to include provisions that would be needed to obtain a tax free status for OSHCA. The only requirement I've included in so far is that of Article 11.2. We hope to have this process completed at the end of a 7-day period. By then, I would put up the agreed resolutions for acceptance by the members which would form part of the documentations that would be submitted formally to the Registrar of Societies for registration. Below is a sample resolution for the formation of OSHCA. If you would like to add other resolutions please suggest on this list as well. _Formation of an Organisation_ It was resolved that:- 1.1. This protem Committee form Open Source Health Care Alliance in accordance with the Societies Act 1966, and the Societies Regulations 1984, and all subsequent amendments:- Moved by : Seconded by : Passed : Unanimously It was resolved that:- 1.2. The above organisation be called Open Source Health Care Alliance Moved by: Seconded by: Passed : Unanimously It was resolved that:- 1.3. The address of this organisation be: Moved by: Seconded by: Passed : Unanimously _Election of Office Bearers_ The following volunteers were received for Protem Office Bearers of the organisation:- *President : *Deputy President : *Secretary and Deputy Secretary : *Treasurer : *Committee Members : : : : : : : In the absence of any opposition to the above positions, It was resolved that:- 1.4. The above persons be duly elected protem Office Bearers of the Open Source Health Care Alliance Moved by: Seconded by: Passed : Unanimously _Constitution_ A draft constitution, based on the Model Society Constitution supplied by the Office of the Registrar of Societies, was tabled by the protem committee for discussion and adoption. It was resolved that:- 1.5. The Constitution, as discussed and amended (and attached to these minutes), be written out in full for signing by two Office Bearers for submission to the Registrar of Societies, and a meeting of potential members on a date to be decided. Moved by : Seconded by: Passed : Unanimously. _Registration of the Organisation_ It was resolved that:- 1.6. The protem President proceed with the completion of the registration forms to ensure a temporary registration as soon as possible. Moved by : Seconded by: Passed : Unanimously One major question I have is: Should only those who participate in the resolution to accept the constitution be accepted as initial members of OSHCA and what are the members information we need to have in the membership register? Target date for submission
Re: [openhealth] OSHCA registration update
Constitution of the Open Source Health Care Alliance Hi Molly, A few questions/suggestions. 9.3 - Names for the above offices in Article 9.1 shall be proposed and seconded and election will be by a simple majority vote of the members at the annual general meeting on alternate years. All the office-bearers shall serve for two years and be eligible for re-election. How many times can any one of the office bearers be re-elected? Should there be a restriction? 10.6 - The Ordinary Committee Members shall carry out such duty as directed by the President or the Committee. under the guidance and approval of the President and Committee? Constitution of the Open Source Health Care Alliance 11.2 - Subject to the following provisions in this rules, the funds of OSHCA may be expended for the purpose necessary for the carrying out of its objects, and to spend at the end of the financial year approximately seventy percent (70%) from the income and donation received.Expenditures may include the expenses of its office-bearers and paid staff, and the audit of its accounts, but they shall on no account be used to pay the fine of any member who may be convicted in a court of law. Is it compulsary that we spend 70% or is that the maximum allowed? Constitution of the Open Source Health Care Alliance 16.4 - No University/College student can be allowed to be a member of OSHCA without the prior written approval from the Vice Chancellor of the University concerned. This clause shall only be applicable in Malaysia and any other country that has a similar restriction. Membership for University/College students may need the prior written approval of the Head of the University concerned. This applies in Malaysia and any other country where such rules and restrictions apply. NandA Constitution of the Open Source Health Care Alliance Molly Cheah [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Since the list has become unduly quiet, I'm taking this opportunity to provide a short update on the OSHCA registration. The registration document is at version1 draft 3, sent out to the Protem Committee yesterday. I think we are quite close to the final draft, which will be uploaded to the list for comments and discussions, hopefully by tomorrow but for a limited period of time, possibly 7 days. I would also need to submit a list of resolutions for adoption, essentially to say that we all agree to the registration of OSHCA and adopting the constitution. I had been to see the Registrar of Societies and obtained the necessary forms that was used as sample to develop the registration constitution/document. I had also spoken to GKP which used the incorporation method for their organisation - company limited by guarantee with a non-profit status. As a company is more costly to maintain, preliminary view of some protem committee members feel that we register under the Societies Act. We will then provide a list of items for discussions (as guidelines) but you're welcomed to comment on any item, except for those which constitute minimal requirements for registration in Malaysia. Issues to think about are: types of membership membership info membership dues OSHCA chapters/country branches office-bearers - how many, length of term etc. Rgds, Molly - YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group openhealth on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. - __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/openhealth/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[openhealth] OSHCA registration update
Since the list has become unduly quiet, I'm taking this opportunity to provide a short update on the OSHCA registration. The registration document is at version1 draft 3, sent out to the Protem Committee yesterday. I think we are quite close to the final draft, which will be uploaded to the list for comments and discussions, hopefully by tomorrow but for a limited period of time, possibly 7 days. I would also need to submit a list of resolutions for adoption, essentially to say that we all agree to the registration of OSHCA and adopting the constitution. I had been to see the Registrar of Societies and obtained the necessary forms that was used as sample to develop the registration constitution/document. I had also spoken to GKP which used the incorporation method for their organisation - company limited by guarantee with a non-profit status. As a company is more costly to maintain, preliminary view of some protem committee members feel that we register under the Societies Act. We will then provide a list of items for discussions (as guidelines) but you're welcomed to comment on any item, except for those which constitute minimal requirements for registration in Malaysia. Issues to think about are: types of membership membership info membership dues OSHCA chapters/country branches office-bearers - how many, length of term etc. Rgds, Molly Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/openhealth/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/