Re: [openhealth] Should we make FOSS Health conference exclusive?

2009-03-12 Thread Thomas Karopka
Hi Fred,

I think it is a good strategy to raise prices but to still be open.

Unfortunately I can not participate in the event due to my limited 
budget but I would prefer to have an open event.
I support Tim's view that it is neccessary to address also people 
outside the core community.
But it mainly depends on your focus. What is your conference like? Is it 
more on strengthening collaboration between different FLOSS-HC projects
and the community of developers in FLOSS-HC or do you also want to 
attract potential users and new developers for FLOSS HC.
In the latter case try to be as open as possible.

 From my experience of organizing the OSEHC workshop (follow-up webpage 
under construction: http://wikicts.med.up.pt/index.php/OSEHC_Workshop) 
http://wikicts.med.up.pt/index.php/OSEHC_Workshop
it is very fruitful to have people with different backgrounds with 
different needs and perspectives.
Being open raises your chance to have new FOFs at the end of the day :-).

I'm currently organizing a FLOSS-HC workshop at Med-e-Tel in Luxemburg 
together with Etienne Saliez 
(http://www.medetel.eu/index.php?rub=educational_programpage=program 
http://www.medetel.eu/index.php?rub=educational_programpage=program)
(Sustainable collaborations in healthcare open source software 
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I whish you all the best for your conference and I hope we find a way of 
exchanging experience and knowledge and may be a way of collaboration in 
future events.

Best regards,
Thomas




fred trotter schrieb:

 Hi,
 So Early bird sales for the conference have gone really well. Much
 better than I expected, and potentially problematically well. If DOHCS
 attendance is any indicator, there will be a spike of late 
 registrations. I
 may be running out of space, which is not a problem if I know months in
 advance but is a problem if I know days or hours.

 I have had several people email me saying I just missed early bird
 registration, can I still get tickets at that price? The answer is 
 no, that
 would not be fair to the people who have registered on time. However, in
 sympathy to your pleas I have created a new almost early bird ticket 
 sale
 that costs only a little more than early bird. You can purchase the 
 tickets
 here:

 http://fosshealth.eventbrite.com http://fosshealth.eventbrite.com

 I am telling you know, if you want to go, or you think you might
 want to go, buy your tickets now. Otherwise, you will forget and then you
 will be emailing me asking for special treatment again. The people who
 register earliest will get the best deal, I will only raise prices as the
 deadline approaches.

 Do not let this happen to you!!

 Now for the main point of my message. Is it appropriate for me to
 make this an invitation-only event, like FOO camp? I could call it Friends
 of Fred or FOF (ok thats a terrible idea). The point is, it would help me
 keep the conference size down and ensure that everyone there was really
 important and/or doing really interesting work. Frankly I do not like the
 idea, it feels bad to make anything FOSS closed like that, but otherwise,
 conference planning might be impossible.

 Let me know what you think!!

 -- 
 Fred Trotter
 http://www.fredtrotter.com http://www.fredtrotter.com

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[openhealth] Should we make FOSS Health conference exclusive?

2009-03-11 Thread fred trotter
Hi,
So Early bird sales for the conference have gone really well. Much
better than I expected, and potentially problematically well. If DOHCS
attendance is any indicator, there will be a spike of late registrations. I
may be running out of space, which is not a problem if I know months in
advance but is a problem if I know days or hours.

I have had several people email me saying I just missed early bird
registration, can I still get tickets at that price? The answer is no, that
would not be fair to the people who have registered on time. However, in
sympathy to your pleas I have created a new almost early bird ticket sale
that costs only a little more than early bird. You can purchase the tickets
here:

http://fosshealth.eventbrite.com

I am telling you know, if you want to go, or you think you might
want to go, buy your tickets now. Otherwise, you will forget and then you
will be emailing me asking for special treatment again. The people who
register earliest will get the best deal, I will only raise prices as the
deadline approaches.

Do not let this happen to you!!

Now for the main point of my message. Is it appropriate for me to
make this an invitation-only event, like FOO camp?  I could call it Friends
of Fred or FOF (ok thats a terrible idea). The point is, it would help me
keep the conference size down and ensure that everyone there was really
important and/or doing really interesting work. Frankly I do not like the
idea, it feels bad to make anything FOSS closed like that, but otherwise,
conference planning might be impossible.

Let me know what you think!!

-- 
Fred Trotter
http://www.fredtrotter.com


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Re: [openhealth] Should we make FOSS Health conference exclusive?

2009-03-11 Thread Tim Cook
On Wed, 2009-03-11 at 08:31 -0500, fred trotter wrote:

 Now for the main point of my message. Is it appropriate for me to
 make this an invitation-only event, like FOO camp? I could call it
 Friends
 of Fred or FOF (ok thats a terrible idea). The point is, it would help
 me
 keep the conference size down and ensure that everyone there was
 really
 important and/or doing really interesting work. Frankly I do not like
 the
 idea, it feels bad to make anything FOSS closed like that, but
 otherwise,
 conference planning might be impossible.
 
 Let me know what you think!!

Hi Fred,

Thanks for taking on this chore.  Conference planning and organization
is a pain no matter what you do (as far as I have experienced).  

FOF -REALLY! bad idea. :-)

We need to be reaching out beyond the current FOSS healthcare community.
That is why I have started to present at full FOSS events like the
upcoming International Forum for Free Software
http://fisl.softwarelivre.org/10/www/ 

Ranting and raving at the current group of people is like preaching to
the choir or worse, slashing at windmills.  We need to acknowledge
and address the shortcomings of current FOSS offerings and work with a
larger community to address those issues.  

People around the world are recognizing the benefits in open source
software but they also want real interoperability.  Some places are
greenfields and others have legacy issues to deal with.  The true open
source consultant will recognize those on a case by case basis; instead
of charging in with ONE solution.  That is very much like the
proprietary guys do and it really doesn't resonate with buyers.

I wish you the best with DOHCS and I really wish I could be there.  But,
it is a long way from the sunny beaches of Brazil and alas I found no
funding. :-)

Cheers,
Tim



 






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Re: [openhealth] Should we make FOSS Health conference exclusive?

2009-03-11 Thread Karsten Hilbert
 Now for the main point of my message. Is it appropriate for me to
 make this an invitation-only event, like FOO camp?  I could call it
 Friends
 of Fred or FOF (ok thats a terrible idea). The point is, it would help me
 keep the conference size down and ensure that everyone there was really
 important and/or doing really interesting work. Frankly I do not like the
 idea, it feels bad to make anything FOSS closed like that, but otherwise,
 conference planning might be impossible.

I think it's your good right to do so.

Karsten
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