Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] cryptic device naming?
- Original Message - On 19/11/10 05:47 AM, Roy Sigurd Karlsbakk wrote: Tried that - told me no card found. Seems it doesn't support the LSI SAS2 card search for sas2ircu instead. I tried that, but I can't find an option to change device order: LSI Corporation SAS2 IR Configuration Utility. Version 5.00.00.00 (2010.02.09) Copyright (c) 2009 LSI Corporation. All rights reserved. SAS2IRCU: Invalid command specified. sas2ircu controller # command parameters ... where controller # is: Number between 0 and 255 where command is: DISPLAY- display controller, volume and physical device info LIST - Lists all available LSI adapters (does not need ctlr # CREATE - create an IR volume DELETE - set controller configuration to factory defaults HOTSPARE - make drive a hot spare STATUS - display current volume status info CONSTCHK - Start Consistency Check operation on the specified IR Volume ACTIVATE - Activate an Inactive IR volume LOCATE - Locate a disk drive on an enclosure LOGIR - Upload or Clear IR Log data BOOTIR - Select an IR Boot Volume as primary boot device BOOTENCL - Select an Enclosure/Bay as primary boot device where parameters are: Command specific values; enter sas2ircu controller # command to get command specific help Vennlige hilsener / Best regards roy -- Roy Sigurd Karlsbakk (+47) 97542685 r...@karlsbakk.net http://blogg.karlsbakk.net/ -- I all pedagogikk er det essensielt at pensum presenteres intelligibelt. Det er et elementært imperativ for alle pedagoger å unngå eksessiv anvendelse av idiomer med fremmed opprinnelse. I de fleste tilfeller eksisterer adekvate og relevante synonymer på norsk. ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] [oi-dev] [illumos-Developer] OpenIndiana and illumos, part 2
Very nice Gabriel. I for one would be happy to share a beer with you or anyone else who is on this list for that matter. I think it's safe to say that anyone one who is on this list is a little special. I think it's also safe to say that we all share a common desire to see this great OS continue to be so. Considering what has happed to OpenSolaris and SUN, It's understandable and forgivable for one to become frustrated and defensive. I certainly feel that way at times. Mike P.S. Yes, the word special can be interpreted in many ways, and they probably all somewhat apply. ;-) On Sun, 2010-11-21 at 16:19 +0200, Gabriel de la Cruz wrote: Dear Mr Christopher Chan Different points of view, remarks, or complains of any short from person to person shouldn't be understood as serious faults to the honor of anyone, as long as we do not involve insults. In my opinion all wounds from the previous fire should be now cured, and I honestly don't think the current thread even points out to the past. For whatever that might have cause disturbance for you, I should apologize. After analyzing the situation for some time I would like to highlight the possibility of cultural or interdisciplinary misunderstandings in the back-end of the current conflict. Probably we are misunderstanding certain responses as more insulting than what they really are for the one expressing them. It is obvious that we talk the same language, but probably we are missing the real meaning of things. In Europe the use of irony is very frequent, for example French are specially difficult in that sense, they could spend the whole day throwing subliminal irony over you and still be your best friends. And yes they complain, all the time, for everything. If a french guy mocks at you by twisting the nicest poetry, you are not supposed to get angry but probably you are expected to pay back, but always between the lines, not really fighting back. Another example all the way around could be expressions like; chéng zhǎng, if translated as grow up could be pretty humiliating at some places in Europe, while is not as harsh if you read it in Chinese. I meet daily with designers and we appreciate non sense commentaries as it is efficient while brainstorming, as well we like the conversations to be free from any form of censorship or even moderation as may things could otherwise just vanish. The relationship with respect and figures of authority are not the same all around the world, I never had the pleasure to visit Hong Kong, but I can share some curiosities from the time I was living in Beijing; I remember I was hanging around Renmin University during a whole summer, I was meeting daily one of the persons who were coordinating the foreign students, as I was joining some interesting lectures and excursions just because of my own interest. That person asumed I was student because of the fact I was meeting regularly with the group of Finnish students, and kept all the way treating me with a very official attitude, he was sweating under the sun with me but kept all the time a perfectly correct manners, not even showing he needed water. But one of those extremely hot days, he realized I was a faculty member, not a student, so he suddenly relaxed completely down and was finally able to enjoy the time together. He didn't need to show his position anymore... We had quite much better time after this moment. This might seem very normal for a chinese, but to me it was all a discovery!. Probably I have been mistreating my Chinese student for years, treating him as if he was just my self.. What I came to say is, we are very different, I do not think there is bad intention anywhere in this list, people complains when they have to, but within some limits. Respect does not take the same form everywhere, we should just apply a *presumption of innocence* concept, no one is guilty unless we can prove something else. If you were around the corner, I would invite you for a beer, what is in my terms certain form of honor. All the best Gabriel On Sun, Nov 21, 2010 at 11:38 AM, Christopher Chan christopher.c...@bradbury.edu.hk wrote: On Saturday, November 20, 2010 05:40 PM, Jose-Marcio Martins da Cruz wrote: Christopher Chan wrote: On Saturday, November 20, 2010 07:56 AM, Gary wrote: I'm replying to this thread here instead of on the developer lest someone issue me a netiquette citation for being off topic. How do you quantify something like that? Even if you have some industry confirmed sales numbers comparable to IDC tracking desktop PC and notebook sales, how do you figure out just how many users a server has regardless of its operating system? Does a web server have a half dozen users because there are two sysadmins, two content providers, and two developers? Or does it have 10 million unique visitors every day and therefore have ten million and six
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] [oi-dev] [illumos-Developer] OpenIndiana and illumos, part 2
Your last argument could be only refuted by Monty Python, when Brian states: We are all different... everybody agrees but a guy from the back rises the hand and answers not me. Everyone else is special but that guy. Cheers On Sun, Nov 21, 2010 at 6:28 PM, Michael Stapleton michael.staple...@techsologic.com wrote: Very nice Gabriel. I for one would be happy to share a beer with you or anyone else who is on this list for that matter. I think it's safe to say that anyone one who is on this list is a little special. I think it's also safe to say that we all share a common desire to see this great OS continue to be so. Considering what has happed to OpenSolaris and SUN, It's understandable and forgivable for one to become frustrated and defensive. I certainly feel that way at times. Mike P.S. Yes, the word special can be interpreted in many ways, and they probably all somewhat apply. ;-) On Sun, 2010-11-21 at 16:19 +0200, Gabriel de la Cruz wrote: Dear Mr Christopher Chan Different points of view, remarks, or complains of any short from person to person shouldn't be understood as serious faults to the honor of anyone, as long as we do not involve insults. In my opinion all wounds from the previous fire should be now cured, and I honestly don't think the current thread even points out to the past. For whatever that might have cause disturbance for you, I should apologize. After analyzing the situation for some time I would like to highlight the possibility of cultural or interdisciplinary misunderstandings in the back-end of the current conflict. Probably we are misunderstanding certain responses as more insulting than what they really are for the one expressing them. It is obvious that we talk the same language, but probably we are missing the real meaning of things. In Europe the use of irony is very frequent, for example French are specially difficult in that sense, they could spend the whole day throwing subliminal irony over you and still be your best friends. And yes they complain, all the time, for everything. If a french guy mocks at you by twisting the nicest poetry, you are not supposed to get angry but probably you are expected to pay back, but always between the lines, not really fighting back. Another example all the way around could be expressions like; chéng zhǎng, if translated as grow up could be pretty humiliating at some places in Europe, while is not as harsh if you read it in Chinese. I meet daily with designers and we appreciate non sense commentaries as it is efficient while brainstorming, as well we like the conversations to be free from any form of censorship or even moderation as may things could otherwise just vanish. The relationship with respect and figures of authority are not the same all around the world, I never had the pleasure to visit Hong Kong, but I can share some curiosities from the time I was living in Beijing; I remember I was hanging around Renmin University during a whole summer, I was meeting daily one of the persons who were coordinating the foreign students, as I was joining some interesting lectures and excursions just because of my own interest. That person asumed I was student because of the fact I was meeting regularly with the group of Finnish students, and kept all the way treating me with a very official attitude, he was sweating under the sun with me but kept all the time a perfectly correct manners, not even showing he needed water. But one of those extremely hot days, he realized I was a faculty member, not a student, so he suddenly relaxed completely down and was finally able to enjoy the time together. He didn't need to show his position anymore... We had quite much better time after this moment. This might seem very normal for a chinese, but to me it was all a discovery!. Probably I have been mistreating my Chinese student for years, treating him as if he was just my self.. What I came to say is, we are very different, I do not think there is bad intention anywhere in this list, people complains when they have to, but within some limits. Respect does not take the same form everywhere, we should just apply a *presumption of innocence* concept, no one is guilty unless we can prove something else. If you were around the corner, I would invite you for a beer, what is in my terms certain form of honor. All the best Gabriel On Sun, Nov 21, 2010 at 11:38 AM, Christopher Chan christopher.c...@bradbury.edu.hk wrote: On Saturday, November 20, 2010 05:40 PM, Jose-Marcio Martins da Cruz wrote: Christopher Chan wrote: On Saturday, November 20, 2010 07:56 AM, Gary wrote: I'm replying to this thread here instead of on the developer lest someone issue me a netiquette citation for being off topic. How do you quantify something like that? Even if
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] List Downtime
On 20 November 2010 01:28, Sevan / Venture37 ventur...@gmail.com wrote: Hiya, Just to let you know, the mailing list will be down for a short while between 8 to 9pm GMT this Sunday (21st). Everything should be back to normal again. I think :) Sevan ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
[OpenIndiana-discuss] zpool command: some questions.
I am not sure of the consequences of the following zpool command: zpool create mypool /dev/dsk/c5t0d0p2 (c5t0d0p2 is where I have the unbootable OpenSolaris partition from where I want to recover some files) Does it prepare the partition for the mount commands?Or does it erase and format the partition? Or is it better to use: zpool import ? and after: zfs set mountpoint=legacy mypool mount -F zfs mypool /mnt ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] zpool command: some questions.
Anthony Renaud wrote: I am not sure of the consequences of the following zpool command: zpool create mypool /dev/dsk/c5t0d0p2 It turns the second primary FDISK partition on that disk into a zpool. (c5t0d0p2 is where I have the unbootable OpenSolaris partition from where I want to recover some files) It's not clear from what you've said if that was a root zpool from what you've said, or some other zpool. zfs root pools have to be on a slice which is part of an SMI labeled partition (on x86). The device name for that will end in s0, not p2. If it wasn't a root pool, then it depends how you created it. Does it prepare the partition for the mount commands?Or does it erase and format the partition? Effectively, erase and format. Or is it better to use: zpool import ? Yes. and after: zfs set mountpoint=legacy mypool mount -F zfs mypool /mnt Can't think why you'd want to do that. -- Andrew ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] [oi-dev] [illumos-Developer] OpenIndiana and illumos, part 2
On Monday, November 22, 2010 04:11 AM, Gary wrote: On Sun, Nov 21, 2010 at 6:09 AM, Jose-Marcio Martins da Cruz wrote: There are two kind of innovations : some which is the rewrite of something which where already exists elsewhere (e.g. zfs under FreeBSD), and, I actually tried looking at that for a short time -- is it any good? How about the port to NetBSD? We're using NexentaStor licensed and community editions in production but I was merely trying to learn what features of ZFS they've implemented (not counting the newest ones found only in Solaris Express 11). It looks like the Wikipedia entry is fairly current as I haven't looked at it in a while. FreeBSD's performance is way under par according to testing by zfsbuilds. But the FreeBSD guys claim old distro because FreeNAS was based on an older FreeBSD release then current so ymmv. For the moment, Illumos has one one distrib : OpenIndiana. The main goal now shall be to survive. AFAIK, SchilliX is thus far the only distribution based on Illumos as work to build OI on Illumos is still in progress. But I hope OpenIndiana and Illumos will find the way to cooperate and create a very good OS. Hear, hear! +1 ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] [oi-dev] [illumos-Developer] OpenIndiana and illumos, part 2
On Sunday, November 21, 2010 10:19 PM, Gabriel de la Cruz wrote: Dear Mr Christopher Chan Different points of view, remarks, or complains of any short from person to person shouldn't be understood as serious faults to the honor of anyone, as long as we do not involve insults. In my opinion all wounds from the previous fire should be now cured, and I honestly don't think the current thread even points out to the past. I just lost context because I treated Gary's post here as a new thread. I did not realize Jose was ranting about Garrett's displeasure with the current state of affairs. Hence why I said what seems to be a sarcastic because it, by itself, is not sarcastic but if coupled with the rant, it could be but I was not sure. I am sure you would have noticed that I was just trying to feel Jose out. For whatever that might have cause disturbance for you, I should apologize. After analyzing the situation for some time I would like to highlight the possibility of cultural or interdisciplinary misunderstandings in the back-end of the current conflict. Probably we are misunderstanding certain responses as more insulting than what they really are for the one expressing them. It is obvious that we talk the same language, but probably we are missing the real meaning of things. In Europe the use of irony is very frequent, for example French are specially difficult in that sense, they could spend the whole day throwing subliminal irony over you and still be your best friends. And yes they complain, all the time, for everything. If a french guy mocks at you by twisting the nicest poetry, you are not supposed to get angry but probably you are expected to pay back, but always between the lines, not really fighting back. Another example all the way around could be expressions like; chéng zhǎng, if translated as grow up could be pretty humiliating at some places in Europe, while is not as harsh if you read it in Chinese. Just for your information, I maybe ethnic Chinese physically but I sure am not Chinese. I understand quite clearly what 'Grow up!' implies and I have absolutely no idea what 'cheng zhang' means or rather I can only guess at what the equivalent of 'cheng' would be in Cantonese but I am completely lost about 'zhang'. You could say that I am more African than I am Chinese even though I have spent the last twenty or so years in Hong Kong. I meet daily with designers and we appreciate non sense commentaries as it is efficient while brainstorming, as well we like the conversations to be free from any form of censorship or even moderation as may things could otherwise just vanish. You may have noticed that I specifically said we cannot have Jose or anybody else keeping their mouths shut when they have something to say. The relationship with respect and figures of authority are not the same all around the world, I never had the pleasure to visit Hong Kong, but I can share some curiosities from the time I was living in Beijing; I remember I was hanging around Renmin University during a whole summer, I was meeting daily one of the persons who were coordinating the foreign students, as I was joining some interesting lectures and excursions just because of my own interest. That person asumed I was student because of the fact I was meeting regularly with the group of Finnish students, and kept all the way treating me with a very official attitude, he was sweating under the sun with me but kept all the time a perfectly correct manners, not even showing he needed water. But one of those extremely hot days, he realized I was a faculty member, not a student, so he suddenly relaxed completely down and was finally able to enjoy the time together. He didn't need to show his position anymore... We had quite much better time after this moment. This might seem very normal for a chinese, but to me it was all a discovery!. Probably I have been mistreating my Chinese student for years, treating him as if he was just my self.. I have no idea what 'mainland' Chinese thinking is like but I daresay that in some (most?) respects it would be way better than the narrow-mindedness of a good portion of the local Hong Kong population (local Chinese and Pakistani communities especially - strange that they also invariably make up the poorer sections of Hong Kong) except for maybe certain community etiquette like queuing up for a bus. What I came to say is, we are very different, I do not think there is bad intention anywhere in this list, people complains when they have to, but within some limits. Respect does not take the same form everywhere, we should just apply a *presumption of innocence* concept, no one is guilty unless we can prove something else. If you were around the corner, I would invite you for a beer, what is in my terms certain form of honor. Thanks, I know that one and I would heartily accept if you were here but with a glass of wine as I get beer rashes. (We are very
[OpenIndiana-discuss] find size of raw disks
Is there some way to determine the size of disks discovered with `format' An attempt to create a 2 disk mirror failed with the message that the disks were different sizes, but I thought they were the same size... I must have used the wrong identifier for one of the disks... so to find the matching disk how can I tell what size the discs turned up by format are? ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] find size of raw disks
On 22/11/10 01:44 PM, Harry Putnam wrote: Is there some way to determine the size of disks discovered with `format' An attempt to create a 2 disk mirror failed with the message that the disks were different sizes, but I thought they were the same size... I must have used the wrong identifier for one of the disks... so to find the matching disk how can I tell what size the discs turned up by format are? $ pfexec format Searching for disks...done AVAILABLE DISK SELECTIONS: 0. c3t4d0 ATA-ST3320620AS-Dcyl 38910 alt 2 hd 255 sec 63 /p...@0,0/pci10de,3...@a/pci1000,3...@0/s...@4,0 1. c3t6d0 ATA-ST3320620AS-Kcyl 38910 alt 2 hd 255 sec 63 /p...@0,0/pci10de,3...@a/pci1000,3...@0/s...@6,0 2. c5t5000C500204C9482d0 ATA-ST31000528AS -CC38 cyl 60797 alt 2 hd 255 sec 126 /scsi_vhci/d...@g5000c500204c9482 3. c5t5000C500205E77DBd0 ATA-ST31000528AS -CC38 cyl 60797 alt 2 hd 255 sec 126 /scsi_vhci/d...@g5000c500205e77db 4. c5t5000CCA35DE9C580d0 ATA-Hitachi HDS7210-A3EA cyl 60797 alt 2 hd 255 sec 126 /scsi_vhci/d...@g5000cca35de9c580 5. c5t5000CCA35DEA1ED5d0 ATA-Hitachi HDS7210-A3EA cyl 60797 alt 2 hd 255 sec 126 /scsi_vhci/d...@g5000cca35dea1ed5 6. c5t5000CCA00510A7CCd0 HITACHI-HUS1514SBSUN146-SA02 cyl 17826 alt 2 hd 255 sec 63 /scsi_vhci/d...@g5000cca00510a7cc 7. c5t50024E90037AF38Cd0 ATA-SAMSUNG HD103SJ-0001 cyl 60797 alt 2 hd 255 sec 126 /scsi_vhci/d...@g50024e90037af38c 8. c5t50024E90037AF390d0 ATA-SAMSUNG HD103SJ-0001 cyl 60797 alt 2 hd 255 sec 126 /scsi_vhci/d...@g50024e90037af390 9. c6t0d0 drive type unknown /p...@0,0/pci108e,6...@2,1/h...@6/h...@1/stor...@1/d...@0,0 10. c6t0d1 drive type unknown /p...@0,0/pci108e,6...@2,1/h...@6/h...@1/stor...@1/d...@0,1 It's mostly the cylinder numbers that you need to watch out for. If you have devices with the same claimed manufacturer size but different geometry, I'd create a slice of the maximum size on the smaller disk, then create a slice with the same number of cylinders on the larger disk, and then mirror those two slices. McB ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] find size of raw disks
McBofh james.c.mcpher...@gmail.com writes: On 22/11/10 01:44 PM, Harry Putnam wrote: Is there some way to determine the size of disks discovered with `format' An attempt to create a 2 disk mirror failed with the message that the disks were different sizes, but I thought they were the same size... I must have used the wrong identifier for one of the disks... so to find the matching disk how can I tell what size the discs turned up by format are? $ pfexec format Searching for disks...done AVAILABLE DISK SELECTIONS: 0. c3t4d0 ATA-ST3320620AS-Dcyl 38910 alt 2 hd 255 sec 63 /p...@0,0/pci10de,3...@a/pci1000,3...@0/s...@4,0 1. c3t6d0 ATA-ST3320620AS-Kcyl 38910 alt 2 hd 255 sec 63 /p...@0,0/pci10de,3...@a/pci1000,3...@0/s...@6,0 2. c5t5000C500204C9482d0 ATA-ST31000528AS -CC38 cyl 60797 alt 2 hd 255 sec 126 /scsi_vhci/d...@g5000c500204c9482 3. c5t5000C500205E77DBd0 ATA-ST31000528AS -CC38 cyl 60797 alt 2 hd 255 sec 126 /scsi_vhci/d...@g5000c500205e77db 4. c5t5000CCA35DE9C580d0 ATA-Hitachi HDS7210-A3EA cyl 60797 alt 2 hd 255 sec 126 /scsi_vhci/d...@g5000cca35de9c580 5. c5t5000CCA35DEA1ED5d0 ATA-Hitachi HDS7210-A3EA cyl 60797 alt 2 hd 255 sec 126 /scsi_vhci/d...@g5000cca35dea1ed5 6. c5t5000CCA00510A7CCd0 HITACHI-HUS1514SBSUN146-SA02 cyl 17826 alt 2 hd 255 sec 63 /scsi_vhci/d...@g5000cca00510a7cc 7. c5t50024E90037AF38Cd0 ATA-SAMSUNG HD103SJ-0001 cyl 60797 alt 2 hd 255 sec 126 /scsi_vhci/d...@g50024e90037af38c 8. c5t50024E90037AF390d0 ATA-SAMSUNG HD103SJ-0001 cyl 60797 alt 2 hd 255 sec 126 /scsi_vhci/d...@g50024e90037af390 9. c6t0d0 drive type unknown /p...@0,0/pci108e,6...@2,1/h...@6/h...@1/stor...@1/d...@0,0 10. c6t0d1 drive type unknown /p...@0,0/pci108e,6...@2,1/h...@6/h...@1/stor...@1/d...@0,1 It's mostly the cylinder numbers that you need to watch out for. If you have devices with the same claimed manufacturer size but different geometry, I'd create a slice of the maximum size on the smaller disk, then create a slice with the same number of cylinders on the larger disk, and then mirror those two slices. Thanks... very helpful. I noticed though that once a disk is formatted or put into a zpool the cyl no. is no longer given, but then the size is shown I did also find a diffeent answer too. `iostat -En ' Appears to give both the names and the sizes. But not sure it would still be useful in the case you describe. ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
[OpenIndiana-discuss] When adding a mirror disk to rpool
I'm about to create a mirror to rpool that currently is a single disk. I remember it being somewhat more involved than any other pool for adding a mirror. Involving the boot bits and running grub... maybe other stuff as well. I wondered if anyone has a URL where I might read about the procedure, or failing that can anyone provide a general outline of steps that need to be taken. ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] find size of raw disks
On 22 Nov 2010, at 04:14, Harry Putnam wrote: McBofh james.c.mcpher...@gmail.com writes: It's mostly the cylinder numbers that you need to watch out for. If you have devices with the same claimed manufacturer size but different geometry, I'd create a slice of the maximum size on the smaller disk, then create a slice with the same number of cylinders on the larger disk, and then mirror those two slices. Thanks... very helpful. I noticed though that once a disk is formatted or put into a zpool the cyl no. is no longer given, but then the size is shown Once they've got EFI labels, that's the format (sic) you get IIRC. Does prtvtoc help? I thought ZFS was nowadays able to copy with mirroring identical disks which differed by a number of blocks. Cheers, Chris ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
