Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Can anyone recommend an external SATA card?

2011-01-21 Thread trevor robinson

  If it's helpful we use (or did anyway, since an advantage of ZFS is avoiding 
using proprietary RAID cards !) Areca, we have a test machine running OI_148 
using an Areca ARC1200 (PCIe x1).

Trev

--- On Thu, 1/20/11, Robin Axelsson gu99r...@student.chalmers.se wrote:

From: Robin Axelsson gu99r...@student.chalmers.se
Subject: Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Can anyone recommend an external SATA card?
To: openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org
Date: Thursday, January 20, 2011, 11:50 PM

When it comes to Marvells chips it some of them work on OSOL/OI and some 
of them don't. Look into the OpenSolaris HCL, if it 
signed/certified/native than it's fine but if it merely says reported 
to work I would be careful about it. I would not recommend anyone using 
JMicron controller chips as I have had tons of problems with them on 
several different motherboards. There are drivers for them in OSOL/OI 
but they are nothing but trouble.


On 2011-01-20 23:09, Michelle Knight wrote:
 Hi Willard,

 Thank you for those links. I've had a look through and it is interesting that
 the cheaper cards are Marvell, though based on .

 The card I've got problems with is based on the Marvell 9128 chipset.

 Do you think I could run in to trouble?

 Michelle.

 On Thursday 20 January 2011 21:36:50 Willard Korfhage wrote:
 Here are some references to good cards:

   From 16 to 2 ports: Ideal SATA/SAS Controllers for ZFS  Linux MD RAID
 http://blog.zorinaq.com/?e=10

 Some discussion that followed the blog posting
 http://opensolaris.org/jive/thread.jspa?messageID=480925

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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Can anyone recommend an external SATA card?

2011-01-21 Thread Robin Axelsson
The Areca cards are probably quite nice. They provide their own drivers 
for their cards and they support Solaris. It looks like their cards are 
based on Intel's IOP chipsets but it isn't revealed explicitly on their 
website. The only objection I have against their cards is the price. On 
for example Newegg, an Areca 1200 card goes for $160 and it gives you 
two SATA ports. An intel SASUC8I goes for $155 on Newegg providing 8 ports.


I also want to add to clarify; There was someone on this mailing lists 
who mentioned JBOD which is _not_ what you want to use if you intend to 
run ZFS on it. The preferred mode is IT mode which on LSI's controllers 
is done by flashing them with IT firmware. IT means Initiator-Target. 
The disks should be run either as RAID0 with one disk per stripe or as 
Single Disk, (different vendors have different names for the same 
thing), not JBOD which is a different thing.


On 2011-01-21 11:36, trevor robinson wrote:

   If it's helpful we use (or did anyway, since an advantage of ZFS is avoiding 
using proprietary RAID cards !) Areca, we have a test machine running OI_148 
using an Areca ARC1200 (PCIe x1).

Trev

--- On Thu, 1/20/11, Robin Axelssongu99r...@student.chalmers.se  wrote:

From: Robin Axelssongu99r...@student.chalmers.se
Subject: Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Can anyone recommend an external SATA card?
To: openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org
Date: Thursday, January 20, 2011, 11:50 PM

When it comes to Marvells chips it some of them work on OSOL/OI and some
of them don't. Look into the OpenSolaris HCL, if it
signed/certified/native than it's fine but if it merely says reported
to work I would be careful about it. I would not recommend anyone using
JMicron controller chips as I have had tons of problems with them on
several different motherboards. There are drivers for them in OSOL/OI
but they are nothing but trouble.


On 2011-01-20 23:09, Michelle Knight wrote:

Hi Willard,

Thank you for those links. I've had a look through and it is interesting that
the cheaper cards are Marvell, though based on .

The card I've got problems with is based on the Marvell 9128 chipset.

Do you think I could run in to trouble?

Michelle.

On Thursday 20 January 2011 21:36:50 Willard Korfhage wrote:

Here are some references to good cards:

From 16 to 2 ports: Ideal SATA/SAS Controllers for ZFS   Linux MD RAID
http://blog.zorinaq.com/?e=10

Some discussion that followed the blog posting
http://opensolaris.org/jive/thread.jspa?messageID=480925

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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] OI/Illumos HCL

2011-01-21 Thread Dave Koelmeyer



I know it's early days, but what's the possibility of getting an HCL (Hardware
Compatibility List) page setup on the OI website? This would give community
members a chance to provide information on what works and what does not, and
perhaps share experiences on how to fix/tune certain components specific to that
hardware.

With Openindianna moving away from the original Opensolaris code base sooner or
later the original HCL will start to become out of date. While I don't expect OI
to maintain a list of 'certified hardware' (yet) if the distribution is going to
penetrate production environments such a site would prove useful, rather than
the suck it and see approach at the moment. Might also take some of the load off
the bug submission etc.

For information, Opensolaris has been removed from the main Sun/Oracle HCLpage
(http://www.sun.com/bigadmin/hcl/) but is still accessiblehere
(http://www.sun.com/bigadmin/hcl/data/os/).


Anybody wanting to take Matthew's suggestion and run with it? I don't 
know how to make this happen, perhaps a section on the Wiki or 
something, but given recent discussion over storage adaptors etc this 
would be a very useful resource.


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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] OI/Illumos HCL

2011-01-21 Thread Matthew Wilby
If there is interest in creating an HCL, I will get something setup on the wiki 
and maintain it.

It will however rely on community contribution. As a project we don't have the 
resources yet to test every possible bit of kit out there.

For the time being please feel free to email me and I'll add it to the list. 
Something along the lines of.

Vendor
Model
Works?
Notes/special instructions etc 

Thanks,

Matt


On 21 Jan 2011, at 11:53, Dave Koelmeyer davekoelme...@me.com wrote:

 
 I know it's early days, but what's the possibility of getting an HCL 
 (Hardware
 Compatibility List) page setup on the OI website? This would give community
 members a chance to provide information on what works and what does not, and
 perhaps share experiences on how to fix/tune certain components specific to 
 that
 hardware.
 
 With Openindianna moving away from the original Opensolaris code base 
 sooner or
 later the original HCL will start to become out of date. While I don't 
 expect OI
 to maintain a list of 'certified hardware' (yet) if the distribution is 
 going to
 penetrate production environments such a site would prove useful, rather 
 than
 the suck it and see approach at the moment. Might also take some of the 
 load off
 the bug submission etc.
 
 For information, Opensolaris has been removed from the main Sun/Oracle 
 HCLpage
 (http://www.sun.com/bigadmin/hcl/) but is still accessiblehere
 (http://www.sun.com/bigadmin/hcl/data/os/).
 
 Anybody wanting to take Matthew's suggestion and run with it? I don't know 
 how to make this happen, perhaps a section on the Wiki or something, but 
 given recent discussion over storage adaptors etc this would be a very useful 
 resource.
 
 -- 
 Dave Koelmeyer
 http://davekoelmeyer.wordpress.com/
 
 
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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] OI/Illumos HCL

2011-01-21 Thread Michael Schuster
On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 13:28, jay undernet jay@gmail.com wrote:
 Good idea.

+1

 we can add the build number of OI, categories and updates.

please make sure it has good search capabilities!

cheers
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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] OI/Illumos HCL

2011-01-21 Thread Matt Wilby
On 21/01/2011 13:48, Michael Schuster wrote:
 On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 13:28, jay undernet jay@gmail.com wrote:
 Good idea.
 +1

 we can add the build number of OI, categories and updates.
 please make sure it has good search capabilities!

 cheers
 Michael

I've created some pages on the Wiki which will provide a starting point
to record community hardware testing contributions. I'll start to create
some tables within each category over the next week or so.

Ken Mays is also doing some testing on Dell hardware. 

At the moment it's just on the Wiki. Over time we will no doubt have to
look at putting this into a database of some sorts. But we have to start
somewhere.

Just to stress, this will be based on information and feedback received
from the community. It's not a definitive guarantee or statement from
the project. Your mileage may vary. :-)
 
Cheers,

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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] OI/Illumos HCL

2011-01-21 Thread Daniel Kjar
 Wouldn't it be easier to start with a simple html form and your 
favorite database backend?


dumping everything out of a wiki into a more useful format will be  a pain.

On 01/21/11 09:09 AM, Matt Wilby wrote:

On 21/01/2011 13:48, Michael Schuster wrote:

On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 13:28, jay undernetjay@gmail.com  wrote:

Good idea.

+1


we can add the build number of OI, categories and updates.

please make sure it has good search capabilities!

cheers
Michael

I've created some pages on the Wiki which will provide a starting point
to record community hardware testing contributions. I'll start to create
some tables within each category over the next week or so.

Ken Mays is also doing some testing on Dell hardware.

At the moment it's just on the Wiki. Over time we will no doubt have to
look at putting this into a database of some sorts. But we have to start
somewhere.

Just to stress, this will be based on information and feedback received
from the community. It's not a definitive guarantee or statement from
the project. Your mileage may vary. :-)

Cheers,

Matt


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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Can anyone recommend an external SATA card?

2011-01-21 Thread Attila Fülöp
Michelle,

I would recommend a Sil 3132 or 3124 based card. Works like a charm for me.
It even supports a Sil based 1 - 5 port multiplier.

HTH

Attila



Michelle Knight wrote:
 Hi Folks,
 
 I've been driving myself crazy looking at SATA cards for the last few days.
 
 What I need is the following...
 
 1) Compatable with OI  (I'm really tripping myself up here
 2) Lowest price possible
 3) PCI-E
 4) Ports needed - 2 E-SATA Version 3.
 
 Any recommendations please?
 
 Many thanks,
 
 Michelle.
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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] OI/Illumos HCL

2011-01-21 Thread Rocky Shek
Matt,

We have done lot of test on Intel Server  various JBOD storage in our lab.
We can also contribute to this list   

Rocky


-Original Message-
From: Matthew Wilby [mailto:matthewwi...@btinternet.com] 
Sent: Friday, January 21, 2011 4:18 AM
To: Discussion list for OpenIndiana
Subject: Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] OI/Illumos HCL

If there is interest in creating an HCL, I will get something setup on the
wiki and maintain it.

It will however rely on community contribution. As a project we don't have
the resources yet to test every possible bit of kit out there.

For the time being please feel free to email me and I'll add it to the list.
Something along the lines of.

Vendor
Model
Works?
Notes/special instructions etc 

Thanks,

Matt


On 21 Jan 2011, at 11:53, Dave Koelmeyer davekoelme...@me.com wrote:

 
 I know it's early days, but what's the possibility of getting an HCL
(Hardware
 Compatibility List) page setup on the OI website? This would give
community
 members a chance to provide information on what works and what does not,
and
 perhaps share experiences on how to fix/tune certain components specific
to that
 hardware.
 
 With Openindianna moving away from the original Opensolaris code base
sooner or
 later the original HCL will start to become out of date. While I don't
expect OI
 to maintain a list of 'certified hardware' (yet) if the distribution is
going to
 penetrate production environments such a site would prove useful, rather
than
 the suck it and see approach at the moment. Might also take some of the
load off
 the bug submission etc.
 
 For information, Opensolaris has been removed from the main Sun/Oracle
HCLpage
 (http://www.sun.com/bigadmin/hcl/) but is still accessiblehere
 (http://www.sun.com/bigadmin/hcl/data/os/).
 
 Anybody wanting to take Matthew's suggestion and run with it? I don't know
how to make this happen, perhaps a section on the Wiki or something, but
given recent discussion over storage adaptors etc this would be a very
useful resource.
 
 -- 
 Dave Koelmeyer
 http://davekoelmeyer.wordpress.com/
 
 
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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] svc and services

2011-01-21 Thread Bernd Helber
Hi Ann ;)



The Service Management Facilty works a little bit different to the
Legacy Init System

In Case you have different Properties and groups


svc:Service type
/system/system-log  Name
:default Instance

you will find your repository

at
bernd@kobold:/home/bernd$ ls /etc/svc
repository.db

its a sqlite based Database




The repository is the source for all known services on the system,
it imports the service manifest into the database and then never
references the manifest again.

The SMF Manifests are XML Scripts
with following content

Name of service
Number of instances
Start, stop and refresh methods
Property groups
Service model
Fault handling
Documentation template

 milestones are predefined sets of capabilities for a few set of
services, comparable  to  legacy run levels


If you want to know more about the services you could ask the Service
Management Facility about a detailled Description...

At example..


svcs -H -o FMRI,STATE,NSTATE,STIME,DESC -SSTATE svc:/*
svc:/application/management/common-agent-container-1:default
uninitialized  - 10:37:29 -
svc:/system/cluster/cznetd:default maintenance-
10:38:40 Sun Cluster virtual cluster network daemon
svc:/system/cluster/cl-svc-cluster-milestone:default offline-
  10:38:40 Synchronizing the cluster userland services
svc:/system/boot-archive:default   online -
10:37:28 check boot archive content
svc:/system/device/local:default   online -
10:37:41 Standard Solaris device configuration.
svc:/milestone/devices:default online -
10:37:46 device configuration milestone
svc:/system/identity:domainonline -
10:37:42 system identity (domainname)
svc:/system/identity:node  online -
10:37:21 system identity (nodename)
svc:/system/filesystem/local:default   online -
10:38:00 local file system mounts
svc:/system/manifest-import:defaultonline -
10:37:45 service manifest import
svc:/system/filesystem/minimal:defa
--


If you would like to look on your legacy Services ==



lrc:/etc/rc2_d/S20sysetup  legacy_run -
10:38:25 -
lrc:/etc/rc2_d/S47pppd legacy_run -
10:38:25 -
lrc:/etc/rc2_d/S72autoinstall  legacy_run -
10:38:25 -
lrc:/etc/rc2_d/S72sc_update_hosts  legacy_run -
10:38:25 -
lrc:/etc/rc2_d/S72sc_update_ntplegacy_run -
10:38:25 -
lrc:/etc/rc2_d/S73cachefs_daemon   legacy_run -
10:38:25 -
lrc:/etc/rc2_d/S74xntpd_clusterlegacy_run -
10:38:25 -
lrc:/etc/rc2_d/S77scpostconfig legacy_run -
10:38:26 -
lrc:/etc/rc2_d/S81dodatadm_udaplt  legacy_run -
10:38:26 -
lrc:/etc/rc2_d/S89PRESERVE legacy_run -
10:38:26 -
lrc:/etc/rc2_d/S95SUNWmd_binddevs  legacy_run -
10:38:27 -
lrc:/etc/rc2_d/S98deallocate   legacy_run -
10:38:27 -
lrc:/etc/rc


If you would check your milestones. ;)



svcs -H -o FMRI,STATE,NSTATE,STIME,DESC -SSTATE svc:/milestone/*

 -
svc:/milestone/devices:default online -
10:37:46 device configuration milestone
svc:/milestone/multi-user:default  online -
10:38:27 multi-user milestone
svc:/milestone/name-services:default   online -
10:37:59 name services milestone
svc:/milestone/single-user:default online -
10:37:58 single-user milestone
svc:/milestone/multi-user-server:default   online -
10:38:34 multi-user plus exports milestone
svc:/milestone/network:default online -
10:37:45 Network milestone
svc:/milestone/sysconfig:default   online -
10:38:05 Basic system configuration milestone
---



If you want to check on service/daemon

in this example you see the IPSec Daemon..

svcs -H -oDESC svc:/network/ipsec/ike:default ; svcs -H -oSTATE
svc:/network/ipsec/ike:default ; svcs -H -oFMRI,STATE -D
svc:/network/ipsec/ike:default ; svcs -l svc:/milestone/network:default ;

IKE daemon
disabled
svc:/milestone/network:default online
fmri svc:/milestone/network:default
name Network milestone
enabled  true
stateonline
next_state   none
state_time   21 January 2011 10:37:45 CET
logfile  

[OpenIndiana-discuss] Driver security?

2011-01-21 Thread Lou Picciano

Oi Gang, 


An interesting article below. Are we at all exposed re our USB or NDIS drivers? 

http://www.fiercecio.com/techwatch/story/no-let-security-front-2011/2011-01-21 


Snippet: 


Over in China, researchers from Microsoft ( NASDAQ: MSFT ) have sounded the 
warning on new malware that intercepts and inspects network traffic in order to 
stymie the operation of cloud-based antivirus tools . While disabling the 
operation of antivirus applications is hardly new, the use of an NDIS driver in 
this case to monitor and modify data packets at the network level is 
surprisingly sophisticated. 

Read more: No let up on the security front in 2011 - FierceCIO:TechWatch 
http://www.fiercecio.com/techwatch/story/no-let-security-front-2011/2011-01-21#ixzz1BhZjoebp
 
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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] OI/Illumos HCL

2011-01-21 Thread Matt Wilby
On 21/01/2011 17:54, Rocky Shek wrote:
 Matt,

 We have done lot of test on Intel Server  various JBOD storage in our lab.
 We can also contribute to this list   

 Rocky


 -Original Message-
 From: Matthew Wilby [mailto:matthewwi...@btinternet.com] 
 Sent: Friday, January 21, 2011 4:18 AM
 To: Discussion list for OpenIndiana
 Subject: Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] OI/Illumos HCL

 If there is interest in creating an HCL, I will get something setup on the
 wiki and maintain it.

 It will however rely on community contribution. As a project we don't have
 the resources yet to test every possible bit of kit out there.

 For the time being please feel free to email me and I'll add it to the list.
 Something along the lines of.

 Vendor
 Model
 Works?
 Notes/special instructions etc 

 Thanks,

 Matt


 On 21 Jan 2011, at 11:53, Dave Koelmeyer davekoelme...@me.com wrote:

 I know it's early days, but what's the possibility of getting an HCL
 (Hardware
 Compatibility List) page setup on the OI website? This would give
 community
 members a chance to provide information on what works and what does not,
 and
 perhaps share experiences on how to fix/tune certain components specific
 to that
 hardware.

 With Openindianna moving away from the original Opensolaris code base
 sooner or
 later the original HCL will start to become out of date. While I don't
 expect OI
 to maintain a list of 'certified hardware' (yet) if the distribution is
 going to
 penetrate production environments such a site would prove useful, rather
 than
 the suck it and see approach at the moment. Might also take some of the
 load off
 the bug submission etc.

 For information, Opensolaris has been removed from the main Sun/Oracle
 HCLpage
 (http://www.sun.com/bigadmin/hcl/) but is still accessiblehere
 (http://www.sun.com/bigadmin/hcl/data/os/).
 Anybody wanting to take Matthew's suggestion and run with it? I don't know
 how to make this happen, perhaps a section on the Wiki or something, but
 given recent discussion over storage adaptors etc this would be a very
 useful resource.
 -- 
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 http://davekoelmeyer.wordpress.com/


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Hi Rocky,

Sure no problem. Ping me a list of hardware and I'll add it for you.

Thanks,

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