Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] [lame q] point to documentation for rescue type boot
Oscar del Rio writes: >> I'm not sure what all I've done but the main thing is that I disabled >> gdm. I did it on purpose and have done that in the past on other oi >> and os before that to make bootup go to a console instead of the gui. > > press Esc key to get the login prompt. > Then remove the graphics options from the grub boot menu to get rid of > the splash screen. Thanks. Egad... I discovered that shortly after posting. Doing an has the same effect of bringing up the login prompt. It just appears to be hung up. I guess the fact that no login prompt appears without taking some kind of action should be seen as a bug ... right? ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Solaris 11 is out - so?
Alan Coopersmith writes: > On 11/10/11 23:00, Gabriele Bulfon wrote: >> Oracle announced availabilty of Solaris 11. >> Do you notice any real news in the O.S. that OI/IllumOS has not? > > http://blogs.oracle.com/darren/entry/completely_disabling_root_logins_on It appears to no longer even be possible to circumvent the suggested usage of root account and allow root logins. Anyone know for sure if it is still possible to enforce an old fashioned root account with regular login access? If so how might it be done? On oi its no harder than `rolemod -K type=normal root' and then allow root login in /etc/ssh/sshd_config. That does not work on sol11. Even editing /etc/ssh/sshd_config, there appears to be some extra editing needed on involving pam. ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Solaris 11 is out - so?
> From: Gabriele Bulfon [mailto:gbul...@sonicle.com] > > Oracle announced availabilty of Solaris 11. > Do you notice any real news in the O.S. that OI/IllumOS has not? How about a zpool version higher than 28? AKA, all the stuff that's now in closed source development. Not in OI/Illumos. > What is the status of the promised sources? Sources were never promised. We all want them, but I never believed they were going to release them. Did you ever listen to Larry talk about open source? There's this one in particular, where he says something like "We used to spend tons of money developing our own http server, and then apache came along, so we were able to fire all those people and use apache for free, and sell it even though the customers could get it for free." He was so proud. And I'm sure he's not willing to be on the other side of the equation - allowing companies like apple, nexenta, etc, to make money off the open source he pays to develop. Don't count on seeing any open source, IMHO. ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Solaris 11 is out - so?
On Fri, Nov 11, 2011 at 08:47:56AM -0500, Edward Ned Harvey wrote: > > From: Gabriele Bulfon [mailto:gbul...@sonicle.com] > > > > Oracle announced availabilty of Solaris 11. > > Do you notice any real news in the O.S. that OI/IllumOS has not? > > > What is the status of the promised sources? > > Sources were never promised. We all want them, but I never believed they > were going to release them. Is there a legal requirement to release source built in to CDDL? If not, we are unlikely to see it. -- -Gary Mills--refurb--Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada- ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Solaris 11 is out - so?
they own the code and therefore can do whatever they want with it On Fri, Nov 11, 2011 at 11:30 AM, Gary Mills wrote: > On Fri, Nov 11, 2011 at 08:47:56AM -0500, Edward Ned Harvey wrote: >> > From: Gabriele Bulfon [mailto:gbul...@sonicle.com] >> > >> > Oracle announced availabilty of Solaris 11. >> > Do you notice any real news in the O.S. that OI/IllumOS has not? >> >> > What is the status of the promised sources? >> >> Sources were never promised. We all want them, but I never believed they >> were going to release them. > > Is there a legal requirement to release source built in to CDDL? > If not, we are unlikely to see it. > > -- > -Gary Mills- -refurb- -Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada- > > ___ > OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list > OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org > http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss > ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Solaris 11 is out - so?
Gary Mills wrote: > On Fri, Nov 11, 2011 at 08:47:56AM -0500, Edward Ned Harvey wrote: >>> From: Gabriele Bulfon [mailto:gbul...@sonicle.com] >>> >>> Oracle announced availabilty of Solaris 11. >>> Do you notice any real news in the O.S. that OI/IllumOS has not? >>> What is the status of the promised sources? >> Sources were never promised. We all want them, but I never believed they >> were going to release them. > > Is there a legal requirement to release source built in to CDDL? > If not, we are unlikely to see it. They're the legal owners of the code, so it frankly does not matter what the CDDL says. The property owner can set or change any terms at any time, and is not bound by previous terms. But sources were indeed promised at some unspecified date after the binary release. Hope they carry through. http://mail.opensolaris.org/pipermail/opensolaris-discuss/2010-August/059310.html -- James Carlson 42.703N 71.076W ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Solaris 11 is out - so?
On 11/11/11 06:48, James Carlson wrote: Gary Mills wrote: On Fri, Nov 11, 2011 at 08:47:56AM -0500, Edward Ned Harvey wrote: From: Gabriele Bulfon [mailto:gbul...@sonicle.com] Oracle announced availabilty of Solaris 11. Do you notice any real news in the O.S. that OI/IllumOS has not? What is the status of the promised sources? Sources were never promised. We all want them, but I never believed they were going to release them. Is there a legal requirement to release source built in to CDDL? If not, we are unlikely to see it. They're the legal owners of the code, so it frankly does not matter what the CDDL says. The property owner can set or change any terms at any time, and is not bound by previous terms. But sources were indeed promised at some unspecified date after the binary release. Hope they carry through. http://mail.opensolaris.org/pipermail/opensolaris-discuss/2010-August/059310.html Some solaris 11 code were published and it appears some of the files are CDDL licensed . I guess this is the only CDDL source will get. well, maybe for now. http://oss.oracle.com/systems-opensourcecode/#oracle-solaris ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] is the newly released orac-sol 11 an advance compared to oi?
Has the code for Solaris 11 been released as was once the plan? If so, I suppose that features can always get moved over into OI (and from there into FreeBSD, etc). If Solaris is now closed-source for good, then all bets are off, though. Mike ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] is the newly released orac-sol 11 an advance compared to oi?
The duty to maximize profits for investors is clear. The duty to keep what sounded rather like a promise, but perhaps was never actually _made_ to anyone but only appeared in an internal memo, well, I'm sure we'd all want to say that was just as _morally_ binding, but enforceable? You do the math. It might even be in long-term enlightened self-interest, but how often do quarterly reports win, and how oftenlong-term and less quantifiable considerations? I think that DTrace makes source all the more desirable, that customers and those that provide paid support might better speak the same language, leading to more satisfied customers and perhaps even less cost to supporting them. I think that expanded ecosystem probably offsets subsidizing the competition, esp. since such subsidies go both ways. There are those now who have worked with Solaris for many years as administrators and customer system analysts that argue that Linux will eventually crush all competition, regardless of technical superiority of Solaris. _Everything_ gets commoditized eventually; you can only choose whether to lead or whether to be left behind. In that environment, openness may do more than technical superiority to ensure survival. But _I_ think that one OS to rule them all is just as wrong, whether that OS is open or closed. Choose open and survive, please. What I wonder is who would be both receptive to such arguments (politely made), and influential to act on them. On Nov 11, 2011, at 10:11 AM, Michael Kerpan wrote: > Has the code for Solaris 11 been released as was once the plan? If so, > I suppose that features can always get moved over into OI (and from > there into FreeBSD, etc). If Solaris is now closed-source for good, > then all bets are off, though. > > Mike > > ___ > OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list > OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org > http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss > -- The waitress asked, "Do you want lemon or no lemon with that iced tea?" Naturally, I said "yes", and then burst out laughing, because there simply wasn't any other answer in Boolean logic. She didn't get it, but I got the lemon, which I wanted anyway. Later, I realized a quantum computer could have offered another answer: Schroedinger's Lemon! ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Solaris 11 is out - so?
It's a make it or break it moment. If Oracle holds to their promise to release the source especially for ZFS - good. If they will make ZFS closed from now on - do you think illumos can manage to pull it through on its own? Regards, Hillel. On Fri, Nov 11, 2011 at 9:48 AM, James Carlson wrote: > They're the legal owners of the code, so it frankly does not matter what > the CDDL says. The property owner can set or change any terms at any > time, and is not bound by previous terms. > > But sources were indeed promised at some unspecified date after the > binary release. Hope they carry through. > > > http://mail.opensolaris.org/pipermail/opensolaris-discuss/2010-August/059310.html > > -- > James Carlson 42.703N 71.076W > > ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Solaris 11 is out - so?
Edward Martinez wrote: > On 11/11/11 06:48, James Carlson wrote: >> But sources were indeed promised at some unspecified date after the >> binary release. Hope they carry through. >> >> http://mail.opensolaris.org/pipermail/opensolaris-discuss/2010-August/059310.html >> >> > Some solaris 11 code were published and it appears some of the > files are CDDL licensed . I guess this is the only CDDL source will > get. well, maybe for now. > >http://oss.oracle.com/systems-opensourcecode/#oracle-solaris I looked those files over carefully, and that appears to be just the "must be distributed" third-party stuff, such as GPL'd components, and few user-level example bits. That's not at all what was referenced in the link I provided above. -- James Carlson 42.703N 71.076W ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Solaris 11 is out - so?
On 11/11/11 06:30, Gary Mills wrote: Is there a legal requirement to release source built in to CDDL? Yes, if your only right to the sources are the CDDL, and not the fact that you own the copyrights, were assigned copyrights, or have a license allowing you to ship them under another license. There are some CDDL sources in the 3rd party source release that was posted, like Joerg Schilling's cdrtools. -- -Alan Coopersmith-alan.coopersm...@oracle.com Oracle Solaris Platform Engineering: X Window System ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Solaris 11 is out - so?
Hillel Lubman wrote: > It's a make it or break it moment. If Oracle holds to their promise to > release the source especially for ZFS - good. If they will make ZFS closed > from now on - do you think illumos can manage to pull it through on its own? Yes, but there are some interesting technical challenges. One is that the zpool and zfs version numbering space is flat, so unless the new on-disk (and in-stream) formats can be reverse-engineered, the compatibility story will be unusual, to say the least. -- James Carlson 42.703N 71.076W ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Solaris 11 is out - so?
On 11/11/11 05:15, Harry Putnam wrote: Alan Coopersmith writes: On 11/10/11 23:00, Gabriele Bulfon wrote: Oracle announced availabilty of Solaris 11. Do you notice any real news in the O.S. that OI/IllumOS has not? http://blogs.oracle.com/darren/entry/completely_disabling_root_logins_on It appears to no longer even be possible to circumvent the suggested usage of root account and allow root logins. Anyone know for sure if it is still possible to enforce an old fashioned root account with regular login access? If so how might it be done? On oi its no harder than `rolemod -K type=normal root' and then allow root login in /etc/ssh/sshd_config. That does not work on sol11. Even editing /etc/ssh/sshd_config, there appears to be some extra editing needed on involving pam. That's two different things there - one is allowing root to login as an account directly, the other is allowing login via ssh, which wasn't allowed by default in Solaris 9 or 10 with a normal root account either. In any case, I believe both of those should be possible, but troubleshooting what went wrong would be easier with details about which step failed. Can you login as root on console?Does ssh give some error message when you connect?Did you reset root's expired-by-default password first? -- -Alan Coopersmith-alan.coopersm...@oracle.com Oracle Solaris Platform Engineering: X Window System ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Solaris 11 is out - so?
On Nov 11, 2011, at 11:55 AM, James Carlson wrote: > Edward Martinez wrote: >> On 11/11/11 06:48, James Carlson wrote: >>> But sources were indeed promised at some unspecified date after the >>> binary release. Hope they carry through. >>> >>> http://mail.opensolaris.org/pipermail/opensolaris-discuss/2010-August/059310.html >>> >>> >> Some solaris 11 code were published and it appears some of the >> files are CDDL licensed . I guess this is the only CDDL source will >> get. well, maybe for now. >> >> http://oss.oracle.com/systems-opensourcecode/#oracle-solaris > > I looked those files over carefully, and that appears to be just the > "must be distributed" third-party stuff, such as GPL'd components, and > few user-level example bits. That's not at all what was referenced in > the link I provided above. Yes, I saw that too (although I didn't look as closely, just looked for kernel code). I saw a page for what I can play with soonest, how to quickly install as a VirtualBox guest. But the page it linked to http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/server-storage/solaris11/downloads/index.html did not appear to include a pre-installed VM among the downloads, although it was implied to be there. While I assume that means a regular install might work, it would be much quicker to check things out if the pre-installed VM (with suitable settings, so one needn't guess) was available. Once again, this suggests to me a disinterest in anything other than official channels, Fortune 100 clients, etc. Never mind that people working at large clients might want to familiarize themselves on their own time… ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
[OpenIndiana-discuss] Solaris 11 or OpenIndiana won't boot on my Acer laptop
I have an Acer AS3810T-6827 that has no internal DVD drive. I can boot and install Ubuntu from a USB-attached DVD drive, but this has never worked for any build of Opensolaris or OpenIndiana. I did file an Opensolaris bug report (CR 6919054) in 2010 for build 130. It was just closed by Oracle, marked `Not Reproducible'. I assume they didn't have the correct laptop to test with. I thought I'd try the just-released Solaris 11 live DVD to see if they had fixed something. This DVD and drive do boot another laptop. Using the text console, this was the result, after the banner: WARNING: iommu: Calculated AGAW (39) is outside valid limits [30,12] specified by Vt-d spec and magaw /* hung */ When I boot with `-v', it gets further: WARNING: iommu: Calculated AGAW (39) is outside valid limits [30,12] specified by Vt-d spec and magaw ... acpinex0 at root acpinex: cpu@1, cpudrv0 /fw/cpu@1: (cpudrv0) online pseudo-device: dld0 dld0 is /pseudo/dld@0 /* hung */ I believe that the problem is with USB driver, or perhaps higher up the driver chain. This is very difficult to confirm because USB is the only way to access this laptop, other than the keyboard and mouse. Is there anything more I can do? -- -Gary Mills--refurb--Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada- ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Solaris 11 or OpenIndiana won't boot on my Acer laptop
On Nov 11, 2011, at 10:30 AM, Gary Mills wrote: > I have an Acer AS3810T-6827 that has no internal DVD drive. I can > boot and install Ubuntu from a USB-attached DVD drive, but this has > never worked for any build of Opensolaris or OpenIndiana. I did file > an Opensolaris bug report (CR 6919054) in 2010 for build 130. It was > just closed by Oracle, marked `Not Reproducible'. I assume they > didn't have the correct laptop to test with. I thought I'd try the > just-released Solaris 11 live DVD to see if they had fixed something. > This DVD and drive do boot another laptop. > >8 snip 8<--- > I believe that the problem is with USB driver, or perhaps higher up > the driver chain. This is very difficult to confirm because USB is > the only way to access this laptop, other than the keyboard and mouse. > Is there anything more I can do? Can you install from USB flash drive? That's how I've typically done it when I didn't have CD/DVD drive on a machine. ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Solaris 11 or OpenIndiana won't boot on my Acer laptop
On Fri, Nov 11, 2011 at 10:48:01AM -0700, Gregory Youngblood wrote: > > On Nov 11, 2011, at 10:30 AM, Gary Mills wrote: > > > I have an Acer AS3810T-6827 that has no internal DVD drive. I can > > boot and install Ubuntu from a USB-attached DVD drive, but this has > > never worked for any build of Opensolaris or OpenIndiana. I did file > > an Opensolaris bug report (CR 6919054) in 2010 for build 130. It was > > just closed by Oracle, marked `Not Reproducible'. I assume they > > didn't have the correct laptop to test with. I thought I'd try the > > just-released Solaris 11 live DVD to see if they had fixed something. > > This DVD and drive do boot another laptop. > > >8 snip 8<--- > > > I believe that the problem is with USB driver, or perhaps higher up > > the driver chain. This is very difficult to confirm because USB is > > the only way to access this laptop, other than the keyboard and mouse. > > Is there anything more I can do? > > Can you install from USB flash drive? That's how I've typically done > it when I didn't have CD/DVD drive on a machine. Yes, but with the same result: it hangs early in the boot process. -- -Gary Mills--refurb--Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada- ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Solaris 11 or OpenIndiana won't boot on my Acer laptop
On 11/11/11 10:36, Gary Mills wrote: On Fri, Nov 11, 2011 at 10:48:01AM -0700, Gregory Youngblood wrote: On Nov 11, 2011, at 10:30 AM, Gary Mills wrote: I have an Acer AS3810T-6827 that has no internal DVD drive. I can boot and install Ubuntu from a USB-attached DVD drive, but this has never worked for any build of Opensolaris or OpenIndiana. I did file an Opensolaris bug report (CR 6919054) in 2010 for build 130. It was just closed by Oracle, marked `Not Reproducible'. I assume they didn't have the correct laptop to test with. I thought I'd try the just-released Solaris 11 live DVD to see if they had fixed something. This DVD and drive do boot another laptop. >8 snip 8<--- I believe that the problem is with USB driver, or perhaps higher up the driver chain. This is very difficult to confirm because USB is the only way to access this laptop, other than the keyboard and mouse. Is there anything more I can do? Can you install from USB flash drive? That's how I've typically done it when I didn't have CD/DVD drive on a machine. Yes, but with the same result: it hangs early in the boot process. I have a suggestion, if possible, remove the harddrive from laptop, find a connector if needed to connect the laptop's harddrive to a desktop system that has a dvd, install solaris 11, then reinstall the harddrive back into the laptop. ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Solaris 11 or OpenIndiana won't boot on my Acer laptop
> On 11/11/11 10:36, Gary Mills wrote: >> On Fri, Nov 11, 2011 at 10:48:01AM -0700, Gregory Youngblood wrote: >>> On Nov 11, 2011, at 10:30 AM, Gary Mills wrote: >>> I have an Acer AS3810T-6827 that has no internal DVD drive. I can boot and install Ubuntu from a USB-attached DVD drive, but this has never worked for any build of Opensolaris or OpenIndiana. I did file an Opensolaris bug report (CR 6919054) in 2010 for build 130. It was just closed by Oracle, marked `Not Reproducible'. I assume they didn't have the correct laptop to test with. I thought I'd try the just-released Solaris 11 live DVD to see if they had fixed something. This DVD and drive do boot another laptop. >>>>8 snip 8<--- >>> I believe that the problem is with USB driver, or perhaps higher up the driver chain. This is very difficult to confirm because USB is the only way to access this laptop, other than the keyboard and mouse. Is there anything more I can do? >>> Can you install from USB flash drive? That's how I've typically done >>> it when I didn't have CD/DVD drive on a machine. >> Yes, but with the same result: it hangs early in the boot process. >> > I have a suggestion, if possible, remove the harddrive from > laptop, find a connector if needed to connect the laptop's harddrive to > a desktop system that has a dvd, install solaris 11, > then reinstall the harddrive back into the laptop. > How about just stopping by the local electronic store and buying an external DVD writer? They are relatively cheap. I bought an ASUS model for about $35. Saves me the problem of dealing with installing from Flash drives. -- Fini D. ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Solaris 11 or OpenIndiana won't boot on my Acer laptop
On Nov 11, 2011, at 11:36 AM, Gary Mills wrote: > On Fri, Nov 11, 2011 at 10:48:01AM -0700, Gregory Youngblood wrote: >> >> On Nov 11, 2011, at 10:30 AM, Gary Mills wrote: >> >>> I have an Acer AS3810T-6827 that has no internal DVD drive. I can >>> boot and install Ubuntu from a USB-attached DVD drive, but this has >>> never worked for any build of Opensolaris or OpenIndiana. I did file >>> an Opensolaris bug report (CR 6919054) in 2010 for build 130. It was >>> just closed by Oracle, marked `Not Reproducible'. I assume they >>> didn't have the correct laptop to test with. I thought I'd try the >>> just-released Solaris 11 live DVD to see if they had fixed something. >>> This DVD and drive do boot another laptop. >> >> >8 snip 8<--- >> >>> I believe that the problem is with USB driver, or perhaps higher up >>> the driver chain. This is very difficult to confirm because USB is >>> the only way to access this laptop, other than the keyboard and mouse. >>> Is there anything more I can do? >> >> Can you install from USB flash drive? That's how I've typically done >> it when I didn't have CD/DVD drive on a machine. > > Yes, but with the same result: it hangs early in the boot process. I had that problem as well, but on a Lenovo S10-3t netbook with an Atom processor. It runs OI just fine (other than wifi problems, despite showing no errors with ddu) but won't boot Sol11. My Lenovo T61p (T7700 core 2 duo) on the other hand booted Soll11 from USB flash drive no problem. It's also my primary OI box. I didn't install Sol11 on there, just testing to make sure it would boot. ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
[OpenIndiana-discuss] restoring the root account - WAS:: Solaris 11 is out - so?
I am home today playing around with Solaris 11 on an old T1000, and (at least here locally), the `rolemod -K type=normal root' appears to be working fine for me. Hope this helps. Jerry On 11/11/11 07:15 AM, Harry Putnam wrote: > Anyone know for sure if it is still possible to enforce an old > fashioned root account with regular login access? If so how might it > be done? > > On oi its no harder than `rolemod -K type=normal root' and then allow > root login in /etc/ssh/sshd_config. > > That does not work on sol11. Even editing /etc/ssh/sshd_config, there > appears to be some extra editing needed on involving pam. > > > ___ > OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list > OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org > http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Solaris 11 or OpenIndiana won't boot on my Acer laptop
On 11/11/11 11:36, Gregory Youngblood wrote: I had that problem as well, but on a Lenovo S10-3t netbook with an Atom processor. It runs OI just fine (other than wifi problems, despite showing no errors with ddu) but won't boot Sol11. Solaris 11 only includes the 64-bit kernel, so if that's an older 32-bit Atom, it can't work. -- -Alan Coopersmith-alan.coopersm...@oracle.com Oracle Solaris Platform Engineering: X Window System ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Solaris 11 is out - so?
Alan Coopersmith writes: >> It appears to no longer even be possible to circumvent the suggested >> usage of root account and allow root logins. >> >> Anyone know for sure if it is still possible to enforce an old >> fashioned root account with regular login access? If so how might it >> be done? >> >> On oi its no harder than `rolemod -K type=normal root' and then allow >> root login in /etc/ssh/sshd_config. >> >> That does not work on sol11. Even editing /etc/ssh/sshd_config, there >> appears to be some extra editing needed on involving pam. > > That's two different things there - one is allowing root to login as an > account directly, the other is allowing login via ssh, which wasn't > allowed by default in Solaris 9 or 10 with a normal root account either. Yes, I knew that, yet still managed to confuse them together. After making both edits...I was not able to ssh to root, and from there got into the muddle. However I see now that the sole reason really stemmed from something about sol11 that really is different. sol11 will not let you chose your own passwd for root if it doesn't have either a number or special char in it. The login I normally use for root has upper and lower case letters and a nice random selection of them... but sol11 will not allow me to use that passwd. So I added an underscore and moved on. However, I have become so accustomed to logging in as root with my regular passwd, that the next day, when I got around to working on the root account edits, and it came time to enter a passwd with ssh to root, I entered my regular passwd .. when it was denied forgot that I had been forced to use an underscore and I took the reason for failure to be that I was not allowed to ssh to root even though I had edited sshd_config. So there is something that sol11 puts in the way... but it is neither of root user/role nor edit of sshd_config... so I'm really sorry for the line noise. ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] restoring the root account - WAS:: Solaris 11 is out - so?
Jerry Kemp writes: > I am home today playing around with Solaris 11 on an old T1000, and (at > least here locally), the `rolemod -K type=normal root' appears to be > working fine for me. > > Hope this helps. Thanks for the input... please see my response to Alan, but briefly put ... it was all pilot error. ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Solaris 11 is out - so?
On 11/11/11 15:56, Harry Putnam wrote: sol11 will not let you chose your own passwd for root if it doesn't have either a number or special char in it. Yes, passwd/PAM now enforces the password strength checks for root as it has always done for normal users. See passwd(1) & pam_authtok_check(5) for details. -- -Alan Coopersmith-alan.coopersm...@oracle.com Oracle Solaris Platform Engineering: X Window System ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Solaris 11 or OpenIndiana won't boot on my Acer laptop
On Fri, Nov 11, 2011 at 11:30:49AM -0600, Gary Mills wrote: > > When I boot with `-v', it gets further: > > WARNING: iommu: Calculated AGAW (39) is outside valid limits [30,12] > specified by Vt-d spec and magaw > ... > acpinex0 at root > acpinex: cpu@1, cpudrv0 > /fw/cpu@1: (cpudrv0) online > pseudo-device: dld0 > dld0 is /pseudo/dld@0 > /* hung */ > > I believe that the problem is with USB driver, or perhaps higher up > the driver chain. This is very difficult to confirm because USB is > the only way to access this laptop, other than the keyboard and mouse. > Is there anything more I can do? Is there a driver handoff someplace? It must boot first from the BIOS, but somewhere along the way it must switch to the kernel driver. That might be where the problem lies. -- -Gary Mills--refurb--Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada- ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Solaris 11 or OpenIndiana won't boot on my Acer laptop
On Fri, Nov 11, 2011 at 12:05:02PM -0800, Edward Martinez wrote: > On 11/11/11 10:36, Gary Mills wrote: > >On Fri, Nov 11, 2011 at 10:48:01AM -0700, Gregory Youngblood wrote: > >>On Nov 11, 2011, at 10:30 AM, Gary Mills wrote: > >> > >>>I have an Acer AS3810T-6827 that has no internal DVD drive. I can > >>>boot and install Ubuntu from a USB-attached DVD drive, but this has > >>>never worked for any build of Opensolaris or OpenIndiana. I did file > >>>an Opensolaris bug report (CR 6919054) in 2010 for build 130. It was > >>>just closed by Oracle, marked `Not Reproducible'. I assume they > >>>didn't have the correct laptop to test with. I thought I'd try the > >>>just-released Solaris 11 live DVD to see if they had fixed something. > >>>This DVD and drive do boot another laptop. > > > I have a suggestion, if possible, remove the harddrive from > laptop, find a connector if needed to connect the laptop's > harddrive to a desktop system that has a dvd, install solaris 11, > then reinstall the harddrive back into the laptop. Yes, but I want to find the cause of the problem. I doubt that that will help. -- -Gary Mills--refurb--Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada- ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Solaris 11 or OpenIndiana won't boot on my Acer laptop
On 11/11/11 09:30, Gary Mills wrote: > Using the text console, this was the result, after the banner: > > WARNING: iommu: Calculated AGAW (39) is outside valid limits [30,12] > specified by Vt-d spec and magaw > /* hung */ Just as a long shot: Are there any bios menu options to enable or disable virtualization features, and if you toggle them does it change behavior? - Bill ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
[OpenIndiana-discuss] nfs4 both server and client
Can someone point me to a full description of how to setup nfs4? Googling finds so much stuff, a lot of it is either dated or maybe for a different flavor of solaris. I don't know enough to know if the setup for nfs4 is generic to all flavors or what. But surely there must be documentation that is designed to take from zero to a working nfs4 setup. Just a few works about my setup and what I'm shooting for here: Scale: Very small... a single user on both ends. The setup is a home lan but for the most part only one user on both ends. I have taken care to ensure that user on both ends have the same numeric uid and gid. Openindian to be both server and client, Debian linux to be both server and client. oi will be exporting its zfs filesystems as a place to do project work with the advantages of zfs snapshots. and etc. oi will be mounting several directories from the debian machine that contain resources of various kinds. debian will be mounting the zfs file systems from oi debian will be exporting several directories of various resources to be mounted on oi. ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Solaris 11 or OpenIndiana won't boot on my Acer laptop
On Nov 11, 2011, at 2:08 PM, Alan Coopersmith wrote: > On 11/11/11 11:36, Gregory Youngblood wrote: >> I had that problem as well, but on a Lenovo S10-3t netbook with an Atom >> processor. It runs OI just fine (other than wifi problems, despite showing >> no errors with ddu) but won't boot Sol11. > > Solaris 11 only includes the 64-bit kernel, so if that's an older 32-bit Atom, > it can't work. Yeah, that's what I figured. I was primarily testing to make sure the USB flash drive would boot. It did - or at least it tried - so I knew it would probably work on the real machine later. :) ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
