Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Who Has Java 8 For 32-Bit Solaris?
On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 1:04 PM, j...@m5.chicago.il.us wrote: Friends and Colleagues, I'm trying to get a Java8 SDK for my 32-bit Intel-based computer on which I am running Solaris 11 (more precisely, Schillix). The download web page at http://oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/jdk8-downloads-2133151.html does not have a release for 32-bit Solaris. It has releases for 32-bit Linux and for 32-bit Windows, but, Oracle apparently believes that when Oracle stopped releasing Solaris for 32-bit computers, all of the existing 32-bit Solaris platforms magically vanished. So how do I get a Java8 SDK? Do I have to get the OpenJDK source and compile it? Please don't tell me that I have to do that (or maybe it's worse than that -- does OpenJDK even exist for Java8?). Yes, OpenJDK exists for Java 8. To get a 32-bit version you'll have to build it yourself or get your distro supplier to do so. I tried this myself (I ship the 64-bit version anyway) and there's a 32-bit target, so I tried that. It starts out looking fine, but there's a coredump late on so the build fails. -- -Peter Tribble http://www.petertribble.co.uk/ - http://ptribble.blogspot.com/ ___ openindiana-discuss mailing list openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] OpenSXCE/SPARC: It was a mistake to keep the site online.
Thanks Jonathan. You are absolutely right. Use your mailfilter! Can someone hating Martins posts please explain to me why they DO NOT USE THIS FILTER? It might be manhunting after all? 23 sep. 2014 schreef: I'm sorry to even be involved in this discussion ... My brother and his wife were removed from viewing and accessing the Church Facebook page in a nasty little spat. 2 people had a falling out, lets call them jack and jill, with jack saying something in the heat of the moment by email. jack was then immediately blocked from the Facebook page by jill. jill stated that it was for the good of the group that that person be eliminated. Someone else stood up for jack saying that it was in the heat of the moment and that if they both calmed down and talked to each other that everyone would see sense. jill then blocked them. Another person then blocked jill to stop her blocking people who disagreed with her. That person was then blocked by someone who felt that jill was possibly right. jill at this point had validation that she was right. Another person tried to side with jack, and then things got screwy. both teams found a person with the ability to block and started blocking people, _in_case_ they took sides. Overnight the church was in uproar, including people who never went on facebook, and some who didn't even know what it was. It fell to the vicar to pull jack and jill into an office and tell them the facts straight. everyone was given access again, and at the end of it, the only thing that was certain was that no one could trust any of the people who had blocked others to have the ability to block others in future. do what has been suggested, if you don't want to see emails from a person, and filter them. do stop adding to this discussion ... the one with the inflammatory subject from Martin. Please stop saying that a community is damaged because it either does, or doesn't block someone from it's list. Remember that all people are different we don't all think the same way ... if all great minds think alike then how do we create new ideas? There will always be disagreements, working out how to get through them is the important thing ... sometimes that means just letting things slide. Jon On 23 September 2014 16:05, G B via openindiana-discuss openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org wrote: Too much for an operating system technical discussion. How sad OI has devolved into this. Theo was removed from his commit privileges to NetBSD for being rude to other developers and users, yet OI won't remove someone from a mailing list for irrational behavior? On Tuesday, September 23, 2014 8:01 AM, Nikola M. minik...@gmail.com wrote: On 09/23/14 01:56 PM, Laurent Blume wrote: Obviously, you don't know Martin. I've refrained from intervening in those threads for what, more than one year now? Just because I also hoped it would stop. It hasn't. I think everyone refrained from answering actually. So what. I don't want THIS discussion to be stopped. I would have liked it stated that none will happen again. But it is okay, I'm not willing to hide behind anybody, I'll kick the one person I can kick out of this list. No-one would need to be put off the list for personal preferences. That is just wrong. I think we made a progress here, and if you think you should not see someone's posts, _use your freaking mail client filter_. Someone thinking of kicking people around should reconsider he's own behavior. That said, I think this manhunt should stop now. ___ openindiana-discuss mailing list openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss ___ openindiana-discuss mailing list openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss ___ openindiana-discuss mailing list openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss -- Verzonden van mijn Android telefoon met K-@ Mail. ___ openindiana-discuss mailing list openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
[OpenIndiana-discuss] Hopefully the end to the off-topic discussion
Hi All Sorry about a lot of discussion that's not related to OI on this list and us not doing anything about it. Multiple people asked us about blocking certain individual that's not following netiquette from posting to this list. This is now done. Cheers, Andrzej ___ openindiana-discuss mailing list openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Hopefully the end to the off-topic discussion
Hi Andrzej, On 2014-09-24 11:26, Andrzej Szeszo wrote: Hi All Multiple people asked us about blocking certain individual that's not following netiquette from posting to this list. So, you opt for sensorship. If readers are troubled by the content of a mail, *they* should set up a mail filter to drop those mails. And not delete that user from the mailing list. Look, I don't like the language in some mails either. I don't think it's a constructive discussion, but I choose to ignore them. And I also think they should take discussion off-list. My $0.02, kind regards, Edgar. ___ openindiana-discuss mailing list openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Hopefully the end to the off-topic discussion
On 09/24/14 11:26 AM, Andrzej Szeszo wrote: Hi All Sorry about a lot of discussion that's not related to OI on this list and us not doing anything about it. Multiple people asked us about blocking certain individual that's not following netiquette from posting to this list. This is now done. Cheers, Andrzej Please not any etiquette is broken. Talk on OpenSXCE was on topic. Anyone asking to block people on personal preferences is wrong. If someone wanting to block people on political preferences, one must explain whz he is doing that. Anyway, blocking people is gruesome display of distrust in public opinion expressing. If anyone want to block someone, he needt to explain: WHAT netiquette was broken, who and where wrote that netiquette for this list and if not descrubed somewhere, BEFORE using it to remove anyone on the list. It was attempt by me to pacify things with OpenSXCE, and not to let anyone use it's own discretion without consulting others. Andrzej please remove block you enforced before Netiquette is actually written for this list and before people actually decide about it, instead of you just acting by yourself. ___ openindiana-discuss mailing list openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Hopefully the end to the off-topic discussion
On 09/24/14 11:49 AM, Edgar (OI) wrote: Hi Andrzej, On 2014-09-24 11:26, Andrzej Szeszo wrote: Hi All Multiple people asked us about blocking certain individual that's not following netiquette from posting to this list. So, you opt for sensorship. If readers are troubled by the content of a mail, *they* should set up a mail filter to drop those mails. And not delete that user from the mailing list. +1 Look, I don't like the language in some mails either. I don't think it's a constructive discussion, but I choose to ignore them. And I also think they should take discussion off-list. My $0.02, kind regards, Edgar. This is personal vendetta toward OpenSXCE founder personal political opinions and that is obvious now. My critique was toward licensing in Opensolaris descendent distributions and was going in sort of positive way etc. (to be open source and exchange code) And it IS Ontopic. So people complain if persons using rest of messages to express something else about software. Well grow up. Use your mail filters, leave public lists alone ___ openindiana-discuss mailing list openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Hopefully the end to the off-topic discussion
You are absolutely right imho. Some people just REFUSE to use their mailfilter and that makes it kind of aa perssonal vendetta. Like THEY own this list. We have FREE SPEECH and if you don't like what you hear or read you can turn away, ignore it or filter it. But you DO NOT BAN the author(s). Nikola M. mailto:minik...@gmail.com woensdag 24 september 2014 12:14 On 09/24/14 11:49 AM, Edgar (OI) wrote: Hi Andrzej, On 2014-09-24 11:26, Andrzej Szeszo wrote: Hi All Multiple people asked us about blocking certain individual that's not following netiquette from posting to this list. So, you opt for sensorship. If readers are troubled by the content of a mail, *they* should set up a mail filter to drop those mails. And not delete that user from the mailing list. +1 Look, I don't like the language in some mails either. I don't think it's a constructive discussion, but I choose to ignore them. And I also think they should take discussion off-list. My $0.02, kind regards, Edgar. This is personal vendetta toward OpenSXCE founder personal political opinions and that is obvious now. My critique was toward licensing in Opensolaris descendent distributions and was going in sort of positive way etc. (to be open source and exchange code) And it IS Ontopic. So people complain if persons using rest of messages to express something else about software. Well grow up. Use your mail filters, leave public lists alone ___ openindiana-discuss mailing list openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss Edgar (OI) mailto:o...@edgar-matzinger.nl woensdag 24 september 2014 11:49 Hi Andrzej, So, you opt for sensorship. If readers are troubled by the content of a mail, *they* should set up a mail filter to drop those mails. And not delete that user from the mailing list. Look, I don't like the language in some mails either. I don't think it's a constructive discussion, but I choose to ignore them. And I also think they should take discussion off-list. My $0.02, kind regards, Edgar. ___ openindiana-discuss mailing list openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss Andrzej Szeszo mailto:asze...@gmail.com woensdag 24 september 2014 11:26 Hi All Sorry about a lot of discussion that's not related to OI on this list and us not doing anything about it. Multiple people asked us about blocking certain individual that's not following netiquette from posting to this list. This is now done. Cheers, Andrzej ___ openindiana-discuss mailing list openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss ___ openindiana-discuss mailing list openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] VNC connections to Hipster
On 13/09/2014 3:19 p.m., Dave Koelmeyer wrote: On 13/09/14 02:15, Alexander Pyhalov wrote: On 08/25/2014 23:14, Alexander Pyhalov wrote: Hi. Dave Koelmeyer писал 25.08.2014 12:18: Hi Folks, Before I go delving into why, has anyone else encountered issues with using Remmina (on Ubuntu) to connect over VNC to Hipster? On my old oi_151a8 box one simply enabled the VNC server in Gnome (/Preferences - Desktop Sharing/), pointed Remmina to it without any special sauce and it just worked. On my Hipster box (installed using the latest Hipster ISO and updated via the current Hipster repository), attempting the same spits out an error: /TLS handshake failed: A TLS packet with unexpected length was received/. Doesn't appear to be the client either, based on seeing the same thing irrespective of which Ubuntu box I connect from. Is anyone else seeing this? I see the same. However, I remember that after rebuilding vino 2 months ago this worked as expected... It seems to be a bug, but some debugging is necessary to find out what's wrong. Hello. I've tested VNC connection to current OI /hipster installation. This worked. It works for me in two ways. 1) If I enable svc:/application/x11/xvnc-inetd:default, I can connect to gdm login screen. 2) If I enable remote desktop access with Desktop sharing AND disable svc:/application/x11/xvnc-inetd:default I can connect to user session. Please, check how it works for you. Hi Alexander, Thanks very much for this, and apologies for not getting back to you/the list with more detail sooner (I have every intention, but just rather a lot on at the moment). I'll give this a try and see. Hi All, Bruce's suggestions indeed point to this being some interaction specifically with Remmina (v 0.9.99.1 on the clients in question). Using SSVNC on the same client (pulled down from USC on Ubuntu 14.04), or RealVNC Viewer 5.2.0 on a Windows client, I can connect to the same Hipster host as expected without any additional configuration. Disabling encryption in Remmina doesn't change the behaviour. So – not an insurmountable problem at all given alternate VNC clients, time permitting I'll do some further digging. Cheers, Dave -- Dave Koelmeyer http://blog.davekoelmeyer.co.nz ___ openindiana-discuss mailing list openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] [developer] 4174 - Removal of Sun DHCP server from gate
On 09/24/2014 21:27, Bart Coddens via illumos-developer wrote: What do you think guys ? Push for RTI ? Hello. As it in any case has stopped working at recent illumos builds and nobody volunteered to fix it I don't see reasons to keep it in its current state. I know that SRSS works with it, but it also can be configured with ISC DHCP server. -- Best regards, Alexander Pyhalov, system administrator of Southern Federal University IT department ___ openindiana-discuss mailing list openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] [developer] 4174 - Removal of Sun DHCP server from gate
On Wed, 24 Sep 2014, Alexander Pyhalov via illumos-developer wrote: On 09/24/2014 21:27, Bart Coddens via illumos-developer wrote: What do you think guys ? Push for RTI ? Hello. As it in any case has stopped working at recent illumos builds and nobody volunteered to fix it I don't see reasons to keep it in its current state. I know that SRSS works with it, but it also can be configured with ISC DHCP server. Is there an ISC DHCP server package included in the last OpenIndiana release (a8/a9 and not hipster)? OpenIndiana SFE no longer seems to be supported so if it was provided via OpenIndiana SFE then that can't be considered. I use Sun DHCP on a Solaris 10 system and lack of stable support for DHCP service in OpenIndiana (e.g. claims of not working and going poof) is cause for concern when one thinks about transitioning. Bob -- Bob Friesenhahn bfrie...@simple.dallas.tx.us, http://www.simplesystems.org/users/bfriesen/ GraphicsMagick Maintainer,http://www.GraphicsMagick.org/ ___ openindiana-discuss mailing list openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] [developer] 4174 - Removal of Sun DHCP server from gate
+1, although I'm biased. :-) I cannot be the RTI approver in any case. On Wed, Sep 24, 2014 at 10:39 AM, Alexander Pyhalov via illumos-developer develo...@lists.illumos.org wrote: On 09/24/2014 21:27, Bart Coddens via illumos-developer wrote: What do you think guys ? Push for RTI ? Hello. As it in any case has stopped working at recent illumos builds and nobody volunteered to fix it I don't see reasons to keep it in its current state. I know that SRSS works with it, but it also can be configured with ISC DHCP server. -- Best regards, Alexander Pyhalov, system administrator of Southern Federal University IT department --- illumos-developer Archives: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/182179/=now RSS Feed: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/182179/ 21239177-3604570e Modify Your Subscription: https://www.listbox.com/ member/?member_id=21239177id_secret=21239177-2d0c9337 Powered by Listbox: http://www.listbox.com ___ openindiana-discuss mailing list openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] [developer] 4174 - Removal of Sun DHCP server from gate
I did the port into oi-userland of ISC-DHCP but I haven't updated it for awhile. I've been using it successfully ever since Sun DCHP broke the first time. I've been playing with the IPV6 stuff in the hope of using DHCPv6 PD when connecting to my ISP, but I gave up and have been using an IPV4-IPV6 tunnel instead. On 09/24/2014 01:52 PM, Bob Friesenhahn wrote: On Wed, 24 Sep 2014, Alexander Pyhalov via illumos-developer wrote: On 09/24/2014 21:27, Bart Coddens via illumos-developer wrote: What do you think guys ? Push for RTI ? Hello. As it in any case has stopped working at recent illumos builds and nobody volunteered to fix it I don't see reasons to keep it in its current state. I know that SRSS works with it, but it also can be configured with ISC DHCP server. Is there an ISC DHCP server package included in the last OpenIndiana release (a8/a9 and not hipster)? OpenIndiana SFE no longer seems to be supported so if it was provided via OpenIndiana SFE then that can't be considered. I use Sun DHCP on a Solaris 10 system and lack of stable support for DHCP service in OpenIndiana (e.g. claims of not working and going poof) is cause for concern when one thinks about transitioning. Bob ___ openindiana-discuss mailing list openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] [developer] 4174 - Removal of Sun DHCP server from gate
Bob Friesenhahn писал 24.09.2014 21:52: On Wed, 24 Sep 2014, Alexander Pyhalov via illumos-developer wrote: On 09/24/2014 21:27, Bart Coddens via illumos-developer wrote: What do you think guys ? Push for RTI ? Hello. As it in any case has stopped working at recent illumos builds and nobody volunteered to fix it I don't see reasons to keep it in its current state. I know that SRSS works with it, but it also can be configured with ISC DHCP server. Is there an ISC DHCP server package included in the last OpenIndiana release (a8/a9 and not hipster)? OpenIndiana SFE no longer seems to be supported so if it was provided via OpenIndiana SFE then that can't be considered. I use Sun DHCP on a Solaris 10 system and lack of stable support for DHCP service in OpenIndiana (e.g. claims of not working and going poof) is cause for concern when one thinks about transitioning. Hello. There's no ISC dhcp in OI /dev a9. But it uses old illumos-gate and provides working Sun DHCP. Perhaps, breakage is related to transition from Studio to GCC compiler. AFAIK, SFE is supported, i.e., it's updated, but I think that http://pkg.openindiana.org/sfe/ repository is unsupported since Milan resignation. --- System Administrator of Southern Federal University Computer Center ___ openindiana-discuss mailing list openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] OpenSXCE/SPARC: It was a mistake to keep the site online.
On 09/22/14 09:59 PM, Laurent Blume wrote: I've yet to see anything about technology and not blatant politics or insults in that thread. What thread? You are inventing someting? This thread? As I understand this blatant thread started when you misinterpreted asking not to talk about world politics in general, with call for killing people's ability to post to this list if they do. And those are definitively 2 different things. One is positive and thoughtful, yours is just negative. So you got it wrong, it is your who just invented bashing people for posting. ___ openindiana-discuss mailing list openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
