Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] So is Solaris officially supported till 2034?

[Nikola M]

On 09/ 4/17 08:18 PM, Apostolos Syropoulos wrote:
My question was very simple and I got a simple answer. Now, Illumos is 
not Solaris.

It is a Solaris clone.


It is other way around if you ask me.
Opensolaris gave birth to illumos, from the same exact source code as 
Solaris Express and then S11 did that exactly the same, adding more code 
to same starting point (Opensolaris snv_134 onward).


So one is not the clone of another, but they are 'brothers by the mother 
line' if you want :P


All this I write not only for you and me, but for a wider auditorium 
looking for the clues or searching the web, just for the record :)



Personally, I prefer Illumos over Solaris but they are not the same
thing.  That Solaris is supported until 2034 does not mean that it 
will be able to run

on hardware that will be available then.


I would expect exactly that, to be able to run it on compatible but 
newer hardware, and at least on Oracle hardware,
but yes, you are right - over time new hardware requires new support, 
drivers etc.


There helps the thing, that same (even binary) drivers work for decades 
because Solaris driver model was established long time ago and doesn't 
need to change much. Even today most of drivers are shared between 
illumos and Oracle Solaris.
One taking some SPARC machine (like T5220) from 2006/7 and trying to run 
latest proprietary Solaris 11 would find that it is still supported and 
works just fine.
But yes, being 'supported' and 'working just fine' and 'working' are not 
same things.


For example on illumos, my old Dell D620 C2Duo laptop (T5600) seems to 
have problems with processes being using too much cpu time, starting 
somewhere between January and end of March (still running OI December 
BE, that is the last 'working just fine'). And my wireless card is 
'working' but I need to put "ath "03:08.0"
ath "pci168c,2055" in /etc/driver_aliases to have ath driver pick it up. 
(AR5007G 802.11bg)


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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] reboot after loading platform

[Dirk Willems]

Hello Ken,


Yes it's now running on ubuntu 16.04 without any problems i also thought 
it wouldn't be a problem because of the GeForce GTX 780 Ti witch I found 
in the HCL ?



Dirk


On 04-09-17 19:08, ken mays wrote:

Dirk,

Unless the Nvidia graphics card is defective, it will work with OI.
Does the motherboard/graphics card work properly with any other 
operating system installed?


Ken





On Sunday, September 3, 2017, 5:33:44 AM PDT, Dirk Willems 
 wrote:



Hello,


I tried to install OI on my desktop

- Manufacturer: Gigabyte Technology Co., Ltd. Product Name: EP45-UD3R

- Socket 775

- GeForce GTX 750 Ti

- OI-hipster-gui-20170502.usb


In the HCL I found

NVIDIA GeForce GTX 780 Ti


GA-EP45-UD3R => Works when "Enhanced Intel Speedstep Technology" (CPU
EIST Function) is disabled in BIOS. (Intel speedstep causes abnormally
high kernel CPU usage).



But after getting the bootlader and boot on to multi or single user and
loading the platform then I normally should get the gui I see the screen
changing in 1 light line and then it reboot :(


Any suggestion to try out or just not compatible with the Graphics  or
motherboard ?


Kind Regards,


Dirk


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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] So is Solaris officially supported till 2034?

[Apostolos Syropoulos via openindiana-discuss]

My question was very simple and I got a simple answer. Now, Illumos is not 
Solaris. It is a Solaris clone. Personally, I prefer Illumos over Solaris but 
they are not the same thing.  That Solaris is supported until 2034 does not 
mean that it will be able to runon hardware that will be available then. 
A.S.

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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] reboot after loading platform

[ken mays via openindiana-discuss]

Dirk,
Unless the Nvidia graphics card is defective, it will work with OI.Does the 
motherboard/graphics card work properly with any other operating system 
installed?
Ken



 

On Sunday, September 3, 2017, 5:33:44 AM PDT, Dirk Willems 
 wrote:  
 
 Hello,


I tried to install OI on my desktop

- Manufacturer: Gigabyte Technology Co., Ltd. Product Name: EP45-UD3R

- Socket 775

- GeForce GTX 750 Ti

- OI-hipster-gui-20170502.usb


In the HCL I found

NVIDIA GeForce GTX 780 Ti 


GA-EP45-UD3R => Works when "Enhanced Intel Speedstep Technology" (CPU 
EIST Function) is disabled in BIOS. (Intel speedstep causes abnormally 
high kernel CPU usage). 



But after getting the bootlader and boot on to multi or single user and 
loading the platform then I normally should get the gui I see the screen 
changing in 1 light line and then it reboot :(


Any suggestion to try out or just not compatible with the Graphics  or 
motherboard ?


Kind Regards,


Dirk


-- 
    Dirk Willems
System Engineer


+32 (0)3 443 12 38
dirk.will...@exitas.be 

Quality. Passion. Personality

www.exitas.be  | Veldkant 31 | 2550 Kontich

Illumos OmniOS Installation and Configuration Implementation Specialist.
Oracle Solaris 11 Installation and Configuration Certified 
Implementation Specialist.     

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[OpenIndiana-discuss] Has any tried to install the VirtualBox 5.2 beta 2 release?

[russell]

Hi,

Has anyone tried to run the VirtualBox 5.2 beta 2?

http://download.virtualbox.org/virtualbox/5.2.0_BETA2/

Regards

Russell


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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] So is Solaris officially supported till 2034?

[Nikola M]

Oracle Solaris "is not dead", as a supported product, at least,
Since it is officially supported up to year 2034.
https://blogs.oracle.com/solaris11life/long-live-solaris-11-until-at-least-2034-to-be-exact
http://www.oracle.com/us/support/library/lifetime-support-hardware-301321.pdf
I think there is not many systems running on easy to find hardware, with 
such a long support cycles and providing binary compatibility for the 
software while upgrading.


illumos is an Opensolaris continuation as Solaris 11 is. (and that is 
why it is still on-topic on Openindiana mailing list).
And illumos distributions are active, definitely open, alive and the 
future is open source, long past 2034. :)

https://wiki.illumos.org/display/illumos/Distributions

So efforts are best used under illumos distributions seeing the future, 
which is not a surprising conclusion seeing how much more benefits open 
source and free software give to individuals and organizations.
Interested parties looking to hire ex-Oracle Solaris related staff are 
welcome to do so and contribute to illumos distributions.
illumos CDDL license that also permits creating file-based combined 
work, also suggest to using illumos in company products, is welcomed 
practice.



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