from:"Евгений Парфенов"


Hmmm...redhat compared.
rhel is proprietary - fedora open source.
you can watch movie default to open to see how they solved problem of 
comparing poprietary and open source software.


26.12.2014 20:30, Nikola M. пишет:

On 12/26/14 12:05 PM, Dmitry Kozhinov wrote:

noone interested  in *making* stable OI release.


- admits OI developer. Oracle rubs his hands with a satisfied grin.
It's not relevant because one can not compare open source and free 
software with proprietary one.
Those are just 2 different worlds that live side by side. Surely in 
big picture open source is always winning.  Not to mention you can 
also help to projects you want.

And with closed source user can only cry, pay and cry more.


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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Chm viewer, xchm and Hipster


GUI for server?
I think better way is make easier administrating from command line.
Most of system administrator wont use GUI.
For example i'm not using GUI but i have some difficulties with 
administering from command lines (very hard to configure vlan, network 
interfaces and so on).


26.12.2014 20:40, Dmitry Kozhinov пишет:

We have no power to create stable distribution, either based on /dev
or /hipster. Period.


I hate to give an advice without contributing into development, but 
here it is.


IMHO the all-in-one product is too complicated. The best approach 
would be starting over from scratch (bare Illumos) and create a 
minimalistic distribution with basic GUI and basic GUI server admin 
tools (network management, package management, services start/stop, 
firewall management, etc.). Of course this is not a proposed roadmap 
for OI, this is an idea for a new project. Absolutely obvious idea, 
nothing new.


There is the Illumian distribution, which follows this approach. But 
it lacks GUI - the key component - and this is why it did not gain 
popularity (hope Garrett D'Amore reads this). Add basic GUI and GUI 
server admin tools - and I don't need OI anymore.


Happy holidays to everyone!
Dmitry.

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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Chm viewer, xchm and Hipster


Oh! I didnt thought that headless servers is a different topic.
The server is a server and there is no need to use gui for server 
because gui uses more resources than server have to.

But if this topic about desktop workstations then i mistaked. Sorry.

26.12.2014 21:24, Dmitry Kozhinov пишет:

For example i'm not using GUI but i have some difficulties with
administering from command lines (very hard to configure vlan, network
interfaces and so on).


Look, even experienced UNIX admin has difficulties with command line 
(not to offend anyone).
Force me to edit config files with vi instead of gedit, and I will go 
looking for a different job. I believe that new generation of system 
administrators cannot afford spending half of their lives learning 
that command line magic spells. This is why OI is popular, and 
Illumian is not. This is why Linux is popular (it would not if had no 
GUI at all). And this is why Oracle Solaris has GUI.


I understand that there are headless servers and datacenters, but this 
is different topic.



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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Chm viewer, xchm and Hipster

Короче судя по имени ты рубишь в русском языке.
Вообщем зачем ресурсы сервера растрачивать на графический интерфейс если
можно обойтись без него (на что unix-like системы и рассчитаны изначально)?

Надо просто упростить управление с терминала.
Я впервые юзаю openindiana и хотя у довольно уверенный админ centos и
freebsd (archlinux и ubuntu в качестве десктопа) но у меня возникают
трудности с администрированием с консоли в частности с настройкой vlan и
сетевых интерфейсов. Остальное думаю переживу.
А так конечно удивлен стабильностью его работы. Висит у меня на нем svn
на zfs. Проблема только с ntfs-3g.

26.12.2014 21:24, Dmitry Kozhinov пишет:

For example i'm not using GUI but i have some difficulties with
administering from command lines (very hard to configure vlan, network
interfaces and so on).

Look, even experienced UNIX admin has difficulties with command line
(not to offend anyone).
Force me to edit config files with vi instead of gedit, and I will go
looking for a different job. I believe that new generation of system
administrators cannot afford spending half of their lives learning
that command line magic spells. This is why OI is popular, and
Illumian is not. This is why Linux is popular (it would not if had no
GUI at all). And this is why Oracle Solaris has GUI.

I understand that there are headless servers and datacenters, but this
is different topic.

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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Chm viewer, xchm and Hipster

And i think admin have to balance between human resources and machine 
resources.

If IT have not economic effective than why they need company?
Im trying to say that if operating system will be more usable 
(effectivly from command line) than more IT specialist will use this 
operationg system.

And question is not about how many administrators will be use it.
The question is how many peple will use it and when project will die?.
Open source not for system administrators only.

26.12.2014 21:40, Dmitry Kozhinov пишет:

gui uses more resources than server have to


Server admin should use less human resources, not a machine.

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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Chm viewer, xchm and Hipster


I dont mean that linux steeper than linux
I just want to say that oi is more difficult in the assimilation
and its not cool

26.12.2014 22:28, Gary Gendel пишет:

Just to interject my own feelings...

If it weren't for OI then I would have left OpenSolaris a long time 
ago.  I applaud the work done and understand the ongoing pain that 
moving towards a goal with so few people takes. In a SOHO environment, 
one machine does a lot of work, including building and testing GUI 
applications.  We don't develop products for [Open]Solaris anymore but 
you can't believe how powerful testing on different architectures 
helps find hidden flaws.  Our server side runs on Linux, but our 
clients (both GUI and command line) run on Windows, Linux, and Mac 
OS/X.  We run regressions on various flavors of these plus 
OpenIndiana.  It's amazing how many bad things Linux suppresses  that 
surfaces under OpenIndiana.  As we move from Sun libraries to Gnu 
libraries this may be less important, but I still see a value in doing 
this for our products.


We currently use hipster and it's instability has never been a big 
problem for us as we upgrade and test.  If we see something important 
has gone awry, we report it and roll back.


Are there things that we feel are lacking?  Absolutely but we work 
around them.  When things break of are deprecated we install 
replacements.  For us, not supporting DHCPv6 PD is a drawback since 
this is the method our ISP uses to give us a block of IPV6 addresses.  
I built the ISC dhcp server but I couldn't figure how to integrate it 
into illumos so it functioned correctly, so I resorted to a 4-to-6 
tunnel using Hurricane Electric.  The good side was that I was able to 
put the ISC dhcp client into poi-userland before the sun dhcp meltdown.


I contribute the little I can but find my sore spots don't jive with 
most of the illumos community, however OpenIndiana is fairly close.  I 
don't need an overblown window management system and I long for the 
days when the whole X11 infrastructure (including WM) only took about 
12Megs overhead to run on the Sparc IPC (xfwm). Tribblix is an 
alternative, but I haven't bought into Peter's vision yet as it is 
still a moving target.  I consider it as stable as hipster so there is 
no impetus to jump ship.


I just jumped in to make it known that there are some people that 
really appreciate the work going into hipster.


Gary

On 12/26/2014 07:47 AM, Евгений Парфенов wrote:
And i think admin have to balance between human resources and machine 
resources.

If IT have not economic effective than why they need company?
Im trying to say that if operating system will be more usable 
(effectivly from command line) than more IT specialist will use this 
operationg system.

And question is not about how many administrators will be use it.
The question is how many peple will use it and when project will die?.
Open source not for system administrators only.

26.12.2014 21:40, Dmitry Kozhinov пишет:

gui uses more resources than server have to


Server admin should use less human resources, not a machine.

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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Samba Proxy

If there is no glusterfs then try sync by rsync.
25.06.2014 19:47 пользователь Jonathan Adams t12nsloo...@gmail.com
написал:

 Not expecting anyone to have done such a crazy thing, but hoping someone
 has any ideas.

 Reason:

 We bought a company (part of a company) and we're migrating the users away
 from their old servers

 We're getting the data transferred, but their IT dept says it will take 5
 days ... and they need to see this data in read-only format during the
 transition

 We were hoping to proxy it through our servers, we've set up a private
 network so that our users are separate from their users ... their IT is
 sh*t ... they have 50 servers sitting in racks with 2/3rds of them turned
 off and no labels and they just let us walk into their server room with no
 supervision to set up our kit ... if anyone tried this with my kit I'd
 castrate them

 Solution 1:

 we mount -F smbfs the file system from their server
 (gid/dirperms/fileperms set appropriately) and can access it happily
 through our servers at the prompt and in the file manager windows ...

 We set up samba to share out the mount point ...

 at this point I get problems ...

 When I go to connect from the windows box I get an Invalid status
 message.

 When I try to smbclient from the server to the share I get a strange issue:

 jadams@jadlaptop:~$ smbclient 10.31.0.3\\old_emg
 Enter jadams's password:
 Domain=[HUDDOM] OS=[Unix] Server=[Samba 3.5.5]
 smb: \ ls
 NT_STATUS_INVALID_PARAMETER listing \*
 ls /smb: \ ls /
   .  DR0  Tue Mar 25 09:48:49 2014
   .. DR0  Tue Jun 10 10:27:02 2014
 ...

 I can't list *, but I can list /

 I can get files happily, but I can't see them ...

 I thought it might be something to do with the windows server, so I mount
 -F smbfs a unix samba and then tried to re-share the filesystem and I got
 the same issues ...

 does anyone have any ideas?

 Thanks.

 Jon
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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] boot hang after power loss

Seems like problem comes when network trying to up. Have you tried compile
newer version of network card driver?
25.06.2014 20:42 пользователь Michael Hase mich...@edition-software.de
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 Update: now I managed to get an mdb prompt after sending multiple breaks
 just before the smf [ network... ] messages:

 ...
 pseudo-device: audio0
 hid10 is /pci@0,0/pci1734,11cb@1d/hub@1/keyboard@2
 audio0 is /pseudo/audio@0
 /pci@0,0/pci1734,11cb@1d/hub@1/keyboard@2 (hid10) online
 pseudo-device: stmf_sbd0
 stmf_sbd0 is /pseudo/stmf_sbd@0
 ~
 Welcome to kmdb
 kmdb: unable to determine terminal type: assuming `vt100'
 Loaded modules: [ scsi_vhci stmf_sbd mac uppc neti sd unix mpt zfs krtld
 s1394
 apix nca uhci hook genunix ip usba specfs pcplusmp cpu.generic arp stmf
 sockfs
  ]
 [1] moddebug/W 8000
 moddebug:   0   =   0x8000
 [1] :c
 [ network/ip-interface-management:default starting (IP interface
 management) ]
 [ network/netcfg:default starting (Network configuration data management) ]
 [ network/datalink-management:default starting (data-link management
 daemon) ]
 load 'drv/log' id 163 loaded @ 0xf80236d8/0xc0128b68 size
 2320/568
 installing log, module id 163.
 load 'drv/sysevent' id 164 loaded @ 0xf80b/0xc0128da0
 size 5360/368
 installing sysevent, module id 164.
 load 'drv/softmac' id 165 loaded @ 0xf80b2000/0xc012a110
 size 37416/2912
 installing softmac, module id 165.
 [ network/loopback:default starting (loopback network interface) ]
 load 'socketmod/rts' id 166 loaded @ 0xf7d8ac38/0xc012ac70
 size 952/688
 installing rts, module id 166.
 uninstalled rts
 unloading rts, module id 166, loadcnt 1.
 load 'socketmod/rts' id 166 loaded @ 0xf7d8ac38/0xc012ac70
 size 952/688
 installing rts, module id 166.
 uninstalled rts
 unloading rts, module id 166, loadcnt 2.
 [ network/physical:default starting (physical network interfaces) ]
 load 'drv/e1000g' id 167 loaded @ 0xf80bc000/0xc012b000
 size 234136/1024
 installing e1000g, module id 167.
 load 'mac/mac_ether' id 168 loaded @ 0xf7ccf3c8/0xc012c000
 size 3120/3680
 installing mac_ether, module id 168.
 load 'dacf/net_dacf' id 169 loaded @ 0xf7d0dd40/0xc0128f10
 size 696/192
 installing net_dacf, module id 169.
 load 'drv/vnic' id 170 loaded @ 0xf80f6000/0xc012ac70
 size 8048/616
 installing vnic, module id 170.
 load 'misc/gld' id 172 loaded @ 0

 So it seems to hang when trying to load the misc/gld driver. After this no
 chance to send another break or get back to the kmdb console.
 Any ideas what to do next?

 Michael

 On 06/25/14 12:19, Michael Hase wrote:

 Hi,

 my oi_151a7 box (fujitsu siemens tx100 s3p) repeatedly hung at boot time
 on power loss or using the power button. Bootings starts and the last
 message with boot options -m verbose -kv is

 [ network/physical:default starting (physical network interfaces) ]

 Last kernel message is

 stmf_sbd0 is /pseudo/stmf_sbd@0

 When booting from usb I can import the root pool without any problems,
 hardware seems ok, disks look ok, networking (intel e1000) is ok. root pool
 consists of two mirrored 2.5 sas disks connected to an lsi sas controller.
 After exporting the pool and reboot it sometimes boots and sometimes hangs,
 today it seems to hang permanently. In case of a hang the usb keyboard
 doesn't work anymore, the keyboard lights on caps lock/num lock are dead.
 F1-A doesn't work (I think this doesn't work with an usb keyboard anyway).
 When shutting down normally, the box booted without problems til now.

 Now I attached a serial console, great to have an old sun ultra 60
 around, which boots without any problem after two years. Please find the
 output of the boot process below. I thought I can access the kernel
 debugger via serial console, but a break doesn't do anything.

 Does anybody have an idea how to access the kernel debugger in this case?

 Do I have to disable/disconnect the keyboard when using the serial
 console? I just added console=ttya on the grub command line, nothing else
 changed.

 Did someone see similiar behaviour of boot hangs after power loss?

 Thanks,
 Michael


 serial console output:
 -
 module /platform/i86pc/kernel/amd64/unix: text at [0xfb80,
 0xfb96500b] data at 0xfbc0
 module /kernel/amd64/genunix: text at [0xfb965010,
 0xfbbed857] data at 0xfbc954c0
 Loading kmdb...
 module /kernel/misc/amd64/kmdbmod: text at [0xfbd05090,
 0xfbdba4d7] data at 0xfbdba4e0
 module /kernel/misc/amd64/ctf: text at [0xfbbed860,
 0xfbbf81b7] data at 0xfbdd6490
 OpenIndiana Build oi_151a7 64-bit (illumos 13815:61cf2631639d)
 SunOS Release 5.11 - Copyright 1983-2010 Oracle and/or its affiliates.
 All rights reserved. Use is subject to license terms.
 x86_feature: lgpg
 x86_feature:

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Samba Proxy

You need full copy of shared files then just rsync otherwise it will be
long transfer :)
25.06.2014 20:31 пользователь Jonathan Adams t12nsloo...@gmail.com
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 1.4TB in the cloud ... and they're giving us the files in 4 days :(


 otherwise yes, I'd rsync them.


 On 25 June 2014 10:51, Евгений Парфенов artofmotion.igro...@gmail.com
 wrote:

  If there is no glusterfs then try sync by rsync.
  25.06.2014 19:47 пользователь Jonathan Adams t12nsloo...@gmail.com
  написал:
 
   Not expecting anyone to have done such a crazy thing, but hoping
 someone
   has any ideas.
  
   Reason:
  
   We bought a company (part of a company) and we're migrating the users
  away
   from their old servers
  
   We're getting the data transferred, but their IT dept says it will
 take 5
   days ... and they need to see this data in read-only format during the
   transition
  
   We were hoping to proxy it through our servers, we've set up a private
   network so that our users are separate from their users ... their IT is
   sh*t ... they have 50 servers sitting in racks with 2/3rds of them
 turned
   off and no labels and they just let us walk into their server room with
  no
   supervision to set up our kit ... if anyone tried this with my kit I'd
   castrate them
  
   Solution 1:
  
   we mount -F smbfs the file system from their server
   (gid/dirperms/fileperms set appropriately) and can access it happily
   through our servers at the prompt and in the file manager windows ...
  
   We set up samba to share out the mount point ...
  
   at this point I get problems ...
  
   When I go to connect from the windows box I get an Invalid status
   message.
  
   When I try to smbclient from the server to the share I get a strange
  issue:
  
   jadams@jadlaptop:~$ smbclient 10.31.0.3\\old_emg
   Enter jadams's password:
   Domain=[HUDDOM] OS=[Unix] Server=[Samba 3.5.5]
   smb: \ ls
   NT_STATUS_INVALID_PARAMETER listing \*
   ls /smb: \ ls /
 .  DR0  Tue Mar 25 09:48:49
  2014
 .. DR0  Tue Jun 10 10:27:02
  2014
   ...
  
   I can't list *, but I can list /
  
   I can get files happily, but I can't see them ...
  
   I thought it might be something to do with the windows server, so I
  mount
   -F smbfs a unix samba and then tried to re-share the filesystem and I
  got
   the same issues ...
  
   does anyone have any ideas?
  
   Thanks.
  
   Jon
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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Samba Proxy

We forgot about drbd! If it in repo of openindiana then it can solve your
problem better then rsync. It kind of raid1 but over tcp/ip.
25.06.2014 20:31 пользователь Jonathan Adams t12nsloo...@gmail.com
написал:

 1.4TB in the cloud ... and they're giving us the files in 4 days :(


 otherwise yes, I'd rsync them.


 On 25 June 2014 10:51, Евгений Парфенов artofmotion.igro...@gmail.com
 wrote:

  If there is no glusterfs then try sync by rsync.
  25.06.2014 19:47 пользователь Jonathan Adams t12nsloo...@gmail.com
  написал:
 
   Not expecting anyone to have done such a crazy thing, but hoping
 someone
   has any ideas.
  
   Reason:
  
   We bought a company (part of a company) and we're migrating the users
  away
   from their old servers
  
   We're getting the data transferred, but their IT dept says it will
 take 5
   days ... and they need to see this data in read-only format during the
   transition
  
   We were hoping to proxy it through our servers, we've set up a private
   network so that our users are separate from their users ... their IT is
   sh*t ... they have 50 servers sitting in racks with 2/3rds of them
 turned
   off and no labels and they just let us walk into their server room with
  no
   supervision to set up our kit ... if anyone tried this with my kit I'd
   castrate them
  
   Solution 1:
  
   we mount -F smbfs the file system from their server
   (gid/dirperms/fileperms set appropriately) and can access it happily
   through our servers at the prompt and in the file manager windows ...
  
   We set up samba to share out the mount point ...
  
   at this point I get problems ...
  
   When I go to connect from the windows box I get an Invalid status
   message.
  
   When I try to smbclient from the server to the share I get a strange
  issue:
  
   jadams@jadlaptop:~$ smbclient 10.31.0.3\\old_emg
   Enter jadams's password:
   Domain=[HUDDOM] OS=[Unix] Server=[Samba 3.5.5]
   smb: \ ls
   NT_STATUS_INVALID_PARAMETER listing \*
   ls /smb: \ ls /
 .  DR0  Tue Mar 25 09:48:49
  2014
 .. DR0  Tue Jun 10 10:27:02
  2014
   ...
  
   I can't list *, but I can list /
  
   I can get files happily, but I can't see them ...
  
   I thought it might be something to do with the windows server, so I
  mount
   -F smbfs a unix samba and then tried to re-share the filesystem and I
  got
   the same issues ...
  
   does anyone have any ideas?
  
   Thanks.
  
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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] boot hang after power loss

On power loss driver can became corrupt. Try reinstall it and in the future
use network ups tool. nut client work stable on my server.
25.06.2014 21:08 пользователь Michael Hase mich...@edition-software.de
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 On 06/25/14 12:45, Евгений Парфенов wrote:

 Seems like problem comes when network trying to up. Have you tried compile
 newer version of network card driver?

 No, didn't try that. Are there any known bugs in the e1000g driver? Or
 some bad interaction with the gld driver? I always thought the e1000g is a
 rather stable one.

 Anyways: after booting once with parameters disable-e1000g and
 disable-gld, and another normal shutdown/reboot cycle, I'm up and running
 again. The box booted without any problem.

 I'm still puzzled, next time at least I have a workaround.

 Maybe some timing problems caused by parallel subsystem startup (smf)?

 Cheers,
 Michael

  25.06.2014 20:42 пользователь Michael Hase mich...@edition-software.de
 
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  Update: now I managed to get an mdb prompt after sending multiple breaks
 just before the smf [ network... ] messages:

 ...
 pseudo-device: audio0
 hid10 is /pci@0,0/pci1734,11cb@1d/hub@1/keyboard@2
 audio0 is /pseudo/audio@0
 /pci@0,0/pci1734,11cb@1d/hub@1/keyboard@2 (hid10) online
 pseudo-device: stmf_sbd0
 stmf_sbd0 is /pseudo/stmf_sbd@0
 ~
 Welcome to kmdb
 kmdb: unable to determine terminal type: assuming `vt100'
 Loaded modules: [ scsi_vhci stmf_sbd mac uppc neti sd unix mpt zfs krtld
 s1394
 apix nca uhci hook genunix ip usba specfs pcplusmp cpu.generic arp stmf
 sockfs
   ]
 [1] moddebug/W 8000
 moddebug:   0   =   0x8000
 [1] :c
 [ network/ip-interface-management:default starting (IP interface
 management) ]
 [ network/netcfg:default starting (Network configuration data
 management) ]
 [ network/datalink-management:default starting (data-link management
 daemon) ]
 load 'drv/log' id 163 loaded @ 0xf80236d8/0xc0128b68
 size
 2320/568
 installing log, module id 163.
 load 'drv/sysevent' id 164 loaded @ 0xf80b/
 0xc0128da0
 size 5360/368
 installing sysevent, module id 164.
 load 'drv/softmac' id 165 loaded @ 0xf80b2000/0xc012a110
 size 37416/2912
 installing softmac, module id 165.
 [ network/loopback:default starting (loopback network interface) ]
 load 'socketmod/rts' id 166 loaded @ 0xf7d8ac38/
 0xc012ac70
 size 952/688
 installing rts, module id 166.
 uninstalled rts
 unloading rts, module id 166, loadcnt 1.
 load 'socketmod/rts' id 166 loaded @ 0xf7d8ac38/
 0xc012ac70
 size 952/688
 installing rts, module id 166.
 uninstalled rts
 unloading rts, module id 166, loadcnt 2.
 [ network/physical:default starting (physical network interfaces) ]
 load 'drv/e1000g' id 167 loaded @ 0xf80bc000/0xc012b000
 size 234136/1024
 installing e1000g, module id 167.
 load 'mac/mac_ether' id 168 loaded @ 0xf7ccf3c8/
 0xc012c000
 size 3120/3680
 installing mac_ether, module id 168.
 load 'dacf/net_dacf' id 169 loaded @ 0xf7d0dd40/
 0xc0128f10
 size 696/192
 installing net_dacf, module id 169.
 load 'drv/vnic' id 170 loaded @ 0xf80f6000/0xc012ac70
 size 8048/616
 installing vnic, module id 170.
 load 'misc/gld' id 172 loaded @ 0

 So it seems to hang when trying to load the misc/gld driver. After this
 no
 chance to send another break or get back to the kmdb console.
 Any ideas what to do next?

 Michael

 On 06/25/14 12:19, Michael Hase wrote:

  Hi,

 my oi_151a7 box (fujitsu siemens tx100 s3p) repeatedly hung at boot time
 on power loss or using the power button. Bootings starts and the last
 message with boot options -m verbose -kv is

 [ network/physical:default starting (physical network interfaces) ]

 Last kernel message is

 stmf_sbd0 is /pseudo/stmf_sbd@0

 When booting from usb I can import the root pool without any problems,
 hardware seems ok, disks look ok, networking (intel e1000) is ok. root
 pool
 consists of two mirrored 2.5 sas disks connected to an lsi sas
 controller.
 After exporting the pool and reboot it sometimes boots and sometimes
 hangs,
 today it seems to hang permanently. In case of a hang the usb keyboard
 doesn't work anymore, the keyboard lights on caps lock/num lock are
 dead.
 F1-A doesn't work (I think this doesn't work with an usb keyboard
 anyway).
 When shutting down normally, the box booted without problems til now.

 Now I attached a serial console, great to have an old sun ultra 60
 around, which boots without any problem after two years. Please find the
 output of the boot process below. I thought I can access the kernel
 debugger via serial console, but a break doesn't do anything.

 Does anybody have an idea how to access the kernel debugger in this
 case?

 Do I have to disable/disconnect the keyboard when using the serial
 console? I just added console=ttya on the grub command line, nothing
 else
 changed.

 Did someone see similiar behaviour

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Samba Proxy

If you have access to remote share you can make some script that will grep
newer files by date and rsync it. By the way you say you have tunnel? Then
u can just mount share into one of your servers or its not the option?
25.06.2014 21:00 пользователь Jonathan Adams t12nsloo...@gmail.com
написал:

 Thats why we're waiting for 4 days :(

 I was hoping to proxy through only the bits that they want access to
 (probably only a small number of Mb for the next few days) ... since
 they're a new acquisition we don't know yet what bits of the data they need
 on a day to day basis.

 Jon

 On 25 June 2014 11:52, Евгений Парфенов artofmotion.igro...@gmail.com
 wrote:

  We forgot about drbd! If it in repo of openindiana then it can solve your
  problem better then rsync. It kind of raid1 but over tcp/ip.
  25.06.2014 20:31 пользователь Jonathan Adams t12nsloo...@gmail.com
  написал:
 
   1.4TB in the cloud ... and they're giving us the files in 4 days :(
  
  
   otherwise yes, I'd rsync them.
  
  
   On 25 June 2014 10:51, Евгений Парфенов artofmotion.igro...@gmail.com
 
   wrote:
  
If there is no glusterfs then try sync by rsync.
25.06.2014 19:47 пользователь Jonathan Adams 
 t12nsloo...@gmail.com
написал:
   
 Not expecting anyone to have done such a crazy thing, but hoping
   someone
 has any ideas.

 Reason:

 We bought a company (part of a company) and we're migrating the
 users
away
 from their old servers

 We're getting the data transferred, but their IT dept says it will
   take 5
 days ... and they need to see this data in read-only format during
  the
 transition

 We were hoping to proxy it through our servers, we've set up a
  private
 network so that our users are separate from their users ... their
 IT
  is
 sh*t ... they have 50 servers sitting in racks with 2/3rds of them
   turned
 off and no labels and they just let us walk into their server room
  with
no
 supervision to set up our kit ... if anyone tried this with my kit
  I'd
 castrate them

 Solution 1:

 we mount -F smbfs the file system from their server
 (gid/dirperms/fileperms set appropriately) and can access it
 happily
 through our servers at the prompt and in the file manager windows
 ...

 We set up samba to share out the mount point ...

 at this point I get problems ...

 When I go to connect from the windows box I get an Invalid status
 message.

 When I try to smbclient from the server to the share I get a
 strange
issue:

 jadams@jadlaptop:~$ smbclient 10.31.0.3\\old_emg
 Enter jadams's password:
 Domain=[HUDDOM] OS=[Unix] Server=[Samba 3.5.5]
 smb: \ ls
 NT_STATUS_INVALID_PARAMETER listing \*
 ls /smb: \ ls /
   .  DR0  Tue Mar 25
 09:48:49
2014
   .. DR0  Tue Jun 10
 10:27:02
2014
 ...

 I can't list *, but I can list /

 I can get files happily, but I can't see them ...

 I thought it might be something to do with the windows server, so I
mount
 -F smbfs a unix samba and then tried to re-share the filesystem
 and
  I
got
 the same issues ...

 does anyone have any ideas?

 Thanks.

 Jon
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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] mount ntfs usb drive

2014-05-28 Thread Евгений Парфенов


seems like got it work.
i think the problem was in ntfs. portable hdd was formatted under windows 8.
so i installed older ntfs-3g,fusefs and ntfsprogs then i formatted it 
with mkfs.ntfs.

i'm doing second backup right now and there is no kernel panic for now.

will see...

28.05.2014 16:13, Jean-Pierre André пишет:

Hi,

Евгений Парфенов wrote:

strange!
installed fusefs and ntfs-3g from sfe and there is same problem.

system/file-system/fusefs (sfe) 0.20100615.2-0.151.1.5
system/file-system/ntfs-3g (sfe) 2012.1.15.0.8-0.151.1.7


Not strange at all : you switched to an older version of
ntfs-3g and fuse library but the issue lies in the fuse
kernel module.

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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] mount ntfs usb drive

2014-05-28 Thread Евгений Парфенов


yeap! figure it out already.

28.05.2014 16:37, Jean-Pierre André пишет:

Евгений Парфенов wrote:

found and installed gcc.
how i can uninstall fuse?
ntfs-3g uninstalled successfully but i cant find fuse.
pkginfo fuse or fuse-kernel says no associated package.


To uninstall the fuse kernel module :
pkgrm fusefs

If you want to recompile, it would be simpler to just
change the binary files : /usr/kernel/drv/amd64/fuse
(64-bit) and /usr/kernel/drv/fuse (32-bit), so that you
do not have to update the configuration files.

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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] mount ntfs usb drive

2014-05-28 Thread Евгений Парфенов


dmesg |grep -i fuse:
May 28 14:18:59 subversion ntfs-3g[1415]: [ID 702911 daemon.notice] 
Version 2012.1.15AR.8 external FUSE 27
May 28 16:05:01 subversion ntfs-3g[1582]: [ID 702911 daemon.notice] 
Version 2012.1.15AR.8 external FUSE 27


cut from /var/adm/messages:
May 28 14:18:59 subversion ntfs-3g[1415]: [ID 702911 daemon.notice] 
Version 2012.1.15AR.8 external FUSE 27
May 28 14:18:59 subversion ntfs-3g[1415]: [ID 702911 daemon.notice] 
Requested device /dev/dsk/c2t0d0p1 canonicalized as 
/devices/pci@0,0/pci1043,82d4@1d,7/storage@4/disk@0,0:r
May 28 14:18:59 subversion ntfs-3g[1415]: [ID 702911 daemon.notice] 
Mounted /devices/pci@0,0/pci1043,82d4@1d,7/storage@4/disk@0,0:r 
(Read-Write, label , NTFS 3.1)
May 28 14:18:59 subversion ntfs-3g[1415]: [ID 702911 daemon.notice] 
Cmdline options:
May 28 14:18:59 subversion ntfs-3g[1415]: [ID 702911 daemon.notice] 
Mount options: 
allow_other,nonempty,relatime,fsname=/devices/pci@0,0/pci1043,82d4@1d,7/storage@4/disk@0,0:r
May 28 14:18:59 subversion ntfs-3g[1415]: [ID 702911 daemon.notice] 
Ownership and permissions disabled, configuration type 4
May 28 15:45:08 subversion ntfs-3g[1415]: [ID 702911 daemon.notice] 
Unmounting /devices/pci@0,0/pci1043,82d4@1d,7/storage@4/disk@0,0:r ()
May 28 16:05:01 subversion ntfs-3g[1582]: [ID 702911 daemon.notice] 
Version 2012.1.15AR.8 external FUSE 27
May 28 16:05:01 subversion ntfs-3g[1582]: [ID 702911 daemon.notice] 
Requested device /dev/dsk/c2t0d0p1 canonicalized as 
/devices/pci@0,0/pci1043,82d4@1d,7/storage@4/disk@0,0:r
May 28 16:05:01 subversion ntfs-3g[1582]: [ID 702911 daemon.notice] 
Mounted /devices/pci@0,0/pci1043,82d4@1d,7/storage@4/disk@0,0:r 
(Read-Write, label , NTFS 3.1)
May 28 16:05:01 subversion ntfs-3g[1582]: [ID 702911 daemon.notice] 
Cmdline options:
May 28 16:05:01 subversion ntfs-3g[1582]: [ID 702911 daemon.notice] 
Mount options: 
allow_other,nonempty,relatime,fsname=/devices/pci@0,0/pci1043,82d4@1d,7/storage@4/disk@0,0:r
May 28 16:05:01 subversion ntfs-3g[1582]: [ID 702911 daemon.notice] 
Ownership and permissions disabled, configuration type 4


pkg list:
root@subversion:/var/adm# pkg list fusefs
NAME (PUBLISHER) VERSIONIFO
system/file-system/fusefs (sfe) 0.20100615.2-0.151.1.5 i--
root@subversion:/var/adm# pkg list ntfs-3g
NAME (PUBLISHER) VERSIONIFO
system/file-system/ntfs-3g (sfe) 2012.1.15.0.8-0.151.1.7i--
root@subversion:/var/adm# pkg list ntfsprogs
NAME (PUBLISHER) VERSIONIFO
system/file-system/ntfsprogs 2.0.0-0.151.1.9i--

28.05.2014 16:29, Jean-Pierre André пишет:

Hi,

Евгений Парфенов wrote:

root@subversion:/var/log# dmesg|grep -i fuse
May 27 18:09:36 subversion savecore: [ID 570001 auth.error] reboot after
panic: BAD TRAP: type=e (#pf Page fault) rp=ff00083dc760 addr=128
occurred in module fuse due to a NULL pointer dereference
May 27 18:09:38 subversion fuse: [ID 949752 kern.notice] Fuse kernel
1.1AR.4 interface 7.8
May 27 18:09:38 subversion fuse: [ID 387751 kern.notice] Fuse kernel
init at 0xf8d24643, vfs_modldrv at 0xc03591c8


Can you post the associated call chain, as you did yesterday :

panicstack = unix:die+dd () | unix:trap+17db () | unix:cmntrap+e6 () | 
fuse:fuse_vfs_modldrv+38a6 () | fuse:fuse_vfs_modldrv+38a64a53 () 
| genunix:fop_putpage+74 () | genunix:fsflush_do_pages+2c5 () | 
genunix:fsflush+39a () | unix:thread_start+8 ()


The fault location is defined as fuse_vfs_modldrv+something,
I need both the offset and the value of (fuse_)vfs_modldrv
from the *same* process in order to locate the fault.

If I were assuming the data above came from the same process,
I got :
0x38a6+0xc03591c8-0xf8d24643 = 0x98fc9
and 0x98fc9 is outside the fuse kernel module.

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[OpenIndiana-discuss] mount ntfs usb drive


how to mount ntfs usb drive?
articles that i found was old and they expecting ntfs-3g in repo but i 
don't see ntfs-3g...only ntfsprogs which i installed but when i mount 
disk it says block device.
then i tried follow this article 
http://jp-andre.pagesperso-orange.fr/openindiana-ntfs-3g.html

now i can mount ntfs but when i backup my svn repositories it causes reboot.

DESC: The system has rebooted after a kernel panic.

fmdump -Vp -u c06b2e93-8229-6b35-8e55-b0c41c9b084c:
nvlist version: 0
version = 0x0
class = list.suspect
uuid = c06b2e93-8229-6b35-8e55-b0c41c9b084c
code = SUNOS-8000-KL
diag-time = 1401178182 906349
de = fmd:///module/software-diagnosis
fault-list-sz = 0x1
fault-list = (array of embedded nvlists)
(start fault-list[0])
nvlist version: 0
version = 0x0
class = defect.sunos.kernel.panic
certainty = 0x64
asru = 
sw:///:path=/var/crash/subversion/.c06b2e93-8229-6b35-8e55-b0c41c9b084c
resource = 
sw:///:path=/var/crash/subversion/.c06b2e93-8229-6b35-8e55-b0c41c9b084c

savecore-succcess = 0
os-instance-uuid = c06b2e93-8229-6b35-8e55-b0c41c9b084c
panicstr = BAD TRAP: type=e (#pf Page fault) 
rp=ff00083dc760 addr=128 occurred in module fuse due to a NULL 
pointer dereference
panicstack = unix:die+dd () | unix:trap+17db () | 
unix:cmntrap+e6 () | fuse:fuse_vfs_modldrv+38a6 () | 
fuse:fuse_vfs_modldrv+38a64a53 () | genunix:fop_putpage+74 () | 
genunix:fsflush_do_pages+2c5 () | genunix:fsflush+39a () | 
unix:thread_start+8 () |

crashtime = 1401178067
panic-time = May 27, 2014 06:07:47 PM YAKT YAKT
(end fault-list[0])

fault-status = 0x1
severity = Major
__ttl = 0x1
__tod = 0x53844846 0x38c16f28

SunOS subversion 5.11 oi_151a9 i86pc i386 i86pc Solaris

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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] mount ntfs usb drive


interesting! will try tomorrow.
thank for reply Nikola.

27.05.2014 22:37, Nikola M. пишет:

On 05/27/14 12:40 PM, Евгений Парфенов wrote:

how to mount ntfs usb drive?
articles that i found was old and they expecting ntfs-3g in repo but 
i don't see ntfs-3g...only ntfsprogs which i installed but when i 
mount disk it says block device.
ntfs-3g is in the SFE publisher (pkg.openindiana.org/sfe), and it 
works for me.


Only when searching 'ntfs' with pkg, it does not shows up when you do 
'pkg search -rp ntfs',

but if you do 'pkg search -r ntfs-3g' it shows up.
And same goes for web page search and listing all available packages, 
where it shows.


Anyone knows why IPS/pkg does not shows packages when searching by a 
part of a package name?..

 $ pfexec pkg search -rp ntfs-3g
 PACKAGE PUBLISHER
 pkg:/system/file-system/ntfs-3g/src@2011.1.15-0.151.1.5 sfe
 pkg:/system/file-system/ntfs-3g/src@2012.1.15.0.8-0.151.1.7 sfe
 pkg:/system/file-system/ntfs-3g@2012.1.15.0.8-0.151.1.7 sfe
So you can do:
pfexec pkg install ntfs-3g
(use 'pfexec format' command to find out where is device you are 
mounting)


then i tried follow this article 
http://jp-andre.pagesperso-orange.fr/openindiana-ntfs-3g.html
now i can mount ntfs but when i backup my svn repositories it causes 
reboot. 
Oh, I have found that too. (I also used to buid it from source long 
ago, before it was put in SFE)

Maybe we could test it and build new ntfs-3g and put it in SFE?..
But it obviously need to be tested how it work first. I can test it on 
OI Hipster and OI /dev.


nikolam

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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] mount ntfs usb drive


im confused a little bit...who is right?
Nikola says that it some bug in package manager...ntfs-3g is in 
repository but i cant find it because im doing like that pkg search 
ntfs-3g and i have to use -r option to find ntfs-3g package.
But Jean-Pierre says that problem in fuse and his right (just take a 
look at dump) and he says that the link that i followed is right but its 
third party or im not right?
So Jean-Pierre yeah i see source code there but i didnt find gcc in 
repository so i cant build it. What you can advise?


27.05.2014 23:56, Jean-Pierre André пишет:

Nikola M. wrote:

On 05/27/14 12:40 PM, Евгений Парфенов wrote:

how to mount ntfs usb drive?
articles that i found was old and they expecting ntfs-3g in repo but i
don't see ntfs-3g...only ntfsprogs which i installed but when i mount
disk it says block device.

ntfs-3g is in the SFE publisher (pkg.openindiana.org/sfe), and it works
for me.

Only when searching 'ntfs' with pkg, it does not shows up when you do
'pkg search -rp ntfs',
but if you do 'pkg search -r ntfs-3g' it shows up.
And same goes for web page search and listing all available packages,
where it shows.

Anyone knows why IPS/pkg does not shows packages when searching by a
part of a package name?..
  $ pfexec pkg search -rp ntfs-3g
  PACKAGE PUBLISHER
  pkg:/system/file-system/ntfs-3g/src@2011.1.15-0.151.1.5 sfe
  pkg:/system/file-system/ntfs-3g/src@2012.1.15.0.8-0.151.1.7 sfe
  pkg:/system/file-system/ntfs-3g@2012.1.15.0.8-0.151.1.7 sfe


This is an old version. Only the one from
http://jp-andre.pagesperso-orange.fr/openindiana-ntfs-3g.html
is supported.

Also note the reported segfault is in the fuse kernel module,
(not in ntfs-3g proper) which I also try to support, and also
to be found on the same page.

The source code of both can be found at the same location.

Jean-Pierre


So you can do:
pfexec pkg install ntfs-3g
(use 'pfexec format' command to find out where is device you are 
mounting)



then i tried follow this article
http://jp-andre.pagesperso-orange.fr/openindiana-ntfs-3g.html
now i can mount ntfs but when i backup my svn repositories it causes
reboot.

Oh, I have found that too. (I also used to buid it from source long ago,
before it was put in SFE)
Maybe we could test it and build new ntfs-3g and put it in SFE?..
But it obviously need to be tested how it work first. I can test it on
OI Hipster and OI /dev.

nikolam

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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] mount ntfs usb drive


root@subversion:/var/log# dmesg|grep -i fuse
May 27 18:09:36 subversion savecore: [ID 570001 auth.error] reboot after 
panic: BAD TRAP: type=e (#pf Page fault) rp=ff00083dc760 addr=128 
occurred in module fuse due to a NULL pointer dereference
May 27 18:09:38 subversion fuse: [ID 949752 kern.notice] Fuse kernel 
1.1AR.4 interface 7.8
May 27 18:09:38 subversion fuse: [ID 387751 kern.notice] Fuse kernel 
init at 0xf8d24643, vfs_modldrv at 0xc03591c8


27.05.2014 23:49, Jean-Pierre André пишет:

Евгений Парфенов wrote:

how to mount ntfs usb drive?
articles that i found was old and they expecting ntfs-3g in repo but i
don't see ntfs-3g...only ntfsprogs which i installed but when i mount
disk it says block device.
then i tried follow this article
http://jp-andre.pagesperso-orange.fr/openindiana-ntfs-3g.html
now i can mount ntfs but when i backup my svn repositories it causes
reboot.

DESC: The system has rebooted after a kernel panic.

fmdump -Vp -u c06b2e93-8229-6b35-8e55-b0c41c9b084c:
nvlist version: 0
 version = 0x0
 class = list.suspect
 uuid = c06b2e93-8229-6b35-8e55-b0c41c9b084c
 code = SUNOS-8000-KL
 diag-time = 1401178182 906349
 de = fmd:///module/software-diagnosis
 fault-list-sz = 0x1
 fault-list = (array of embedded nvlists)
 (start fault-list[0])
 nvlist version: 0
 version = 0x0
 class = defect.sunos.kernel.panic
 certainty = 0x64
 asru =
sw:///:path=/var/crash/subversion/.c06b2e93-8229-6b35-8e55-b0c41c9b084c
 resource =
sw:///:path=/var/crash/subversion/.c06b2e93-8229-6b35-8e55-b0c41c9b084c
 savecore-succcess = 0
 os-instance-uuid = c06b2e93-8229-6b35-8e55-b0c41c9b084c
 panicstr = BAD TRAP: type=e (#pf Page fault)
rp=ff00083dc760 addr=128 occurred in module fuse due to a NULL
pointer dereference
 panicstack = unix:die+dd () | unix:trap+17db () |
unix:cmntrap+e6 () | fuse:fuse_vfs_modldrv+38a6 () |
fuse:fuse_vfs_modldrv+38a64a53 () | genunix:fop_putpage+74 () |
genunix:fsflush_do_pages+2c5 () | genunix:fsflush+39a () |
unix:thread_start+8 () |
 crashtime = 1401178067
 panic-time = May 27, 2014 06:07:47 PM YAKT YAKT
 (end fault-list[0])

 fault-status = 0x1
 severity = Major
 __ttl = 0x1
 __tod = 0x53844846 0x38c16f28

SunOS subversion 5.11 oi_151a9 i86pc i386 i86pc Solaris


If you installed the fuse kernel module from the mentioned
page, when it initializes, it logs its own location. This
should look like :

Fuse kernel 1.1AR.4 interface 7.8
Fuse kernel init at 0xf8139643, vfs_modldrv at 0xc012d1c8

Would you please this last line (from the process which
segfaulted), which I need to decode where the fuse kernel
module segfaulted ?

Jean-Pierre



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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] mount ntfs usb drive


found and installed gcc.
how i can uninstall fuse?
ntfs-3g uninstalled successfully but i cant find fuse.
pkginfo fuse or fuse-kernel says no associated package.

28.05.2014 0:37, Jean-Pierre André пишет:

Евгений Парфенов wrote:

im confused a little bit...who is right?
Nikola says that it some bug in package manager...ntfs-3g is in
repository but i cant find it because im doing like that pkg search
ntfs-3g and i have to use -r option to find ntfs-3g package.
But Jean-Pierre says that problem in fuse and his right (just take a
look at dump) and he says that the link that i followed is right but its
third party or im not right?


You may indeed think of me as third party, and if you
find a better fuse kernel module, please tell me, I
have long sought for help.


So Jean-Pierre yeah i see source code there but i didnt find gcc in
repository so i cant build it. What you can advise?


Why do you not use the ready-to-install pkg ? The
install procedure is documented on the same page.

I cannot provide help for compiling (I have never tried
compiling on OpenIndiana), but you should only have to
compile the five source files and link them as an object
(not as an executable : use ld -r).


27.05.2014 23:56, Jean-Pierre André пишет:

Nikola M. wrote:

On 05/27/14 12:40 PM, Евгений Парфенов wrote:

how to mount ntfs usb drive?
articles that i found was old and they expecting ntfs-3g in repo 
but i

don't see ntfs-3g...only ntfsprogs which i installed but when i mount
disk it says block device.
ntfs-3g is in the SFE publisher (pkg.openindiana.org/sfe), and it 
works

for me.

Only when searching 'ntfs' with pkg, it does not shows up when you do
'pkg search -rp ntfs',
but if you do 'pkg search -r ntfs-3g' it shows up.
And same goes for web page search and listing all available packages,
where it shows.

Anyone knows why IPS/pkg does not shows packages when searching by a
part of a package name?..
  $ pfexec pkg search -rp ntfs-3g
  PACKAGE PUBLISHER
  pkg:/system/file-system/ntfs-3g/src@2011.1.15-0.151.1.5 sfe
pkg:/system/file-system/ntfs-3g/src@2012.1.15.0.8-0.151.1.7 sfe
  pkg:/system/file-system/ntfs-3g@2012.1.15.0.8-0.151.1.7 sfe


This is an old version. Only the one from
http://jp-andre.pagesperso-orange.fr/openindiana-ntfs-3g.html
is supported.

Also note the reported segfault is in the fuse kernel module,
(not in ntfs-3g proper) which I also try to support, and also
to be found on the same page.

The source code of both can be found at the same location.

Jean-Pierre


So you can do:
pfexec pkg install ntfs-3g
(use 'pfexec format' command to find out where is device you are
mounting)


then i tried follow this article
http://jp-andre.pagesperso-orange.fr/openindiana-ntfs-3g.html
now i can mount ntfs but when i backup my svn repositories it causes
reboot.
Oh, I have found that too. (I also used to buid it from source long 
ago,

before it was put in SFE)
Maybe we could test it and build new ntfs-3g and put it in SFE?..
But it obviously need to be tested how it work first. I can test it on
OI Hipster and OI /dev.

nikolam

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