Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Knowledge Base for Compiling and InstallingSoftware Not Available as Packages.

2012-12-20 Thread Andrey N. Oktyabrski

On 12/20/2012 01:02 PM, Volker A. Brandt wrote:

However, it is another step away from real Solaris.  The old Solaris
up to 10 has SVR4, the new Solaris has IPS.  So these are really the
only options for any distro targeted for the mainstream users.

$ cat /usr/pkgsrc/pkgtools/gensolpkg/DESCR
This is a small utility to translate from NetBSD-derived pkgsrc
packages into Solaris packages.  I wrote this as an aid to
understanding Solaris packages, and to provide some Solaris packages
which can be used in jumpstart, and manipulated with the Solaris
package manipulation tools, but still have the benefit of the original
package being maintained by a number of people who know what they're
doing, and put a lot of time into keeping abreast of latest versions
and bug fix releases.

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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Knowledge Base for Compiling and InstallingSoftware Not Available as Packages.

2012-12-20 Thread Andrey N. Oktyabrski

On 12/20/2012 03:57 PM, Volker A. Brandt wrote:

Andrey N. Oktyabrski wrote:

$ cat /usr/pkgsrc/pkgtools/gensolpkg/DESCR This is a small utility
to translate from NetBSD-derived pkgsrc packages into Solaris
packages.


Yes, that was what I was thinking of.  I had tried it years ago and it
looked nice.  Thanks for writing it!
No-no-no - these thanks not for me :-) I'm not an author. I think, the 
author is agc@



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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Knowledge Base for Compiling and InstallingSoftware Not Available as Packages.

2012-12-20 Thread Andrey N. Oktyabrski

On 12/20/2012 04:35 PM, Andrey N. Oktyabrski wrote:

On 12/20/2012 03:57 PM, Volker A. Brandt wrote:

Andrey N. Oktyabrski wrote:

$ cat /usr/pkgsrc/pkgtools/gensolpkg/DESCR This is a small utility
to translate from NetBSD-derived pkgsrc packages into Solaris
packages.


Yes, that was what I was thinking of.  I had tried it years ago and it
looked nice.  Thanks for writing it!

No-no-no - these thanks not for me :-) I'm not an author. I think, the
author is agc@

Hmm... It seems misc/epm is more right tool:
$ cat /usr/pkgsrc/misc/epm/DESCR
EPM is an open source UNIX software and file packaging program that
generates distribution archives from a list of files. EPM provides a
complete, cross-platform software distribution solution for your
applications.

ESP generates both native and portable script-based distribution 
packages complete with installation and removal scripts and standard
install/uninstall GUIs. The installers can be customized with product 
logos, readme files, and click-wrap licenses as desired.


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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] usb audio

2012-10-18 Thread Andrey N. Oktyabrski

On 10/18/2012 12:16 AM, Udo Grabowski (IMK) wrote:

On 10/17/12 04:58 PM, Andrey N. Oktyabrski wrote:

On 17.10.12 00:15, Udo Grabowski (IMK) wrote:

But these drivers will only work (and load automatically) if
the device complies to the USB audio class specification, which
should be seen in prtconf -v as either usbif,class1.1 or
usbif,class1.2 for your device. If not, you need a proprietary
driver for that specific gadget.

Do you mean this string?
value='usbif1852,8005.1.config1.0' + 'usbif1852,8005.config1.0' +
'usbif1852,class3.0.0' + 'usbif1852,class3.0' + 'usbif1852,class3' +
'usbif,class3.0.0' + 'usbif,class3.0' + 'usbif,class3'

So this device will not work with OI. No luck...
Anyway, thank you.


Uhm, class3 is just Human Interface Device class, without
specifics. You could just try to bind these to the usb_ac/_as
as a wild guess via /etc/driver_aliases:

usb_ac usbif1852,8005.1.config1.0 or usbif1852,8005.config1.0
usb_as usbif1852,class3

then plug and prayBut devices proprely designed for the USB
audio class would give class1.1 and 1.2, so I don't expect that
that will work.

Does not work.

I've compiled and installed OSS 4.2 in separate BE, and it does not work 
too.


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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] usb audio

2012-10-17 Thread Andrey N. Oktyabrski

On 17.10.12 00:15, Udo Grabowski (IMK) wrote:

But these drivers will only work (and load automatically) if
the device complies to the USB audio class specification, which
should be seen in prtconf -v as either usbif,class1.1 or
usbif,class1.2 for your device. If not, you need a proprietary
driver for that specific gadget.

Do you mean this string?
value='usbif1852,8005.1.config1.0' + 'usbif1852,8005.config1.0' + 
'usbif1852,class3.0.0' + 'usbif1852,class3.0' + 'usbif1852,class3' + 
'usbif,class3.0.0' + 'usbif,class3.0' + 'usbif,class3'


So this device will not work with OI. No luck...
Anyway, thank you.

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[OpenIndiana-discuss] usb audio

2012-10-16 Thread Andrey N. Oktyabrski

Good day.

I want to use usb audio controller:
Oct 16 07:40:57 thinkpot usba: [ID 912658 kern.info] USB 1.10 device 
(usb1852,8005) operating at full speed (USB 1.x) on USB 1.10 root hub: 
device@2, usb_mid4 at bus address 2

Oct 16 07:40:57 thinkpot usba: [ID 349649 kern.info]JAVS UHF-nano/S
Oct 16 07:40:57 thinkpot genunix: [ID 936769 kern.info] usb_mid4 is 
/pci@0,0/pci17aa,20aa@1d/device@2
Oct 16 07:40:57 thinkpot genunix: [ID 408114 kern.info] 
/pci@0,0/pci17aa,20aa@1d/device@2 (usb_mid4) online
Oct 16 07:40:57 thinkpot pcplusmp: [ID 805372 kern.info] pcplusmp: ide 
(ata) instance 1 irq 0xf vector 0x44 ioapic 0x1 intin 0xf is bound to cpu 1
Oct 16 07:40:57 thinkpot usba: [ID 912658 kern.info] USB 1.10 interface 
(usbif1852,8005.config1.0) operating at full speed (USB 1.x) on USB 1.10 
root hub: input@0, hid4 at bus address 2

Oct 16 07:40:57 thinkpot usba: [ID 349649 kern.info]JAVS UHF-nano/S
Oct 16 07:40:57 thinkpot genunix: [ID 936769 kern.info] hid4 is 
/pci@0,0/pci17aa,20aa@1d/device@2/input@0
Oct 16 07:40:57 thinkpot genunix: [ID 408114 kern.info] 
/pci@0,0/pci17aa,20aa@1d/device@2/input@0 (hid4) online
Oct 16 07:40:57 thinkpot usba: [ID 912658 kern.info] USB 1.10 interface 
(usbif1852,8005.config1.1) operating at full speed (USB 1.x) on USB 1.10 
root hub: sound-control@1, usb_ac0 at bus address 2

Oct 16 07:40:57 thinkpot usba: [ID 349649 kern.info]JAVS UHF-nano/S
Oct 16 07:40:57 thinkpot genunix: [ID 936769 kern.info] usb_ac0 is 
/pci@0,0/pci17aa,20aa@1d/device@2/sound-control@1
Oct 16 07:40:57 thinkpot genunix: [ID 408114 kern.info] 
/pci@0,0/pci17aa,20aa@1d/device@2/sound-control@1 (usb_ac0) online
Oct 16 07:40:58 thinkpot pcplusmp: [ID 805372 kern.info] pcplusmp: ide 
(ata) instance 1 irq 0xf vector 0x44 ioapic 0x1 intin 0xf is bound to cpu 0


$ prtconf -D
...
pci17aa,20aa, instance #2 (driver name: uhci)
device, instance #4 (driver name: usb_mid)
input, instance #4 (driver name: hid)
sound-control, instance #0 (driver name: usb_ac)
...

But I haven't any usable devices for it. Can I use this card, or current 
drivers does not support it?


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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] usb audio

2012-10-16 Thread Andrey N. Oktyabrski

On 10/16/2012 01:56 PM, Laurent Blume wrote:

On 16/10/12 05:59, Andrey N. Oktyabrski wrote:

Good day.

snip

$ prtconf -D
...
pci17aa,20aa, instance #2 (driver name: uhci)
device, instance #4 (driver name: usb_mid)
input, instance #4 (driver name: hid)
sound-control, instance #0 (driver name: usb_ac)
...

But I haven't any usable devices for it. Can I use this card, or current
drivers does not support it?


You are not getting any /dev/sound/xx devices when you plug it? One
common problem in Solaris is that the /dev/audio symlinks are rarely
updated in the way the user expects when audio devices are plugged in/out.

How can I update that? devfsadm doesn't help, and I don't know other way.


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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] usb audio

2012-10-16 Thread Andrey N. Oktyabrski

On 16.10.12 16:18, Laurent Blume wrote:

On 16/10/12 12:14, Andrey N. Oktyabrski wrote:

How can I update that? devfsadm doesn't help, and I don't know other way.


I've never found a way other than manually removing the /dev/audio
symlinks and recreating them to the right device. I had an USB webcam
with a mike, every time it was plugged in, it became the default audio
device. I recreated /dev/audio* as needed.

How you recreated that? ln -s? devfsadm does not create anything.


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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] usb audio

2012-10-16 Thread Andrey N. Oktyabrski

On 16.10.12 19:18, Udo Grabowski (IMK) wrote:

I found that these entries in /etc/dacf.conf formerly present in
Osol 2009.06 are missing now:

#
# Configure and/or unconfigure usb audio devices.
# usb_ac as a mux for hid and usb_as devices.
#
driver-minorname=usb_ac:mux usb_ac_dacf:usb_audio_config post-attach -
driver-minorname=usb_ac:mux usb_ac_dacf:usb_audio_config pre-detach -

The /etc/driver_aliases entry is still there, the /kernel/drv/usb_ac is
there, and the /kernel/drv/usb_ac.conf file has this promising entry
commented:
#
# Uncomment reset-configuration to cause the usb_ac driver's state to
# be reset to the default when the driver is loaded. Otherwise this state
# is retained across driver unload/reload cycles, but not across reboots.
#
#reset-configuration=1;

Maybe inserting the above lines and uncommenting this one followed
by a reboot helps ?

No, it does not help.

May be another driver must be loaded? Such as usb_as. I do not see it in 
the modinfo output.



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[OpenIndiana-discuss] oi151a4 does not wake up

2012-06-14 Thread Andrey N. Oktyabrski

Good day.

I have a ThinkPad T61 with oi151a installed from scratch. It does not 
enable screen on wake up. To be clear: I have set in the Gnome menu to 
suspend when laptop lid is closed. It does. When I open a lid and press 
power button, laptop wakes up, but screen does not. What settings I must 
change?


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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] oi151a4 does not wake up

2012-06-14 Thread Andrey N. Oktyabrski

On 14.06.12 17:17, Michael Schuster wrote:

which graphics adapter (ATI or Nvidia) is installed on this Thinkpad?

nvidia



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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] oi151a4 does not wake up

2012-06-14 Thread Andrey N. Oktyabrski

On 14.06.12 21:08, Ewald Ertl wrote:

which graphics adapter (ATI or Nvidia) is installed on this Thinkpad?


nvidia


hmm ... IIRC those were supported. I guess this may depend on which
specific chip, can't add anything myself though, I'm afraid. Perhaps
you can dig up the X log, in case someone asks for it :-)


Just to add a data point, this also happens on my Dell E6410 with the
NVIDIA NVS 3100M using the 302.07 beta driver.


AFAIK the NVidia driver in OI151* is directly from NVidia and does not
contain the code
for suspend/resume in Solaris and that's the reason.
The original driver in OpenSolaris contained that code part.

Thank you, Michael, Ron, Ewald. What I have tried:
- nv driver
- nvidia 295.49
- nvidia 302.07 beta

All three doesn't wake up. I think, the problem is anywhere in other 
place, not in driver. On my old dead hdd I have had oi148 updated to 
oi151 and suspend/resume worked fine.



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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Problems with Virtual Box

2012-04-11 Thread Andrey N. Oktyabrski

On 11.04.12 11:55, Paul Johnston wrote:

Failed to create the VirtualBox COM object.
The application will now terminate.
Callee RC: NS_ERROR_ABORT (0x80004004)


$ cat bin/vbox.sh
#! /bin/sh
LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/sfw/lib/amd64
export LD_LIBRARY_PATH
VirtualBox

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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Missing a publisher?

2012-03-15 Thread Andrey N. Oktyabrski

On 15.03.12 15:10, Paul Johnston wrote:

paulj@openindiana:~$ pkg publisher
PUBLISHER TYPE STATUS   URI
openindiana.org  (preferred)  origin   online   
http://pkg.openindiana.org/dev/
oi-experimental   origin   online   
http://pkg.openindiana.org/experimental/

Was looking for gcc but only found.

paulj@openindiana:~$ pkg list  | grep gcc
system/library/gcc-3-runtime  3.4.3-0.151.1.2 installed  u

Guess I'm missing the big publisher, any suggestions?


$ pkg publisher
PUBLISHER TYPE STATUS   URI
openindiana.org  (preferred)  origin   online 
http://pkg.openindiana.org/dev/
sfe   origin   online 
http://pkg.openindiana.org/sfe/
sfe-encumberedorigin   online 
http://pkg.openindiana.org/sfe-encumbered/

$ pkg list  | grep gcc
developer/gcc-3   3.4.3-0.151.1.2 installed 
 -
runtime/gcc (sfe) 4.6.2-0.151.1   installed 
 -
system/library/gcc-3-runtime  3.4.3-0.151.1.2 installed 
 -


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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Sendmail dependencies

2012-02-16 Thread Andrey N. Oktyabrski

On 16.02.12 23:07, Gary Gendel wrote:

I tried to start up smtp-notify, but it failed because sendmail-client
wasn't running. This is a problem because I have a sendmail replacement
(qmail) running. Once I modified the dependencies using svccfg to
exclude sendmail-client and include qmail-smtp (which provides the
sendmail equivalent) it ran fine.

However, this bring up the question of how to deal with an MTA
replacement for sendmail functionality in general. I'm sure that others
will be using postfix, qmail, etc. instead of sendmail. We should figure
a way that a MTA replacement doesn't break functionality of services
like smtp-notify.

Maybe it's time to introduce something same as BSD's mailwrapper(8)?

Usually I make this trick on OSes which have not mailwrapper:
# mv /usr/lib/sendmail /usr/lib/sendmail.real
# ln -s /usr/pkg/sbin/exim /usr/lib/sendmail

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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] OI 151 with C206 motherboard: missing drivers?

2012-02-07 Thread Andrey N. Oktyabrski

On 07.02.12 13:51, David Wragg wrote:

- Intel 82801 SATA RAID Controller
- Intel Cougar Point HECI Controller #1
- Unknown class of pci/pnpbios device

Fortunately I have an Intel SASUC8I card in the machine, so I can
continue talking to hard disks, but it's a bit sad to have a SATA3 SSD
that I can't plug into a SATA3 port. From the reading I've done, I'm
given mixed impressions: either the Intel AMT driver should work, but
it's already installed and apparently doesn't, or there's simply no
driver, nor is there likely to be.

AFAIK sata3 and usb3 is not supported.

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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Replacing OI 151 ssh with OpenSSH 5.9?

2012-01-20 Thread Andrey N. Oktyabrski

On 18.01.12 20:49, Gary wrote:

So I use pkgsrc's openssh.


Are you using NetBSD's pkgsrc from scratch?
Like this? http://wiki-static.aydogan.net/How_to_use_pkgsrc_on_Solaris
Would you be so kind as to share the methods to your madness? :)

I use gcc-4.6.2 from the sfw IPS repository.
This is my mk.conf:
.ifdef BSD_PKG_MK   # begin pkgsrc settings

ABI=32
PKGSRC_COMPILER=gcc
WRKOBJDIR=  /tmp/pkgwrk

PKG_DBDIR=  /var/db/pkg
LOCALBASE=  /usr/pkg
VARBASE=/var
PKG_TOOLS_BIN=  /usr/pkg/sbin
PKGMANDIR=  man

TOOLS_PLATFORM.install?=/usr/pkg/bin/install-sh
TOOLS_PLATFORM.sh?= /usr/pkg/bin/pdksh
TOOLS_PLATFORM.ksh?=/usr/pkg/bin/pdksh

TOOLS_PLATFORM.diff?=   /usr/bin/gdiff
TOOLS_PLATFORM.patch?=  /usr/gnu/bin/patch

PREFER_PKGSRC=  no
PREFER_NATIVE=  solaris-pam
PREFER_NATIVE_PTHREADS= yes

X11_TYPE=   modular

USE_BUILTIN.curses= yes
USE_BUILTIN.openssl=yes

PREFER.sun-jre6=native
JAVA_BINPREFIX= /usr/bin

USE_DESTDIR = yes

SU_CMD  = /bin/pfexec /bin/sh -c

PYTHON_VERSION_DEFAULT  = 27

PKG_OPTIONS.openssl = idea mdc2 rc5 threads zlib
PKG_OPTIONS.freetype2   = subpixel
PKG_OPTIONS.gmp = mmx
PKG_OPTIONS.pari= gmp x11
PKG_OPTIONS.sox = lame
PKG_OPTIONS.lame= unicode
PKG_OPTIONS.libsndfile  = oss
PKG_OPTIONS.openvpn = pkcs11
PKG_OPTIONS.mplayer += mplayer-ssse3 -pulseaudio
PKG_OPTIONS.gmplayer+= mplayer-ssse3 -pulseaudio
PKG_OPTIONS.gnome-mplayer += -pulseaudio -gnome -musicbrainz
PKG_OPTIONS.SDL = -arts -pulseaudio
PKG_OPTIONS.pulseaudio  = avahi
PKG_OPTIONS.speex   = fftw simd
PKG_OPTIONS.unbound = libevent
PKG_OPTIONS.nginx   = dav flv mail-proxy memcache pcre realip ssl 
sub image-filter upload debug

PKG_OPTIONS.exim= \
exim-appendfile-maildir \
exim-appendfile-mailstore \
exim-appendfile-mbx \
exim-content-scan \
exim-lookup-dnsdb \
exim-lookup-dsearch \
exim-tls \
exim-transport-lmtp \
exim-auth-cyrus-sasl \
spf
PKG_OPTIONS.imap-uw = imapuw-cleartextpwd
PKG_OPTIONS.openssh =
PKG_OPTIONS.ssh2=
PKG_OPTIONS.php = ssl
PKG_OPTIONS.php53-fpm   = ssl
PKG_OPTIONS.libsoup24   =
PKG_OPTIONS.webkit-gtk  =
PKG_OPTIONS.gtkdoc  =
PKG_OPTIONS.erlang  = erlang-hipe
PKG_OPTIONS.pidgin  = dbus
PKG_OPTIONS.gajim   = -avahi ssl
PKG_OPTIONS.pidgin  = -dbus -farsight -gstreamer -gtkspell
PKG_OPTIONS.centerim= -gpgme
PKG_OPTIONS.libmemcached= -dtrace

ACCEPTABLE_LICENSES += openssl-patented-algorithms-nonlicense
ACCEPTABLE_LICENSES += ssh-communications-security-license
ACCEPTABLE_LICENSES += shorten-license
ACCEPTABLE_LICENSES += lame-license
ACCEPTABLE_LICENSES += mplayer-codec-license
ACCEPTABLE_LICENSES += erlang-public-license
ACCEPTABLE_LICENSES += postgresql-license
ACCEPTABLE_LICENSES += gnu-lgpl-v2.1
ACCEPTABLE_LICENSES += unrar-license

.endif  # end pkgsrc settings

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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Replacing OI 151 ssh with OpenSSH 5.9?

2012-01-17 Thread Andrey N. Oktyabrski

On 17.01.12 21:06, James Carlson wrote:

Why would you want to do that ... ?

I need sftp-only chrooted accounts. For example:
Match group sftp
 ChrootDirectory /home/%u
 X11Forwarding no
 AllowTcpForwarding no
 ForceCommand internal-sftp

So I use pkgsrc's openssh.

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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] e2fsprogs header file bug

2011-11-04 Thread Andrey N. Oktyabrski

On 03.11.11 16:22, James Carlson wrote:

Andrey N. Oktyabrski wrote:

More about e2fsprogs. Now from the pkgsrc. There is a same bug as here:
http://gnats.netbsd.org/cgi-bin/query-pr-single.pl?number=45499

Is it correct to expect ifr_hwaddr member in ifreq structure if
SIOCGIFHWADDR defined?


It might be correct on some platforms.  It wouldn't be correct on
OpenIndiana, because it doesn't exist on that one.  In other words, the
application needs to be ported.

I believe that ioctl only works on PF_PACKET sockets, and requires the
use of sockaddr_ll.  See:

http://arc.opensolaris.org/caselog/PSARC/2009/232/pfp-psarc.txt


What solution would be correct?
1. Check it in the configure stage:
if ${OPSYS} == SunOS then #undef SIOCGIFHWADDR in config.h

In this case the software developers must do it in the configure script.

2. Remove the SIOCGIFHWADDR definition from Illumos/OI headers while it 
don't work.


In this case Illumos/OI developers must correct header files.


P.S. I can't understand, why e2fsprogs want any network-related 
headers... Of course, this question is for e2fsprogs developers.


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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] e2fsprogs header file bug

2011-11-01 Thread Andrey N. Oktyabrski

More about e2fsprogs. Now from the pkgsrc. There is a same bug as here:
http://gnats.netbsd.org/cgi-bin/query-pr-single.pl?number=45499

Is it correct to expect ifr_hwaddr member in ifreq structure if 
SIOCGIFHWADDR defined?


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[OpenIndiana-discuss] e2fsprogs header file bug

2011-10-28 Thread Andrey N. Oktyabrski

Good day.

In which bug tracker I must create a bug report for this issue?

(Cite from: http://gnats.netbsd.org/cgi-bin/query-pr-single.pl?number=45491)

The problem is that on OI-151 EXT2_IOC_GETFLAGS is defined as


_IOR('f', 1, long)


 where _IOR is defined in drm/drm.h which is not included.
 To me this looks like a bug in OpenIndiana.

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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] e2fsprogs header file bug

2011-10-28 Thread Andrey N. Oktyabrski

On 28.10.11 16:29, James Carlson wrote:

In which bug tracker I must create a bug report for this issue?

The problem is that on OI-151 EXT2_IOC_GETFLAGS is defined as
 _IOR('f', 1, long)
  where _IOR is defined in drm/drm.h which is not included.
  To me this looks like a bug in OpenIndiana.


At a guess, I suspect that what's going on here is that you have a
/usr/include/ext2/fs.h that's delivered by libparted, and this other
software is assuming that if this file is present, then all things in
it must work and it must correspond to a kernel feature.

Where you see the fs.h? ext2fs/ext2fs.h


I think that's a bit of a brash assumption on the part of the author of
that libarchive software.  Just because you troll through /usr/include
and find a file there does not automatically mean it'll do what you
think it does -- basically, any package can add a file to that directory
for any reason, not just bona fide parts of the OS.

Yes, I agree, but this is a separate bug :-) And this bug is not IO-related.


One thing you could do would be to find out what installed that file,
and then go ask the author of that package whether he thinks he should
be delivering the file:

pkg search -lp /usr/include/ext2/fs.h

$ pkg search -lp /usr/include/ext2fs/ext2fs.h
PACKAGE   PUBLISHER
pkg:/system/file-system/e2fsprogs@1.41.14-0.151.1


My guess, though, is that he's really not at fault here, and that the
fault really lies with the software that is making assumptions about
what those files represent.  Writing portable software is harder than
that.  Reading through that problem report, though, makes it sound like
those other developers aren't going to agree with me.  :-/
I think, if any header file uses some macro, it must include header file 
with definition for this macro. Am I wrong?


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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] e2fsprogs header file bug

2011-10-28 Thread Andrey N. Oktyabrski

On 28.10.11 18:29, James Carlson wrote:

pkg:/system/file-system/e2fsprogs@1.41.14-0.151.1


That doesn't come with the system.  It's part of OI-SFE.

Looking over the software, it doesn't look to me like anyone should
assume that if the header files are present, then the kernel bits are
present as well.  These programs are for compatibility -- specifically
on systems that lack those Linux-specific file systems.


My guess, though, is that he's really not at fault here, and that the
fault really lies with the software that is making assumptions about
what those files represent.  Writing portable software is harder than
that.  Reading through that problem report, though, makes it sound like
those other developers aren't going to agree with me.  :-/

I think, if any header file uses some macro, it must include header file
with definition for this macro. Am I wrong?


To that last question, I'd say yes.

I can see no need for any requirement that all of the macros defined in
a header file must be usable in all contexts.  There are cases where the
macros defined are usable only in certain contexts -- such as when
building a kernel module or when compiling for debug or with certain
optional features.

Yes, I do think that, as a design point, it's a good thing for header
files shipped with the system to be stand-alone, meaning that they can
be compiled successfully without needing prior includes.

But, aside from that, I don't believe it's a requirement that anything
inside is usable by anyone, unless it's actually _documented_ to be
useful.  In this case, I can see no documentation related to e2fsprogs
that suggests that including this header file will somehow get you
EXT2FS-related kernel ioctl support.

You might have an argument that e2fsprogs shouldn't include this header
file.  Most projects (for what it's worth) just toss in the kitchen sink
-- anything that's built is shipped, even if it's not normally useful
for anyone outside of the project.
Thanks for detailed explanation, you are right. But if you don't want to 
give someone something, don't give it. Otherwise it is a cheese in a 
mousetrap.

Perhaps, it is necessary to remove unusable headers from system?


Perhaps Ken Mays might have something to say about it.

I would be glad to hear his opinion.

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[OpenIndiana-discuss] wine sound

2011-10-18 Thread Andrey N. Oktyabrski

Good day.

foobar2000 can't play anything under wine.
Is it known problem, or something is wrong in my system?

12:33 ano@thinkpot:~:$ wine .wine/drive_c/Program\ 
Files/foobar2000/foobar2000.exe
err:ntlm:SECUR32_initNTLMSP ntlm_auth was not found or is outdated. Make 
sure that ntlm_auth = 3.0.25 is in your path.
err:ntlm:SECUR32_initNTLMSP Usually, you can find it in the winbind 
package of your distribution.

fixme:heap:HeapSetInformation 0 1 0 0
err:winmm:MMDRV_Init GetValue failed: 80030005
fixme:mmdevapi:MMDevEnum_RegisterEndpointNotificationCallback stub
fixme:oss:AudioSessionControl_RegisterAudioSessionNotification 
(13ffa0)-(928408) - stub

fixme:oss:SimpleAudioVolume_SetMasterVolume Notifications not supported yet
fixme:win:RegisterShellHookWindow (20062): stub
err:ole:CoGetClassObject class {1968106d-f3b5-44cf-890e-116fcb9ecef1} 
not registered
err:ole:CoGetClassObject class {1968106d-f3b5-44cf-890e-116fcb9ecef1} 
not registered
err:ole:create_server class {1968106d-f3b5-44cf-890e-116fcb9ecef1} not 
registered

fixme:ole:CoGetClassObject CLSCTX_REMOTE_SERVER not supported
err:ole:CoGetClassObject no class object 
{1968106d-f3b5-44cf-890e-116fcb9ecef1} could be created for context 0x17

fixme:avrt:AvSetMmThreadCharacteristicsW (LPlayback,211f394): stub
fixme:avrt:AvSetMmThreadCharacteristicsW (LPlayback,221f4c0): stub
err:dsound:DSOUND_callback Wave queue corrupted!
err:dsound:DSOUND_callback Wave queue corrupted!
err:dsound:DSOUND_callback Wave queue corrupted!
err:dsound:DSOUND_callback Wave queue corrupted!
err:dsound:DSOUND_callback Wave queue corrupted!
err:dsound:DSOUND_callback Wave queue corrupted!
err:dsound:DSOUND_callback Wave queue corrupted!
err:dsound:DSOUND_callback Wave queue corrupted!
err:dsound:DSOUND_callback Wave queue corrupted!
err:dsound:DSOUND_callback Wave queue corrupted!
err:dsound:DSOUND_callback Wave queue corrupted!
err:dsound:DSOUND_callback Wave queue corrupted!
err:dsound:DSOUND_callback Wave queue corrupted!
err:dsound:DSOUND_callback Wave queue corrupted!
err:dsound:DSOUND_callback Wave queue corrupted!
err:dsound:DSOUND_callback Wave queue corrupted!
err:dsound:DSOUND_callback Wave queue corrupted!
err:dsound:DSOUND_callback Wave queue corrupted!
err:dsound:DSOUND_callback Wave queue corrupted!
err:dsound:DSOUND_callback Wave queue corrupted!
err:dsound:DSOUND_callback Wave queue corrupted!
err:dsound:DSOUND_callback Wave queue corrupted!
err:dsound:DSOUND_callback Wave queue corrupted!
err:dsound:DSOUND_callback Wave queue corrupted!
err:dsound:DSOUND_callback Wave queue corrupted!
err:dsound:DSOUND_callback Wave queue corrupted!
err:dsound:DSOUND_callback Wave queue corrupted!
err:dsound:DSOUND_MixOne Fatal error. Under/Overflow? 
primary_done=26624, mixpos=13600/211680 (27200/423360), 
primary_mixpos=34816, writepos=8192, mixlen=0

err:dsound:DSOUND_callback Wave queue corrupted!
err:dsound:DSOUND_MixOne Fatal error. Under/Overflow? 
primary_done=30720, mixpos=13600/211680 (27200/423360), 
primary_mixpos=8192, writepos=43008, mixlen=0

err:dsound:DSOUND_callback Wave queue corrupted!
err:dsound:DSOUND_MixOne Fatal error. Under/Overflow? 
primary_done=28672, mixpos=13600/211680 (27200/423360), 
primary_mixpos=43008, writepos=14336, mixlen=0


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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] wine sound

2011-10-18 Thread Andrey N. Oktyabrski

On 10/18/11 06:48 PM, ken mays wrote:

Looks like the oi-sfe-encumbered repo needs a small refreshing:

*library/desktop/wine 1.3.29,5.11-0.151.1:20111015T234748Z
desktop/wine 1.3.30,5.11-0.151.1:20111015T234830Z

Thank you, 1.3.30 works well.


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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Huawei E1550 usb 3g modem

2011-10-12 Thread Andrey N. Oktyabrski

On 12.10.11 09:24, Andrey N. Oktyabrski wrote:

Good day.

How can I switch it to the modem mode from mass storage mode? Something
same as usb_modeswitch from Linux wanted. Or I must write anything in
the /etc/driver_aliases?

I have got the solution.
Under Windows XP:
- Install modem driver
- In the HyperTerminal switch device to right mode:
AT^U2DIAG=0- modem-only mode (I use this mode)
AT^U2DIAG=1- modem+cdrom mode
AT^U2DIAG=255  - modem+cdrom+cardreader mode
AT^U2DIAG=256  - modem+cardreader mode

Under OpenIndiana:
echo 'usbsacm usb12d1,1001'  /etc/driver_aliases

Then we have /dev/cua/0 and use it in the pppd :-)

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[OpenIndiana-discuss] Huawei E1550 usb 3g modem

2011-10-11 Thread Andrey N. Oktyabrski

Good day.

How can I switch it to the modem mode from mass storage mode? Something 
same as usb_modeswitch from Linux wanted. Or I must write anything in 
the /etc/driver_aliases?


dmesg fragment:
Oct 12 09:22:34 thinkpot usba: [ID 912658 kern.info] USB 2.0 device 
(usb12d1,1446) operating at full speed (USB 1.x) on USB 1.10 root hub: 
device@1, usb_mid9 at bus address 2
Oct 12 09:22:34 thinkpot usba: [ID 349649 kern.info]HUAWEI 
Technology Mobile
Oct 12 09:22:34 thinkpot genunix: [ID 936769 kern.info] usb_mid9 is 
/pci@0,0/pci17aa,20aa@1a,1/device@1
Oct 12 09:22:34 thinkpot genunix: [ID 408114 kern.info] 
/pci@0,0/pci17aa,20aa@1a,1/device@1 (usb_mid9) online
Oct 12 09:22:34 thinkpot usba: [ID 912658 kern.info] USB 2.0 interface 
(usbif12d1,1446.config1.0) operating at full speed (USB 1.x) on USB 1.10 
root hub: storage@0, scsa2usb13 at bus address 2
Oct 12 09:22:34 thinkpot usba: [ID 349649 kern.info]HUAWEI 
Technology Mobile
Oct 12 09:22:34 thinkpot genunix: [ID 936769 kern.info] scsa2usb13 is 
/pci@0,0/pci17aa,20aa@1a,1/device@1/storage@0
Oct 12 09:22:34 thinkpot genunix: [ID 408114 kern.info] 
/pci@0,0/pci17aa,20aa@1a,1/device@1/storage@0 (scsa2usb13) online
Oct 12 09:22:34 thinkpot usba: [ID 912658 kern.info] USB 2.0 interface 
(usbif12d1,1446.config1.1) operating at full speed (USB 1.x) on USB 1.10 
root hub: storage@1, scsa2usb14 at bus address 2
Oct 12 09:22:34 thinkpot usba: [ID 349649 kern.info]HUAWEI 
Technology Mobile
Oct 12 09:22:34 thinkpot genunix: [ID 936769 kern.info] scsa2usb14 is 
/pci@0,0/pci17aa,20aa@1a,1/device@1/storage@1
Oct 12 09:22:34 thinkpot genunix: [ID 408114 kern.info] 
/pci@0,0/pci17aa,20aa@1a,1/device@1/storage@1 (scsa2usb14) online
Oct 12 09:22:34 thinkpot scsi: [ID 583861 kern.info] sd22 at scsa2usb14: 
target 0 lun 0
Oct 12 09:22:34 thinkpot genunix: [ID 936769 kern.info] sd22 is 
/pci@0,0/pci17aa,20aa@1a,1/device@1/storage@1/disk@0,0
Oct 12 09:22:34 thinkpot scsi: [ID 583861 kern.info] sd21 at scsa2usb13: 
target 0 lun 0
Oct 12 09:22:34 thinkpot genunix: [ID 936769 kern.info] sd21 is 
/pci@0,0/pci17aa,20aa@1a,1/device@1/storage@0/disk@0,0
Oct 12 09:22:34 thinkpot genunix: [ID 408114 kern.info] 
/pci@0,0/pci17aa,20aa@1a,1/device@1/storage@1/disk@0,0 (sd22) online
Oct 12 09:22:34 thinkpot genunix: [ID 408114 kern.info] 
/pci@0,0/pci17aa,20aa@1a,1/device@1/storage@0/disk@0,0 (sd21) online


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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Small Business Office Suite for OpenIndiana distro

2011-10-06 Thread Andrey N. Oktyabrski

On 06.10.11 19:32, ken mays wrote:

* Wine (1.3.29)

$ pfexec pkg install wine
Creating Plan \pkg: No version of library/desktop/wine can be installed:
pkg://sfe/library/desktop/wine@1.1.44,5.11-0.151.1:20110927T201821Z: 
Suitable required dependency pkg:/library/audio/mpg123 cannot be found


$ pkg publisher
PUBLISHER TYPE STATUS   URI
openindiana.org  (preferred)  origin   online 
http://pkg.openindiana.org/dev/
sfe   origin   online 
http://pkg.openindiana.org/sfe/
homeunix (non-sticky, disabled) origin   online 
http://ips.homeunix.com:11003/
sfebuild (non-sticky, disabled) origin   online 
http://staticdev.uk.openindiana.org:10003/
oi-sfe   (non-sticky, disabled) origin   online 
http://staticdev.uk.openindiana.org:10002/
kdeips-dev   (non-sticky, disabled) origin   online 
http://solaris.bionicmutton.org/pkg/4.6.0/
opensolaris.org  (non-sticky, disabled) origin   online 
http://pkg.openindiana.org/legacy/



What is wrong?

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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Small Business Office Suite for OpenIndiana distro

2011-10-06 Thread Andrey N. Oktyabrski

On 06.10.11 20:01, Peter Tribble wrote:

On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 4:57 PM, ken maysmaybird1...@yahoo.com  wrote:

Add the http://pkg.openindiana.org/sfe-encumberedpublisher.

Thank you.
But I agree with Peter: is it possible to add all dependencies in the 
openindiana.org or sfe repositories?



By it's very nature, sfe-encumbered cannot be used by all users.
Therefore it would appear to be wrong for any package in sfe
to have a dependency on a package in the encumbered repo?


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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] OpenIndiana SFE repository: Call for testers

2011-08-02 Thread Andrey N. Oktyabrski

On 02.08.11 12:05, Guido Berhoerster wrote:

without gcc libraries dependency?


That is a mainly a policy issue, for now we compile all C++
packages (including LLVM/Clang) in OI-SFE with GCC, however that
may change in the future. If it is really important to you, you
could modify the specfile and rebuild it with clang itself.

It is not very important for me, but IMHO unnecessary dependencies is evil.


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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] OpenIndiana SFE repository: Call for testers

2011-08-01 Thread Andrey N. Oktyabrski

What is wrong?

$ clang -v
ld.so.1: clang: fatal: relocation error: file /usr/bin/clang: symbol 
_ZNSt8__detail15_List_node_base7_M_hookEPS0_: referenced symbol not found

Killed

$ ldd /bin/clang
libLLVM-3.0svn.so = /usr/lib/libLLVM-3.0svn.so
libpthread.so.1 =   /lib/libpthread.so.1
libmalloc.so.1 =/usr/lib/libmalloc.so.1
libstdc++.so.6 =/opt/ipp/pkg/gcc44/lib/libstdc++.so.6
libstdc++.so.6 (GLIBCXX_3.4.15) =   (version not found)
libstdc++.so.6 (CXXABI_1.3) =   (version not found)
libgcc_s.so.1 = /opt/ipp/pkg/gcc44/lib/libgcc_s.so.1
libc.so.1 = /lib/libc.so.1
libstdc++.so.6 (GLIBCXX_3.4.15) =   (version not found)
libstdc++.so.6 (CXXABI_1.3) =   (version not found)
libm.so.2 = /lib/libm.so.2


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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] OpenIndiana SFE repository: Call for testers

2011-08-01 Thread Andrey N. Oktyabrski

On 01.08.11 22:46, Andrey N. Oktyabrski wrote:

What is wrong?

$ clang -v
ld.so.1: clang: fatal: relocation error: file /usr/bin/clang: symbol
_ZNSt8__detail15_List_node_base7_M_hookEPS0_: referenced symbol not found
Killed

$ ldd /bin/clang

...

libstdc++.so.6 = /opt/ipp/pkg/gcc44/lib/libstdc++.so.6

...

libgcc_s.so.1 = /opt/ipp/pkg/gcc44/lib/libgcc_s.so.1

Sorry :-)


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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] OpenIndiana SFE repository: Call for testers

2011-08-01 Thread Andrey N. Oktyabrski

On 01.08.11 23:07, Andrey N. Oktyabrski wrote:

On 01.08.11 22:46, Andrey N. Oktyabrski wrote:

What is wrong?

$ clang -v
ld.so.1: clang: fatal: relocation error: file /usr/bin/clang: symbol
_ZNSt8__detail15_List_node_base7_M_hookEPS0_: referenced symbol not found
Killed

$ ldd /bin/clang

...

libstdc++.so.6 = /opt/ipp/pkg/gcc44/lib/libstdc++.so.6

...

libgcc_s.so.1 = /opt/ipp/pkg/gcc44/lib/libgcc_s.so.1

Sorry :-)

With thid libraries I have the same eror :-(
libstdc++.so.6 =/usr/lib/libstdc++.so.6
libgcc_s.so.1 = /usr/lib/libgcc_s.so.1

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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] OpenIndiana SFE repository: Call for testers

2011-08-01 Thread Andrey N. Oktyabrski

On 02.08.11 00:30, Guido Berhoerster wrote:

* Guido Berhoersterg...@openindiana.org  [2011-08-01 22:24]:

* Andrey N. Oktyabrskia...@bestmx.ru  [2011-08-01 21:10]:

With these libraries I have the same eror :-(
 libstdc++.so.6 = /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.6
 libgcc_s.so.1 =  /usr/lib/libgcc_s.so.1


Please remove the GCC 4.3.2/3 packages from the opensolaris.org
publisher, it is obsolete and totally broken anyway.


Oh, after that please install runtime/gcc@4.6.1-0.151 manually,
this dependency is missing from the llvm package. We'll hopefully
fix that before releasing the first OI SFE build.
Thank you. I have removed gcc-4.3 and clang works. The gcc-4.6 was 
already installed from the sfebuild repository.


Does you compile clang without rpath? Is it possible to compile it 
without gcc libraries dependency?


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[OpenIndiana-discuss] SeaMonkey

2011-06-24 Thread Andrey N. Oktyabrski
Where I can get the latest (2.1 or 2.2-beta) version package for the 
OpenIndiana? I use 2.0b1 at the moment. It eats 3-4 times less memory 
than the Firefox+Thunderbird.


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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] [illumos-Discuss] branding for illumos/openindiana

2011-06-21 Thread Andrey N. Oktyabrski

On 21.06.11 19:29, oi-disc...@mho.nu wrote:

IcarOS?

http://www.icarosdesktop.org/

On 21.06.11 20:15, Ken Gunderson wrote:
 I like Phoenix - reborn and rising from the ashes of Sun.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doscore

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[OpenIndiana-discuss] NVIDIA driver update

2011-06-01 Thread Andrey N. Oktyabrski
Is it possible to replace the nvidia driver packages 256.44 by the 
270.41 (from the NVIDIA site) in the openindiana.org IPS repository?


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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] NVIDIA driver update

2011-06-01 Thread Andrey N. Oktyabrski

On 01.06.11 23:42, Apostolos Syropoulos wrote:

Is it possible to replace the nvidia driver packages 256.44 by the 270.41
(from the NVIDIA site) in the openindiana.org IPS repository?


Yes and I am using 270.41.06 but you need to do something like the
following to install the new driver:

$ pfexec beadm list
$ pfexec beadm create oi-nvidia
$ pfexec beadm mount oi-nvidia /mnt
$ pfexec pkg -R /mnt uninstall -r driver/graphics/nvidia
$ pfexec /bin/sh NVIDIA-Solaris-x86-270.41.06.run --extract-only
$ cd NVIDIA-Solaris-x86-270.41.06
$ pfexec pkgadd -R /mnt -d . NVDAgraphics NVDAgraphicsr
$ pfexec bootadm update-archive -R /mnt
$ pfexec beadm unmount -f oi-nvidia
$ pfexec beadm activate oi-nvidia
$ pfexec reboot -p


Thank you, I'll try this.

Anyway, pkg image-update is much more right way :-)

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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Gnome to become a Linux only project

2011-05-19 Thread Andrey N. Oktyabrski

On 05/19/11 15:23, Apostolos Syropoulos wrote:

http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_itempx=OTQ1Nw

Are they serious? I think we should seriously consider abandoning GNOME
and replace it with KDE.

No, it's time to replace it with something much more lightweight :-)
For example, the graphical environment from Syllable Desktop:
http://web.syllable.org/pages/about.html#Server

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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Some questions about OpenIndiana

2010-12-31 Thread Andrey N. Oktyabrski

On 12/31/10 03:32, Jean-Yves Avenard wrote:

Ultimately, what I'm after right now is something stable and
performant, that can read my zpool v28 and supports kernel cifs and
that I will easily be able to integrate with our LDAP / Kerberos
backend.


Why not to use this:

On 12/17/10 01:06, Alexander Sergeev wrote:
 ==
   *** OpenIndiana 134+ Stable X86, rev. 11 ***
 ==

 Hello,

 This is OpenIndiana 134+ Stable build, the build based on Nexenta NCP3
 patchset, ON stability fixes, bunch of storage related features and
 patches from OpenIndiana code base.  The aim of this release is to aid
 needs of everybody who has been waiting for OpenSolaris 2010.X and has
 been left with you-can't-use-it-in-production Solaris Express 11,
 especially those who plans to use OpenSolaris as storage server.

 This release includes the following new features and fixes:
 - ZFS zpool version 28 including 'zfs diff' and ZFS read-only pools;
 - Bug fixes and new functionality for CIFS/SMB, COMSTAR/iSCSI and NFS;
 - Several IP, TCP and FC fixes;
 - Driver updates and fixes for mptsas, bge, e1000g, elxl and rge;
 - ON build script enhancements including automatic IPS repository
creation (for developers).

 Release contents:
 - oi-134-11-x86-readme.txt - this file;
 - oi-134-11-x86.iso- Live CD;
 - oi-134-11-x86.usb- Live USB;
 - oi-134-11-x86-repo.tgz   - gzipped ON repository.

 Download links are as follows:
 - http://narod.ru/disk/1494854001/oi-134-11-x86.iso.html
 - http://narod.ru/disk/1496206001/oi-134-11-x86.usb.html
 - http://narod.ru/disk/1500811001/oi-134-11-x86-repo.tgz.html
 - http://narod.ru/disk/1557156001/oi-134-11-x86-readme.txt.html
 - http://narod.ru/disk/1557439001/MD5SUMS.html
 - http://narod.ru/disk/1557441001/SHA256SUMS.html

 Alternatively, you can download them from RoyK @ #openindiana:
 - http://karlsbakk.net/OpenIndiana/134+/b11/oi-134-11-x86.iso
 - http://karlsbakk.net/OpenIndiana/134+/b11/oi-134-11-x86.usb
 - http://karlsbakk.net/OpenIndiana/134+/b11/oi-134-11-x86-repo.tgz
 - http://karlsbakk.net/OpenIndiana/134+/b11/oi-134-11-x86-readme.txt
 - http://karlsbakk.net/OpenIndiana/134+/b11/MD5SUMS
 - http://karlsbakk.net/OpenIndiana/134+/b11/SHA256SUMS

 There are two ways to get oi_134_11 installed on your system.  You can
 either do clean installation using Live CD or Live USB above, or you
 can upgrade existing snv_134 system (snv_134b is NOT supported).

 If you wish to do latter or you want to install additional ON packages,
 like COMSTAR, you should use ON repository bundled with this release:
 - extract oi-134-11-x86-repo.tgz to your preferred location;
 - start repository: /usr/lib/pkg.depotd -drepo location  -pport
 - add local publisher as openindiana.org:
pfexec pkg set-publisher -P -O http://localhost:port/ \
  openindiana.org
 - make opensolaris.org non-sticky:
pfexec pkg set-publisher --non-sticky opensolaris.org
 - upgrade your snv_134 deployment using:
pfexec pkg image-update
 - (OR) install new ON packages.

 How to decide whether what you want to install is ON package or not?
 Easy.  If you're using oi_134_11, you haven't done what's described
 above and you get something like this when you try to install package
 --
 pkg://opensolaris.org/system/zones/brand/s...@0.5.11,5.11-0.134:2010030
 2T070706Z: This version is excluded by installed incorporation pkg://o
 penindiana.org/consolidation/osnet/osnet-incorporat...@0.5.11,5.11-0.1
 34.0.0.11:20101212T013950Z
 --
 then you want to install ON package and you should use bundled repo.

 In future there's a chance that OpenIndiana 134+ Stable repository
 will be hosted on openindiana.org if there's sufficient demand, so
 stay tuned.

 Now, couple of words about updates.  This release is intended to bring
 stability, and if any critical bugs will be found in it, I'd be happy
 to backport fixes once they're available and do additional release.

 Also, oi_134_11 is upgradeable to both Solaris 11 Express and fresh
 OpenIndiana builds, so installing this release doesn't lock you down
 either way.  In order to upgrade to S11X you should first upgrade to
 OpenSolaris b134b and then follow regular Oracle upgrade instructions.
 For OpenIndiana upgrade instructions please visit OpenIndiana site,
 they are the same as for OpenSolaris b134.

 Release is largely based on Bryan Leaman's patchset, described on
 http://wiki.openindiana.org:8080/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=4882475
 (Google: OpenIndiana Stable Build 134, if that's expired), so most of
 the credits goes to him, really.

 Patchset used to build this release is downloadable from
 http://narod.ru/disk/1500897001/oi-134-11-patches.tgz.html

 Best regards,
 Alexander 

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Fun Task - Comparing OI packages vs CentOS, Debian, Ubuntu etc

2010-10-23 Thread Andrey N. Oktyabrski

On 10/23/10 04:25, Alasdair Lumsden wrote:

There are a couple of methods of doing it, but writing spec files for
pkgbuild is probably one of the more standard methods (although I
don't find spec files that easy to put together). James O'Gorman is
working on a ports tree as an alternative for people who prefer that
route, but it is not complete yet.

Why not to use pkgsrc?

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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Fun Task - Comparing OI packages vs CentOS, Debian, Ubuntu etc

2010-10-23 Thread Andrey N. Oktyabrski

On 10/24/10 12:11, ober wrote:

Pkgsrc already builds on openindiana.
ftp://ftp.netbsd.org/misc/openindiana has the 1400 packages
that already build.

This link is wrong :-(

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