Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] about to build a new OI server - suggestions?
On 20/09/2024 2:36 am, Gordon Ross wrote: I'll plug Dan McD's very helpful blog post on this: https://kebe.com/blog/?p=502 because I followed it and have a similar setup running now. Here's mine: https://gordon-ross.blogspot.com/2024/09/home-data-center-40.html Cool, thank you. Pretty similar to my setups. cheers! Carl ___ openindiana-discuss mailing list openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org https://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
[OpenIndiana-discuss] about to build a new OI server - suggestions?
Hi, I'm about to build up a new OI server to run as a local VM host and CIFS fileserver on my LAN. I have been doing this for ~30 years now with various flavours of UNIX, but OI/OS since um, 2000 or so, when it was open sourced anyway, so I've been around, but only casually. I use, and prefer VirtualBox for my VMs, poking through the pkg repo I see that it's still there (good!) despite various pushes towards bhyve or whatever else is short-term trendy. 7.0.18 is the release in there ATM. That's reasonably current, nice! Are there any issues with the most recent build of OI installing on current generation commodity motherboards? I'm planning to do my usual; just grab a good desktop MB, throw 64GB or so of RAM into it, a couple of M.2 SSDs for the OS as a ZFS mirror, some WD Red Pro spinning rust for the VMs and some big ones for my CIFS share. In the past this has been sometimes a bit tricky to install - issues with the BIOS settings that are fiddly and a lot of trial and error (thank you Andraus for your help with these, when we had to roll our own build!). I have had one really weird issue with graphics cards, I have had to put a dummy HDMI port onto my machines so they'll boot without locking up and breaking BIOS settings(!) if there's nothing plugged into the GFX card (nVidea something basic, I don't need high res, but I do want a GUI). Wonder if that's still an issue? ___ openindiana-discuss mailing list openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org https://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] installing on 2tb disk
On 22/11/2023 8:00 pm, Gea wrote: I suppose the disk is simply bad, try another one. There is only a 2TB restriction with some older controllers ex LSI 1068 btw why do you want to use large disks for rpool as you "should" not place data onto beside the OS. Usually I use a cheap 100G+ SSD for rpool with all data on a datapool. Not the OP .. my take : SSDs are pretty unreliable in my experience, and it's getting hard to find good quality 1TB HDDs (WD Red Pros are 2TB or more these days, you can't get a 1TB anymore) But, I have had no problems with 2TB HDDs on my rpool Carl ___ openindiana-discuss mailing list openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org https://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] container with same ip
On 16/11/2023 12:47 pm, Goetz T. Fischer wrote: much thanks to all of you for everything so far but that's much more than i need. all i want is 1 zone that runs stuff which is available through the "real" nic's ip. and right now i'm facing much more trivial problems like: what's the root password of a newly installed zone? the one i use for the host os doesn't work. Is chroot still an option? It's old .. not very sexy .. But for simple things. Carl ___ openindiana-discuss mailing list openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org https://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
[OpenIndiana-discuss] Revisiting a KVM switch issue
G'day, A couple of years ago now (202109) I managed to break an install of OI Hipster on a reasonably modern desktop motherboard, when I tried to use a cheapy KVM switch on it once I put it into my data rack. The thing would not boot (or at least, I couldn't see it on the KVM switch and it didn't respond to SSH etc). It had been fine on my workbench with a screen plugged directly into the HDMI port on it. The box has an intel i5-10400F - which doesn't have graphics built in, and an NVidia 1030 PCI graphics card, with an HDMI and DVI port on it. Anyway .. I managed to get it to boot up with an HDMI "dummy" plugged into it, and haven't really looked at it since, it just sits in the rack with a few VirtualBox VM's running and it's happy. Every now and then I consider pkg updating it to the latest but get spooked by reports (and my own experience of late) of image-updates locking systems on reboot and needing to be backed out to come up. So it just runs and will do so until I replace the hardware in a couple of years. It never falters, Solaris post 2.x is, as we know, about as close to bombproof as it gets (I have, still in the shrinkwrap, a Solaris 2.0 release CD, not game to open it up in case it escapes into the wild ... the horror! I had to use Solaris 2.2 in production in the mid 90's, and it was -terrible-, it wasn't until 2.5.x that it was stable enough to be considered for real work. OMFG early SVR4 Solaris was garbage!) carl@skaro:~$ uname -a SunOS skaro 5.11 illumos-4f9241761d i86pc i386 i86pc Every now and then I get a bee in my bonnet and I think I'd like to have a KVM switch on it and its sister next to it, but am concerned that it would break again. I have a cheapy HDMI KVM switch, one of those passive ones that seem to be little more than a switch (less than a hundred bucks, it's not got much going on!). These simple, cheap ones used to work pretty well with VGA stuff, but some HDMI things get upset about them, including lightDM/Xorg on OI. So I wonder what the problem was? If there's nothing plugged in to the HDMI port, Lightdm panics and locks up the kernel, and the box needed a reconfigure of the BIOS(!) to get it going. I put it all in an email thread on this mailing list at the time. It was/is probably some bug in the NVidia driver, but that's a closed thing and we can't look into it, so it stays. So I wonder, if I got a smarter KVM switch that does proper EDID stuff, would it work in the same sense as the HDMI dummy plug and the box would survive with a KVM switch attached? Would make occasional touching of the console a lot easier! A decent one that mentions EDID in its doco is around $500 AUD or so for a two port'er so they're not cheap, anyone here used one and knows if it works? Thank you, Carl ___ openindiana-discuss mailing list openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org https://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] VirtualBox status? -- please test 6.1.46
On 20/09/2023 5:01 pm, Stephan Althaus wrote: On 9/8/23 09:28, Carsten Grzemba via openindiana-discuss wrote: I have uploaded a package 6.1.46 on http://pkg.toc.de/userland which have passed my smoke tests. Please test and report results. Hello Carsten! Thanks for your efforts, virtualbox GUI is working. I also had problems using the newest nvidia driver with virtualbox GUI and did stay with 515 until now, 535 is working with virtualbox today. So everything is fine now. Great, I'll bump one of my servers and see how it goes! Thank you Carl ___ openindiana-discuss mailing list openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org https://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] VirtualBox status?
On 25/08/2023 9:17 pm, Stephan Althaus wrote: YES, the GUI still doesn't work, HEADLESS does. Some (x11-)libs are not gcc-10 yet.. (i had at least one lib where 'gmake test' did have no positive tests :-/) Is this now a "Wait for us to fix it" issue? I don't have the skill or resources (AFAIK) to be involved in recompiling/porting to gcc-10. For those who need the gui, use pkg://openindiana.org/system/virtualbox@6.1.40-2022.0.0.0:20221108T082551Z pfexec pkg install pkg://openindiana.org/system/virtualbox@6.1.40-2022.0.0.0:20221108T082551Z pfexec pkg freeze virtualbox Would "freeze" break later updates? VB is up to 7.0.10 now, so this one's lagging a bit. Thank you Carl ___ openindiana-discuss mailing list openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org https://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
[OpenIndiana-discuss] VirtualBox status?
Hey everyone, Before I break a server .. Is VirtualBox running ok on current OI? Last I saw, Russell was having trouble with it in July. Thank you! Carl ___ openindiana-discuss mailing list openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org https://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] list archives?
On 22/07/2023 3:31 am, Till Wegmüller wrote: On 21.07.23 02:22, Carl Brewer wrote: Given the apparent reluctance to maintain this mailing list (despite the benefits - open, it's an automagic archive, it's enough of a barrier to entry to stop modern spammers but everyone has email) etc etc What -should- we be using to report issues & help each other? I would suggest lemmy https://join-lemmy.org/ Thank you Till, which instance/server? ___ openindiana-discuss mailing list openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org https://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] list archives?
Given the apparent reluctance to maintain this mailing list (despite the benefits - open, it's an automagic archive, it's enough of a barrier to entry to stop modern spammers but everyone has email) etc etc What -should- we be using to report issues & help each other? Carl ___ openindiana-discuss mailing list openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org https://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Warning: icu upgrade immanent
On 11/06/2023 12:15 am, Andreas Wacknitz wrote: Am 09.06.23 um 16:56 schrieb Andreas Wacknitz: I will start to merge an icu upgrade soon. That will make it necessary to rebuild a lot of other packages. Until everything has been rebuilt it is not safe to update your installation. A notice will be sent when the updates are through. Regards Andreas ___ openindiana-discuss mailing list openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org https://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss The upgrade of ICU is finished. All dependent packages have been rebuilt and it should now be safe again to update systems. Thank you! Carl ___ openindiana-discuss mailing list openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org https://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] OI without a console?
On 11/05/2023 3:05 pm, Stephan Althaus wrote: On 5/10/23 22:42, Gary Mills wrote: On Mon, May 08, 2023 at 10:31:09AM -0500, Gary Mills wrote: Is anybody running OI on a computer that does not have a console? I have a system that I installed with the GUI image, and with an HDMI console and USB keyboard and mouse. Now I'd like to use this system without all of them. I have another question. Will it help to have OI boot without the X11 screen? How do I accomplish that? The text screen will be adequate for most of what I need to do. Hello! Don't know if it will help (i would not believe so). Disable the X11 login screen and you're done: # svcadm disable lightdm If you do this, the requirement for using an HDMI dummy plug goes away too Carl ___ openindiana-discuss mailing list openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org https://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] OI without a console?
On 11/05/2023 6:42 am, Gary Mills wrote: On Mon, May 08, 2023 at 10:31:09AM -0500, Gary Mills wrote: Is anybody running OI on a computer that does not have a console? I have a system that I installed with the GUI image, and with an HDMI console and USB keyboard and mouse. Now I'd like to use this system without all of them. I have another question. Will it help to have OI boot without the X11 screen? How do I accomplish that? The text screen will be adequate for most of what I need to do. You can turn off X11 easily enough, be aware that, at least in my experience, the text screen is painfully slow! Not an issue if all you do is ssh into the box. ___ openindiana-discuss mailing list openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org https://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] list archives?
On 9/05/2023 5:43 pm, Till Wegmüller wrote: Hi, Yeah sorry about that. I wanted to change the lists host as to not conflict with GitHub pages anymore but alas GNU mailman is not wanting me to do that. I'll have to check how to change anything there. Personally I would prefer to migrate to topicbox like all other distros did. But we will have to see. For now use https://www.mail-archive.com/ as archive. Thank you Till, much appreciated! Carl ___ openindiana-discuss mailing list openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org https://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] OI without a console?
On 9/05/2023 4:07 pm, Carl Brewer wrote: The old thread about this has the subject : "A KVM switch broke my server?! Lightdm is panic'ing the kernel" It should be in the archive somewhere. Here : https://www.mail-archive.com/openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org/msg25721.html Carl ___ openindiana-discuss mailing list openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org https://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] list archives?
On 9/05/2023 4:08 pm, Espen Martinsen wrote: ... as found in the archive :-) https://www.mail-archive.com/openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org/ That'll do it. Maybe whomever runs the list, can fix the footer to have that in it? openindiana-discuss mailing list openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org https://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss That's wrong! Carl ___ openindiana-discuss mailing list openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org https://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] OI without a console?
The old thread about this has the subject : "A KVM switch broke my server?! Lightdm is panic'ing the kernel" It should be in the archive somewhere. Carl ___ openindiana-discuss mailing list openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org https://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] OI without a console?
On 9/05/2023 11:38 am, Gary Mills wrote: On Tue, May 09, 2023 at 08:17:42AM +1000, Carl Brewer wrote: Three of them. Have been running OI since it was OS, oh, almost 20 years now? One of my three is about that old too. Rock solid. I found I had to use an HDMI "dummy" to get the newer ones to boot. I wondered if an HDMI console was somehow special. The system I'm using has only HDMI and Display Port connectors for a monitor. It has no VGA connector. I only found out after setting a new (2 years ago now) generic consumer PC motherboard up as a server, doing all the setup etc on a bench with an HDMI monitor, then popping it in a rack with a KVM switch and it would not boot. The KVM switch didn't provide enough info to the graphics port for it to start cleanly. It would just hang. I did write about it here on this list at the time, but the archive is AWOL and I can't find my notes. Quite annoying! Maybe someone on this list knows what sort of KVM switch might provide enough for a HDMI card to behave at boot time? I don't know the terminology, so search engines are not being kind! I'd really like to be able to use one. Carl ___ openindiana-discuss mailing list openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org https://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
[OpenIndiana-discuss] list archives?
Hey, The link at the bottom of these emails, https://www.openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss Goes to a 404 from Github. Any clues as to where I can get the archive from now? Carl ___ openindiana-discuss mailing list openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org https://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] OI without a console?
On 9/05/2023 1:31 am, Gary Mills wrote: Is anybody running OI on a computer that does not have a console? I have a system that I installed with the GUI image, and with an HDMI console and USB keyboard and mouse. Now I'd like to use this system without all of them. Three of them. Have been running OI since it was OS, oh, almost 20 years now? One of my three is about that old too. Rock solid. I found I had to use an HDMI "dummy" to get the newer ones to boot. One of these : https://core-electronics.com.au/hdmi-dummy-plug.html Otherwise it would lock up OI at boot-time. YMMV. Can I just disconnect them? Will OI boot fully without a console? Yes, but ... Can I attach a console later, if I happen to need it? Maybe ... I've had mixed experiences. Carl ___ openindiana-discuss mailing list openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org https://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] What would the steps be needed to host a website on OpenIndiana?
On 23/02/2023 9:58 am, Mike Carroll wrote: That is a very true statement that it ranges from simple to complex. I am just really looking for a static site setup to host a personal site with a domain that I purchased. Just HTML and CSS, and not much more than that-so security is essential but with little attack surface. BIND is bundled up, as is apache, so you don't need a database or PHP if it's just static HTML. ___ openindiana-discuss mailing list openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org https://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] What would the steps be needed to host a website on OpenIndiana?
On 23/02/2023 6:17 am, Mike Carroll wrote: I know I need the necessary software life php, mariadb, etc. I am specifically not sure where to start looking for the information on nameservers and stuff. Given that to host a website could mean anything from a basic flat HTML server (eg Apache, nginx etc) through to a whole complex CMS, that's a pretty big question! You don't need to host a DNS server to host a website. Same with email. You might *want* to, but you don't *have* to. OI, like every UNIX variant since the 1980's, has a built in DNS server (BIND), an email server (Sendmail or Postfix), mail clients (mailx), bundled up IMAP and POP servers (cyrus, dovecot), a web server (apache) and so on. If you want to use PHP (urgh ...) or some other language to make smarts, they're bundled up too. Carl ___ openindiana-discuss mailing list openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org https://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Virtualbox 7.0.4?
On 16/01/2023 3:48 am, Till Wegmüller wrote: Hi Carl If you can at least check the compile process in [0] or even update the makefile then we can easily make the PR to update it. I can also lead you through the process on IRC, Matrix or Discord or here on mail. I'll get some time to work on it tomorrow, thank you Greeting Till [0] https://github.com/OpenIndiana/oi-userland/tree/ced366e8e9a0a065ec50a3b5e08ae4415df9b9b8/components/sysutils/virtualbox On 15.01.23 03:00, Carl Brewer wrote: Hey, Virtualbox 7 was released not long ago, now at 7.0.4, in oi-userland it's 6.1.40. Anything I can do to help get it going? ___ openindiana-discuss mailing list openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org https://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss ___ openindiana-discuss mailing list openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org https://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss ___ openindiana-discuss mailing list openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org https://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
[OpenIndiana-discuss] Virtualbox 7.0.4?
Hey, Virtualbox 7 was released not long ago, now at 7.0.4, in oi-userland it's 6.1.40. Anything I can do to help get it going? ___ openindiana-discuss mailing list openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org https://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] VirtualBox Client Extensions Broken
On 6/10/2022 7:06 pm, david allan finch wrote: On 10/6/22 07:51, Predrag Zečević via openindiana-discuss wrote: The reference into VB's git seems to suggest that it was done in January? https://github.com/omniosorg/omnios-extra/pull/921 I'm not seeing any issues with VB 6.1.38 on my OI servers, with a build from a week ago, but I'm not using shared folders at all. Host is OI (updated yesterday) and shared folders (to Win Guest) works: ; pkg list virtualbox NAME (PUBLISHER) VERSION IFO system/virtualbox 6.1.38-2022.0.0.0 i-- Running the update I see: david@hal9k:~$ sudo pkg update pkg: 0/1 catalogs successfully updated: 1: Invalid contentpath /var/pkg/cache/incoming-1975/update.20221006T06Z.C: CatalogPart failed validation: The signature data for the '/var/pkg/cache/incoming-1975/update.20221006T06Z.C' catalog file is not valid.. (happened 4 times) 2: Invalid contentpath /var/pkg/cache/incoming-1975/update.20221006T07Z.C: CatalogPart failed validation: The signature data for the '/var/pkg/cache/incoming-1975/update.20221006T07Z.C' catalog file is not valid.. (happened 4 times) It's some issue with the distribution server? Aurélien's looking into it. ___ openindiana-discuss mailing list openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org https://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] VirtualBox Client Extensions Broken
On 5/10/2022 11:22 pm, Joshua M. Clulow via openindiana-discuss wrote: On Wed, Oct 5, 2022, 00:28 david allan finch wrote: Not quite sure what has broken it but, I installed the latest version of VirtualBox 6.1.38 and updated the client extension into my OpenIndiana VM client (it was the last build 2021Oct from the ISO). Around the same time I did a pkg update to the latest changes. Since then the Shared Folders have not worked. (The host is a windows 11 box there was also an microsoft update on that day which I initially wondered about). On boot of the VM I now see undefined symbol 'removectx' and 'installctx' from /usr/kernel/drv/smd64/vboxguest. I believe that's related to: https://www.illumos.org/issues/13917 The reference into VB's git seems to suggest that it was done in January? https://github.com/omniosorg/omnios-extra/pull/921 I'm not seeing any issues with VB 6.1.38 on my OI servers, with a build from a week ago, but I'm not using shared folders at all. ___ openindiana-discuss mailing list openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org https://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] borg missing msgpack dependency?
On 4/10/2022 6:33 am, Marcel Telka wrote: On Fri, Sep 30, 2022 at 11:18:54PM +1000, Carl Brewer wrote: I'd love to send a PR, where's how to do it documented? Just look at https://github.com/OpenIndiana/oi-userland and create usual github PR there. I'm sorry, I have no idea of how to do that. My experience with git is basically "WTF? Who broke subversion this badly?!". ___ openindiana-discuss mailing list openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org https://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] borg missing msgpack dependency?
On 29/09/2022 4:50 pm, Marcel Telka wrote: On Tue, Sep 27, 2022 at 12:29:31AM +1000, Carl Brewer wrote: I just bumped a ~12 month old OI Hipster that had Borg installed on it to the current pkg contents. Ran borg, saw this : root@hog:/slow/backups# borg Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/lib/python3.9/vendor-packages/borg/archiver.py", line 38, in from . import helpers File "/usr/lib/python3.9/vendor-packages/borg/helpers/__init__.py", line 14, in from .misc import * # NOQA File "/usr/lib/python3.9/vendor-packages/borg/helpers/misc.py", line 16, in from . import msgpack File "/usr/lib/python3.9/vendor-packages/borg/helpers/msgpack.py", line 19, in from msgpack import Packer as mp_Packer ModuleNotFoundError: No module named 'msgpack' pkg install python/msgpack fixes it Is this an artifact of recent changes to Python versions that didn't quite make a dependency list? I do not think this is something recent because even backup/borg@1.2.0 built 5 months ago does not depend on msgpack. PRs are welcome. I'd love to send a PR, where's how to do it documented? I just bumped my other OI server from an ~12 month old BE to one from ~24 hrs ago. All good - thank you to whomever updated VirtualBox! Carl ___ openindiana-discuss mailing list openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org https://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Dell UEFI BIOS update and OpenIndiana
On 27/09/2022 6:47 pm, s...@pandora.be wrote: The Dell UEFI BIOS 1.17 for Dell Precision seems to work fine for me (UEFI) with Secure Boot disabled (which I think is the default for Dell Precision). Is someone keeping a list of supported / tested BIOS firmware versions ? For me Dell BIOS 1.17 is reported in OpenIndiana as: # prtdiag -v | head System Configuration: Dell Inc. Precision 3640 Tower BIOS Configuration: Dell Inc. 1.17.0 08/12/2022 Processor Sockets Version Location Tag -- Intel(R) Core(TM) i3-10100 CPU @ 3.60GHz Perhaps there could be a specific documentation page for community provided tested BIOS versions. Once upon a time there was a HCL, but it seems to be long dead. My BIOS's : root@hog:/slow/backups/VMs# prtdiag -v | head System Configuration: Gigabyte Technology Co., Ltd. H370M-D3H BIOS Configuration: American Megatrends Inc. F2 02/13/2018 Processor Sockets Version Location Tag -- Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-8400 CPU @ 2.80GHz U3E1 root@skaro:/slow/backups/VMs# prtdiag -v | head System Configuration: Gigabyte Technology Co., Ltd. B460MAORUSPRO BIOS Configuration: American Megatrends Inc. F4 08/28/2020 Processor Sockets Version Location Tag -- Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-10400F CPU @ 2.90GHz U3E1 And one that's too old for prtdiag! : carl@hostie:~# prtdiag -v | head prtdiag: failed to open SMBIOS: System does not export an SMBIOS table carl@hostie:~# ___ openindiana-discuss mailing list openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org https://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
[OpenIndiana-discuss] borg missing msgpack dependency?
I just bumped a ~12 month old OI Hipster that had Borg installed on it to the current pkg contents. Ran borg, saw this : root@hog:/slow/backups# borg Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/lib/python3.9/vendor-packages/borg/archiver.py", line 38, in from . import helpers File "/usr/lib/python3.9/vendor-packages/borg/helpers/__init__.py", line 14, in from .misc import * # NOQA File "/usr/lib/python3.9/vendor-packages/borg/helpers/misc.py", line 16, in from . import msgpack File "/usr/lib/python3.9/vendor-packages/borg/helpers/msgpack.py", line 19, in from msgpack import Packer as mp_Packer ModuleNotFoundError: No module named 'msgpack' pkg install python/msgpack fixes it Is this an artifact of recent changes to Python versions that didn't quite make a dependency list? ___ openindiana-discuss mailing list openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org https://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] After locked up zpool scrub, BIOS not recognizing HDDs to boot
On 27/09/2022 12:17 am, Toomas Soome via openindiana-discuss wrote: On 26. Sep 2022, at 16:41, Carl Brewer wrote: On 26/09/2022 9:13 pm, Carl Brewer wrote: To add to the list of Heisenbugs It works. I pulled it out of my rack, set it up on a table, and the BIOS found all 5 HDDs and was happy to use them to boot. Erm?! The only thing that happened, was ~10 mins of downtime and an HDMI instead of VGA monitor. Some weird BIOS thing? Some weird race condition with BIOS timing and HDDs spinning up? It's working now, back in the rack and ok. Until next time?! I’d suggest to check for firmware update. Yeah, I'll check it out, thank you for your help! Carl ___ openindiana-discuss mailing list openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org https://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] After locked up zpool scrub, BIOS not recognizing HDDs to boot
On 26/09/2022 9:42 pm, Toomas Soome via openindiana-discuss wrote: Is this UEFI boot or BIOS boot? If it is UEFI boot, you need to make sure the secure boot is disabled - we do not support it. Secure boot was confirmed as disabled. I think, and this box did this a long time ago, similar/same problem, that it's a race condition on startup of drives and the BIOS starting. Sometimes it works ... no particular reason I can find for why. ___ openindiana-discuss mailing list openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org https://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] After locked up zpool scrub, BIOS not recognizing HDDs to boot
On 26/09/2022 9:13 pm, Carl Brewer wrote: To add to the list of Heisenbugs It works. I pulled it out of my rack, set it up on a table, and the BIOS found all 5 HDDs and was happy to use them to boot. Erm?! The only thing that happened, was ~10 mins of downtime and an HDMI instead of VGA monitor. Some weird BIOS thing? Some weird race condition with BIOS timing and HDDs spinning up? It's working now, back in the rack and ok. Until next time?! ___ openindiana-discuss mailing list openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org https://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] After locked up zpool scrub, BIOS not recognizing HDDs to boot
On 26/09/2022 4:41 pm, Toomas Soome via openindiana-discuss wrote: This is what I've just done : jack@openindiana:/jack$ su - Password: The illumos Project illumos-bdc24928e6 August 2021 root@openindiana:~# root@openindiana:~# root@openindiana:~# root@openindiana:~# zpool status no pools available root@openindiana:~# zpool import rpool root@openindiana:~# bootadm install-bootloader -P rpool root@openindiana:~# zpool export rpool root@openindiana:~# root@openindiana:~# root@openindiana:~# zpool status no pools available root@openindiana:~# init 5 No error messages. But, it's just going straight to the BIOS page at boot time. These newer Gigabyte BIOS setup pages are a nightmare to navigate to find what the settings are. I tried it with -f set as well : The illumos Project illumos-bdc24928e6 August 2021 root@openindiana:~# zpool status no pools available root@openindiana:~# zpool import rpool root@openindiana:~# bootadm install-bootloader -f -P rpool root@openindiana:~# zpool export rpool Also no luck. I'm a bit stumped. ___ openindiana-discuss mailing list openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org https://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] After locked up zpool scrub, BIOS not recognizing HDDs to boot
On 25/09/2022 6:59 pm, Toomas Soome via openindiana-discuss wrote: On 25. Sep 2022, at 02:33, Carl Brewer wrote: I have a ~3 year old PC, generic motherboard, OI hipster 'something', that last night, I had to force a reboot on, because a zpool scrub was jammed up and nothing would kill it. The scrub was on a raidz pool, not the boot drives, so I figured it would probably be ok. I was wrong! Assuming up to date system, this *may* indicate issue related to disk controller. It's possible, but I think pretty unlikely. When I booted it off the USB drive, I could import all the existing zpools - that's how I rescued the VirtualBox VDI's and got them up quickly. Any hints for how to reinstall a boot environment onto an existing zfs mirror? If I have to do a full reinstall onto it, that's not a total disaster, I got what I needed off it, but it would be interesting to do. I haven't yet gone through the BIOS settings to be certain it's not some stupid BIOS default around UEFI or something, but I didn't change the BIOS myself, I suspect that it isn't the problem. With 3 years old, was it actually using UEFI or BIOS boot? If firmware does not recognize disk as bootable, it may suggest that FAT32 in ESP is damaged or for BIOS, MBR signature is bad or like. In any case, it should not require reinstall, bootadm install-bootloader -f might be enough. I'm about to pull it out of my racks and get it on a desk and work on it, I'll try that first, thank you - do I need to do it to both drives in the zpool mirror, or does mirroring take care of that for me? If you still do want to reinstall, openindiana installer does provide option to use existing pool on very first screen (press F5). However, that option will leave some manual work for you (creating users etc). The machine has just the one user, so that's an easy path. All it does is host some VirtualBox guests. I want to update to the latest OI anyway, so not unhappy if I have to go this way. Thank you Carl ___ openindiana-discuss mailing list openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org https://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
[OpenIndiana-discuss] After locked up zpool scrub, BIOS not recognizing HDDs to boot
I have a ~3 year old PC, generic motherboard, OI hipster 'something', that last night, I had to force a reboot on, because a zpool scrub was jammed up and nothing would kill it. The scrub was on a raidz pool, not the boot drives, so I figured it would probably be ok. I was wrong! On reboot, the motherboard's BIOS wasn't seeing the drives as a boot option - it could see them (there's 5, 2 mirrored for zpool, and a raidz array of 3), but wouldn't see them as boot options. It was just jumping straight to the BIOS setup screen at boot-time. A quick poke around in the BIOS confirmed that the BIOS could, at least, see the 5 drives in the box. Then I had to get stuff running, so I didn't have the luxury of time to muck about too much with it. I booted it off a USB drive and could zpool import them ok, so I copied off the stuff I needed, a couple of VirtualBox VM's, but now I'd like to recover the machine if possible. I have a Borg backup of the bits I needed too, so this wasn't a complete disaster! Any hints for how to reinstall a boot environment onto an existing zfs mirror? If I have to do a full reinstall onto it, that's not a total disaster, I got what I needed off it, but it would be interesting to do. I haven't yet gone through the BIOS settings to be certain it's not some stupid BIOS default around UEFI or something, but I didn't change the BIOS myself, I suspect that it isn't the problem. ___ openindiana-discuss mailing list openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org https://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] SciPy compilation problem fixed
On 15/05/2022 7:34 pm, Apostolos Syropoulos via openindiana-discuss wrote: Please see: https://github.com/scipy/scipy/issues/15203 When they said it was a new O/S ... um ... direct lineage to SunOS 5.0, 1980's. "new" heh! Carl ___ openindiana-discuss mailing list openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org https://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] SciPy compilation problem fixed
On 15/05/2022 7:34 pm, Apostolos Syropoulos via openindiana-discuss wrote: Please see: https://github.com/scipy/scipy/issues/15203 Nice! ___ openindiana-discuss mailing list openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org https://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] services dependency cycle
On 8/05/2022 2:16 am, Till Wegmueller wrote: Thank you very much. The problem with the live media seems to be the modifications to the services during building as it's special. On installed systems it's metainit. So we can note that here for the future and know what it it. Also you can look into /etc/svc/volatile/svc.startd.log and see all the services involved in the dependency cycle. Hints as to what exactly to do? ___ openindiana-discuss mailing list openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org https://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] services dependency cycle
HTH Carl root@dumper:/export/backups/fw/fs/home/private# svcs -l svc:/system/filesystem/usr:default fmri svc:/system/filesystem/usr:default name read/write root file systems mounts enabled true stateonline next_state none state_time April 22, 2022 at 06:26:19 AM AEST logfile /var/svc/log/system-filesystem-usr:default.log restartersvc:/system/svc/restarter:default dependency require_all/none svc:/system/boot-archive (online) dependency optional_all/none svc:/system/scheduler (online) root@dumper:/export/backups/fw/fs/home/private# svcs -l svc:/system/filesystem/minimal:default fmri svc:/system/filesystem/minimal:default name minimal file system mounts enabled true stateonline next_state none state_time April 22, 2022 at 06:26:20 AM AEST logfile /var/svc/log/system-filesystem-minimal:default.log restartersvc:/system/svc/restarter:default dependency require_all/none svc:/system/filesystem/usr (online) dependency require_all/none svc:/system/device/local (online) root@dumper:/export/backups/fw/fs/home/private# svcs -l svc:/system/device/local:default fmri svc:/system/device/local:default name standard device configuration. enabled true stateonline next_state none state_time April 22, 2022 at 06:26:19 AM AEST logfile /var/svc/log/system-device-local:default.log restartersvc:/system/svc/restarter:default dependency require_all/none svc:/system/filesystem/usr (online) dependency require_all/none svc:/network/datalink-management (online) root@dumper:/export/backups/fw/fs/home/private# # grep -A 3 -B 6 -R 'system/filesystem/usr' /lib/svc/manifest/ /lib/svc/manifest/application/print/server.xml- /lib/svc/manifest/application/print/server.xml- /lib/svc/manifest/application/print/server.xml: value='svc:/system/filesystem/usr'/> /lib/svc/manifest/application/print/server.xml- /lib/svc/manifest/application/print/server.xml- /lib/svc/manifest/application/print/server.xml- /lib/svc/manifest/application/ipmidetectd.xml- name='filesystem-usr' /lib/svc/manifest/application/ipmidetectd.xml- grouping='require_all' /lib/svc/manifest/application/ipmidetectd.xml- restart_on='none' /lib/svc/manifest/application/ipmidetectd.xml- type='service'> /lib/svc/manifest/application/ipmidetectd.xml- /lib/svc/manifest/application/ipmidetectd.xml: value='svc:/system/filesystem/usr:default'/> /lib/svc/manifest/application/ipmidetectd.xml- /lib/svc/manifest/application/ipmidetectd.xml- /lib/svc/manifest/application/ipmidetectd.xml- /lib/svc/manifest/system/filesystem/usr-fs.xml- /lib/svc/manifest/system/filesystem/usr-fs.xml-type='manifest' name='SUNWcsr:filesystem-usr'> /lib/svc/manifest/system/filesystem/usr-fs.xml- /lib/svc/manifest/system/filesystem/usr-fs.xml- /lib/svc/manifest/system/filesystem/usr-fs.xml- -- /lib/svc/manifest/network/network-ipqos.xml- /lib/svc/manifest/network/network-ipqos.xml-/lib/svc/manifest/network/network-ipqos.xml- grouping='require_all' /lib/svc/manifest/network/network-ipqos.xml-restart_on='none' /lib/svc/manifest/network/network-ipqos.xml-type='service'> /lib/svc/manifest/network/network-ipqos.xml:value='svc:/system/filesystem/usr' /> /lib/svc/manifest/network/network-ipqos.xml- /lib/svc/manifest/network/network-ipqos.xml- /lib/svc/manifest/network/network-ipqos.xml-/lib/svc/manifest/network/ipsec/ipsecalgs.xml- grouping='require_all' /lib/svc/manifest/network/ipsec/ipsecalgs.xml- type='service' /lib/svc/manifest/network/ipsec/ipsecalgs.xml- restart_on='error'> /lib/svc/manifest/network/ipsec/ipsecalgs.xml: value='svc:/system/filesystem/usr' /> /lib/svc/manifest/network/ipsec/ipsecalgs.xml- /lib/svc/manifest/network/ipsec/ipsecalgs.xml- /lib/svc/manifest/network/ipsec/ipsecalgs.xml- /lib/svc/manifest/network/network-routing-setup.xml- /lib/svc/manifest/network/network-routing-setup.xml-/lib/svc/manifest/network/network-routing-setup.xml- name='filesystem' /lib/svc/manifest/network/network-routing-setup.xml- grouping='require_all' /lib/svc/manifest/network/network-routing-setup.xml- restart_on='none' /lib/svc/manifest/network/network-routing-setup.xml- type='service'> /lib/svc/manifest/network/network-routing-setup.xml: /lib/svc/manifest/network/network-routing-setup.xml- /lib/svc/manifest/network/network-routing-setup.xml- /lib/svc/manifest/network/network-routing-setup.xml- /lib/svc/manifest/network/network-routing-setup.xml-/lib/svc/manifest/network/network-routing-setup.xml- name='filesystem' /lib/svc/manifest/network/network-routing-setup.xml- grouping='require_all' /lib/svc/manifest/network/network-routing-setup.xml- restart_on='none' /lib/svc/manifest/network/network-routing-setup.xml- type='service'> /lib/svc/manifest/network/network-routing-setup.xml: /lib/svc/manifest/network/netw
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] services dependency cycle
On 6/05/2022 7:55 am, Gary Mills wrote: On Thu, May 05, 2022 at 09:43:40PM +0200, Stephan Althaus wrote: Sorry, i don't have a system with a BE that contains the service metainit, i tried several.. i looked into some snapshots where i did find a log but not the manifest.. Maybe someone else has a system with the service metainit present. It think was disabled on my broken setup btw. I have one: $ svcs -a | grep meta disabled Apr_23 svc:/system/metainit:default I'm running a BE dated 2021-08-30 . I have one as well : # beadm list BE Active Mountpoint Space Policy Created oi20211122 - - 12.89M static 2021-11-22 08:50 oi20211130 - - 13.27M static 2021-11-30 13:10 oi20211207 - - 11.01M static 2021-12-07 07:07 oi20220123 - - 15.71M static 2022-01-23 11:09 oi20220321 NR / 30.41G static 2022-03-21 20:09 root@dumper# svcs -a | grep meta maintenanceApr_22 svc:/system/metainit:default root@dumper:/export/backups/fw/fs/home/private# This machine would not come up after a pkg image-update about 3 weeks ago, so I backed it out to this BE and it was ok The only dependency seems to be svc:/system/identity:node . ___ openindiana-discuss mailing list openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org https://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] OI server failed overnight - some help restoring it!
On 21/04/2022 6:06 pm, Udo Grabowski (IMK) wrote: On 21/04/2022 06:56, Carl Brewer wrote: ... I've got an OI box that's been running for 11 years, totally bombproof. I would recommend to check the onboard battery (or batteries ?). Maybe your just loosing the BIOS content each time the server goes off. With that old box, it's not really in any production anymore, it's just a LAN fileserver that I've been too lazy to put offline - partially because it's nice to have such an old box still running :) cheers Carl ___ openindiana-discuss mailing list openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org https://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] OI server failed overnight - some help restoring it!
On 21/04/2022 2:53 pm, Stephan Althaus wrote: Glad you have your system running again! Me too! As you might know in the meantime, these are hints for working with a non-starting system: zpool import shows all your pools on a boot with an USB image zpool import rpool beadm list beadm mount .. bootadm install-bootloader -M -f -P rpool It is always a good idea to be prepared for such 'events' and have a booklet with hints and maybe tried out some bad scenarios with a vm... i am not prepared :-/ I have been a bit complacent. I've got an OI box that's been running for 11 years, totally bombproof. Hoping the newer releases are as stable. Thanks! Carl ___ openindiana-discuss mailing list openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org https://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] OI server failed overnight - some help restoring it!
On 21/04/2022 9:35 am, Carl Brewer wrote: G'day, I have an OI server from ~2 years or so ago that went down overnight - it has 5 HDDs, 2 as a ZFS mirror (root) and 3 as a ZFS raidz array. I can see all 5 drives when I boot off an OI USB boot image, but I can't see anything more than the output from format, which sees that all 5 exist. zfs list etc don't show me anything Is there a way to try and mount these drives onto the USB boot image and inspect them? Maybe I have a corrupted boot block or something? As per another email, I think this ended up being a dying power supply not providing enough grunt to spin up 5 drives in time. ___ openindiana-discuss mailing list openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org https://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] help restoring a boot block?
On 21/04/2022 10:48 am, Carl Brewer wrote: My OI server fell over last night, for reasons unknown, and now the BIOS doesn't see any boot devices. I booted it off an OI USB drive, and I can see and mount the zpools, so they're ok (at least superficially) using zpool import -ad /dev/dsk I have 2 zpools, a zfs mirror for root and a zfs zpool tank. Both seem to be intact, it's just that the BIOS doesn't see a boot device. I've poked around at the BIOS trying to make sure it's in the right mode, it can see the drives when I look at its SATA config. Maybe the BIOS got upset at reboot - I don't know. But - I'd really like to get the machine back up and running, is there a way to check if the boot blocks on the mirrored rpool are ok? Well, I got it back up, it seems that perhaps it was an iffy power supply, which may not have been spinning the drives up before the BIOS went looking for them. ___ openindiana-discuss mailing list openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org https://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
[OpenIndiana-discuss] help restoring a boot block?
My OI server fell over last night, for reasons unknown, and now the BIOS doesn't see any boot devices. I booted it off an OI USB drive, and I can see and mount the zpools, so they're ok (at least superficially) using zpool import -ad /dev/dsk I have 2 zpools, a zfs mirror for root and a zfs zpool tank. Both seem to be intact, it's just that the BIOS doesn't see a boot device. I've poked around at the BIOS trying to make sure it's in the right mode, it can see the drives when I look at its SATA config. Maybe the BIOS got upset at reboot - I don't know. But - I'd really like to get the machine back up and running, is there a way to check if the boot blocks on the mirrored rpool are ok? Thanks! Carl ___ openindiana-discuss mailing list openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org https://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
[OpenIndiana-discuss] OI server failed overnight - some help restoring it!
G'day, I have an OI server from ~2 years or so ago that went down overnight - it has 5 HDDs, 2 as a ZFS mirror (root) and 3 as a ZFS raidz array. I can see all 5 drives when I boot off an OI USB boot image, but I can't see anything more than the output from format, which sees that all 5 exist. zfs list etc don't show me anything Is there a way to try and mount these drives onto the USB boot image and inspect them? Maybe I have a corrupted boot block or something? Thank you Carl ___ openindiana-discuss mailing list openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org https://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] OI Hipster becomes unreachable over network after a certain length of uptime
On 21/12/2021 12:47 pm, Judah Richardson wrote: I've been having an odd problem over the past few months in which my OI Hipster installation becomes unreachable over the network after a certain length of uptime. I haven't been able to determine exactly what this length is, but I usually become aware of it when restic jobs that use that machine as a repo start failing. What version of OI? I have an old one that drops off the net after a while, running : SunOS hostie 5.11 illumos-5d539a8 i86pc i386 i86pc Solaris That's from : oi151a8-dev NR / 18.1G static 2013-08-12 22:58 It seemed to be related to traffic, some counter somewhere overflowing - since I took a bunch of Virtualbox VM's off it, it's been a lot more connectable. Now it's just a LAN fileserver. It's gone from losing network once every week or two, to, I can't remember when it last lost network. Haven't had any problems with newer OI's. As a workaround, I had a script that rebooted it when it couldn't get a ping response. Not ideal, but it worked! Carl ___ openindiana-discuss mailing list openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org https://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] CDE...
On 20/12/2021 1:55 pm, Reginald Beardsley via openindiana-discuss wrote: The more options the better :) In the old days, of SunOS 4.x and 5.x default admin task on setup rm -rf /usr/openwin install X11R5 :) Done. Then you could get some work done! ___ openindiana-discuss mailing list openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org https://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] weird network issue, choosing a default interface
On 8/12/2021 10:21 am, Tim Mooney via openindiana-discuss wrote: I had kind of assumed you had ruled out an incorrect subnet mask as the source of the issue, Me too! but I'm glad you found it and have things fixed up! Yes, thank you :) Carl ___ openindiana-discuss mailing list openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org https://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] weird network issue, choosing a default interface
G'day Tim, On 8/12/2021 9:41 am, Tim Mooney via openindiana-discuss wrote: I have a dual-homed OI workstation with the 2nd NIC on a non-routeable private network too, and I have IPv6-specific routing issues every time the workstation is rebooted. My issues are (I think) coming because of OI's in.ndpd, the IPv6 Neighbor Discovery protocol daemon. Your issues are potentially easier, though. 1) are you running in.routed? 2) are you using nwam or statically-configured? 3) do you have anything in /etc/defaultrouter? What happens if you do sudo route -p delete -inet -dst default -gateway 203.6.241.1 -iface rge0 Does that work? Does it change your current "netstat -rn" output? I didn't do that, I had a look at the GUI network management stuff, and fixed an errant subnet mask, and removed the default route from the rge0 interface. I don't think IPv6 is an issue, but it's working now : netstat -rn Routing Table: IPv4 DestinationGateway Flags Ref Use Interface - - -- - default 203.6.241.1 UG 11 467289 e1000g0 127.0.0.1127.0.0.1UH2 60106 lo0 192.168.2.0 192.168.2.4 U 4317 rge0 203.6.241.0 203.6.241.37 U 59407656 e1000g0 Routing Table: IPv6 Destination/MaskGateway Flags Ref Use If --- --- - --- --- - ::1 ::1 UH 2 328 lo0 fe80::/10 fe80::523e:aaff:fe0c:fcbf U 2 0 rge0 Does it survive a reboot? I haven't tried yet, but will do tonight when it won't disrupt my users much. Thanks! Carl ___ openindiana-discuss mailing list openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org https://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
[OpenIndiana-discuss] weird network issue, choosing a default interface
Hey, I have a weird problem I don't quite know how to fix. I have an OI server, with two ethernet interfaces, 203.6.241.37 on e1000g0 and 192.168.2.4 on rge0. The 203.6.241 network is a real one, the 192.168, as you know, goes nowhere except local LAN stuff. Weird thing : hog:/slow/backups# traceroute www.sun.com traceroute: Warning: www.sun.com has multiple addresses; using 23.202.230.89 traceroute: Warning: Multiple interfaces found; using 203.6.241.37 @ e1000g0 traceroute to www.sun.com (23.202.230.89), 30 hops max, 40 byte packets 1 rooter.bl.echidna.id.au (203.6.241.1) 0.378 ms 0.279 ms 0.259 ms 2 *^C hog:/slow/backups# traceroute svr4.aboc.net.au traceroute: Warning: Multiple interfaces found; using 192.168.2.4 @ rge0 traceroute to svr4.aboc.net.au (202.47.4.7), 30 hops max, 40 byte packets 1 ^C hog:/slow/backups# traceroute svr4.aboc.net.au traceroute: Warning: Multiple interfaces found; using 192.168.2.4 @ rge0 traceroute to svr4.aboc.net.au (202.47.4.7), 30 hops max, 40 byte packets 1 * *^C The rge4 interface, 192.168.2.4, is being used, for some outgoing traffic. Of course, it's not finding its way home. um? netstat -rn shows Routing Table: IPv4 DestinationGateway Flags Ref Use Interface - - -- - default 203.6.241.1 UG2 108883 rge0 default 203.6.241.1 UG7 452759 e1000g0 127.0.0.1127.0.0.1UH2756 lo0 192.0.0.0192.168.2.4 U 2098 13913644 rge0 203.6.241.0 203.6.241.37 U 59368318 e1000g0 Routing Table: IPv6 Destination/MaskGateway Flags Ref Use If --- --- - --- --- - ::1 ::1 UH 2 328 lo0 fe80::/10 fe80::523e:aaff:fe0c:fcbf U 2 0 rge0 I think the default also being on rge0 is the problem, but I don't know how it got there, or how to remove it. Any clues? Thank you Carl ___ openindiana-discuss mailing list openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org https://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] OpenIndiana Hipster 2021.10 is here
Hey Jason, On 7/12/2021 4:26 am, Jason Martin wrote: "The new images are interesting for people with newer hardware that hasn’t been supported in the past." Latest VirtualBox no extensions on this machine: Can you confirm that VB 6.1.30 is working on the latest pkg update? Thank you Carl ___ openindiana-discuss mailing list openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org https://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Update to problem with VB 6.1.28 after upgade
On 22/11/2021 7:22 pm, Predrag Zecevic wrote: 6.1.30 was released a couple of weeks ago, the changelog doesn't seem to be relevant, but it might help? ___ openindiana-discuss mailing list openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org https://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] OI snapshot release?
On 22/11/2021 6:44 am, Andreas Wacknitz wrote: Hi, I have created the snapshot images on October 31st, and put them on the download server but haven't found enough time to write an announcement and the release notes. You can find them here: https://dlc.openindiana.org/isos/hipster/latest/ Thank you Andreas! Carl ___ openindiana-discuss mailing list openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org https://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
[OpenIndiana-discuss] OI snapshot release?
G'day, I may have missed it, and there's nothing on https://www.openindiana.org/category/news/ - has there been a snapshot release of OI? A 2021.10? I know I needed a specially brewed snapshot earlier this year to work with a modern motherboard and CPU combo, thanks to Andreas I got one. Is there a formal one coming? Thank you, Carl ___ openindiana-discuss mailing list openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org https://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
[OpenIndiana-discuss] Success with HDMI "dummy" was Re: resolved - sort of, now a reproduce-able bug was Re: A KVM switch broke my server?! Lightdm is panic'ing the kernel
On 6/09/2021 8:34 am, Carl Brewer wrote: Some more groveling around, and I think I may have found a solution. You can get HDMI "dummy" plugins, that fool the graphics card into thinking it has a monitor attached. I got one today, plugged it in to my NVidia 1030's HDMI port, booted the server, and bingo. Working! I can use lightdm's VNC setup, so I can VNC in to it, perfect. If I disconnect the dummy and plug in the HDMI monitor, it "just works" and there's my GUI console. I don't think it can find a kbd and mouse if they're not plugged in at boot time, but I can live without that, as long as I can ssh and VNC in, I'm happy. The device is this : https://core-electronics.com.au/hdmi-dummy-plug.html It's going in my rack cabinet now, and staying there! Thank you all for your help. Carl OpenPGP_signature Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ openindiana-discuss mailing list openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org https://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] resolved - sort of, now a reproduce-able bug was Re: A KVM switch broke my server?! Lightdm is panic'ing the kernel
On 7/09/2021 1:25 am, s...@pandora.be wrote: It's good news that you solved the problem. Can you please submit the hardware components to the HCL (OpenIndiana Hardware Compatibility List) ? The GUI DDU doesn't work, it doesn't submit the list, and I'm not sure what format to send what it should send, to Aurelian. If you know what commands I need to run from the shell to generate the right output, I would love to do it. Perhaps also with some BIOS info in the "Notes and/or specific usage instructions"; there are several systems and components with specific BIOS suggestions/hints ... In my case with the i3-10100 and Dell BIOS, when I press F12 to go into the "One-time boot menu" and BIOS setup, there is a Settings -> Video and it has two menus : 1) Multi-Display 2) Primary Display Under 2) Primary Display there is a choice 1) Auto 2) Intel HD 3) NVIDIA HD That selects the video card for the BIOS although it seems that both cards are always presented to the OpenIndiana OS. As far as I understand your case (without integrated graphics), you always had a possibility to see the BIOS settings on your NVIDIA card, yes, and as much poking around as I did, there did not seem to be anything in the BIOS that let me change any graphics settings. it was only the X11/lightdm at the OpenIndiana level that had an issue. yes In other words, the BIOS was always sort of using the NVIDIA card as its "primary display". yes OpenPGP_signature Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ openindiana-discuss mailing list openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org https://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] resolved - sort of, now a reproduce-able bug was Re: A KVM switch broke my server?! Lightdm is panic'ing the kernel
Some more groveling around, and I think I may have found a solution. You can get HDMI "dummy" plugins, that fool the graphics card into thinking it has a monitor attached. Hopefully I can get one locally to try. OpenPGP_signature Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ openindiana-discuss mailing list openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org https://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] resolved - sort of, now a reproduce-able bug was Re: A KVM switch broke my server?! Lightdm is panic'ing the kernel
Ok, the trigger for the fault, reproduce able, is to boot the box without anything plugged into the HDMI port on the GFX card. That seems to break something in the BIOS, then the only way to get it to start X11 without a kernel panic is to restore the BIOS from a previous saved version. Tried without KBD & mouse, and HDMI monitor plugged in, and despite the O/S not being smart enough to notice and then use the kbd or mouse after re-connecting, which while annoying, isn't a show stopper. But if nothing's plugged into the HDMI port, it does something weird to the BIOS and we're busted. The only way to get X11 working again is to revert the BIOS. It will run ok if you disable X11 (disable lightdm), but if you try to start X11, you get a kernel panic. The only way I've found to 'fix' it is to revert the BIOS. Is there something in the NVidia driver that could muck with the BIOS? This is odd. Very odd. Carl OpenPGP_signature Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ openindiana-discuss mailing list openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org https://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
[OpenIndiana-discuss] resolved - sort of, was Re: A KVM switch broke my server?! Lightdm is panic'ing the kernel
I ran out of options, so I reverted the BIOS back to a saved config from weeks ago, and ... it worked! *I* did not change the BIOS. WTF?! Am going to see what happens when I plug the KVM switch in again. It must have done something weird to something. The KVM switch is a little magic box with a USB hub in it. I dunno .. maybe that's the problem? One of these : http://pwaytek.com/en/product/products-0-20.html OpenPGP_signature Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ openindiana-discuss mailing list openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org https://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] A KVM switch broke my server?! Lightdm is panic'ing the kernel
I tried using nvidia-xconfig to generate an xorg.conf file in /etc/X11 and then hand-adding the speeds that my monitor supports. The monitor is an AOC 27V2Q, which, according to supports 30-88kHz horizontal and 50-75 Hz vertical so my xorg.conf file, now shows (I hand-added the vendor name, model and frequencies) : # nvidia-xconfig: X configuration file generated by nvidia-xconfig # nvidia-xconfig: version 390.144 (dvs-builder@U64-P08-16) Wed Jun 2 22:56:17 UTC 2021 Section "ServerLayout" Identifier "Layout0" Screen 0 "Screen0" InputDevice "Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard" InputDevice "Mouse0" "CorePointer" EndSection Section "Files" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/:unscaled" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/:unscaled" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/:unscaled" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/" EndSection Section "InputDevice" # generated from default Identifier "Mouse0" Driver "mouse" Option "Protocol" "auto" Option "Device" "/dev/mouse" Option "Emulate3Buttons" "no" Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5" EndSection Section "InputDevice" # generated from default Identifier "Keyboard0" Driver "keyboard" EndSection Section "Monitor" Identifier "Monitor0" VendorName "AOC" ModelName "27V2Q" HorizSync 30.0 - 88.0 VertRefresh 50.0 - 75.0 Option "DPMS" EndSection Section "Device" Identifier "Device0" Driver "nvidia" VendorName "NVIDIA Corporation" EndSection Section "Screen" Identifier "Screen0" Device "Device0" Monitor "Monitor0" DefaultDepth 24 SubSection "Display" Depth 24 EndSubSection EndSection No difference, when I run startx or lightdm, the screen blanks, a white cursor appears on the top left of the screen, it then reboots. What else can I try? Tangentially, I don't really need a console, but I want a remote X11 display - I can run vncserver and get at VirtualBox's GUI from there, but it's defaulting to TWM, which was nice in 1989 ... Is there some way to get lightdm to work just with vncserver/Xvnc and not try to run on the console - as a workaround, I can live without the console. OpenPGP_signature Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ openindiana-discuss mailing list openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org https://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] A KVM switch broke my server?! Lightdm is panic'ing the kernel
Still beating my head against this, I checked the NVidia drivers According to the machine : dmesg | grep -i nvi Sep 4 11:35:11 skaro pseudo: [ID 129642 kern.info] pseudo-device: nvidia255 Sep 4 11:35:11 skaro genunix: [ID 936769 kern.info] nvidia255 is /pseudo/nvidia@255 Sep 4 11:35:11 skaro nvidia_modeset: [ID 107833 kern.notice] Loading NVIDIA Kernel Mode Setting Driver for UNIX platforms 390.144 Wed Jun 2 22:57:33 UTC 2021 Sep 4 11:35:17 skaro nvidia_modeset: [ID 107833 kern.notice] Unloading So it's got 390.144, and physically, it has a Geforce GT 1030 in it, which matches : https://www.nvidia.com/Download/driverResults.aspx/177153/en-us So it should be the right driver for that card. the Xorg.0 logfile : carl@skaro:/var/log$ grep -i nvid * grep: can't open "authlog" grep: can't open "lightdm" Xorg.0.log:[ 277.419] (II) Module glx: vendor="NVIDIA Corporation" Xorg.0.log:[ 277.419] (II) NVIDIA GLX Module 390.144 Wed Jun 2 22:58:50 UTC 2021 Xorg.0.log:[ 277.439] (II) LoadModule: "nvidia" Xorg.0.log:[ 277.441] (II) Loading /usr/X11/lib/modules/drivers/amd64/nvidia_drv.so Xorg.0.log:[ 277.445] (II) Module nvidia: vendor="NVIDIA Corporation" Xorg.0.log:[ 277.445] (II) NVIDIA dlloader X Driver 390.144 Wed Jun 2 23:00:36 UTC 2021 Xorg.0.log:[ 277.445] (II) NVIDIA Unified Driver for all Supported NVIDIA GPUs Nothing weird about the driver : ls -la /usr/X11/lib/modules/drivers/amd64/nvidia_drv.so -r-xr-xr-x 1 root bin 7966304 Aug 13 18:01 /usr/X11/lib/modules/drivers/amd64/nvidia_drv.so I am *stumped*. I have run out of things to check and eliminate. Carl OpenPGP_signature Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ openindiana-discuss mailing list openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org https://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] A KVM switch broke my server?! Lightdm is panic'ing the kernel
On 4/09/2021 12:36 am, s...@pandora.be wrote: # scanpci | grep UHD Intel Corporation CometLake-S GT2 [UHD Graphics 630] So in my case the 'scanpci' tool from OpenIndiana detects a UHD Graphics 630 in addition to the NVIDIA adapter. Did you check 'scanpci' and grep Intel ? Yes, but not relevant, no UHD on this, see : scanpci | grep Intel Intel Corporation Comet Lake-S 6c Host Bridge/DRAM Controller Intel Corporation 6th-10th Gen Core Processor PCIe Controller (x16) Intel Corporation Comet Lake PCH-V USB Controller Intel Corporation Comet Lake PCH-V Thermal Subsystem Intel Corporation Device unknown Intel Corporation 400 Series Chipset Family SATA AHCI Controller Intel Corporation Device unknown Intel Corporation Device unknown Intel Corporation Device unknown Intel Corporation Device unknown Intel Corporation Memory controller Intel Corporation Device unknown Intel Corporation Comet Lake PCH-V SMBus Host Controller Intel Corporation Ethernet Connection (12) I219-V root@skaro:/var/crash/skaro# scanpci | grep NV NVIDIA Corporation GP108 [GeForce GT 1030] NVIDIA Corporation GP108 High Definition Audio Controller I am running OpenIndiana 2021.04 on a Dell Precision and also ran 'startx' to configure X. # prtdiag -v | head System Configuration: Dell Inc. Precision 3640 Tower BIOS Configuration: Dell Inc. 1.2.3 08/06/2020 Processor Sockets Version Location Tag -- Intel(R) Core(TM) i3-10100 CPU @ 3.60GHz U3E1 prtdiag -v | head System Configuration: Gigabyte Technology Co., Ltd. B460MAORUSPRO BIOS Configuration: American Megatrends Inc. F4 08/28/2020 Processor Sockets Version Location Tag -- Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-10400F CPU @ 2.90GHz U3E1 Basically what I did after initial text install was run startx and check that it was unable to use the 'intel' driver for that card. Anyway the NVIDIA card in my Dell Precision is working fine. I configured /etc/X11/xorg.conf using /usr/bin tools : /usr/bin/nvidia-SunOS-bug-report.sh /usr/bin/nvidia-xconfig /usr/bin/nvidia-settings Basically when running /usr/bin/nvidia-xconfig I save the xorg.conf file from there. I've just tried that, will see what happens, I just ran the nvidia-xconfig and saw that it generated an xorg.conf file in /etc/X11 Thanks! Carl OpenPGP_signature Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ openindiana-discuss mailing list openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org https://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] A KVM switch broke my server?! Lightdm is panic'ing the kernel
This is the panic message : root@skaro:/var/log# fmdump -Vp -u 017daaba-0d44-c582-d73d-b554bcf017a5 TIME UUID SUNW-MSG-ID Sep 04 2021 09:50:42.514056000 017daaba-0d44-c582-d73d-b554bcf017a5 SUNOS-8000-KL TIME CLASS ENA Sep 04 09:50:41.8497 ireport.os.sunos.panic.dump_pending_on_device 0x nvlist version: 0 version = 0x0 class = list.suspect uuid = 017daaba-0d44-c582-d73d-b554bcf017a5 code = SUNOS-8000-KL diag-time = 1630713042 443560 de = fmd:///module/software-diagnosis fault-list-sz = 0x1 fault-list = (array of embedded nvlists) (start fault-list[0]) nvlist version: 0 version = 0x0 class = defect.sunos.kernel.panic certainty = 0x64 asru = sw:///:path=/var/crash/skaro/.017daaba-0d44-c582-d73d-b554bcf017a5 resource = sw:///:path=/var/crash/skaro/.017daaba-0d44-c582-d73d-b554bcf017a5 savecore-succcess = 0 os-instance-uuid = 017daaba-0d44-c582-d73d-b554bcf017a5 panicstr = hat_devload: loading a mapping to free page fe0001007830 panicstack = unix:hat_devload+1ba () | gfx_private:gfxp_map_kernel_space+b5 () | nvidia:_nv027867rm+58 () | 9c400 () | nvidia:_nv002650rm+0 () | nvidia:_nv002231rm+0 () | crashtime = 1630713007 panic-time = September 4, 2021 at 09:50:07 AM AEST AEST (end fault-list[0]) fault-status = 0x1 severity = Major __ttl = 0x1 __tod = 0x6132b4d2 0x1ea3df40 Suggests that it's something in the Nvidia driver? This stuff is way beyond my debugging skill level. dmesg reports Sep 4 09:50:41 skaro genunix: [ID 936769 kern.info] winlock0 is /pseudo/winlock@0 Sep 4 09:50:41 skaro devfsadmd[684]: [ID 511948 daemon.error] di_init failed for /pci@0,0/pci1458,5007@14/input: No such device or address Sep 4 09:50:41 skaro svc.startd[9]: [ID 652011 daemon.warning] svc:/application/virtualbox/zoneaccess:default: Method "/opt/VirtualBox/VBoxZoneAccess" failed with exit status 127. Sep 4 09:50:41 skaro savecore: [ID 570001 auth.error] reboot after panic: hat_devload: loading a mapping to free page fe0001007830 Sep 4 09:50:41 skaro savecore: [ID 620374 auth.error] Panic crashdump pending on dump device but dumpadm -n in effect; run savecore(1M) manually to extract. Image UUID 017daaba-0d44-c582-d73d-b554bcf017a5. Sep 4 09:50:42 skaro svc.startd[9]: [ID 652011 daemon.warning] svc:/application/virtualbox/zoneaccess:default: Method "/opt/VirtualBox/VBoxZoneAccess" failed with exit status 127. Sep 4 09:50:42 skaro last message repeated 1 time Sep 4 09:50:42 skaro svc.startd[9]: [ID 748625 daemon.error] application/virtualbox/zoneaccess:default failed: transitioned to maintenance (see 'svcs -xv' for details) Sep 4 09:50:42 skaro svc.startd[9]: [ID 748625 daemon.error] network/fail2ban:default failed repeatedly: transitioned to maintenance (see 'svcs -xv' for details) Sep 4 09:50:42 skaro fmd: [ID 377184 daemon.error] SUNW-MSG-ID: SUNOS-8000-KL, TYPE: Defect, VER: 1, SEVERITY: Major Sep 4 09:50:42 skaro EVENT-TIME: Sat Sep 4 09:50:42 AEST 2021 Sep 4 09:50:42 skaro PLATFORM: B460MAORUSPRO, CSN: Default-string, HOSTNAME: skaro Sep 4 09:50:42 skaro SOURCE: software-diagnosis, REV: 0.1 Sep 4 09:50:42 skaro EVENT-ID: 017daaba-0d44-c582-d73d-b554bcf017a5 Sep 4 09:50:42 skaro DESC: The system has rebooted after a kernel panic. Refer to http://illumos.org/msg/SUNOS-8000-KL for more information. Sep 4 09:50:42 skaro AUTO-RESPONSE: The failed system image was dumped to the dump device. If savecore is enabled (see dumpadm(1M)) a copy of the dump will be written to the savecore directory . Sep 4 09:50:42 skaro IMPACT: There may be some performance impact while the panic is copied to the savecore directory. Disk space usage by panics can be substantial. Sep 4 09:50:42 skaro REC-ACTION: If savecore is not enabled then please take steps to preserve the crash image. Sep 4 09:50:42 skaro Use 'fmdump -Vp -u 017daaba-0d44-c582-d73d-b554bcf017a5' to view more panic detail. Please refer to the knowledge article for additional information. Sep 4 09:50:43 skaro mac: [ID 435574 kern.info] NOTICE: e1000g0 link up, 1000 Mbps, full duplex Sep 4 09:50:47 skaro nvidia_modeset: [ID 107833 kern.notice] Unloading I don't think the Virtualbox stuff is relevant. I have debugging info in /var/crash/skaro after running savecore : root@skaro:/var/cron# mkdir -p /var/crash/skaro root@skaro:/var/cron# savecore savecore: System dump time: Sat Sep 4 09:50:07 2021 savecore: Saving compressed system crash dump in /var/crash/skaro/vmdump.0 savecore: Decompress the crash dump with 'savecore -vf /var/crash/skaro/vmdump.0' root@skaro:/var/cron# cd /var/crash/skaro/ root@skaro:/var/cr
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] A KVM switch broke my server?! Lightdm is panic'ing the kernel
On 4/09/2021 12:36 am, s...@pandora.be wrote: You wrote that you are running a Intel i5-10400F CPU. That is a 6 core CPU according and the specs do not list an integrated Graphics card so I think it is an Intel CPU *without* integrated graphics : That's correct. That's why I'm using Nvidia cards in it. https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/products/sku/199278/intel-core-i510400f-processor-12m-cache-up-to-4-30-ghz/specifications.html The following is based on my experience with an Intel i3 with integrated graphics so that's different from your case, but may be of use anyway : Have you checked for error messages in /var/log/Xorg.0.log ? Are you using a specific /etc/X11/xorg.conf configuration file or do you use the probe and autodetection ? Totally vanilla setup. Whatever that happens to be. I just booted off the USB image and it worked, or, it did work ... until yesterday's plug into the KVM switch anyway. I'll check the Xorg log file. thank you Carl OpenPGP_signature Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ openindiana-discuss mailing list openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org https://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] A KVM switch broke my server?! Lightdm is panic'ing the kernel
On 3/09/2021 9:35 pm, Tony Brian Albers wrote: Have you tried just booting with lightdm disabled, logging in through the cli and running startx? It did a pretty good kernel panic! This is weird. OpenPGP_signature Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ openindiana-discuss mailing list openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org https://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
[OpenIndiana-discuss] A KVM switch broke my server?! Lightdm is panic'ing the kernel
I've almost finished setting up my new i5/NVIDIA 1030 server. latest pkg image-update today, my WD red pros arrived at last so I could build my ZFS mirror for the data store, it's all coming together. I've turned off atime on rpool and my other zpools. Rebooted, everything seems fine. Everything works on my dining room table, rebooted, it's solid. So it's time to move it into the rack in my office. I have a HDMI and USB KVM switch I plug it into. Not really paying much attention, I didn't watch the console when it booted, I don't think I even had it plugged in to a monitor at the time. Long story short, it keeps kernel panic'ing if lightdm is enabled. I can boot without lightdm and it's fine. I'd like the GUI though. The ASCII console is pretty close to useless, it's slow as mud. Inherited that from SPARC I guess ... In the OId Days, when I had a Sun 3/60(!) as my desktop, the ASCII console was faster. heh. IPX, Sparc 2, no quicker. I never cared, I ran X11 on them, meh ... Things I have tried, after getting rid of the KVM switch from the situation. Connected directly to the original (previously working) monitor with the originally working HDMI cable. Replacing the 1030 with a NVIDIA 1660 GFX card I had lying around. different HDMI cable different monitor HDMI/SVGA adaptor cable instead of KVM switch No luck. I've even tried booting off the (working, or it used to!) USB drive Aurelian set up for me. It won't boot lightdm up. Kernel panic. I don't get it. It worked this afternoon! Reverted back to last week's OI boot environment (which worked!), nope ... I'm stumped, short of resetting the BIOS, I can't think of anything else to try to revert it back to how it was 4 hours ago when it worked on the table! It's back there now, and I can log in remotely. If anyone has any suggestions for how to debug it? Or how to just get at it using a VNC client - all the "set up VNC for OI" instructions I've found are ancient and don't mention lightdm. If I can't have a GUI console, that's ok, as long as I can get at it using VNC. OpenPGP_signature Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ openindiana-discuss mailing list openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org https://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] SSDs for OI hipster ZFS root mirror?
On 21/08/2021 7:32 pm, James wrote: On 19/08/2021 23:58, Carl Brewer wrote: Further to this - is it worth disabling atime on the ZFS root pool that's on the SSDs? I don't imagine it's a lot of data, but it would add up over the years. Do you ever look at the access times? not personally, but some system software might. For a non-root filesystem, it's a no-brainer though. I'll turn it off, and see if anything breaks :) Thanks! Carl OpenPGP_signature Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ openindiana-discuss mailing list openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org https://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] SSDs for OI hipster ZFS root mirror?
Further to this - is it worth disabling atime on the ZFS root pool that's on the SSDs? I don't imagine it's a lot of data, but it would add up over the years. ___ openindiana-discuss mailing list openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org https://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Installing on Intel B460M chipset intel i5-10400F
Further to this, it works with a pair of Samsung SSD 980 NVMe M.2 drives as a ZFS mirror for root, I used the text installed. Simple. Thank you Aurelian! Carl OpenPGP_signature Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ openindiana-discuss mailing list openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org https://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] SSDs for OI hipster ZFS root mirror?
I now have a pair of Samsung SSD 980 500GB NVMe M.2 drives as a ZFS mirror for root on this new machine. It installed straight away with no dramas. It boots fast! Wow. Thank you all for your help and advice, esp Aurelian for the updated USB image. Any chance OI could do a release of it? Thank you, Carl OpenPGP_signature Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ openindiana-discuss mailing list openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org https://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] SSDs for OI hipster ZFS root mirror?
On 16/08/2021 4:29 pm, Stephan Althaus wrote: Hi! Remember that firefox likes if there is plenty of swap configured! It does not use much though. Not using FF, this machine is pretty-much a dedicated virtualbox host. The VM's will be on spinning HDDs i have 32GB ram and 32GB swap configured, it reduces the amount of available disk space in the rpool but the 218GB of my root mirror are fine. I've got 2 x 500GB Samsung M.2's on order, that should do it! cheers Carl OpenPGP_signature Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ openindiana-discuss mailing list openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org https://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] SSDs for OI hipster ZFS root mirror?
On 16/08/2021 9:29 am, Bob Friesenhahn wrote: On Sun, 15 Aug 2021, Carl Brewer wrote: I am using a pair of Samsung 250GB M.2 SATA SSDs for boot for many years already (since 2015) with no issues. Are you putting swap onto something else or just letting it use the SSDs? Swap is using the default so it is using the SSDs. There is sufficient RAM so that swap is always idle and thus it causes no wear. Nice. I have 32 GB, should be enough. Thank you. I'm off to grab a couple of M.2s and see how they go. Carl OpenPGP_signature Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ openindiana-discuss mailing list openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org https://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Success! Re: Installing on Intel B460M chipset intel i5-10400F
Now a lot of setup to do, but that's easy stuff. I will send in the hardware report using the DDU when it's all online. Except that the DDU doesn't submit, I've seen another thread here explaining why. In the interests of adding to the knowledge pool, what command should I use to generate a list of devices and should I just get its output and email to hcl@? Thanks again! Carl ___ openindiana-discuss mailing list openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org https://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] SSDs for OI hipster ZFS root mirror?
On 14/08/2021 11:37 pm, Bob Friesenhahn wrote: On Sat, 14 Aug 2021, Carl Brewer wrote: Rather than use a couple of 1TB WD red pros or Blacks, is it a good choice to run a ZFS root mirror on a couple of SSDs? I figure I'd only need 250MB or so, all the data etc will be on spinning drives in a raidZ-something array, the root system - apart from swap, will be pretty static read-mostly So I'm considering running a couple of Samsung 250GB SSDs, any thoughts or war stories before I go and buy them? Is it better to stagger them in terms of age, or different brands/models so they don't both run out of writes at the same time? Is this setting me up for a disaster in 3 years, or will it be predictable and easy to maintain? As long as the BIOS is happy and finds the devices, there should be no problems. It was happy with the WD green 250GB SATA SSD. I haven't got an m.2 lying around to check, but I suspect that might be my best bet. There are not normally a lot of writes to the ZFS root pool. It is wise to make sure that the type of product you choose will still exist in the future in case you need to replace it. SSDs may fail for reasons other than excessive writes. I am using a pair of Samsung 250GB M.2 SATA SSDs for boot for many years already (since 2015) with no issues. Are you putting swap onto something else or just letting it use the SSDs? Thank you Carl OpenPGP_signature Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ openindiana-discuss mailing list openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org https://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] SSDs for OI hipster ZFS root mirror?
On 14/08/2021 4:45 pm, Tim Mooney via openindiana-discuss wrote: In regard to: [OpenIndiana-discuss] SSDs for OI hipster ZFS root mirror?,...: I don't think there's any status monitoring software for them that would run on OI? I would certainly give smartmontools a try. Most decent SSDs should support SMART reporting, as long as they're not hiding behind a controller like a PERC. I'll give it a go - I just did a test install onto an older WD green SSD - but I don't trust that thing for anything except a quick test! Thank you Carl OpenPGP_signature Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ openindiana-discuss mailing list openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org https://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
[OpenIndiana-discuss] SSDs for OI hipster ZFS root mirror?
Rather than use a couple of 1TB WD red pros or Blacks, is it a good choice to run a ZFS root mirror on a couple of SSDs? I figure I'd only need 250MB or so, all the data etc will be on spinning drives in a raidZ-something array, the root system - apart from swap, will be pretty static read-mostly So I'm considering running a couple of Samsung 250GB SSDs, any thoughts or war stories before I go and buy them? Is it better to stagger them in terms of age, or different brands/models so they don't both run out of writes at the same time? Is this setting me up for a disaster in 3 years, or will it be predictable and easy to maintain? I don't think there's any status monitoring software for them that would run on OI? OpenPGP_signature Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ openindiana-discuss mailing list openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org https://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
[OpenIndiana-discuss] Success! Re: Installing on Intel B460M chipset intel i5-10400F
Success! The USB image Aurelian gave me, combined with using the text installer on the "whole disk", has worked. I have a brand spanking new Intel i5-10400F on a Gigabyte B460M Pro motherboard, running OI. Thank you! Now a lot of setup to do, but that's easy stuff. I will send in the hardware report using the DDU when it's all online. Carl OpenPGP_signature Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ openindiana-discuss mailing list openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org https://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Installing on Intel B460M chipset intel i5-10400F
Aurelian's supplied me with a new cut of the USB image, which boots! And the GUI works! (Nvidia 1030). It all seems excellent! Thank you! Ran the GUI install onto a SATA HDD, seems good. The BIOS is now not recognising the SATA HDD as a boot option. It sees the drive in its list of SATA drives, but doesn't recognise it as a boot drive so it just dumps back to BIOS setup if the USB drive is not plugged in. When I did the install, I told the GUI installer to "use the whole drive". I'm about to try the other option (which seems to be default), but shouldn't that work? As far as I could tell, the drive was formatted and had a ZFS volume on it. I don't have to manually run installboot? The BIOS is set to see the drive as a AHCI OpenPGP_signature Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ openindiana-discuss mailing list openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org https://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Installing on Intel B460M chipset intel i5-10400F
On 14/08/2021 7:23 am, Mike Carroll wrote: My answer might not be the "officially recommended solution" but couldn't you use a sata to usb adapter, connect it to VirtualBox and select the disk as an installation medium? Virtualbox, AFAICT, doesn't seem to allow me to use an actual drive instead of creating an image, unless there's some magic somewhere I can't see? OpenPGP_signature Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ openindiana-discuss mailing list openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org https://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Installing on Intel B460M chipset intel i5-10400F
On 13/08/2021 11:34 pm, Stephan Althaus wrote: Hi Carl! Assuming still that it is a USB problem...(?) If you have a spare SATA drive, you could write the USB image to that drive and use that to boot - to circumvent all the USB stuff. i think i did that once some years ago. Interesting - how would I do that to make it a bootable drive? I have heaps of old SATA drives lying around OpenPGP_signature Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ openindiana-discuss mailing list openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org https://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Installing on Intel B460M chipset intel i5-10400F
On 13/08/2021 10:36 pm, Toomas Soome via openindiana-discuss wrote: On 13. Aug 2021, at 14:21, Carl Brewer wrote: If it helps, here's a photo of the screen when it was looping http://aboc.net.au/oi_hang.png/image_view_fullscreen boot -rs, can it get to single user prompt? Trying that now. It's late here, I'll update the thread tomorrow my time. Thank you for the help so far. Carl OpenPGP_signature Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ openindiana-discuss mailing list openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org https://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Installing on Intel B460M chipset intel i5-10400F
If it helps, here's a photo of the screen when it was looping http://aboc.net.au/oi_hang.png/image_view_fullscreen OpenPGP_signature Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ openindiana-discuss mailing list openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org https://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Installing on Intel B460M chipset intel i5-10400F
On 13/08/2021 7:14 pm, Carl Brewer wrote: I have it doing a boot -m debug at the moment, it's ... taking a while! It's a PITA to type in, it seemed to be looping on milestone/devices - I guess not surprizing that it's unhappy on a new motherboard. Is there somewhere handy I can show a photo of the screen? I guess no emailed images to the list. OpenPGP_signature Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ openindiana-discuss mailing list openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org https://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Installing on Intel B460M chipset intel i5-10400F
On 13/08/2021 7:06 pm, Stephan Althaus wrote: Hi Carl! I am sorry to hear that you've this problems... I would suggest to try a USB-2 port, i have problems on one of my systems with USB since February or March... or try a 2020-10 image.. Thank you, Stephan, I'm letting a debug boot run at the moment, if that gets me no joy I'll try the older image OpenPGP_signature Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ openindiana-discuss mailing list openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org https://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Installing on Intel B460M chipset intel i5-10400F
On 13/08/2021 6:59 pm, Peter Tribble wrote: As I recall, the keyboard prompt comes fairly late in the process - certainly after accessing the USB media to pull in /usr from it, so that would imply it's found the USB stick and is happy with it. The question then would be which smf service is getting stuck. By verbose, was that 'boot -v'? If so, you can track progress through smf with 'boot -m verbose' or 'boot -m debug' (I think - it's been a while). I have it doing a boot -m debug at the moment, it's ... taking a while! Will report what it says in a bit Thank you, Carl OpenPGP_signature Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ openindiana-discuss mailing list openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org https://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Installing on Intel B460M chipset intel i5-10400F
On 13/08/2021 6:59 pm, Peter Tribble wrote: As I recall, the keyboard prompt comes fairly late in the process - certainly after accessing the USB media to pull in /usr from it, so that would imply it's found the USB stick and is happy with it. The question then would be which smf service is getting stuck. Yeah, I've tried a different USB slot and no difference. The verbosity is from the, I don't know what you call it, boot option selector? It's a curses-ish screen that you get when you select "5" (sorry, the machine is in a different room to me) that lets you select a few things - single/multi user, "verbose" etc Where would I get to a menu or prompt that let me "boot -v" ? I can get to an "ok" prompt, is that it? By verbose, was that 'boot -v'? If so, you can track progress through smf with 'boot -m verbose' or 'boot -m debug' (I think - it's been a while). OpenPGP_signature Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ openindiana-discuss mailing list openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org https://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Installing on Intel B460M chipset intel i5-10400F
The furthest I got was to use the minimal install 20210430 USB image, it booted, albeit slowly. I ran the boot in verbose mode, it got as far as prompting for the type of keyboard, which I confirmed as US English (47). It then sat there, I left it for 30 minutes, no change. The screen responds to keyboard input, by echoing the keystrokes, but ^C and ^Z do nothing more than echo to the screen. Since it's on a standalone machine, I can't easily show the screen, I did take a photo of it though, but not good list manners to post it. It found the HDD (WD black 1TB) and didn't seem upset about it, but there was no more verbosity to see what it was hung up on. I don't expect 30 minutes was insufficient time for it to do whatever it was trying to do. Text mode, so I don't think the Nvidia card would have made much difference? I'm not going to give up on it, but I need some guidance as to what to try next. OI and OpenSolaris have been my go to for rock solid platforms for the best part of 20 years now. I don't want to give up and resort to some flaky linux distro just to get ZFS and Virtualbox running! "help" Thank you! Carl OpenPGP_signature Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ openindiana-discuss mailing list openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org https://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Installing on Intel B460M chipset intel i5-10400F
I assume there's a way to make it be more verbose, so I can see where it's getting stuck, any hints? OpenPGP_signature Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ openindiana-discuss mailing list openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org https://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Installing on Intel B460M chipset intel i5-10400F
It got stuck at Done mounting live image again. I gave up after ~10 mins of it just sitting there. OpenPGP_signature Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ openindiana-discuss mailing list openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org https://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Installing on Intel B460M chipset intel i5-10400F
Trying to boot multi-user, it got to a point where it said : Done mounting live image and it just sat there, for ~20 mins before I gave up and rebooted it. The keyboard was responding, but ^C and ^Z did not interupt. Now trying single user to see how far it will get. Is there a more recent USB image I can try, or should I ditch the USB GUI live image and try something less stressful for it? OpenPGP_signature Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ openindiana-discuss mailing list openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org https://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Installing a new Openindiana via usb
On 13/08/2021 2:32 pm, Carl Brewer wrote: On 2/08/2021 8:02 pm, david allan finch wrote: I got chance to look at this again. No of that seamed to work. I found an old Windows boot USB and that boots, so it is not the usb boot system. I created a new USB drive with the latest OI and I still get the same issue. May be I am using the Win32DiskImager wrong or there is an issue creating the bootable USB drive. Is anyone else attually doing this from Windows? I'm trying to do the same thing, brand new Toshiba 16GB USB3 drive, using the 202104 USB image and win32diskimager to install it, using default settings - it's not showing up in the BIOS boot menu at all. Seconding your question, has anyone here in recent memory been able to boot off the USB image installed on a USB drive with win32diskimager? Scratch that, I got the Hipster USB image to boot. It's just super-fussy about secure boot being off. Carl OpenPGP_signature Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ openindiana-discuss mailing list openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org https://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
[OpenIndiana-discuss] Installing on Intel B460M chipset intel i5-10400F
I now have a brand spanking new Intel i5-10400F CPU, plugged into a Gigabyte Aorus B460M "pro" motherboard, with an Nvidia 1030 graphics card and 32GB of non-ECC RAM in two DIMMs, all good. It has a WD "Black" 1TB HDD that I will be using at first to set it all up on. If I can get it to install nicely, I will probably add some SSD's and then use ZFS root with a mirror, most likely. The box will be used to host Virtualbox guests, not high CPU or disk loading. This thread is to track installing OI Hipster on it. First up, it all works according to the BIOS. Got it plugged into a USB keyboard & mouse, and an HDMI monitor. I can set the BIOS up. Good. I grabbed the Hipster USB boot image from http://dlc.openindiana.org/isos/hipster/20210430/OI-hipster-gui-20210430.usb My desktop machine is windows 10/64, so I used these instructions : http://docs.openindiana.org/handbook/getting-started/#creating-a-hipster-usb-drive "method 1" ie: use win32diskimager (version 1.0.0), default settings. I've turned off "secure boot" on the new machine's BIOS. The BIOS is a PITA, but I got it to see the USB drive after some fiddling. Good news - it boots off the USB drive. Not sure if it will work with the graphics card yet, but we'll see. ___ openindiana-discuss mailing list openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org https://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Installing a new Openindiana via usb
On 2/08/2021 8:02 pm, david allan finch wrote: I got chance to look at this again. No of that seamed to work. I found an old Windows boot USB and that boots, so it is not the usb boot system. I created a new USB drive with the latest OI and I still get the same issue. May be I am using the Win32DiskImager wrong or there is an issue creating the bootable USB drive. Is anyone else attually doing this from Windows? I'm trying to do the same thing, brand new Toshiba 16GB USB3 drive, using the 202104 USB image and win32diskimager to install it, using default settings - it's not showing up in the BIOS boot menu at all. Seconding your question, has anyone here in recent memory been able to boot off the USB image installed on a USB drive with win32diskimager? OpenPGP_signature Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ openindiana-discuss mailing list openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org https://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] OI install on current gen desktop motherboards?
On 11/08/2021 4:24 pm, aurelien.larc...@gmail.com wrote: Some illumos developpers seem to use recent Intel NUCs. I run a Dell R740xd2 with two Xeon Gold 5218R bought last autumn. Thank you Aurelien and Till, I will get a new i5 and see how it goes. If I get stuck, trying to install, expect requests for help :) Carl ___ openindiana-discuss mailing list openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org https://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
[OpenIndiana-discuss] OI install on current gen desktop motherboards?
I originally posted this to OI-userland by mistake! G'day, One of my aging (10 years!) OpenSolaris/OI box needs to be replaced, it's a timebomb now. I'm looking at using a 10th or 11th gen Intel i5, probably a i5-10400F or 11400F, it's the sweet spot for value here. LGA1200 socket. Looking at using Gigabyte desktop motherboards because I've always found them to be reliable over many years. There's H410M, B460M and B560M chipset boards that seem reasonably priced. Any compelling reason to go with one of them in particular? I had a hell of a time getting initial installs working on a 9th gen motherboard about two years ago, has that story changed? I remember having to do all sorts of weird stuff with custom builds and BIOS changes. I had a look at the OI and Illumos HCLs but nothing recent seems to be there. Thank you, Carl ___ openindiana-discuss mailing list openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org https://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Virtualbox 6.1.22?
6.1.24 was released a couple of days ago, I can't see anything showstopping in the changelog. On 7/06/2021 5:32 pm, Predrag Zecevic wrote: On 05.06.2021 12:16, Andreas Wacknitz wrote: Any news on this issue? Shall I merge the PR or close it? Andreas Thanks Andreas, I am using it, and so far I could not spot problems... (NOTE: not using any GUI guest, just headless) Regards. ___ openindiana-discuss mailing list openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org https://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss ___ openindiana-discuss mailing list openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org https://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Virtualbox 6.1.22?
On 5/06/2021 8:16 pm, Andreas Wacknitz wrote: Any news on this issue? Shall I merge the PR or close it? I couldn't get it to compile, but that's not because of something wrong with it, just I don't know the magic to make it happen. +1 from me Carl ___ openindiana-discuss mailing list openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org https://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Virtualbox 6.1.22?
On 19/05/2021 8:12 pm, Stephan Althaus wrote: Hello! i am using this version for a week now, no issues here. @Carl: did you also had time to test version 6.1.22 ? No, I couldn't get it to compile, something I did wrong no-doubt. Carl ___ openindiana-discuss mailing list openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org https://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
