Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] HP Z820 .. will have big troubles installing hipster

[Ron Dawson]

On Sat, Aug 17, 2019 at 12:14 PM Harry Putnam  wrote:
>
> (NOTE: this is NOT a spammy `selling' msg)
>
> See this ebay offering:
>
> https://www.ebay.com/itm/HP-Z820-Xeon-2X-E5-2640-6Core-64GB-RAM-180GB-SSD-3TB-Nvidia-400-Workstation/143348010960?hash=item2160350fd0:g:Wr8AAOSwba1dG7FX
>
> I'm not knowledgeable enough to know if this item seems almost
> unreasonably cheap, like maybe it's been hit with a sledgehammer on
> the side you can't see. . . hehe
>
> I'd really like to hear some opinions.
>
> I have installed OI and then hipster on older HP work station (HP
> xw8600) (Running for a couple of yrs now) but have run into a few
> things.  One being that the xw8600 workstation will not recognize HHD
> bigger than 2tb.  (Surprisingly OI-hipster still recognizes the
> several 3tb hhd I have on it and is able to use them anyway)
>
> Is it likely I would have serious problems installing hipster on
> the ebay offering . Are there issues installing hipster on ssd?
>

I've run both OI and Solaris 11.3 on Z820s and Z840s without any major
issues.  I have never tried installing on an SSD for these systems,
but with a 3 TB HDD it is normally not an issue.

- Ron

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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] well travelled Q about mving from oi_151a9 to ?

[Ron Dawson]

We've updated some fairly old HP Z400 workstations from OI_151a9 to Hipster
with no discernable hardware issues.  The only issues we had were with HP
network printers no longer working, but that had nothing to do with the
hardware.

- Ron


On Wed, Mar 8, 2017 at 2:15 AM Harry Putnam  wrote:

> setup:
>   SunOS 2x 5.11 oi_151a9 i86pc i386 i86pc
>   Running on HP xw8600 2x of these:
>   Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU X5470 @ 3.33GHz XU1 PROCESSOR
>
> I've been running build 151a9 for a good while but starting to see
> problems with compatibility in some areas... had a few go arounds with
> ssh, and now the latest virtual box won't install involving what I think
> is incompats there too.  I run 5-9 vms that are no more than toys
> really.  Nothing commercial or involving much money.
>
> If not now then soon the aging software problems will increase without
> upgrading to something.
>
> I need some sage advice about what to move to.  Is hipster likely to
> last a while and be upgradable etc.  Is it likely to install on my
> hardware?  I have it running in 2 vms but one can't really tell how it
> react to real (no oldish) hardware.
>
> There are so many contenders in the solaris alike field I barely know
> what to even consider.  I tried making a vm from sol 11.3 today but it
> failed severly with many services unable to start wouldn't evem boot
> to crippled state but just crash clear down after a few minutes way
> more mess that I wanted to wade into.
>
> But can anyone say how it might go were I to get a successful install
> on my hardware not a vm with 11.3
>
> My skill level is very low but somehow... with lots of help here and a
> few other places I've stayed online for several years. With only small
> downtime.
>
> I'd like to move to something I can expect to stay up for maybe 3yrs
> or so without major reinstalls required.
>
> So in blunt terms we have a dope at the helm who stumbles along with
> some help.. I have a working knowledge of zfs but afraid my zpools will
> be so outdated there will be major problems.
>
> The good side is currently I have nothing onboard I can't loose or
> could rsync the data onto linux hosts on my local lan.
>
> So not tons of data.. maybe 460 GB total.
>
> Any advice about what to get restarted on that will seem familiar to
> at least some degree, and will be upgradable into the future for
> several yrs.
>
>
>
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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] OpenIndiana Code of Conduct

[ron . dawson]

Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone on the TELUS network.
  Original Message  
From: Adam Števko
Sent: Monday, July 18, 2016 6:35 PM
To: Discussion list for OpenIndiana; OpenIndiana Developer mailing list
Reply To: Discussion list for OpenIndiana
Subject: [OpenIndiana-discuss] OpenIndiana Code of Conduct

Hello,

As part of a larger effort at providing a more formal governance structure for 
the OpenIndiana project, I’d like to announce on the behalf of OI developers 
the adoption of an OpenIndiana Code of Conduct. The draft text for this new 
document can be found at http://www.openindiana.org/community/code-of-conduct/ 
.

We would also like to point out this draft document is open to discussion and 
acceptance by the community.
Our desire is for the discussion to be civil and for it to center around the 
verbiage of the Code of Conduct.
We do not wish for the discussion to go off topic, or question the need for 
such a document.

Please compose your thoughts and comment with as few replies as necessary so 
the community may solidify the final text of this document.

Cheers,
Adam

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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Libreoffice

[ron . dawson]

Libre Office also benefits a bit from the licenses they use. Libreoffice can 
integrate OpenOffice changes while OpenOffice cannot do the same thing with 
LibreOffice source code. This kind of stacks the deck against OpenOffice to an 
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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Bash bug issue

[Ron Dawson]

Thanks for this!



On Mon, Oct 13, 2014 at 1:19 PM, Alexander Pyhalov a...@rsu.ru wrote:

 Hello.
 Jon Tibble has just pushed updated bash package with recent security fixes
 to OI /dev a9. Just update your bash to 
 shell/bash@4.0.28,5.11-0.151.1.9:20140117T202904Z
 .
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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] What Do I Have To Install To Get A GUI ?

[Ron Dawson]

On Wed, Jul 16, 2014 at 12:58 AM, Alan Coopersmith 
alan.coopersm...@oracle.com wrote:


 Things work much better if you use the GUI installer to install systems on
 which you want to run a GUI.   On Solaris 11, pkg install solaris-desktop
 would get you all the bits as well, but since OpenIndiana still uses the
 old names, the packages from the GUI install media are grouped under the
 more obscure name, pkg install slim_install.

 I've been curious for a while where the group name slim_install came
from.  Is slim an acronym for something?
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[OpenIndiana-discuss] libgnomeprintui-2.2

[Ron Dawson]

This is more of a Solaris 11 question than an OI question, but perhaps
someone can help out.

I've been trying to move an application from an old Solaris 10 SPARC V440
server to a newer T4 Sparc server running Solaris 11.1.  The application
has a libgnomeprintui-2.2 dependency.  I have libgnomeprintui on all of my
Solaris 10 (SPARC) systems and also on OI (x86) where I can recompile the
application.  I haven't had any luck finding libgnomeprintui-2.2 on Solaris
11.1 (SPARC).

Has support for this library been dropped or am I just missing the correct
set of packages?  I couldn't find anything at all related to Gnome or GTK
printing in the package manager.

- Ron
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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] libgnomeprintui-2.2

[Ron Dawson]

On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 10:35 PM, Alan Coopersmith 
alan.coopersm...@oracle.com wrote:


 Support for it was dropped before Solaris 11 shipped - according to the
 writeup
 from the GNOME team when they removed it:

The last version of GNOME that included libgnomeprint or
libgnomeprintui in the GNOME Platform was GNOME 2.10.  These
 long
deprecated interfaces are no longer supported by the GNOME
 community
and print interfaces have been migrated to the GTK+ library.
The Desktop team plans to remove these interfaces and
 applications
should now be using the more robust GTK+ based print interfaces.

 Solaris 11 includes GNOME 2.30, which is 10 full releases past GNOME 2.10.


Thanks.  I figured as much after I poked around the net after posting my
question.  I guess we'll have to bite the bullet and rework our printing
code to use the GTK+ print interfaces, that or sticking with Solaris 10
when running this application on SPARC.

- Ron
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[OpenIndiana-discuss] USB 3.0 in illumos

[Ron Dawson]

Is anyone aware of work or a time line for USB 3 support in illumos?  I'm
looking at replacing my laptop and also my home NAS server in the coming
months and lack of USB 3 in illumos/OI is starting to limit my options
especially with regard to the laptop replacement.

- Ron
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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Oracle Stops Sun Ray development

[Ron Dawson]

I heard about this earlier today.  I'm not sure what this will do to our
plans to replace our old Sun Ray 1 and 1Gs with the 3 Plus.  Currently
we're running off Solaris 10 on SPARC.  I have not tried it yet with OI or
Solaris 11.

Daniel, were there any difficulties getting the SRSS 5 software running on
OI?

- Ron




On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 4:40 PM, Daniel Kjar dk...@elmira.edu wrote:

 How sad.  Well, I guess I will be replacing all my 2s with 3s as I am sure
 the ebay market for them will completely collapse.  SRSS '5' (4.2?) works
 so well I haven't bothered patching/upgrading/even worrying about it for 2+
 years now (yeah, and oracle killed that with their jackass support options
 anyway).  And, it works great with OI.  Hopefully OI won't break it over
 time as it is updated.






 On 7/15/2013 10:00 AM, Paolo Marcheschi wrote:

 Maybe Off Topic , but a great bad news.

 Oracle decides to discontinue the developing of the DVI infrastructure :

 http://www.zdnet.com/oracle-**to-halt-development-of-sun-**
 virtualization-technologies-**718028/http://www.zdnet.com/oracle-to-halt-development-of-sun-virtualization-technologies-718028/

 Are there any viable alternatives? Using illumos based OS ?

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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] what a slow system

[Ron Dawson]

Interesting.  I wonder how OI 151a7 would compare to Solaris 11.1 on his older 
hardware?

I have Solaris 11.1 installed on one of our servers and have not noticed any of 
these issues, but this is a newish Sun-Oracle box with 48 GB RAM and I 
installed it from scratch to 11.1 so it's not a good comparison.

- Ron


-Original Message-
From: Apostolos Syropoulos asyropou...@yahoo.com
Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2013 08:23:10 
To: Discussionlistfor Open Indianaopenindiana-discuss@openindiana.org; 
Illumos Discussiondisc...@lists.illumos.org
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Subject: [OpenIndiana-discuss] what a slow system

 Hello,

 A friend of mine installed Solaris 11.1 and he noticed that his system needs 
an unusual
amount of time to shutdown. According to

https://forums.oracle.com/forums/thread.jspa?threadID=2497052tstart=0

Solaris 11 has become Slowaris again :-( I guess that's a benefit of
closing source...

A.S.

 
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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] OpenIndiana lead Alasdair Lumsden resigns

[Ron Dawson]

I'm also sad to hear that* *Alasdair Lumsden has resigned as lead of the
project.  I was greatly heartened when Alasdair first announced the project
and have been using OI ever since the early releases on both my personal
laptop and as my new work desktop (my other work desktop is Solaris
10/SPARC).  I wish that he had not been so down on the viability of OI in
his resignation letter, but I can certainly understand the rant given the
frustrations he was dealing with.

After reading though the OI-dev thread I have to say that I hope that
Garret D'Amore is not correct in the assertion that OI (or any other
Illumos/opensolaris derived distribution with a graphical front end
userland) is a dead end.  I work with a Solaris or OI desktop every day and
yes, there are many things that would be nice to have, but the argument
that we just give up and use Apple laptops or whatnot as our front-end
systems seems a bit defeatist and reminds me of what we went through in
Unix land back when Windows NT first arrived in the data centre.

In my workplace we are still using some SPARC desktop applications on aging
Sun SPARC workstations and Tadpole laptops.  We also utilize Sun Ray
technology extensively in our training environment.  (As an aside, I
remember talking to Garrett back when he was working for Tadpole/General
Dynamics about specing out a Tadpole purchase for our portable Sun Ray
training classroom).  Our production servers are all running Solaris 10
(SPARC) and there are a couple of Solaris 11 (x86) servers I'm looking to
bring online soon.  I was hoping to complete our migration of our desktop
apps to OI running on x86 for out in the field, but I suppose we could just
continue on that road to a Linux desktop if we have to.  In theory we could
run our Sun Ray clients on a Linux server although I have not tried setting
that up.  I'm not sure how much help Oracle would be willing to provide if
we were not running Oracle Linux.  I would prefer to remain in the
Solaris/Illumos/OI world though.

- Ron

On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 3:31 AM, Dave Koelmeyer 
dave.koelme...@davekoelmeyer.co.nz wrote:

 On 31/08/12 01:10 PM, Alan Coopersmith wrote:

 On 08/30/12 06:08 PM, Dave Koelmeyer wrote:

 And the farewell message (if you can call it that) here:

 http://lwn.net/Articles/**514046/ http://lwn.net/Articles/514046/

 http://openindiana.org/**pipermail/oi-dev/2012-August/**thread.htmlhttp://openindiana.org/pipermail/oi-dev/2012-August/thread.htmlhas
  the original
 message and responses on the developer list.

  Interesting, although I can't post to that list.

 It's sad and disappointing and understandable and all that for the project
 lead to quit, but seriously: waking up this morning to read without warning
 that I was a bonehead for ever considering OpenIndiana, and that the hours,
 and hours, and hours I dedicated to evangelizing OpenIndiana was actually
 stupid because at the end of the day Linux is good enough? Well, I
 sincerely hope *this* is final:

  From:  Alasdair Lumsden alasdairrr-AT-gmail.com
  To:  oi-dev-AT-openindiana.org
 
  ...I have no wish to return to the project in a leadership capacity.


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[OpenIndiana-discuss] NVIDIA Quadro 2000 1 Gbyte Graphics Card

[ron . dawson]

Has anyone used OI with a NVIDIA Quadro 2000 graphics card?  I'm looking to 
pick up a couple of workstations for development work and the options for 
graphics card  are the Quadro 2000 or the Quadro 5000.

- Ron Dawson
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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Which compiler?

[Ron Dawson]

We use  use Sun/Solaris Studio 12.2 for our internal application
development IDE but for compiler options within Sun Studio we use gnu
gcc.   I've debated comparing the processing speed of gcc built binaries vs
Sun/Oracle compiler builds our our applications but haven't done that yet.

- Ron
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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] is the newly released orac-sol 11 an advance compared to oi?

[Ron Dawson]

Can we run OI on UltraSPARC?  I thought it was still only x86?  I have a
number of old SunFire V250s, V240 and V440 that I'd be interested in
keeping going for a while longer yet.  I had missed the notice about the
official Solaris 11 not working on UltraSPARC III/IV.


On Thu, Nov 10, 2011 at 4:25 PM, Daniel Kjar dk...@elmira.edu wrote:

 Come to think of it... do you think OI will be able to continue supporting
 usparcIII if Oracle doesn't?  I don't really care since I really should
 retire that beast but others might like to know.


 On 11/10/11 02:14 PM, Alan Coopersmith wrote:

 On 11/10/11 11:09, Daniel Kjar wrote:

 First thing I noticed when I tried to install it on my blade1000 was that
 support for ultrasparc III is now gone. Won't even let you install.


 Yes, that was announced a while ago on the EOF pages.   Support for
 32-bit x86 and UltraSPARC II/III/IV CPU's were dropped for Solaris 11.


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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] firefox 7

[Ron Dawson]

Firefox 7 has been working mostly fine on OI 151 for me.  The only issue for
me has been with the java plugin which can sometimes cause a crash, but I've
seen the same problem on some Fedora based  Firefox installations as well.

On Sun, Oct 9, 2011 at 6:21 AM, Maxim Kondratovich maxim@gmail.comwrote:

 I use Firefox 7 on OI_148 without any problems.


 *From:* Apostolos Syropoulos asyropou...@yahoo.com
 *Sent:* Sunday, October 09, 2011 08:44 (UTC+0300)
 *To:* openindiana 
 openindiana-discuss@**openindiana.orgopenindiana-discuss@openindiana.org
 
 *Subject:* [OpenIndiana-discuss] firefox 7




   Hello,

  I have noticed that firefox 7 and 7.01 crashes on OI_148
 all the time. Has anyone successfully used this version on OI?

 A.S.


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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Wiki Comment Spam

[Ron Dawson]

The main reason I can see for allowing anonymous comments is because not
everyone has an account and they'd still like to contribute feedback to
things such as the HCL portions of the wiki.  Yes, there is a process for
requesting accounts, but in my own experience I never got a response back so
gave up requesting one.

On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 8:04 PM, Roy Sigurd Karlsbakk r...@karlsbakk.netwrote:

  Seems we were being hit by a spambot for the last two days,
  thanks for the pointer. I've deleted the spam comments and
  somebody else already seems to have enabled CAPTCHAS for
  anonymous comments. If this isn't sufficient I guess we have to
  restrict commenting to logged in users.

 There are more spam already. Why should we allow for anonymous comments in
 such a place anyway?

 Vennlige hilsener / Best regards

 roy
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 er et elementært imperativ for alle pedagoger å unngå eksessiv anvendelse av
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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Solaris 11 Express

[Ron Dawson]

I'd have to agree with Paul.  Even though I've been disappointed by quite a
few things they've done since the acquisition, I'm still interested in what
Oracle has to say regarding Solaris 11.  I still need to decide on a
post-Sun road map for a number of systems so I'd be interested in hearing
all of the options be it Solaris 11 or OpenIndiana.

- Ron

On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 2:12 PM, Paul Johnston 
paul.a.johns...@manchester.ac.uk wrote:

 I didn't intend to start this to knock anyone or anything just if anyone
 does go I would be particularly interested in what Cindy Swearingen has
 to say about ZFS and what version/features are released (encryption for
 example)

 Paul

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  this discussion is pointless - imo.

 I totally agree. IMHO, we should not care about what happens
 to Oracle.

 A.S.


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