Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] VirtualBox v5.1.0 on hipster lastest
13 июля 2016 г. 19:34:28 CEST, russell пишет: >Hi, > >I tried to install VirtualBox v5.1.0 and got the following error > > > > ># pkgadd -d ./VirtualBox-5.1.0-SunOS-amd64-r108711.pkg > >The following packages are available: > 1 SUNWvbox Oracle VM VirtualBox > (i386) 5.1.0,REV=2016.07.12.17.08.108711 > >Select package(s) you wish to process (or 'all' to process >all packages). (default: all) [?,??,q]: > >Processing package instance from > > >Oracle VM VirtualBox(i386) 5.1.0,REV=2016.07.12.17.08.108711 >Oracle Corporation >## Executing checkinstall script. >Checking package dependencies... >## Missing packages: >## IPS : system/library/gcc/gcc-c++-runtime or >system/library/gcc-45-runtime system/library/gcc/gcc-c-runtime or >system/library/gcc-45-runtime >## SVr4: SUNWPython SUNWPython-devel >## >## Please install either the IPS or SVr4 packages before installing >VirtualBox. >pkgadd: ERROR: checkinstall script did not complete successfully > >Installation of failed. >No changes were made to the system. > > > > > >Regards > >Russell > >___ >openindiana-discuss mailing list >openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org >http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss Did you try to modify the preinstall script (in a way similar to my instructions for changing vboxconfig.sh) e.g. to comment away these checks - would it install then, or would it die at a later stage (perhaps at runtime if libs are sufficiently different)? Jim -- Typos courtesy of K-9 Mail on my Samsung Android ___ openindiana-discuss mailing list openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] VirtualBox v5.1.0 on hipster lastest
Hi, anyone interested in packaging virtualbox? That would help everybody. Cheers, Adam > On Jul 13, 2016, at 8:00 PM, Jim Klimov wrote: > > 13 июля 2016 г. 19:34:28 CEST, russell пишет: >> Hi, >> >> I tried to install VirtualBox v5.1.0 and got the following error >> >> >> >> >> # pkgadd -d ./VirtualBox-5.1.0-SunOS-amd64-r108711.pkg >> >> The following packages are available: >> 1 SUNWvbox Oracle VM VirtualBox >> (i386) 5.1.0,REV=2016.07.12.17.08.108711 >> >> Select package(s) you wish to process (or 'all' to process >> all packages). (default: all) [?,??,q]: >> >> Processing package instance from >> >> >> Oracle VM VirtualBox(i386) 5.1.0,REV=2016.07.12.17.08.108711 >> Oracle Corporation >> ## Executing checkinstall script. >> Checking package dependencies... >> ## Missing packages: >> ## IPS : system/library/gcc/gcc-c++-runtime or >> system/library/gcc-45-runtime system/library/gcc/gcc-c-runtime or >> system/library/gcc-45-runtime >> ## SVr4: SUNWPython SUNWPython-devel >> ## >> ## Please install either the IPS or SVr4 packages before installing >> VirtualBox. >> pkgadd: ERROR: checkinstall script did not complete successfully >> >> Installation of failed. >> No changes were made to the system. >> >> >> >> >> >> Regards >> >> Russell >> >> ___ >> openindiana-discuss mailing list >> openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org >> http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss > > Did you try to modify the preinstall script (in a way similar to my > instructions for changing vboxconfig.sh) e.g. to comment away these checks - > would it install then, or would it die at a later stage (perhaps at runtime > if libs are sufficiently different)? > > Jim > -- > Typos courtesy of K-9 Mail on my Samsung Android > > ___ > openindiana-discuss mailing list > openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org > http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss signature.asc Description: Message signed with OpenPGP using GPGMail ___ openindiana-discuss mailing list openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] VirtualBox v5.1.0 on hipster lastest
Adam Števko writes: > anyone interested in packaging virtualbox? That would help everybody. I have not followed any of the upstream virtualbox mailing lists. Does anyone know why they publish only a SVR4 package for Solaris? That package is IPS-aware and checks several IPS dependencies under Solaris 11. As far as I can tell, the SVR4 package would have to be converted to an IPS package, and the various scripts run during pkgadd would have to be merged in an SMF assembly service. Some amount of work, but certainly doable. Regards -- Volker -- Volker A. Brandt Consulting and Support for Oracle Solaris Brandt & Brandt Computer GmbH WWW: http://www.bb-c.de/ Am Wiesenpfad 6, 53340 Meckenheim, GERMANYEmail: v...@bb-c.de Handelsregister: Amtsgericht Bonn, HRB 10513 Schuhgröße: 46 Geschäftsführer: Rainer J.H. Brandt und Volker A. Brandt "When logic and proportion have fallen sloppy dead" ___ openindiana-discuss mailing list openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] VirtualBox v5.1.0 on hipster lastest
On 13/07/2016 22:24, Volker A. Brandt wrote: Adam Števko writes: anyone interested in packaging virtualbox? That would help everybody. I have not followed any of the upstream virtualbox mailing lists. Does anyone know why they publish only a SVR4 package for Solaris? That package is IPS-aware and checks several IPS dependencies under Solaris 11. As far as I can tell, the SVR4 package would have to be converted to an IPS package, and the various scripts run during pkgadd would have to be merged in an SMF assembly service. Some amount of work, but certainly doable. That's partly why it wasn't done - the SVR4 package is a mixture of installation and configuration, but for IPS these two have to be separated out. Also, they would then have needed two installers, one for Solaris 10 and one for Solaris 11. Sticking with SVR4 meant they didn't need to resolve either of these issues. -- Andrew ___ openindiana-discuss mailing list openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] VirtualBox v5.1.0 on hipster lastest
On 07/13/16 07:34 PM, russell wrote: Hi, I tried to install VirtualBox v5.1.0 and got the following error # pkgadd -d ./VirtualBox-5.1.0-SunOS-amd64-r108711.pkg The following packages are available: 1 SUNWvbox Oracle VM VirtualBox (i386) 5.1.0,REV=2016.07.12.17.08.108711 Select package(s) you wish to process (or 'all' to process all packages). (default: all) [?,??,q]: Processing package instance from Oracle VM VirtualBox(i386) 5.1.0,REV=2016.07.12.17.08.108711 Oracle Corporation ## Executing checkinstall script. Checking package dependencies... ## Missing packages: ## IPS : system/library/gcc/gcc-c++-runtime or system/library/gcc-45-runtime system/library/gcc/gcc-c-runtime or system/library/gcc-45-runtime ## SVr4: SUNWPython SUNWPython-devel ## ## Please install either the IPS or SVr4 packages before installing VirtualBox. pkgadd: ERROR: checkinstall script did not complete successfully Installation of failed. No changes were made to the system. Even if you manage to install it, you might need QT5: https://www.illumos.org/issues/7145 Which we do not have yet... With best regards. Predrag Zečević Regards Russell ___ openindiana-discuss mailing list openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss -- Predrag Zečević Technical Support Analyst 2e Systems GmbH Telephone: +49 6196 9505 815, Facsimile: +49 6196 9505 894 Mobile:+49 174 3109 288, Skype: predrag.zecevic E-mail:predrag.zece...@2e-systems.com Headquarter: 2e Systems GmbH, Königsteiner Str. 87, 65812 Bad Soden am Taunus, Germany Company registration: Amtsgericht Königstein (Germany), HRB 7303 Managing director:Phil Douglas http://www.2e-systems.com/ - Making your business fly! ___ openindiana-discuss mailing list openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] VirtualBox v5.1.0 on hipster lastest
Hi I have the same problem on Xstreamos, did you find a solution ? Thank you Paolo On 07/13/16 07:34 PM, russell wrote: Hi, I tried to install VirtualBox v5.1.0 and got the following error # pkgadd -d ./VirtualBox-5.1.0-SunOS-amd64-r108711.pkg The following packages are available: 1 SUNWvbox Oracle VM VirtualBox (i386) 5.1.0,REV=2016.07.12.17.08.108711 Select package(s) you wish to process (or 'all' to process all packages). (default: all) [?,??,q]: Processing package instance from Oracle VM VirtualBox(i386) 5.1.0,REV=2016.07.12.17.08.108711 Oracle Corporation ## Executing checkinstall script. Checking package dependencies... ## Missing packages: ## IPS : system/library/gcc/gcc-c++-runtime or system/library/gcc-45-runtime system/library/gcc/gcc-c-runtime or system/library/gcc-45-runtime ## SVr4: SUNWPython SUNWPython-devel ## ## Please install either the IPS or SVr4 packages before installing VirtualBox. pkgadd: ERROR: checkinstall script did not complete successfully Installation of failed. No changes were made to the system. Regards Russell ___ openindiana-discuss mailing list openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss ___ openindiana-discuss mailing list openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org https://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] VirtualBox v5.1.0 on hipster lastest
On 09/ 8/16 02:30 PM, Paolo Marcheschi wrote: Hi I have the same problem on Xstreamos, did you find a solution ? Thank you Paolo On 07/13/16 07:34 PM, russell wrote: Hi, I tried to install VirtualBox v5.1.0 and got the following error # pkgadd -d ./VirtualBox-5.1.0-SunOS-amd64-r108711.pkg The following packages are available: 1 SUNWvbox Oracle VM VirtualBox (i386) 5.1.0,REV=2016.07.12.17.08.108711 Select package(s) you wish to process (or 'all' to process all packages). (default: all) [?,??,q]: Processing package instance from Oracle VM VirtualBox(i386) 5.1.0,REV=2016.07.12.17.08.108711 Oracle Corporation ## Executing checkinstall script. Checking package dependencies... ## Missing packages: ## IPS : system/library/gcc/gcc-c++-runtime or system/library/gcc-45-runtime system/library/gcc/gcc-c-runtime or system/library/gcc-45-runtime ## SVr4: SUNWPython SUNWPython-devel ## ## Please install either the IPS or SVr4 packages before installing VirtualBox. pkgadd: ERROR: checkinstall script did not complete successfully Installation of failed. No changes were made to the system. Regards Russell Hi, QT5 is required for VirtualBox 5.1 (https://www.illumos.org/issues/7145) Regards. ___ openindiana-discuss mailing list openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss ___ openindiana-discuss mailing list openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org https://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss -- Predrag Zečević Technical Support Analyst 2e Systems GmbH Telephone: +49 6196 9505 815, Facsimile: +49 6196 9505 894 Mobile:+49 174 3109 288, Skype: predrag.zecevic E-mail:predrag.zece...@2e-systems.com Headquarter: 2e Systems GmbH, Königsteiner Str. 87, 65812 Bad Soden am Taunus, Germany Company registration: Amtsgericht Königstein (Germany), HRB 7303 Managing director:Phil Douglas http://www.2e-systems.com/ - Making your business fly! ___ openindiana-discuss mailing list openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org https://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] VirtualBox v5.1.0 on hipster lastest
On Thu, Sep 8, 2016 at 2:35 PM, Predrag Zečević - Unix Systems Administrator wrote: > On 09/ 8/16 02:30 PM, Paolo Marcheschi wrote: >> >> Hi >> >> I have the same problem on Xstreamos, did you find a solution ? >> >> Thank you >> >> >> Paolo >> >> >> On 07/13/16 07:34 PM, russell wrote: >>> >>> Hi, >>> >>> I tried to install VirtualBox v5.1.0 and got the following error >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> # pkgadd -d ./VirtualBox-5.1.0-SunOS-amd64-r108711.pkg >>> >>> The following packages are available: >>> 1 SUNWvbox Oracle VM VirtualBox >>> (i386) 5.1.0,REV=2016.07.12.17.08.108711 >>> >>> Select package(s) you wish to process (or 'all' to process >>> all packages). (default: all) [?,??,q]: >>> >>> Processing package instance from >>> >>> >>> Oracle VM VirtualBox(i386) 5.1.0,REV=2016.07.12.17.08.108711 >>> Oracle Corporation >>> ## Executing checkinstall script. >>> Checking package dependencies... >>> ## Missing packages: >>> ## IPS : system/library/gcc/gcc-c++-runtime or >>> system/library/gcc-45-runtime system/library/gcc/gcc-c-runtime or >>> system/library/gcc-45-runtime >>> ## SVr4: SUNWPython SUNWPython-devel >>> ## >>> ## Please install either the IPS or SVr4 packages before installing >>> VirtualBox. >>> pkgadd: ERROR: checkinstall script did not complete successfully >>> >>> Installation of failed. >>> No changes were made to the system. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Regards >>> >>> Russell >>> > > > Hi, > > QT5 is required for VirtualBox 5.1 (https://www.illumos.org/issues/7145) Someone should volunteer for packaging QT5. There are existing build recipes for Tribblix and pkgsrc. On thing though is that, according to a friend, it is worth looking at 5.8 right now as it will be released in November and brings major changes. > Regards. > >>> ___ >>> openindiana-discuss mailing list >>> openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org >>> http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss >>> >> >> ___ >> openindiana-discuss mailing list >> openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org >> https://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss >> > > -- > Predrag Zečević > Technical Support Analyst > 2e Systems GmbH > > Telephone: +49 6196 9505 815, Facsimile: +49 6196 9505 894 > Mobile:+49 174 3109 288, Skype: predrag.zecevic > E-mail:predrag.zece...@2e-systems.com > > Headquarter: 2e Systems GmbH, Königsteiner Str. 87, > 65812 Bad Soden am Taunus, Germany > Company registration: Amtsgericht Königstein (Germany), HRB 7303 > Managing director:Phil Douglas > > http://www.2e-systems.com/ - Making your business fly! > > ___ > openindiana-discuss mailing list > openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org > https://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss -- --- Praise the Caffeine embeddings ___ openindiana-discuss mailing list openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org https://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] VirtualBox v5.1.0 on hipster lastest
On Thu, Sep 8, 2016 at 2:38 PM, Aurélien Larcher wrote: > On Thu, Sep 8, 2016 at 2:35 PM, Predrag Zečević - Unix Systems > Administrator wrote: >> On 09/ 8/16 02:30 PM, Paolo Marcheschi wrote: >>> >>> Hi >>> >>> I have the same problem on Xstreamos, did you find a solution ? >>> >>> Thank you >>> >>> >>> Paolo >>> >>> >>> On 07/13/16 07:34 PM, russell wrote: Hi, I tried to install VirtualBox v5.1.0 and got the following error # pkgadd -d ./VirtualBox-5.1.0-SunOS-amd64-r108711.pkg The following packages are available: 1 SUNWvbox Oracle VM VirtualBox (i386) 5.1.0,REV=2016.07.12.17.08.108711 Select package(s) you wish to process (or 'all' to process all packages). (default: all) [?,??,q]: Processing package instance from Oracle VM VirtualBox(i386) 5.1.0,REV=2016.07.12.17.08.108711 Oracle Corporation ## Executing checkinstall script. Checking package dependencies... ## Missing packages: ## IPS : system/library/gcc/gcc-c++-runtime or system/library/gcc-45-runtime system/library/gcc/gcc-c-runtime or system/library/gcc-45-runtime ## SVr4: SUNWPython SUNWPython-devel ## ## Please install either the IPS or SVr4 packages before installing VirtualBox. pkgadd: ERROR: checkinstall script did not complete successfully Installation of failed. No changes were made to the system. Regards Russell >> >> >> Hi, >> >> QT5 is required for VirtualBox 5.1 (https://www.illumos.org/issues/7145) > > Someone should volunteer for packaging QT5. > There are existing build recipes for Tribblix and pkgsrc. > > On thing though is that, according to a friend, it is worth looking at > 5.8 right now as it will be released in November and brings major > changes. Other solution: if someone takes over the SFW/G11N stuff I can look at it. > > > >> Regards. >> ___ openindiana-discuss mailing list openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss >>> >>> ___ >>> openindiana-discuss mailing list >>> openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org >>> https://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss >>> >> >> -- >> Predrag Zečević >> Technical Support Analyst >> 2e Systems GmbH >> >> Telephone: +49 6196 9505 815, Facsimile: +49 6196 9505 894 >> Mobile:+49 174 3109 288, Skype: predrag.zecevic >> E-mail:predrag.zece...@2e-systems.com >> >> Headquarter: 2e Systems GmbH, Königsteiner Str. 87, >> 65812 Bad Soden am Taunus, Germany >> Company registration: Amtsgericht Königstein (Germany), HRB 7303 >> Managing director:Phil Douglas >> >> http://www.2e-systems.com/ - Making your business fly! >> >> ___ >> openindiana-discuss mailing list >> openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org >> https://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss > > > > -- > --- > Praise the Caffeine embeddings -- --- Praise the Caffeine embeddings ___ openindiana-discuss mailing list openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org https://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] VirtualBox v5.1.0 on hipster lastest
On Thu, Sep 8, 2016 at 1:35 PM, Predrag Zečević - Unix Systems Administrator wrote: > QT5 is required for VirtualBox 5.1 (https://www.illumos.org/issues/7145) > Not so. VirtualBox 5.1 includes QT5; the problem is that it doesn't work right. I'm wondering if this is another case of 5709/7165. It looks like the VirtualBox binaries were built on S10U10, as they're looking for asprintf. https://www.illumos.org/issues/5709 -- -Peter Tribble http://www.petertribble.co.uk/ - http://ptribble.blogspot.com/ ___ openindiana-discuss mailing list openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org https://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] VirtualBox v5.1.0 on hipster lastest
Hi, perhaps it is time to start compiling virtualbox ourselves to avoid any such problems? I also wonder what problems would we see thanks to illumos identifying itself as Solaris 11. Any volunteer on this? It would be good to sync up with tomww of SFE on this. (I talked to him some time ago that when he had nothing left to package, he could have a look on vbox as it will be much easier for everyone). Cheers, Adam > On 08 Sep 2016, at 15:32, Peter Tribble wrote: > > On Thu, Sep 8, 2016 at 1:35 PM, Predrag Zečević - Unix Systems > Administrator wrote: > > >> QT5 is required for VirtualBox 5.1 (https://www.illumos.org/issues/7145) > > Not so. VirtualBox 5.1 includes QT5; the problem is that it doesn't work > right. > > I'm wondering if this is another case of 5709/7165. It looks like the > VirtualBox > binaries were built on S10U10, as they're looking for asprintf. > > https://www.illumos.org/issues/5709 > > -- > -Peter Tribble > http://www.petertribble.co.uk/ - http://ptribble.blogspot.com/ > ___ > openindiana-discuss mailing list > openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org > https://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss ___ openindiana-discuss mailing list openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org https://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] VirtualBox v5.1.0 on hipster lastest
Hello, as for building vbox in hipster gate, that wouldn't be difficult and if you want I could add that from my old opensxce-userland gate. I built it in userland in 2014 when I still planned to bring out OpenSXCE2014.11 And together with Juergen Keil I was the initiator of the q...@opensolaris.org project and one of the first who ever (at the time only partially) built vbox on Solaris hosts even before Sun aqquired Innotech/VirtualBox for 20 Million $ (when Solaris still wasn't supported as host and when most build tools for vbox still weren't available for Solaris). The somewhat scary question in that case however is Oracle's dual-licensing policy: On one hand they say it is gpl, unless exactly then when they decide it does not fall under gpl for a given distributor. The 2nd question is, which benefit do you promise yourself from it. And point #3: I can prove you in many ways that OpenSolaris is still most compatible to SunOS5.11 aka Solaris 11.0 (rather than to anything else). So perhaps rather don't start to repeat this well-known trumpet's tones. Mind the implications this would have: It would break compatibility with most configuration frameworks, only because a few persons think they created Solaris 13 by adding NIC and SATA drivers plus delete-engineering large chunks. If you don't believe that it is mostly Sollaris 11.0, how would drivers still be swappable (technically [not legally] speaking) with 11.0? -- Martin Bochnig >Пятница, 9 сентября 2016, 8:06 UTC от Adam Števko : > >Hi, > >perhaps it is time to start compiling virtualbox ourselves to avoid any such >problems? I also wonder what problems would we see thanks to illumos >identifying itself as Solaris 11. Any volunteer on this? > >It would be good to sync up with tomww of SFE on this. (I talked to him some >time ago that when he had nothing left to package, he could have a look on >vbox as it will be much easier for everyone). > >Cheers, >Adam > >> On 08 Sep 2016, at 15:32, Peter Tribble < peter.trib...@gmail.com > wrote: >> >> On Thu, Sep 8, 2016 at 1:35 PM, Predrag Zečević - Unix Systems >> Administrator < predrag.zece...@2e-systems.com > wrote: >> >> >>> QT5 is required for VirtualBox 5.1 ( https://www.illumos.org/issues/7145 ) >> >> Not so. VirtualBox 5.1 includes QT5; the problem is that it doesn't work >> right. >> >> I'm wondering if this is another case of 5709/7165. It looks like the >> VirtualBox >> binaries were built on S10U10, as they're looking for asprintf. >> >> https://www.illumos.org/issues/5709 >> >> -- >> -Peter Tribble >> http://www.petertribble.co.uk/ - http://ptribble.blogspot.com/ >> ___ >> openindiana-discuss mailing list >> openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org >> https://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss > >___ >openindiana-discuss mailing list >openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org >https://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss ___ openindiana-discuss mailing list openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org https://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] VirtualBox v5.1.0 on hipster lastest
I forgot: The same stands for QT5. > Hello, > > as for building vbox in hipster gate, that wouldn't be difficult and if you > want I could add that from my old opensxce-userland gate. > I built it in userland in 2014 when I still planned to bring out > OpenSXCE2014.11 -- best regards %martin bochnig ___ openindiana-discuss mailing list openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org https://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] VirtualBox v5.1.0 on hipster lastest
9 сентября 2016 г. 11:59:59 CEST, "Мартин Бохниг via openindiana-discuss" пишет: >Hello, > >as for building vbox in hipster gate, that wouldn't be difficult and if >you want I could add that from my old opensxce-userland gate. >I built it in userland in 2014 when I still planned to bring out >OpenSXCE2014.11 >And together with Juergen Keil I was the initiator of the >q...@opensolaris.org project and one of the first who ever (at the time >only partially) built vbox on Solaris hosts even before Sun aqquired >Innotech/VirtualBox for 20 Million $ (when Solaris still wasn't >supported as host and when most build tools for vbox still weren't >available for Solaris). > >The somewhat scary question in that case however is Oracle's >dual-licensing policy: On one hand they say it is gpl, unless exactly >then when they decide it does not fall under gpl for a given >distributor. > >The 2nd question is, which benefit do you promise yourself from it. > >And point #3: I can prove you in many ways that OpenSolaris is still >most compatible to SunOS5.11 aka Solaris 11.0 (rather than to anything >else). >So perhaps rather don't start to repeat this well-known trumpet's >tones. >Mind the implications this would have: It would break compatibility >with most configuration frameworks, only because a few persons think >they created Solaris 13 by adding NIC and SATA drivers plus >delete-engineering large chunks. > >If you don't believe that it is mostly Sollaris 11.0, how would drivers >still be swappable (technically [not legally] speaking) with 11.0? > > >-- >Martin Bochnig > > > >>Пятница, 9 сентября 2016, 8:06 UTC от Adam Števko >: >> >>Hi, >> >>perhaps it is time to start compiling virtualbox ourselves to avoid >any such problems? I also wonder what problems would we see thanks to >illumos identifying itself as Solaris 11. Any volunteer on this? >> >>It would be good to sync up with tomww of SFE on this. (I talked to >him some time ago that when he had nothing left to package, he could >have a look on vbox as it will be much easier for everyone). >> >>Cheers, >>Adam >> >>> On 08 Sep 2016, at 15:32, Peter Tribble < peter.trib...@gmail.com > >wrote: >>> >>> On Thu, Sep 8, 2016 at 1:35 PM, Predrag Zečević - Unix Systems >>> Administrator < predrag.zece...@2e-systems.com > wrote: >>> >>> QT5 is required for VirtualBox 5.1 ( >https://www.illumos.org/issues/7145 ) >>> >>> Not so. VirtualBox 5.1 includes QT5; the problem is that it doesn't >work >>> right. >>> >>> I'm wondering if this is another case of 5709/7165. It looks like >the >>> VirtualBox >>> binaries were built on S10U10, as they're looking for asprintf. >>> >>> https://www.illumos.org/issues/5709 >>> >>> -- >>> -Peter Tribble >>> http://www.petertribble.co.uk/ - http://ptribble.blogspot.com/ >>> ___ >>> openindiana-discuss mailing list >>> openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org >>> https://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss >> >>___ >>openindiana-discuss mailing list >>openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org >>https://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss > >___ >openindiana-discuss mailing list >openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org >https://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss Hello Martin et al, Regarding the licensing, just to reduce the FUD level: GPL is just that and not revokable. If we follow the rules and comply to conditions of the license (redistribute source for redistributed binaries, in particular), the GPL applies. If one wants something else (e.g. add proprietary code in the core and rebrand) then they can negotiate for special terms with IP owner (Innotech->Sun->Oracle). Separate from that is the PUEL license that now applies only to the separate extensions download and use rights. As for benefits - primarily we can improve compatibility with our distro out of the box. Potentially we can also improve on some fronts that Oracle won't do for any reason (say, add VNC consoles instead of/in addition to vRDP), or enable codepaths that work on illumos but not on Solaris, or solve bugs (VBoxOGL.so brutely overriding Mesa libGL.so), or perhaps someone would develop something new first on OI Hipster. While there are many similarities between siblings like OI or OmniOS and Solaris 11, there are also significant differences, drivers notwithstanding - several of which do pop out with VirtualBox in particular. And over time there will likely be more. I too wanted to (build and) package VirtualBox for OI/Hipster for some time now, but would love if someone smarter beats me to it ;) Jim -- Typos courtesy of K-9 Mail on my Samsung Android ___ openindiana-discuss mailing list openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org https://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] VirtualBox v5.1.0 on hipster lastest
Jim, Apostolos, Ben, alp, friends, just spent the day in the sun with only 30 minutes hour of sleep but couldn't say "no". Thanks for your licensing correction, aha. How much I'm also tired of Oracle's special extra license games, but good to know that gpl is gpl (makes sense to me, too). After (or in the middle of) some sleep this night and an appointment tomorrow I will definitely search the old opensxce-userland gate on the backup pool. Then *WE* can create it together. Several persons have more eyes than 1 person. And for 1 person it is too much to always sync it with the latest bits from Oracle vbox OSE. So great, let's build vbox and qt5 ourselves from now on, as a team :) Till tomorrow evening with the old gate which I never completed because the packaging coversions back to SVR4 showed me at some point that it was nonsene not to use IPS right away (that's why I never finished and released it) Poka, %martin >Пятница, 9 сентября 2016, 12:45 UTC от Jim Klimov : > >9 сентября 2016 г. 11:59:59 CEST, "Мартин Бохниг via openindiana-discuss" < >openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org > пишет: >>Hello, >> >>as for building vbox in hipster gate, that wouldn't be difficult and if >>you want I could add that from my old opensxce-userland gate. >>I built it in userland in 2014 when I still planned to bring out >>OpenSXCE2014.11 >>And together with Juergen Keil I was the initiator of the >> q...@opensolaris.org project and one of the first who ever (at the time >>only partially) built vbox on Solaris hosts even before Sun aqquired >>Innotech/VirtualBox for 20 Million $ (when Solaris still wasn't >>supported as host and when most build tools for vbox still weren't >>available for Solaris). >> >>The somewhat scary question in that case however is Oracle's >>dual-licensing policy: On one hand they say it is gpl, unless exactly >>then when they decide it does not fall under gpl for a given >>distributor. >> >>The 2nd question is, which benefit do you promise yourself from it. >> >>And point #3: I can prove you in many ways that OpenSolaris is still >>most compatible to SunOS5.11 aka Solaris 11.0 (rather than to anything >>else). >>So perhaps rather don't start to repeat this well-known trumpet's >>tones. >>Mind the implications this would have: It would break compatibility >>with most configuration frameworks, only because a few persons think >>they created Solaris 13 by adding NIC and SATA drivers plus >>delete-engineering large chunks. >> >>If you don't believe that it is mostly Sollaris 11.0, how would drivers >>still be swappable (technically [not legally] speaking) with 11.0? >> >> >>-- >>Martin Bochnig >> >> >> >>>Пятница, 9 сентября 2016, 8:06 UTC от Adam Števko >>< adam.ste...@gmail.com >: >>> >>>Hi, >>> >>>perhaps it is time to start compiling virtualbox ourselves to avoid >>any such problems? I also wonder what problems would we see thanks to >>illumos identifying itself as Solaris 11. Any volunteer on this? >>> >>>It would be good to sync up with tomww of SFE on this. (I talked to >>him some time ago that when he had nothing left to package, he could >>have a look on vbox as it will be much easier for everyone). >>> >>>Cheers, >>>Adam >>> On 08 Sep 2016, at 15:32, Peter Tribble < peter.trib...@gmail.com > >>wrote: On Thu, Sep 8, 2016 at 1:35 PM, Predrag Zečević - Unix Systems Administrator < predrag.zece...@2e-systems.com > wrote: > QT5 is required for VirtualBox 5.1 ( >> https://www.illumos.org/issues/7145 ) Not so. VirtualBox 5.1 includes QT5; the problem is that it doesn't >>work right. I'm wondering if this is another case of 5709/7165. It looks like >>the VirtualBox binaries were built on S10U10, as they're looking for asprintf. https://www.illumos.org/issues/5709 -- -Peter Tribble http://www.petertribble.co.uk/ - http://ptribble.blogspot.com/ ___ openindiana-discuss mailing list openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org https://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss >>> >>>___ >>>openindiana-discuss mailing list >>> openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org >>> https://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss >> >>___ >>openindiana-discuss mailing list >> openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org >> https://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss > >Hello Martin et al, > >Regarding the licensing, just to reduce the FUD level: GPL is just that and >not revokable. If we follow the rules and comply to conditions of the license >(redistribute source for redistributed binaries, in particular), the GPL >applies. If one wants something else (e.g. add proprietary code in the core >and rebrand) then they can negotiate for special terms with IP owner >(Innotech->Sun->Oracle). > >Separate from that is the PUEL
