Re: [opensc-devel] OpenSC 12.0

2010-12-20 Thread Martin Paljak

On Dec 21, 2010, at 1:50 AM, Andre Zepezauer wrote:
> In other words, milestone 0.12.0 would be finished within the next view
> days. Good, no objections about that. But having the ticket system in a
> state, that reflects that fact would be nice too. According to the three
> points above, that means either closing tickets or pushing them forward
> to the next milestone.
> 
> How it was handled in the releases before?
It was not really handled systematically, as is visible from the quite many 
stale tickets from years ago.

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Re: [opensc-devel] OpenSC 12.0

2010-12-20 Thread Andre Zepezauer
On Mon, 2010-12-20 at 22:49 +0200, Martin Paljak wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> On Dec 20, 2010, at 7:10 PM, Andre Zepezauer wrote:
> > On Mon, 2010-12-20 at 17:42 +0200, Martin Paljak wrote:
> >> Hello,
> >> On Dec 20, 2010, at 4:58 PM, Brian Thomas wrote:
> >>> I’m just wondering if anybody has a good estimation as to when OpenSC 
> >>> 12.0 will be released as final?
> >> 
> >> There were some additional fixes to building without OpenSSL and with 
> >> Visual Studio [1]. Other than that, it seems to be ready. Unless there 
> >> will be other comments, it should be announced latest tomorrow evening.
> > 
> > what's about the active tickets [2]. Should we try to reduce them to a
> > minimum before the final release is announced? IMO not much would be
> > left, if we would handle them as follows:
> That would be nice, but if there's no feedback and it can't be independently 
> verified by somebody, it can just be left there for the defined grace period 
> and closed once it either times out or is claimed to be verified by somebody.
> 
> 
> > 1. #216 #220 #269 #291 and maybe more could be closed if there where a
> > final confirmation that states that things are working
> #216 should probably get some feedback from Linux packagers to be finally 
> settled, but that's something that will be visible once 0.12.0 is out. 
> Apparently nobody volunteered to provide sample Debian packages...  A 
> suggestion "Do your packages with pcsc-lite support by default" would 
> probably do good. But the issue is resolved by now, yes. For the rest the 
> previous comment should be sficient?
> 
> > 2. moving all the enhancements/supports forward to 0.12.1, because it's
> > unlikely that they get fixed in 0.12.0
> Support tickets should be discarded. As said, "support" category is only 
> meant for administrative categorization purposes..
> 
> 
> > 3. finding a solutions for all the remaining tickets. That could be:
> > * fixing them now or
> > * fixing them in 0.12.1
> Best effort basis for 0.12.X onwards. Should push out the 0.12 before 
> Christmas.

In other words, milestone 0.12.0 would be finished within the next view
days. Good, no objections about that. But having the ticket system in a
state, that reflects that fact would be nice too. According to the three
points above, that means either closing tickets or pushing them forward
to the next milestone.

How it was handled in the releases before?

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Re: [opensc-devel] OpenSC 12.0

2010-12-20 Thread Martin Paljak
Hi,

On Dec 20, 2010, at 7:10 PM, Andre Zepezauer wrote:
> On Mon, 2010-12-20 at 17:42 +0200, Martin Paljak wrote:
>> Hello,
>> On Dec 20, 2010, at 4:58 PM, Brian Thomas wrote:
>>> I’m just wondering if anybody has a good estimation as to when OpenSC 12.0 
>>> will be released as final?
>> 
>> There were some additional fixes to building without OpenSSL and with Visual 
>> Studio [1]. Other than that, it seems to be ready. Unless there will be 
>> other comments, it should be announced latest tomorrow evening.
> 
> what's about the active tickets [2]. Should we try to reduce them to a
> minimum before the final release is announced? IMO not much would be
> left, if we would handle them as follows:
That would be nice, but if there's no feedback and it can't be independently 
verified by somebody, it can just be left there for the defined grace period 
and closed once it either times out or is claimed to be verified by somebody.


> 1. #216 #220 #269 #291 and maybe more could be closed if there where a
> final confirmation that states that things are working
#216 should probably get some feedback from Linux packagers to be finally 
settled, but that's something that will be visible once 0.12.0 is out. 
Apparently nobody volunteered to provide sample Debian packages...  A 
suggestion "Do your packages with pcsc-lite support by default" would probably 
do good. But the issue is resolved by now, yes. For the rest the previous 
comment should be sficient?

> 2. moving all the enhancements/supports forward to 0.12.1, because it's
> unlikely that they get fixed in 0.12.0
Support tickets should be discarded. As said, "support" category is only meant 
for administrative categorization purposes..


> 3. finding a solutions for all the remaining tickets. That could be:
>   * fixing them now or
>   * fixing them in 0.12.1
Best effort basis for 0.12.X onwards. Should push out the 0.12 before Christmas.

Cheers.

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Re: [opensc-devel] Windows 7 support for PKCS#11 => mini-driver

2010-12-20 Thread Douglas E. Engert


On 12/20/2010 12:37 PM, Andreas Jellinghaus wrote:
> Am Montag 20 Dezember 2010, um 15:35:31 schrieb Douglas E. Engert:
>> On 12/20/2010 12:39 AM, Nikolay Elenkov wrote:
>>> On 2010/12/20 15:23, Andreas Jellinghaus wrote:
 2.) a PKCS-CSP such as the ID-Ally CSP, CSP#11 or PKCSCP - all these

   packages implement a CSP, but they don't talk to the smart card
   directly. Instead they load a pkcs#11 plugin to do that, such as
   opensc-pkcs11.so
>>
>> There is also coolkey, that can call PKCS#11. Works better with a few
>> mods...
>
> Coolkey CSP is the open source'd ID Ally CSP as far as I know.
>
> The ID Ally CSP always worked well for me.

I have used both as well.

Coolkey CSP has: "Copyright © 2003-2005 Identity Alliance"
It has not been updated since February 2007.

http://www.directory.fedora.redhat.com/wiki/CoolKey
says abount the coolkey PKCS#11 module:
  "In addition CoolKey PKCS #11 provides access to CAC cards,
   and in the future PIV compliant cards."

Since The CAC cards are being phased out, in favor of dual
CAC and PIV cards then to PIV only cards and Windows 7 has
a built in PIV minidriver. it is not very likly that coolkey
pkcs#11 will be updated.

The coolkey CSP had hard coded in the name of the coolkey
PKCS11 module. The mods I sent to OpenSC in 2009 addressed
this issue as well as some others.

The minidriver for OpenSC might be a good choice for OpenSC
for other cards.

>
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Re: [opensc-devel] Windows 7 support for PKCS#11 => mini-driver

2010-12-20 Thread Andreas Jellinghaus
Am Montag 20 Dezember 2010, um 15:35:31 schrieb Douglas E. Engert:
> On 12/20/2010 12:39 AM, Nikolay Elenkov wrote:
> > On 2010/12/20 15:23, Andreas Jellinghaus wrote:
> >> 2.) a PKCS-CSP such as the ID-Ally CSP, CSP#11 or PKCSCP - all these
> >> 
> >>  packages implement a CSP, but they don't talk to the smart card
> >>  directly. Instead they load a pkcs#11 plugin to do that, such as
> >>  opensc-pkcs11.so
> 
> There is also coolkey, that can call PKCS#11. Works better with a few
> mods...

Coolkey CSP is the open source'd ID Ally CSP as far as I know.

The ID Ally CSP always worked well for me.

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Re: [opensc-devel] OpenSC 12.0

2010-12-20 Thread Martin Paljak
On Mon, Dec 20, 2010 at 19:21, Brian Thomas  wrote:
> All,
>
> I have one additional concern.  With OpenSC version 0.11.13, the Muscle 
> applet appeared to work just fine.  When I tried version 12, OpenSC does not 
> talk to the Muscle card at all:  "Unsupported Card".  Any words of wisdom?

The problem with MuscleApplet is the number of variations it can be
built as and the number of different cards it can be loaded to.

From where did you get the source, how did you compile it, onto which
card did you load it?

Do you have a log of the APDU-s you used, or which OpenSC uses?
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Re: [opensc-devel] Windows 7 support for PKCS#11 => mini-driver

2010-12-20 Thread Andreas Jellinghaus
Am Montag 20 Dezember 2010, um 07:39:43 schrieb Nikolay Elenkov:
> On 2010/12/20 15:23, Andreas Jellinghaus wrote:
> > 2.) a PKCS-CSP such as the ID-Ally CSP, CSP#11 or PKCSCP - all these
> > 
> > packages implement a CSP, but they don't talk to the smart card
> > directly. Instead they load a pkcs#11 plugin to do that, such as
> > opensc-pkcs11.so
> 
> Forgot all about those. Are any of those still supported? Last I checked
> was maybe a couple of years ago and they were pretty much dead.

ID Ally CSP worked ok for me. An open source version is available in redhat
or fedora as coolkey CSP as far as I know. I haven't tried anything later
than XP however, and did only basic testing back then.

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Re: [opensc-devel] OpenSC 12.0

2010-12-20 Thread Brian Thomas
All,

I have one additional concern.  With OpenSC version 0.11.13, the Muscle applet 
appeared to work just fine.  When I tried version 12, OpenSC does not talk to 
the Muscle card at all:  "Unsupported Card".  Any words of wisdom?

Thanks,
Brian Thomas

-Original Message-
From: Andre Zepezauer [mailto:andre.zepeza...@student.uni-halle.de] 
Sent: Monday, December 20, 2010 11:11 AM
To: Martin Paljak
Cc: Brian Thomas; opensc-devel@lists.opensc-project.org
Subject: Re: [opensc-devel] OpenSC 12.0

Hello Martin,

On Mon, 2010-12-20 at 17:42 +0200, Martin Paljak wrote:
> Hello,
> On Dec 20, 2010, at 4:58 PM, Brian Thomas wrote:
> > I’m just wondering if anybody has a good estimation as to when OpenSC 12.0 
> > will be released as final?
> 
> There were some additional fixes to building without OpenSSL and with Visual 
> Studio [1]. Other than that, it seems to be ready. Unless there will be other 
> comments, it should be announced latest tomorrow evening.

what's about the active tickets [2]. Should we try to reduce them to a
minimum before the final release is announced? IMO not much would be
left, if we would handle them as follows:

1. #216 #220 #269 #291 and maybe more could be closed if there where a
final confirmation that states that things are working

2. moving all the enhancements/supports forward to 0.12.1, because it's
unlikely that they get fixed in 0.12.0

3. finding a solutions for all the remaining tickets. That could be:
* fixing them now or
* fixing them in 0.12.1

@All:
Other ideas about how to handle the active tickets relating to 0.12.0?

Regards
Andre

> [1] 
> http://www.opensc-project.org/opensc/log/trunk?action=stop_on_copy&mode=stop_on_copy&rev=4979&stop_rev=4961&limit=100
[2] 
http://www.opensc-project.org/opensc/query?status=assigned&status=new&status=reopened&group=status&milestone=0.12.0

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Re: [opensc-devel] OpenSC 12.0

2010-12-20 Thread Andre Zepezauer
Hello Martin,

On Mon, 2010-12-20 at 17:42 +0200, Martin Paljak wrote:
> Hello,
> On Dec 20, 2010, at 4:58 PM, Brian Thomas wrote:
> > I’m just wondering if anybody has a good estimation as to when OpenSC 12.0 
> > will be released as final?
> 
> There were some additional fixes to building without OpenSSL and with Visual 
> Studio [1]. Other than that, it seems to be ready. Unless there will be other 
> comments, it should be announced latest tomorrow evening.

what's about the active tickets [2]. Should we try to reduce them to a
minimum before the final release is announced? IMO not much would be
left, if we would handle them as follows:

1. #216 #220 #269 #291 and maybe more could be closed if there where a
final confirmation that states that things are working

2. moving all the enhancements/supports forward to 0.12.1, because it's
unlikely that they get fixed in 0.12.0

3. finding a solutions for all the remaining tickets. That could be:
* fixing them now or
* fixing them in 0.12.1

@All:
Other ideas about how to handle the active tickets relating to 0.12.0?

Regards
Andre

> [1] 
> http://www.opensc-project.org/opensc/log/trunk?action=stop_on_copy&mode=stop_on_copy&rev=4979&stop_rev=4961&limit=100
[2] 
http://www.opensc-project.org/opensc/query?status=assigned&status=new&status=reopened&group=status&milestone=0.12.0

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Re: [opensc-devel] OpenSC 12.0

2010-12-20 Thread Martin Paljak
Hello,
On Dec 20, 2010, at 4:58 PM, Brian Thomas wrote:
> I’m just wondering if anybody has a good estimation as to when OpenSC 12.0 
> will be released as final?

There were some additional fixes to building without OpenSSL and with Visual 
Studio [1]. Other than that, it seems to be ready. Unless there will be other 
comments, it should be announced latest tomorrow evening.

>  Also, the Feitian FTCOS/PK-01C works with RC2 however, it appears that only 
> a single Pin for everything (user, Security Officer, PUK) is supported.  Is 
> this true?
Yes, AFAIK entersafe driver supports just a single PIN.


[1] 
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[opensc-devel] OpenSC 12.0

2010-12-20 Thread Brian Thomas
Hello,

 

I'm just wondering if anybody has a good estimation as to when OpenSC
12.0 will be released as final?  Also, the Feitian FTCOS/PK-01C works
with RC2 however, it appears that only a single Pin for everything
(user, Security Officer, PUK) is supported.  Is this true? 

 

Best Regards,

 

Brian Thomas

ITSEC Specialist

Systems Engineer

Astronautics Corporation of America

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Re: [opensc-devel] Windows 7 support for PKCS#11 => mini-driver

2010-12-20 Thread Douglas E. Engert


On 12/20/2010 12:39 AM, Nikolay Elenkov wrote:
> On 2010/12/20 15:23, Andreas Jellinghaus wrote:
>
>> 2.) a PKCS-CSP such as the ID-Ally CSP, CSP#11 or PKCSCP - all these
>>  packages implement a CSP, but they don't talk to the smart card
>>  directly. Instead they load a pkcs#11 plugin to do that, such as
>>  opensc-pkcs11.so

There is also coolkey, that can call PKCS#11. Works better with a few mods...

See: 
http://www.opensc-project.org/pipermail/opensc-devel/2009-February/011905.html
>
> Forgot all about those. Are any of those still supported? Last I checked was
> maybe a couple of years ago and they were pretty much dead.
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Re: [opensc-devel] Windows 7 support for PKCS#11 => mini-driver

2010-12-20 Thread Martin Paljak
2010/12/20 Jean-Michel Pouré - GOOZE :
> Le lundi 20 décembre 2010 à 09:08 +0200, Martin Paljak a écrit :
>> AFAIK nothing has changed. I have not seen a signed and properly
>> functioning PKCS#11-CSP bridge, available with source code. Maybe
>> there are proprietary implementations, but I'm not aware of any.
>
> GOOZE is ready to give a bounty for working on a full implementation of
> a PKCS#11-CSP bridge.

Why not announce the bounty here on the list, together with success
criteria and offered amount?

From software design POV, I would not suggest to create such CSP but
improve the minidriver instead. To not repeat what others have already
said very well, I'd refer you to the first reply in the thread I
linked in my previous e-mail.

Nevertheless, it would be nice if somebody reanimated one of the
PKCS#11 related CSP-s.

Cheers,

Martin.
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Re: [opensc-devel] Windows 7 support for PKCS#11 => mini-driver

2010-12-20 Thread Jean-Michel Pouré - GOOZE
Le lundi 20 décembre 2010 à 09:08 +0200, Martin Paljak a écrit :
> AFAIK nothing has changed. I have not seen a signed and properly
> functioning PKCS#11-CSP bridge, available with source code. Maybe
> there are proprietary implementations, but I'm not aware of any.

GOOZE is ready to give a bounty for working on a full implementation of
a PKCS#11-CSP bridge. 

Contact me on GOOZE for more information: https://www.gooze.eu/contact

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