[orkut-developer] Re: Stats not updated
Hello, We don't specify exactly what an active user is because we want to reserve the right to change that definition as we detect that better algorithms or definitions are better for the user. Same thing with the exact ranking algorithm: we don't disclose exactly what it is because we can't make promises about how it works or how it will work in the future. I wish we could be more precise in how we specify it, but we prefer to say it's undefined instead of publishing a spec that would change frequently. Thanks! - Bruno Oliveira (Google) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups orkut Developer Forum group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/opensocial-orkut/-/sHJ1yaQHuZsJ. To post to this group, send email to opensocial-orkut@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to opensocial-orkut+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/opensocial-orkut?hl=en.
[orkut-developer] Re: Stats not updated
Hello, That article is out of date. We currently use a different algorithm for the ranking which prioritizes active users, although we don't specify its exact nature. We believe that's the best for the user. Unless it isn't, which is why we keep looking for ways to improve it :-) - Bruno Oliveira (Google) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups orkut Developer Forum group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/opensocial-orkut/-/69wj9B2ttD0J. To post to this group, send email to opensocial-orkut@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to opensocial-orkut+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/opensocial-orkut?hl=en.
[orkut-developer] Re: Stats not updated
The stats are still messed up, the ranking is the same I posted before, for at least three accounts I have. If it's OK for you, maybe it's not propagating to all servers, how will I know... :) On 24 jan, 19:26, anatoly anato...@gmail.com wrote: I understand but you are once again not transparent about what active users is. Many things in that article make sense in my opinion (though it's not perfect). Do you count just visits or canvas impressions? If yes than games which use ajax and people spend much time on the canvas without reloading have the same weight as apps where users spend 5 sec to visit. Do you count stream impressions/feedback? Do you count profile installations? Apparently not. There are many questions. On Tuesday, January 24, 2012 4:02:21 PM UTC+2, Bruno Oliveira (Google) wrote: Hello, That article is out of date. We currently use a different algorithm for the ranking which prioritizes active users, although we don't specify its exact nature. We believe that's the best for the user. Unless it isn't, which is why we keep looking for ways to improve it :-) - Bruno Oliveira (Google) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups orkut Developer Forum group. To post to this group, send email to opensocial-orkut@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to opensocial-orkut+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/opensocial-orkut?hl=en.
[orkut-developer] Re: Stats not updated
+1 the directory is messed up -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups orkut Developer Forum group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/opensocial-orkut/-/oa9wal5DWvEJ. To post to this group, send email to opensocial-orkut@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to opensocial-orkut+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/opensocial-orkut?hl=en.
[orkut-developer] Re: Stats not updated
Hi, I just tested the directory and it looks ok: 1. Mini Fazenda 2. Megacity 3. CaféMania 4. Caixa da Verdade 5. Colheita Feliz 6. World Mysteries 7. Cidade Maravilhosa 8. Vila Mágica 9. BuddyPoke 10. Candy Dash 11. Guitar Flash 12. Vou, Não Vou! 13. Colheita Feliz 3 14. Minha Música 15. Pet Mania 16. Buraco Canastra (I tested in Brazilian Portuguese, but the directory varies according to the language you configured Orkut to) - Bruno Oliveira (Google) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups orkut Developer Forum group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/opensocial-orkut/-/XvhITIRwY_EJ. To post to this group, send email to opensocial-orkut@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to opensocial-orkut+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/opensocial-orkut?hl=en.
[orkut-developer] Re: Stats not updated
Mine is in pt-br too, and the ranking is: CaféMania Crash Bandicoot Cidade de sonho Princesa de Sonho! HOKUTO NO KEN 2 J... Sou Fluminense! DOOM 2008 JOGOS O... Grande Prêmio da ... Dengue Ville Sou Coritiba! Siga: Chris Brown Show do Milhão Novo Bola Soccer! Siga: RBD Cartooes.com corrida de carros Town Ville Sim ou Não MARIO STARCATCHE... MegaSena However, in prod.sandbox and sandbox the ranking is like you listed. On 23 jan, 17:37, Bruno Oliveira (Google) brunooliveira9876543...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I just tested the directory and it looks ok: 1. Mini Fazenda 2. Megacity 3. CaféMania 4. Caixa da Verdade 5. Colheita Feliz 6. World Mysteries 7. Cidade Maravilhosa 8. Vila Mágica 9. BuddyPoke 10. Candy Dash 11. Guitar Flash 12. Vou, Não Vou! 13. Colheita Feliz 3 14. Minha Música 15. Pet Mania 16. Buraco Canastra (I tested in Brazilian Portuguese, but the directory varies according to the language you configured Orkut to) - Bruno Oliveira (Google) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups orkut Developer Forum group. To post to this group, send email to opensocial-orkut@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to opensocial-orkut+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/opensocial-orkut?hl=en.
[orkut-developer] Re: Stats not updated
Hi Bruno I see the same order. But what criteria it is based on now - just weekly visits? So all visits equal e.g. 1 sec visit = half hour visit? See this article Demystifying the app ranking criteria in orkut? http://googlecode.blogspot.com/2010/08/demystifying-app-ranking-criteria-in.html By Prashant Tiwari and Tiago Silveira, orkut Team it seems very different now than what is described. Can you officially clarify the new criteria? thanks On Monday, January 23, 2012 9:37:17 PM UTC+2, Bruno Oliveira (Google) wrote: Hi, I just tested the directory and it looks ok: 1. Mini Fazenda 2. Megacity 3. CaféMania 4. Caixa da Verdade 5. Colheita Feliz 6. World Mysteries 7. Cidade Maravilhosa 8. Vila Mágica 9. BuddyPoke 10. Candy Dash 11. Guitar Flash 12. Vou, Não Vou! 13. Colheita Feliz 3 14. Minha Música 15. Pet Mania 16. Buraco Canastra (I tested in Brazilian Portuguese, but the directory varies according to the language you configured Orkut to) - Bruno Oliveira (Google) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups orkut Developer Forum group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/opensocial-orkut/-/stUdb5HrkHwJ. To post to this group, send email to opensocial-orkut@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to opensocial-orkut+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/opensocial-orkut?hl=en.
[orkut-developer] Re: Stats not updated
The directory ranking is pretty messed the last days, e.g. just one Vostu game is listed in the top. On 21 jan, 10:08, anatoly anato...@gmail.com wrote: I'm sorry but what you just did is ranking based on weekly users. It's totally wrong. Weekly users maybe one of the factors. Once you had a sophisticated formula with weights of page impressions. What happened to that formula? You should also count the time spent on the app per user per visit - this is the measurement of the quality of the app. Ranking based simply on weekly users is wrong and people will outspam and game the system. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups orkut Developer Forum group. To post to this group, send email to opensocial-orkut@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to opensocial-orkut+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/opensocial-orkut?hl=en.
[orkut-developer] Re: Stats not updated
I'm sorry but what you just did is ranking based on weekly users. It's totally wrong. Weekly users maybe one of the factors. Once you had a sophisticated formula with weights of page impressions. What happened to that formula? You should also count the time spent on the app per user per visit - this is the measurement of the quality of the app. Ranking based simply on weekly users is wrong and people will outspam and game the system. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups orkut Developer Forum group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/opensocial-orkut/-/wMP2dAyM6EcJ. To post to this group, send email to opensocial-orkut@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to opensocial-orkut+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/opensocial-orkut?hl=en.
[orkut-developer] Re: Stats not updated
Yeah, it looks better now. :-) - Bruno Oliveira (Google) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups orkut Developer Forum group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/opensocial-orkut/-/9BkDjSB7txgJ. To post to this group, send email to opensocial-orkut@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to opensocial-orkut+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/opensocial-orkut?hl=en.
[orkut-developer] Re: Stats not updated
Finally the ranking is based on weekly users (or something similar). :D On 6 jan, 11:40, Bruno Oliveira (Google) brunooliveira9876543...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, Ideally the stats would update every day but some times it takes a little longer depending on server load and a few other factors. They should not, however, stop updating completely for more than a few weeks... Thanks! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups orkut Developer Forum group. To post to this group, send email to opensocial-orkut@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to opensocial-orkut+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/opensocial-orkut?hl=en.
