[osol-discuss] Re: Solaris version of Flash Player 9

2007-03-18 Thread W. Wayne Liauh
> There is a beta of Flash Player 9 for Solaris at
> Adobe Labs 
> 
> http://labs.adobe.com/technologies/flashplayer9/

I have been able to install flashplayer9 into Builds 55b/56 (I am waiting for 
Build 62)) and 10u3.  This is a very painless process; all you need to do is 
move the existing libflashplayer.so to a backup file (say libflashplayer.so.7) 
then copy the extracted libflashplayer.so into the same directory.  Re-start 
firefox.  Done.

With regard to the suggestion to "sue Adobe" mentioned in the subsequent post, 
we need to realize that as late as one year ago, or even only six months ago, 
no person of reasonable mind would consider desktop Solaris is anything other 
than an oxymoron.  Now, of course, things have changed to everyone's wildest 
surprise.  But if no one files bug reports, or if the number of downloads is 
disappointing, we will be assured that Flashplayer 9 will stay at the beta 
level.  & there goes the conspiracy theory.
 
 
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Re: [osol-discuss] Re: opensolaris 10 express community support Sata drive?

2007-03-18 Thread ying tian - Sun Microsystems - Beijing China

UNIX admin wrote:


As subject content, I would like to know opensolaris
10 express community support Sata drive?
I just want to make sure whether it support SATA or
not?
BEcause my PC only have 2 SATA drives.
Tnx in advanced.





Please check the model of your sata controller. So far Solaris 10 update 
3 support
ICH5/6 and SI3112/3114/3512 and so on with legacy mode, and SI3124 and 
Marvell5081/5080...

with native mode.


There is no "opensolaris 10 express community" distro.

Solaris 10 supports SATA in PATA emulation mode (and it's pretty fast, too).


OpenSolaris and "Nevada" derived from it (future Solaris 11) supported SATA in 
PATA mode up until Nevada build 56 (snv_56 / b56).

From snv_56 and on, SATA should be natively supported with the AHCI framework, 
according to this document:





This is not correct.

Solaris Nevada introduces the sata framework in build 32, and so far 
there are already
several sata framework-compliant hba drivers including marvell88sx, 
si3124 and ahci.

These drivers support controllers' SATA native mode.

Thanks,
- ying -



http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/on/flag-days/pages/2006122401/

You can check which changes have been introduced into Nevada builds by going looking at 
"flag day" notices here:

http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/on/flag-days/


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Re: [osol-discuss] Re: How to build a NAS box

2007-03-18 Thread Dick Davies

If you want a NAS, why do you care what GNOME does?
Webfrontend maybe, but not a GUI.

And read the manpages, they're accurate and updated often.

On 18/03/07, MC <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


The problems with Solaris for me so far are driver support and ease of 
administration.

Driver support is very limited.  And when certain hardware IS support, it isn't 
always clear how to install/use it.  Console commands buried in man pages 
aren't going to cut it anymore -- I hope Unix will join us in the 21st century 
by the time we hit 2010 :)




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[osol-discuss] Re: Re: opensolaris 10 express community support Sata drive?

2007-03-18 Thread UNIX admin
> This is not correct.
> 
> Solaris Nevada introduces the sata framework in build
> 32, and so far 
> there are already
> several sata framework-compliant hba drivers
> including marvell88sx, 
> si3124 and ahci.
> These drivers support controllers' SATA native mode.

I used "PSARC 2006/384 SATA AHCI HBA Driver" <---> "SATA framework" 
interchangeably.  If they are not the same thing, then I am indeed mistaken.
 
 
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[osol-discuss] Re: Re: opensolaris 10 express community support Sata

2007-03-18 Thread Andrew Pattison
You are indeed mistaken.

Andrew.
 
 
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[osol-discuss] Departing Comments

2007-03-18 Thread Carlos Silva
After a week and a half of trying every available form of openSolaris the 
available Solaris 10 I have to give up.
I have a AsusTek AMD K7 with nForce on board chipset w/512 ram and over 600 Gb 
of hard disk over 3 drives. I even installed a realtek nic to try and get 
internet connection.
I actually was able to get into a UI twice, but they each had there own 
problems and I never could get a internet connection.

Probably if I were an IT or Sys Admin or a coder it may have been a different 
story.
Altough I am not any of these I have been using Linux for over ten years the 
last six with it as my primary OS, and Solaris right now reminds me of Linux 
ten years ago except for an exceptionally beautiful UI. 
I think it would be better served with a KDE UI, but that's extremely minor in 
comparison with the mission critical items such as of just getting an install 
to work and auto driver ID and install, which should just happen out of the box 
if it's to be a serious contender for the desktop market.
For a serious desktop the user needs to be considered. 
The users of desktops, or at least about 90% are not sys ops, coders, or even 
versed in the jargon.  There should be four questions asked during install for 
average desktop user to install:
User name
password
time zone
drive to install to
and a half hour later it boots and your of and running, period. 
That's what has made the Ubuntus so popular, which are the top *nix distros 
downloaded, installed and used as primary OS. That's not my primary Linux OS, 
but that's how 98% of the all the Linux distros work.

I believe that's where Solaris is trying to head. It is advertised as "the most 
advanced OS"  and that could very well be but it's not the most advanced 
DESKTOP OS. If it were it should do all those things already mentioned and for 
the IT, Sys admin and the coders still have all the capabilities they are 
capable of using also.
So keep up the hard work and maybe some day soon I may actually get to really 
try out Solaris as a desktop OS.
 
 
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Re: [osol-discuss] Departing Comments

2007-03-18 Thread Ian Collins
Carlos Silva wrote:

>After a week and a half of trying every available form of openSolaris the 
>available Solaris 10 I have to give up.
>I have a AsusTek AMD K7 with nForce on board chipset w/512 ram and over 600 Gb 
>of hard disk over 3 drives. I even installed a realtek nic to try and get 
>internet connection.
>  
>
Did you ever try the device detection tool?

If you had tried a more modern board, your luck would have been better.

Ian

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[osol-discuss] Re: Departing Comments

2007-03-18 Thread Carlos Silva
Ian,

Thanks, I tried running device detection tool, but it only runs on certain 
versions of Linux or on Windows, so it would not run on my system.

If I need a newer system for Solaris than that is sad news indeed. It is not 
much different then Vista in that regard. 

So I will have to wait for the time I  get some new hardware some time in the 
distant future to use Solaris as a desktop, hopefully the hardware I get won't 
also be too old then also. I tend to buy sale items, so typically they aren't 
the latest technology, but better than what I had previously.

Food for thought for the developers here:
>From what I know one the the biggest conversions into Linux from Windows both 
>on the user and coporate sides is due to the need for upgrading hardware to 
>run the new Vista. 

Those of us with some computer knowledge like myself and many others, have 
plenty of computer now. And that is certainly not going to make many converts 
from those who don't want to $upgrade$ their systems knowing they can get over 
100 different flavors of other *nixs distros that will work wonderfully on 
there current systems. Especially since it will run even better and faster than 
Windows ever did on it.

I think that working better with newer hardware maybe a deterrent rather than a 
plus factor and could push more away from Solaris than it will attract.
 
 
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Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Departing Comments

2007-03-18 Thread Ian Collins
Carlos Silva wrote:

>Ian,
>
>Thanks, I tried running device detection tool, but it only runs on certain 
>versions of Linux or on Windows, so it would not run on my system.
>
>If I need a newer system for Solaris than that is sad news indeed. It is not 
>much different then Vista in that regard. 
>
>  
>
There is plenty of older hardware that is supported (see the HCL), but
more effort has gone into recent (the past two or three years) systems. 
Unlike vista, the problem isn't one of performance, simply support.  I
still run Solaris on an old Pentium Pro system...

Where would you rather have people (remember, this is OpenSolaris) put
their driver and support effort, current hardware or older hardware?

Ian.

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Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Departing Comments

2007-03-18 Thread Moazam Raja

Current hardware gets my vote.

Serious users/developers don't need to run the OS on ancient  
hardware, and current/new hardware is very inexpensive anyways.


-Moazam

On Mar 18, 2007, at 9:09 PM, Ian Collins wrote:



Where would you rather have people (remember, this is OpenSolaris) put
their driver and support effort, current hardware or older hardware?

Ian.


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[osol-discuss] where can I download the latest LiveCD image of Solaris Express

2007-03-18 Thread Jian-Hua Lin
Hi Guys,

Where can I download the LiveCD image of Solaris Express? 
eg, the liveCD image of SDX 1

Thanks,
Dave.
 
 
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Re: [osol-discuss] where can I download the latest LiveCD image of Solaris Express

2007-03-18 Thread James C. McPherson

Jian-Hua Lin wrote:
Where can I download the LiveCD image of Solaris Express? 
eg, the liveCD image of SDX 1


You can't, because it doesn't exist.

Belenix and iirc Nexenta provide LiveCD functionality.

One of the things that the Caiman project is working
on is LiveCD support.



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[osol-discuss] Re: Departing Comments

2007-03-18 Thread Carlos Silva
Wow, that's a loaded question.

One certainly can't sit and become stagnant so development has to go into new 
hardware, but at the same time what are your majority of users using, not the 
new hardware, it will be the older hardware. 
Corporate is out to save a buck so they can keep more bucks, they will push the 
old stuff until the SYS Admin turns in his resignation (well almost, but you 
get my point). Of course the software that can save them bucks by keeping their 
older hardware (big investments) going longest is going to be the clear winner, 
gee you can even sell support, it's cheaper than the hardware. Good sell, a 
couple of the *nix distros are advertising and banking on that very same issue. 
So I think some major development needs to go to the older stuff. 

How about the academic world, most students and many of the labs they are in 
(universities and colledges) are not running the latest hardware, although some 
do, it's not the normative. So what will they be learning and getting 
acquainted with for software. Get into your secondary education level your 
talking old hardware. 
Remember when Apple practically gave away their systems to get them into 
academia. Why, the up and coming generation, brainwashed into Apple (it 
worked). And then you have your poor and under developed countries, not to 
mention counties and states, etc...
You know that old hardware has a REALLY large user base. Should it go ignored?

For example why is Windows XP so popular, we know it's not the best, but it has 
worked for the most part out of the box and two I can run it on practically any 
system, I have an install of it on a Toshiba that is running a P3 with 64 Mb of 
ram and a 3 gig drive, old hardware. 
And again the exodus from Windows now is being driven by hardware.

In the long run it doesn't matter where you or I think the effort needs to go 
because some one else will make that call. But if history is to be considered 
the *nix's distros have done extremely very well supporting the old and slowly 
bringing in the new.
 
 
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Re: [osol-discuss] where can I download the latest LiveCD image of Solaris Express

2007-03-18 Thread Moinak Ghosh

James C. McPherson wrote:

Jian-Hua Lin wrote:
Where can I download the LiveCD image of Solaris Express? eg, the 
liveCD image of SDX 1


You can't, because it doesn't exist.

Belenix and iirc Nexenta provide LiveCD functionality.

One of the things that the Caiman project is working
on is LiveCD support.


  You can build a LiveDVD image using the LiveKit from the OpenSolaris
  LiveMedia project (http://www.opensolaris.org/os/project/livemedia/)
  and a Solaris Express ISO image for build 56.

Regards,
Moinak.





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[osol-discuss] Fire!! core dumped!

2007-03-18 Thread eric wang
Hi, All,

A coredumped problem occured some time in a multi-thread as the following:
-  lwp# 1 / thread# 1  
 fd90b258 _lock_try_adaptive (0, fd91c000, 10018, 8, 0, 0)
 fe4912bc bool cmgCall::sendEventIn(unsigned long,unsigned char*,unsigned 
short) (1f3f010, 2, 213c9bb, 8, 10018, 6e1b50) + 3c
 fe50d060 bool cmgSs7Adapter::inputNetMsg(unsigned char*) (fe50db20, 213c9a0, 
fe5f677c, 8, 14d53f0, fe5b85c4) + 160
 fe4a6c40 void cmgCallMgr::forwardNetEvent(XEEvent*) (28b010, 162c970, 100a, 
100b, fe5526eb, 0) + 300
 fe1f4a7c int engIOS_EvtHdlr::handleEvent(XEEvent*) (2571f0, 162c970, 0, bd07c, 
5, 2) + 55c
 fe96bac4 int XEEvtDispatcher::run() (1b9010, dc8650, 1b9124, 1b9078, 1, 2b32) 
+ 224
 fe991ce8 int XEProcShell::run() (1b69a0, 800, 9a8, fea06630, 1bb610, 1) + 2a8
 00026238 main (3, ffbefb54, ffbefb64, 1617d0, 0, 0) + 1d8
 00025308 _start   (0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0) + 108
-  lwp# 2 / thread# 2  
 fcf9ed7c _signotifywait (fd91c000, 0, fec47a8c, 1000, fec34124, fec47fe8) + 8
 fd901c2c thr_yield (0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0) + 8c
-  lwp# 3 / thread# 3  
 fcf9f42c _lwp_sema_wait (fcb0de60, fd91c000, 0, fcb0dd98, ffe0, 0) + c
 fd8f93a4 _swtch   (fcb0dd98, fcb0dd98, fd91c000, 5, 1000, 1) + 424
 fd8fd9b8 _reap_wait (fd920980, fd91c000, 0, 18, 0, 18) + 38
 fd8fd710 _reaper  (fd91ce00, fd922708, fd920980, fd91cdd8, 1, fe40) + 38
 fd90b01c _thread_start (0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0) + 40
-  lwp# 26  
 fd909200 private___lwp_cond_wait (fe153d98, fd91cd6c, fd91c000, 3, fd91c000, 
1) + 8
 fd8fa358 _lwp_start (fe153d98, 0, 4000, ffbeea04, 0, 0) + 18
 fd901c2c thr_yield (0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0) + 8c
-  lwp# 27 / thread# 25  
 fcf9f42c _lwp_sema_wait (f5109e60, fd91c000, 0, f5109d98, fe552627, 0) + c
 fd8f90d8 _swtch   (f5109d98, 0, fd91c000, 5, 1000, 0) + 158
 fd8f81ac cond_wait (f5109d98, 0, 0, fd91c000, 0, 0) + 11c
 fd8f8070 pthread_cond_wait (1ec658, 1ec638, f5109ab0, 0, 0, 0) + 8
 fe8559b8 int ACE_Condition_Thread_Mutex::wait(const ACE_Time_Value*) (1ec658, 
0, 0, febe1d60, 0, 0) + 4c
 feb9d0b0 int 
ACE_Message_Queue::wait_not_empty_cond(ACE_Guard&,ACE_Time_Value*)
 (0, f5109b90, 0, 0, 19fdc, 0) + 30
 feb9ba0c int 
ACE_Message_Queue::dequeue_head(ACE_Message_Block*&,ACE_Time_Value*)
 (1ec610, f5109bfc, 0, 1, 2, 2) + ac
 fe478b2c int XEQueue::dequeue_head(cmgCall*&) (1ec610, f5109ccc, 518, 
2, fe49b500, fe5b85c4) + c
 fe4a3ff8 void*cmgCallMgr::enterCPTLoop(void*) (fe49cda0, fe5c6540, 1, c44010, 
fe552627, ) + d8
 fe85d988 void*ACE_Thread_Adapter::invoke() (c19430, fd91d658, fe85d918, 1, 
fd91c000, 0) + 70
 fd90b01c _thread_start (c19430, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0) + 40
-  lwp# 24  
 fcf9c920 _door_return (10, fd91d658, fd91d670, 3, fd91c000, 1) + 10
 fd8fa358 _lwp_start (fddf5d98, 0, 6000, fdff5b9c, 0, 0) + 18
 fd901c2c thr_yield (0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0) + 8c
-  lwp# 28  
 fd909200 private___lwp_cond_wait (fdb23d98, fd91cd6c, fd91c000, 3, fd91c000, 
1) + 8
 fd8fa358 _lwp_start (fdb23d98, 0, 4000, ffbeea04, 0, 10003) + 18
 fd901c2c thr_yield (0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0) + 8c
-  lwp# 29 / thread# 26  
 fcf9f42c _lwp_sema_wait (fc603e60, fd91c000, 0, fc603d98, fe552627, 0) + c
 fd8f90d8 _swtch   (fc603d98, 0, fd91c000, 5, 1000, 0) + 158
 fd8f81ac cond_wait (fc603d98, 0, 0, fd91c000, 0, 0) + 11c
 fd8f8070 pthread_cond_wait (1ec9d8, 1ec9b8, fc603ab0, 26a14, 192400, 0) + 8
 fe8559b8 int ACE_Condition_Thread_Mutex::wait(const ACE_Time_Value*) (1ec9d8, 
0, 0, febe1d60, 19fdc, 0) + 4c
 feb9d0b0 int 
ACE_Message_Queue::wait_not_empty_cond(ACE_Guard&,ACE_Time_Value*)
 (0, fc603b90, 0, 0, 19fdc, 0) + 30
 feb9ba0c int 
ACE_Message_Queue::dequeue_head(ACE_Message_Block*&,ACE_Time_Value*)
 (1ec990, fc603bfc, 0, 1, 1, 2) + ac
 fe478b2c int XEQueue::dequeue_head(cmgCall*&) (1ec990, fc603ccc, 518, 
2, fe49b500, fe5b85c4) + c
 fe4a3ff8 void*cmgCallMgr::enterCPTLoop(void*) (1a0df00, fe5c6540, 1, c47010, 
fe552627, ) + d8
 fe85d988 void*ACE_Thread_Adapter::invoke() (c19460, fd91d658, fe85d918, 1, 
fd91c000, 0) + 70
 fd90b01c _thread_start (c19460, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0) + 40

Please help investigate it!

BR,
Eric
 
 
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Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Departing Comments

2007-03-18 Thread Dick Davies

On 19/03/07, Carlos Silva <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Ian,

Thanks, I tried running device detection tool, but it only runs on certain 
versions of Linux or on Windows, so it would not run on my system.


There's a 'livecd' version at :

 http://www.sun.com/bigadmin/hcl/hcts/install_check_sx.html



I think that working better with newer hardware maybe a deterrent rather than a 
plus factor and could push more away from Solaris than it will attract.


That's an odd statement. You'd rather it *didn't* run on new hardware,
or that people should spend time supporting hardware that's about to
be EOLed?
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