[osol-discuss] Re: Re: was something else, now Packaging
As soon as Ubuntu supported click this button to upgrade your entire OS flawlessly from the internet, that feature became a standard for everyone to meet. I take it as a given that Solaris/OpenSolaris will eventually support such a feature. I hope I am not wrong! This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
[osol-discuss] Re: SXCE Build 62 delayed
Hello, Will it be based on GNOME 2.18? Regards, Girts This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
[osol-discuss] Re: MPxIO problem with metadb !!!
metadbs on two local disks is a common used configuration. This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
[osol-discuss] Re: Re: was something else, now Packaging
In practice, the convenience approach can only work so much, until the whole model collapses. It might work very well for a single desktop system, but after a certain people to systems ratio, the whole model can't support the needs of the user or users any more. Ultimately, neither the convenience administration nor a single desktop system paradigm will be able to survive what will eventually come our way. The writing's on the wall. Desktop's days are numbered; it might take years, but it will come. I completely disagree. There is a reason that Windows as a server is where it is today. Ignoring other reasons, it's pretty easy to get setup and running. In fact, in my opinion, that's one of the reasons that RH is as popular as it is . it was easy to get up and running (of course the support makes a big difference). This is especially important when moving someone from system X to system Y. If I have to hack a system to get it running the way my old architecture was, I generally will just forget about it and go back to where I was. It comes down to money; you can probably outsource all your problems if you can afford to pay for it. Certainly the major OS vendors all have programs to help transition their competitors' customers to their products. But I think there's some point of balance on ease-of-use vs having some clueful people of your own, and I certainly don't think that Windows encourages a sensible balance; indeed, I think it just deceives, by making the learning curve shallow at the beginning and steep later on, rather than linear or steep at the start and shallow later on. The cost people think they're saving, they just end up paying later on, whether for support, or consultants, or in down time, lack of security, loss of data, or lack of flexibility. I've never seen a place that has a nontrivial number of both Mac servers and workstations, with presumably _some_ in-house support people; I wonder if they're perhaps a bit more clueful about how things _work_ (rather than how to read a cheat-sheet) than most Windows support people. This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] was something else, now Packaging
Alan DuBoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No system to date is without sacrifice in some way for Solaris. I'd like to hear a lot more of how we can make Solaris be itself. I mean this in regards to pkgsrc wanting things in /usr/pkg, belenix wanting /usr/foss, and even Solaris using /usr/sfw...or duplication of libs running wild amongst the community, and even the gcc vs. SunStudio ABI situation with c++ code. This cross-ABI problem seems to bite us hard. Maybe the idea that our community can work together as a whole is merely a dream. I believe that the C++ ABI problem cannot be soved as this would force at least (all -1) compiler authors to completely change their internal compiler source structures. What we can do for the problem? - Use as many pure C ABIs as possible - Create something like /usr/lib/gcc/ to document the fact that the libraries inside are not compatible with the Sun compiler C++ ABI Jörg -- EMail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (home) Jörg Schilling D-13353 Berlin [EMAIL PROTECTED](uni) [EMAIL PROTECTED] (work) Blog: http://schily.blogspot.com/ URL: http://cdrecord.berlios.de/old/private/ ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/schily ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Re: SXCE Build 62 delayed
No. GNOME 2.18 is targeted to B65 now. Please see: http://www.opensolaris.org/os/project/jds/documents/jds_schedule/ Harry On Tue, 2007-04-17 at 23:52 -0700, Girts Zeltins wrote: Hello, Will it be based on GNOME 2.18? Regards, Girts This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
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[osol-discuss] Re: [osol-code] How to initiate a distro ?
Hello, Thanks, but webstart is actually request user to install separately ... what we require is adding a pre-installed application, which require no user interaction. Furthermore, we need to remove some package from Solaris, which not required anymore. Best regards, Eko Budhi S On Fri, 2007-04-13 at 21:59, Garrett D'Amore wrote: Eko Budhi Suprasetiawan wrote: Hello all, i am new to Open Solaris, but have a demand to have my own OpenSolaris installer, which basically a simple design like this : Add a software (e.g Moodle learning management software) as pre-installed so that, if i distribute my distro, then somebody will have installed OpenSolaris plus that software Is there arcticle to do so ? My background for such initiative is using Knoppix. Is there a such simple ways with OpenSolaris already ? Best regards, If all you are doing is adding software _in addition_ to what OpenSolaris already delivers, then you might want to look at webstart. The installer asks a question about whether you have any additional media to install, and this is where webstart comes in ... it can provide a nice GUI around the underlying pkgadd scripts, and integrate with the installer. -- Garrett ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] How to initiate a distro ?
On 4/14/07, Eko Budhi Suprasetiawan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello all, i am new to Open Solaris, but have a demand to have my own OpenSolaris installer, which basically a simple design like this : Add a software (e.g Moodle learning management software) as pre-installed so that, if i distribute my distro, then somebody will have installed OpenSolaris plus that software Is there arcticle to do so ? My background for such initiative is using Knoppix. Is there a such simple ways with OpenSolaris already ? Hi Eko, If you can hack around with the scripts, you can add this to BeleniX, the opensolaris LiveCD. If your application isnt very big (under 1 mb).. you can easily add that to the miniroot of BeleniX, so the distributed version (On USB or CD) will contian your applications. The upcoming release of BeleniX would make addition of utilities much simpler.. but you'll have to wait for a couple of weeks. Regards Anil ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
[osol-discuss] Thank you Sun Microsystems
I joined this forum several weeks ago. I sent message here regarding to delivery of Solaris 10 OS kit also Start kit . I did not receive it. I sent order in early 2006. Well, today I received Solaris 10 OS kit which contains 3 DVD's. 1 DVD contains Solaris 10 for x86 systems, other DVD is for SPARC remaining DVD is for developement. Thank you Sun for the kit also thanks to Mr.Moinish Ghosh who sent me Sun LIVE OS DVD with developement DVD. Regards, Amey. This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] How to initiate a distro ?
Anil Gulecha [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you can hack around with the scripts, you can add this to BeleniX, the opensolaris LiveCD. If your application isnt very big (under 1 mb).. you can easily add that to the miniroot of BeleniX, so the distributed version (On USB or CD) will contian your applications. The upcoming release of BeleniX would make addition of utilities much simpler.. but you'll have to wait for a couple of weeks. As he has no ftp access, things seem to be hard for him Jörg -- EMail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (home) Jörg Schilling D-13353 Berlin [EMAIL PROTECTED](uni) [EMAIL PROTECTED] (work) Blog: http://schily.blogspot.com/ URL: http://cdrecord.berlios.de/old/private/ ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/schily ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
[osol-discuss] Re: solaris 9 with xp
Very imp question is what is the size of your hdd ? I strongly recomand to make 2 partitions for Windows XP Leave remaining space for Solaris. - Format C:/ drive with [b]NTFS[/b] file system - Format D:/ drive with [b]FAT32[/b] file system I am not Soalris expert, but most linux OS's dont have write access on NTFS file system. So if you want to share something from Windows to Soalris vice versa, it's good to have a [b]FAT32[/b] formatted partition in between. From all linux OS's you have write access on FAT32 file system. I guess same with Solaris as well. :) This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
[osol-discuss] Re: installation solaris 10 in SATA HDD, with new configuration
I am curious to know if you select ZFS file system while installing Solaris 10 on a SATA hdd. This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Re: installation solaris 10 in SATA HDD, with new configuration
Amey Abhyankar wrote: I am curious to know if you select ZFS file system while installing Solaris 10 on a SATA hdd. Not currently possible. The work required to do this has not been completed yet. James C. McPherson -- Solaris kernel software engineer Sun Microsystems ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
[osol-discuss] Contributor Agreemtn
Section 1 of the Contributor Agreement [1] states: 1. Contribution means any source code, object code, patch, tool, sample, graphic, specification, manual, documentation, e-mail, comment, posting, communication or any other material posted or submitted by You to a Project. Am I correct in my interpretation that, had I signed this agreement, that would include this email? Does mail on an OpenSolaris mailing list constitute a submission to a Project? Thanks, Ceri [1] http://opensolaris.org/os/about/sun_contributor_agreement/sun_contributor_agreement.1.3.pdf -- That must be wonderful! I don't understand it at all. -- Moliere pgpOoYhqjqwyK.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Re: GVIM 7.0 with GTK: is a .pkg available? (not blastwave)
On 18/04/07, Manish Chakravarty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi All, I downloaded the tarball and it got built in SXDE with any modifications (using the bundled Sun Studio 11) It has pretty looking GTK fonts and icons. Now my question is: how do i make a .pkg out of it? (it is clear the vim7.0 has no extra dependencies. a base SXDE install is enough) See http://icculus.org/~eviltypeguy/pkg/ -- Less is only more where more is no good. --Frank Lloyd Wright Shawn Walker, Software and Systems Analyst [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://binarycrusader.blogspot.com/ ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Re: was something else, now Packaging
On 18/04/07, a b [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I can be critical of the Sun Update Connection because I was a paying customer for one year. To be fair and objective (and not be a Sun PR channel, as some feel) Sun Update connection never worked right. It shows patches for Solaris 8 on a Solaris 10 system. This problem is not related to the update manager from what I know. Instead, this seems to be a problem with Sun's patch database (which continues to have issues). It shows patches for Solaris 10 for packages which are on the system and which subsequently fail installation. Which is not a problem with the update manager in any case that I know of, and is generally a problem with the update itself. It shows patches for Sun Studio which fail installation. It is slow. Seems no slower than Windows update to me. Subjective. It is written in Java. Sorry, that doesn't matter one bit, and is a subjective unrelated complaint. There are many great programs out there that people use that are written in Java today (such as Azureus, etc.). Being written in Java has absolutely no bearing on the quality of a product. It is ugly. Subjective. Depending on which theme you're using it can look just fine. I don't know why anybody ever cared if an updater was pretty though... And guess what? I did not renew my subscription. Having timely updates and support obviously did not matter to you. -- Less is only more where more is no good. --Frank Lloyd Wright Shawn Walker, Software and Systems Analyst [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://binarycrusader.blogspot.com/ ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Re: was something else, now Packaging
On 18/04/07, MC [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As soon as Ubuntu supported click this button to upgrade your entire OS flawlessly from the internet, that feature became a standard for everyone to meet. I take it as a given that Solaris/OpenSolaris will eventually support such a feature. I hope I am not wrong! Solaris 10 already supports that feature if you use Sun Update Manager, if you're talking about updating. If you're talking about *ugprading* between releases, it is not flawless for Ubuntu. I should know, that's the only Linux distribution I run. -- Less is only more where more is no good. --Frank Lloyd Wright Shawn Walker, Software and Systems Analyst [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://binarycrusader.blogspot.com/ ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Re: was something else, now Packaging
On 4/18/07, Shawn Walker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Solaris 10 already supports that feature if you use Sun Update Manager, if you're talking about updating. I have a question please: Does Solaris 10 support to boot directly from ZFS now? How can I update to this feature with Solaris 10? I've waited for this feature for so long time. Because I've learned that OpenSolaris has this feature now. Debian has different releases/branches for different users: Stable (for server), unstable and testing . its stable version is equivalent to Solaris 10, its testing/unstable version may be equivalent to Open Solaris Developer/Community version (right?), for normal users, one big difference between both is: updating on Debian -like system is very easy, but updating on OpenSolaris is quite difficult. ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Re: was something else, now Packaging
* xiaoming zhu ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: On 4/18/07, Shawn Walker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Solaris 10 already supports that feature if you use Sun Update Manager, if you're talking about updating. I have a question please: Does Solaris 10 support to boot directly from ZFS now? How can I update to this feature with Solaris 10? I've waited for this feature for so long time. Because I've learned that OpenSolaris has this feature now. Solaris 10 does not have this feature yet. It's only just been integrated into OpenSolaris. I don't know what the plans are (if any) for backporting this functionality into a Solaris 10 Update Release. Debian has different releases/branches for different users: Stable (for server), unstable and testing . its stable version is equivalent to Solaris 10, its testing/unstable version may be equivalent to Open Solaris Developer/Community version (right?), for normal users, one big difference between both is: updating on Debian -like system is very easy, but updating on OpenSolaris is quite difficult. Your analogy is pretty much on target. Except the part about upgrading. Using Live Upgrade makes upgrading from one version of OpenSolaris to the next (provided your talking about Sun's distribution of OpenSolaris called Solaris Express) painless. Cheers, -- Glenn Lagasse Solaris Install Sun Microsystems, Inc. x21293, 781-442-1293 ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
[osol-discuss] NFS mounted Home Directories
I have setup a small (5 machines) development/test network using Solaris 10 11/06 (I know this is an OpenSolaris forum). I have an LDAP server configured and running which also serves as the Home Directory Server. The problem I have encountered is when users access there machines they can not read down and traverse their home directories. For example, a user logs in and has access to 2 labeled zones FOO and FOBAR. (FOBAR dominates FOO) So, the user is currently in the FOBAR labeled zone but CAN NOT access there home directory using the /zone/FOO/export/home path. You can access the directory but nothing is there. I have set-up the home directory per the install instruction with 1 exception. The installation instructions state, For every labeled zone, create a new dfstab file. Each zone shares the home directories at the label of the zone. a. Go to the zone’s /etc/dfs directory. # cd /zone/zone-name/root/etc/dfs I created the files as stated above but the files cannot be share from non-global zones (according to the error message I recieve) Also, I tried just rebooting the box and the nfs/server service was disabled and would not start until I removed the entries in each zone. Therefore, I added the entries the dfstab in the global zone. Now this is all on the LDAP server, is there anything I need to do to the clients? Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Elton This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
[osol-discuss] Re: Re: was something else, now Packaging
This problem is not related to the update manager from what I know. Instead, this seems to be a problem with Sun's patch database (which continues to have issues). That might be so, but the net end result is still the same: it does not work correctly and especially not to my satisfaction. And I, as a paying customer, vote primarily with my wallet. Which is not a problem with the update manager in any case that I know of, and is generally a problem with the update itself. These were patches which I could apply manually without a problem. Which ones I don't remember any more, nor should I have to, to be honest. Seems no slower than Windows update to me. Subjective. Windows is a teenager's play thing, and is not to be compared with a professional, enterprise-grade product like Solaris, especially not on this subject. Sorry, that doesn't matter one bit, and is a subjective unrelated complaint. There are many great programs out there that people use that are written in Java today (such as Azureus, etc.). Being written in Java has absolutely no bearing on the quality of a product. It matters to me. I hate and despise Java and its slowness and complexity. I don't want Java tools or Java-anything. If I am paying for it, I want some say in how the tool should function and how it should be made. Having timely updates and support obviously did not matter to you. No it didn't. I have other means of delivering stability, namely, I do my own engineering and testing. This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Re: was something else, now Packaging
Shawn Walker wrote: Sun Connection is very easy to use to manage updates and is all you're likely to need in a *production* environment. So I don't understand your compliant. Given that you have never indicated actual usage of it, I think it is unfair for you to be critical of it. Upgrades are easy right now, especially using liveupgrade or flash archives. Heck, even running the upgrade option from the installer is pretty easy. I'm fairly certain you're still talking about updates in a *non*-production environment. Every time that I've tried to use Sun Connection, it's either not worked, been horribly broken or in fact completely destroyed the system that I was doing it on. I'm sure that there was something I did that was wrong, but Sun Connection sure let me do it all the same .. Now, this was 6 months ago, and something might be fixed now, but I've not heard anything especially supportive. ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Re: was something else, now Packaging
First of all, thank you answer my questions. On 4/18/07, a b [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I doubt it. BFU is meant for an ad-hoc update on a single system for a Solaris developer. Not end user, not sysadmin, but a developer. Which implies that said developer has an indepth understanding of Solaris, and also knows how BFU functions and what the caveats are. Actually, I'm not a Solaris developer, I want to use it just because it's a cool system with many cool features, and of course, a open sourced system, my reason is same as many other Linux users. I used BFU just because I HAD TO: there was no other way to updating my system quickly. Solaris Express is not meant to be used as a day-to-day desktop system because it is in development and it is changing. Some of those changes might introduce and have introduced problems as the future Solaris 11 (that's currently Solaris Express) is being fleshed out and shaped into the next Solaris. Understand. But sometimes, users like me are so eager for the new features, they have already been ready for the potential risks that come with the updating. If you want a stable, productivity-oriented desktop system for day to day use, and you want that desktop to be Solaris based, then Solaris Express is not for you; rather, use the latest Solaris 10. For most personal users , their OS requirements are: 1. Usability 2. Stability/Security 3. New features When there is 80% of the 1st 2nd, they would want more features. Solaris 10 may has 99% of 1 2 but litter with 3; and Solaris Express/Community may has 80% of 1 2, but with more new features than Solaris 10. I'd rather choose Solaris Express than Solaris 10. Even some enterprise users have the same requirements also: Some users have used Solaris Express for their production environment, if usability, stability and security are most important, then why don't they choose the more stable/secure Solaris 10? Yes, they like new features too. If you want to develop on Solaris for Solaris (and other UNIX and UNIX-like systems), or just keep up and play with the latest, cutting edge technology in Solaris, then Solaris Express is for you. Otherwise you have to wait about six months till the backports make it into the next Solaris 10 update. Yes, I'd like to play the Solaris Express, but I cannot spend much effort/time to debug the kernel, I just want to have a simple tool/way to update/recover the system. Finally, if you just want a clicky-bunty don't want to mess with the computer thing, then you might as well stick with your Linux, or even better, go back to Windows or even OS X. The latter two are complete braindead I just want to click around environments. I vowed: I love solaris. Unlike OpenSolaris/Solaris, with Ubuntu, I never worry/care about the installed packages/kernels: System automatically keeps them up to date. Neither do we with Solaris 10. Like I wrote above, Solaris Express is a development release and has different objectives. I'm doubting: what kind of users are using the unstable/testing Ubuntu now? are they all Linux developers? ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Re: was something else, now Packaging
Shawn Walker wrote: On 17/04/07, Chung Hang Christopher Chan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thank you. the concept of apt/yum repositories seems to be very alien here. No, it is not. You just have a hard time believing that we don't embrace it as the one true way of doing things. I think the point most people have been trying to raise is that flash archives, etc. are a far better way to mass manage and deploy systems than apt-get or yum repositories. It is especially not a foreign concept for me, considering I managed and deployed servers using apt4rpm for a few years. I don't think that anyone is advocating the use of debs or rpms . personally rpms make me break out in hives. Now, correct me if I'm wrong, but a flash archive is simply the clone of a system that you can then easily get up and running. The whole JumpStart framework is pretty cool, and in my opinion a great feature but it's completely missing the whole package management boat in my opinion. How do I use a flash archive to (for lack of a better example) emulate the functionality of apt-get'ing the latest production version of my binaries to a set of servers? ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Re: was something else, now Packaging
Shawn Walker wrote: On 17/04/07, Chung Hang Christopher Chan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That is not my problem. I would not bother about this if I was more than happy to drop in a DVD or a bunch of CDs to 'upgrade' each box Except you don't even have to do that. All you need is an ISO image, no dropping DVDs CDs or any other media... I'm sorry, but how is it okay to bring a production server down completely and spend the 30 minutes it's gonna take to get a flash archive on a server, and then the other hour or more it'll take you to regression test EVERYTHING, since who knows what really happened ... to update a single package? If you've got thousands of servers to manage and upgrade, you'll have to simply hire update minions, I know that I sure don't have time for that. ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Re: was something else, now Packaging
lloy0076 wrote: This discussion seems to be spinning around in circles. There is a lot of benefit to an apt like packaging system but clearly a good number of organisations and individuals have gotten by with Solaris without such a packaging system. That is neither wrong, nor right. It just IS. Solaris didn't arise like GNU/Linux so its packaging systems and upgrade systems reflect a different mindset than those of GNU/Linux. That is neither wrong, nor right. It just IS. There's obviously a place for all the current ways a Solaris system can be upgraded and adding a new way to upgrade doesn't mean some, any or all of those older ways need to be altered or discarded. I would tender that upgrading a system that used to come from only one single source who had a lot of control over the hardware the system was installed on would make for a different upgrading system than one that is designed to work on disparate hardware, where there are lots of sources and not all of them in agreeance with each other. So, rather than having a they're wrong, we're right and we'll come up with some hair brained way to trip the opponents up, why don't we simply evaluate what our current knowledge is, look at what is out there and see how things can be improved? Flash versus Live Upgrade versus apt versus yum versus a Windows Like Upgrade discussions are pointless in and of themselves. I'd prefer to see more We like apt because... or We think Live Upgrade is good/bad because... and so forth. DSL Thank you! I don't care how it's implemented, I'd simply like to see some functionality added. The current system is working great for some people, and that's nice it is just my opinion that with some added functionality, we could really shine. ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] NFS mounted Home Directories
Elton wrote: I have setup a small (5 machines) development/test network using Solaris 10 11/06 (I know this is an OpenSolaris forum). I have an LDAP server configured and running which also serves as the Home Directory Server. The problem I have encountered is when users access there machines they can not read down and traverse their home directories. For example, a user logs in and has access to 2 labeled zones FOO and FOBAR. (FOBAR dominates FOO) So, the user is currently in the FOBAR labeled zone but CAN NOT access there home directory using the /zone/FOO/export/home path. You can access the directory but nothing is there. I have set-up the home directory per the install instruction with 1 exception. The installation instructions state, For every labeled zone, create a new dfstab file. Each zone shares the home directories at the label of the zone. a. Go to the zone’s /etc/dfs directory. # cd /zone/zone-name/root/etc/dfs I created the files as stated above but the files cannot be share from non-global zones (according to the error message I recieve) Also, I tried just rebooting the box and the nfs/server service was disabled and would not start until I removed the entries in each zone. Therefore, I added the entries the dfstab in the global zone. Now this is all on the LDAP server, is there anything I need to do to the clients? Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Elton This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org Elton, Are you trying to have each zone export their own shares? If so, that is not supported. Look at http://www.opensolaris.org/os/project/nfs-zones/ Thanks, Tom ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
[osol-discuss] Re: NFS mounted Home Directories
Also, since I am running LDAP the setup instructions for LDAP include loading all the auto_mount files into the directory server. But, in the Home Dir setup Instructions the user is instructed to set automount: to files in the nsswitch.conf file? Not sure why, what is the purpose of loading the automount files if you are not going to use them? This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] NFS mounted Home Directories
Tom Haynes wrote: Elton wrote: I have setup a small (5 machines) development/test network using Solaris 10 11/06 (I know this is an OpenSolaris forum). I have an LDAP server configured and running which also serves as the Home Directory Server. The problem I have encountered is when users access there machines they can not read down and traverse their home directories. For example, a user logs in and has access to 2 labeled zones FOO and FOBAR. (FOBAR dominates FOO) So, the user is currently in the FOBAR labeled zone but CAN NOT access there home directory using the /zone/FOO/export/home path. You can access the directory but nothing is there. I have set-up the home directory per the install instruction with 1 exception. The installation instructions state, For every labeled zone, create a new dfstab file. Each zone shares the home directories at the label of the zone. a. Go to the zone’s /etc/dfs directory. # cd /zone/zone-name/root/etc/dfs I created the files as stated above but the files cannot be share from non-global zones (according to the error message I recieve) Also, I tried just rebooting the box and the nfs/server service was disabled and would not start until I removed the entries in each zone. Therefore, I added the entries the dfstab in the global zone. Now this is all on the LDAP server, is there anything I need to do to the clients? Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Elton, Are you trying to have each zone export their own shares? This sounds like a Trusted Extensions (TX) configuraton, in which case there is the illusion that is is supported (but it all really happens from the global zone still). Elton I'd recommend posting this in security-discuss and also clarifying if this really is TX. -- Darren J Moffat ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Re: was something else, now Packaging
On Wed, 2007-04-18 at 08:13 -0500, Shawn Walker wrote: If you're talking about *ugprading* between releases, it is not flawless for Ubuntu. I should know, that's the only Linux distribution I run. Indeed-- I find myself doing a complete Ubuntu reinstall every few months, because continually upgrading tends to accumulate config file crud that it shouldn't, and occasionally breaks things altogether. (Something that's only going to get worse for me I fear, now that PPC is off the supported platform list.) Cheeri, Calum. -- CALUM BENSON, Usability Engineer Sun Microsystems Ireland mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]GNOME Desktop Group http://ie.sun.com +353 1 819 9771 Any opinions are personal and not necessarily those of Sun Microsystems ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
[osol-discuss] Re: Re: Latest opensolaris VMware image
Correct, there are the four images you referenced available on this page: http://developers.sun.com/solaris/downloads/solaris_apps/index.jsp Those are the past 3 Solaris 10 releasese plus the current Solaris Express Developer Edition. But if you dig down one layer to the Solaris Express, Developer Edition page, you see three VMs: Solaris Developer Express stack VM - 1, English Solaris Developer Express stack VM - 2, English Solaris Developer Express stack VM - 3, English The linked README does not describe the difference between the three. Are they three parts that must be reassembled after download or three images? What's the difference between the three? Thanks, --DFA This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Re: was something else, not Packaging, documentation
From: Shawn Walker [EMAIL PROTECTED] Google indexes PDFs now, and I have gotten hit results from google searches that were from docs.sun.com many times. When I want to get a snippet of info, I much prefer a web page than a 90 page PDF. When I want to explore a subject in depth, I much prefer PDF (double sided printing on office printer, left stapling, and reading offline sort of thing.) So, I use both. But when doing a search on google, i usually ignore pdf links unless I have no other choice (and that's rare) Chris Mahan 818.943.1850 cell [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.christophermahan.com/ __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
[osol-discuss] zfs boot image patching kit available
This is mainly of interest to the zfs-discuss alias, but I had said I would post the availability of this kit to the main alias too, so here it is: This tarball; http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/install/files/zfsboot-kit-20060418.i386.tar.bz2 contains the necessary files for patching an install image to support profile-based install (i.e. jumpstart) of a system with a zfs root file system. It's pretty much of a hack. I can't even call it a preliminary version of what will ultimately be the real install software. Mainly, it's just a way to set up a zfs root that's a lot easier than the manual setup procedures we made available a couple weeks ago. It's also been a way for me to work my way through the install code and figure out what REALLY needs to be done to install to enable zfs boot. So if you're interested in trying it, unpack it and follow the instructions in the README file and let me know how it goes. Lori ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
[osol-discuss] Install Error
When I try and install Solaris 10 it asks for the software 5 disk. I do not know what it is asking for. It says I can skip the install but then it just wants to reboot and it comes back to the same place asking for the software 5 disk. Can anyone help??? This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Re: was something else, now Packaging
On 18/04/07, xiaoming zhu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 4/18/07, Shawn Walker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Solaris 10 already supports that feature if you use Sun Update Manager, if you're talking about updating. I have a question please: Does Solaris 10 support to boot directly from ZFS now? How can I update to this feature with Solaris 10? I've waited for this feature for so long time. Because I've learned that OpenSolaris has this feature now. Actually, it doesn't support it quite yet at last check. It wasn't fully integrated into the installer, etc. Debian has different releases/branches for different users: Stable (for server), unstable and testing . its stable version is equivalent to Solaris 10, its testing/unstable version may be equivalent to Open Solaris Developer/Community version (right?), for normal users, one big difference between both is: updating on Debian -like system is very easy, but updating on OpenSolaris is quite difficult. Using liveupgrade to go from Update 3 - testing releases works unless otherwise noted and is easy. -- Less is only more where more is no good. --Frank Lloyd Wright Shawn Walker, Software and Systems Analyst [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://binarycrusader.blogspot.com/ ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Re: was something else, now Packaging
On 18/04/07, xiaoming zhu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, I'd like to play the Solaris Express, but I cannot spend much effort/time to debug the kernel, I just want to have a simple tool/way to update/recover the system. If you install Solaris Express, that's exactly what you're opening yourself up for. You're *testing* an uncertified release that is also unsupported. I think it is unreasonable to expect all of the update management and other tools that you have in a production environment to be available in a testing environment given that the resources needed to make those things happen are not free and are better spent on the production release. -- Less is only more where more is no good. --Frank Lloyd Wright Shawn Walker, Software and Systems Analyst [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://binarycrusader.blogspot.com/ ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
[osol-discuss] Re: Another cool video (Was: Three screencasts of OpenSolaris Technologies
Hi all, The installation video has been updated to post-nv_55 installer for your use. Thanks to Mike Patino, Ginnie Wray, and Lynne Thompson for their hard work to do this. For the updated installation video, see http://frsun.downloads.edgesuite.net/sun/07C00892/media/demos/OpenSolarisDualBoot-Step4-OS-Installation.html Full list of install-related videos: http://frsun.downloads.edgesuite.net/sun/07C00892/index.html Thanks, Michelle This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Re: solaris 9 with xp
On 18/04/07, John Brewer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I will agree with creating two partitions, The Solaris installer only seems to see the FAT32 file system correctly, from when it calls fdisk from what I can tell the code is not still not yet there, and there should be a RFE for including NTFS. and so if you do not setup even just a small partition the XP for FAT32 and then Solaris fails the install to see the XP on boot menu. http://bugs.opensolaris.org/view_bug.do?bug_id=6223894 -- Less is only more where more is no good. --Frank Lloyd Wright Shawn Walker, Software and Systems Analyst [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://binarycrusader.blogspot.com/ ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Solaris 10 - WAN Boot Installation Limitations
On 4/19/07, Subramanian Chockalingam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have production Sun Fire v240's with Solaris 9 running and planning to upgrade to Solaris 10. Its all to be done through WAN Boot Installation using Flash Archive. What I'm worried about the limitation of Solaris 10 WAN boot allowing only 2 GBytes image and fails if its more? Is this only on specific Solaris 10 release U2 or U3? What is the work around or best practises? I have seen success for the following combinations with flash archive image size being way beyond 2GB. - boot/install server = Solaris_9, boot mini_root = Solaris_9 , target OS on the target system(flash archive contents) = Solaris_10 - boot/install server = Solaris_9, boot mini_root = Solaris_10, target OS on the target system(flash archive contents) = Solaris_10 A Solaris_10 system is not a requirement for a wan boot/install server to setup target systems with Solaris_10. I haven't tried with a Solais_10 boot/install server, but I presume the feature wouldn't be regressive. -Shiv ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Solaris 10 - WAN Boot Installation Limitations
Subramanian Chockalingam wrote: Hi, I have production Sun Fire v240's with Solaris 9 running and planning to upgrade to Solaris 10. Please try and stay on topic, OpenSolaris. Ian ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
[osol-discuss] Virtual Console new release available NOW!
This mail has been posted in virtual console discussion alias. The broadcasting is for those who may be interested in this feature on solaris. The new release for Virtual Console is available now, you can download and try for fun: http://opensolaris.org/os/project/vconsole/Downloads/ There is a brief changes list for your reference: 1. Add many secure feature, like secure switch via vtdaemon, which require password during switching. Follow SMF policy for vtdaemon and console-login service etc. 2. Virtual terminal names are changed as /dev/vt/#, and the 1st virtual terminal uses /dev/console, which can be accessed via Alt-F1. The second one uses /dev/vt/2 accordingly. 3. You can keep pressing Alt key during switching between several virtual consoles. ... Your feedback are appreciated. Enjoy! Regards, Lingbo ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
[osol-discuss] Re: Another cool video (Was: Three screencasts of OpenSolaris Technologies
It's a very nice video, two issues, one the MB they had picked has a USB issue on the kernel boot sequence and second the video is low resolution, which suggest the vender ID and device number for this video card used in the video is not supported is, you can tell by the big desktop icons and the resolution does not match the Windows XP screen resolution. A RFE needs to be filed. This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] How to initiate a distro ?
Ehlo, Belenix is Ok. I have read and install Belenix ... and downloading the remastering kit. Not yet success. Anyway, i have FTP access @Home, not @Office. with speed just 5kbs :D In your opinion which one is more appropriate for server ? As i see Belenix is targeted to DESKTOP, i prefer Schilix, as it os Ok for not having XWindows etc. Belenix advancement in its capability for remastering is great, but i am questioning its vision towards Desktop. For me, Linux is enough. Their desktop is excellence enough. Event remastering Knoppix is extremely simple. I propose Belenix move towards Server. If thats the path, i will be very happy with your remastering kit ... Best regards, Eko Budhi S On Wed, 2007-04-18 at 18:58, Joerg Schilling wrote: Anil Gulecha [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you can hack around with the scripts, you can add this to BeleniX, the opensolaris LiveCD. If your application isnt very big (under 1 mb).. you can easily add that to the miniroot of BeleniX, so the distributed version (On USB or CD) will contian your applications. The upcoming release of BeleniX would make addition of utilities much simpler.. but you'll have to wait for a couple of weeks. As he has no ftp access, things seem to be hard for him Jörg ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
[osol-discuss] How to get disk parameters?
Hi, I want to get various disk parameters including disk serial numbers (or disk IDs). How do I do that on thumper with OpenSoalris? Is there any equivalent command for hdparm on Solaris? Regards, _Atul ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
