Re: [osol-discuss] driver module is version depended?
On Feb 18, 2008 5:24 AM, Richard Zhao [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For linux kernel 2.6, modules are version depended. one to one. What about solaris? Solaris has outstanding backward compatibility. If you adhere to published API when developing your kernel module, you will be able to run your module on revision you compiled it and up. The oldest kernel module I created was developed on Solaris 2.4 AFAIK, it (same binary) is still running at a couple of places. The list of known incompatibilities is small and the way we try to minimize disruption as much as possible. From memory, the list of disruption is more or less as follows: - Removal of MT Unsafe driver support in Solaris 2.6 - Introduction of 64 bit SPARC support (Solaris 7) - Introduction of 64 bit amd64 support (Solaris 10) In other cases, changes to interfaces have typically caused new interfaces to be defined. Casper ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
[osol-discuss] Mesa 7.0.2 support in OpenSolaris
When will Mesa 7.0.2 be incorporated into OpenSolaris to provide OpenGL 2.1 support? This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] [advocacy-discuss] OpenSolaris Developer Preview
It's true, OpenSolaris (Indiana) will replace Solaris Express Developer Edition after SXDE 1/08. I am a bit surprised that you think the product will be up to the same level in a few of months time as the current SXDE 1/08. At the moment the two areas which concern me are how I can do network Jumpstart installs - nearly at a flick of a switch I can upgrade a lab of machines running the latest and greatest OpenSolaris. I can't use Solaris 10 since of the outdated interfaces. Also, I still like the single download - it may be a DVD size, but at least it is done in one go and it allows me to upgrade my home machine in one easy go! Is there any way of doing this at the moment i.e. mass download of packages to install at a later date? Don't get me wrong Indiana is the way of the future with its small download, install and then package update for ever more for the desktop world, but I can't not see it for the Solaris Server World. Thanks anyway for the clarification. Andrew ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] [advocacy-discuss] OpenSolaris Developer Preview
Try to be more visible then, posting what's up with Indiana and what changes to the project are being discussed. Instead it appears that you only show up when shit hits the fan on one of the mailing lists. Read the indiana-discuss list or the various other discussion lists for projects related to it. Ian's able to make rather big decisions, since it's his project after all. The branding decision didn't hit the lists until it had been decided (and caused quite a fuzz), same happened right now with SX*E MkII. I'm referring to announcing things like this, when they're still in the consideration phase. At least that's how I think it should be with all the emphasis on community. The community doesn't want to be left out of the loop. Shawn Walker wrote: Such an attitude towards those working in the area of marketing is disheartening, and to me, against our core community values. Yeah, well, maybe I'm a bit cranky because said marketing is advocating how the open community is influencing and participating in Indiana, yet requires a troublemaker stepping on someone's foot to actually notified about a rather fundamental decision. p.s. When quoting it might be helpful to quote only one message at a time and not remove names :) Whoops, sorry. Was trying to reduce clutter. Guess that went the other way. -mg signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] No sound with OSS on Solaris 10
Hi, I also experienced the same problem as you_nix. I've installed the OSSv4 sucessfully, but still No sound. On issuing 'ossdetect' I can also hear music playing. So I issued 'ossinfo -v' as suggested by you this happened : === bash-3.2# ossinfo -v Version info: OSS 4.0 (b1013/200802181324) (0x00040003) CDDL Platform: SunOS/i86pc 5.11 snv_79a (Mystery_Machine) Number of audio devices:2 Number of audio engines:10 Number of mixer devices:1 Device objects 0: osscore0 OSS common devices 1: hdaudio0 ATI HD Audio interrupts=4552 (11279) HD Audio controller ATI HD Audio Vendor ID0x1002437b Subvendor ID 0x30b0103c Codec 0: AD1981 (0x11d41981/0x103c30b0) Codec 1: Unknown (0x14f12bfa/0x103c30b0) 2: vmix0 OSS transparent virtual support 3: sadasupport0 SADA compatibility layer Mixer devices 0: High Definition Audio AD1981 (Mixer 0 of device object 1) Device file /dev/oss/hdaudio0/mix0, Legacy device /dev/mixer0 Priority: 10 Caps: Audio devices High Definition Audio play/dev/oss/hdaudio0/pcm0 (device index 0) Legacy device /dev/dsp0 Caps: TRIGGER Modes: OUTPUT Out engine 1: Available for use Out engine 2: Available for use Out engine 3: Available for use Out engine 4: Available for use Out engine 5: Available for use Out engine 6: Available for use Out engine 7: Available for use Out engine 8: Available for use Out engine 9: Available for use High Definition Audio null string /dev/oss/hdaudio0/pcm1 (device index 1) Legacy device /dev/dsp1 Caps: TRIGGER Modes: OUTPUT Out engine 1: Available for use bash-3.2# === My Config : Solaris Express Developer Edition 1/08 (32 Bit) AMD Sempron 1.6 GHz, 1.5 GB RAM, SoundMAX HD Audio etc. Please suggest some solution. My sound card is soundMAX HD audio. If possible then also please mail the solution to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks a lot. Regards Ajay Kumar Sun Campus Ambassador IIITM-Kerala India. This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] [advocacy-discuss] OpenSolaris Developer Preview
On Feb 18, 2008 8:45 AM, Mario Goebbels [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Try to be more visible then, posting what's up with Indiana and what changes to the project are being discussed. Instead it appears that you only show up when shit hits the fan on one of the mailing lists. Read the indiana-discuss list or the various other discussion lists for projects related to it. Ian's able to make rather big decisions, since it's his project after all. The branding decision didn't hit the lists until it had been decided (and caused quite a fuzz), same happened right now with SX*E MkII. I'm referring to announcing things like this, when they're still in the consideration phase. At least that's how I think it should be with all the emphasis on community. The community doesn't want to be left out of the loop. Both the naming decision and the SX*E MkII were first dicussed last year, at the very least, in October 2007. -- Shawn Walker, Software and Systems Analyst http://binarycrusader.blogspot.com/ To err is human -- and to blame it on a computer is even more so. - Robert Orben ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] No sound with OSS on Solaris 10
Hi, I have experienced problems with OSS which appear to be related to the /dev/audio device which is linked to /devices/pseudo/[EMAIL PROTECTED]:sound,audio. So that applications which /dev/audio do not produce any sound. I used Ogle, Mplayer and XMMS which can be downloaded from blastwave.org. XMMS needs to be configured to use the Sun Audio device and not the OSS device, it will generate an error but play okay. Realplayer and Flash also work without problem. This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Mesa 7.0.2 support in OpenSolaris
russell aspinwall wrote: When will Mesa 7.0.2 be incorporated into OpenSolaris to provide OpenGL 2.1 support? TBD. It's on the X team's list of things to update, but that is a very very very long list at the moment, and since few people have had anything that needs 7.0.2 instead of 6.5.2 or the nvidia version of OpenGL, it's not been our top priority (or at least few people have told us if they do - the only thing I've been asked for from 7.0.2 is the updated Intel driver support). -- -Alan Coopersmith- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sun Microsystems, Inc. - X Window System Engineering ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] [advocacy-discuss] OpenSolaris Developer Preview
It hasn't come up recently or something, early presentations (way before the first preview) on Indiana were all pointing out that the plan is to replace SXDE with Indiana and that SXDE 1/08 will possibly be the last Nevada. This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
[osol-discuss] Trying to install Indiana (My Observations)
Hi,New to OpenSolaris. I received Indiana (5.11, snv_75)at Sun Days (Atlanta). I bought a(n) used PC and tried to install it. Here are my observations so far. 1. My 17 flat screen is too small for the language choices screen. 2. I have no idea what Took interface e1000g0 down means. 3. When I picked on Install OpenSolaris, I see no disks listed.I looks on the OpenSolaris web site to see how to solve this,but did not see anything. This is probably a PC issue, butit would be good to at least point folks to a solution so theoverall user experience is good. So I quit out of the install. 4. Finally I clicked on system icon on top of the screen and thenclicked on Shutdown. I got this error message: User does not have permission to use gnome-sys-suspend command. Also I finally noticed it said that it would shutdown in 60 seconds, so I waited and got the above error message again. Next I brought up a terminal and su root and typed shutdown, but that did not work either. I hate shutting down a system without permission. I'm sure that some of these issues have been fixed, but if not, I have contributed. Cheers,Al Snow If helpful: I have Solaris 10 Operation System 8/07 Developer Tools. I have Solaris Nevada B80 x86 DVD. I have Solaris 11 svn_78 x64 DVD. I have OpenSolaris starter kit. I have Solaris Express Developer Edition DVD. I have Sun Developer Network All Access Kit DVD. I have Sun Application Porting Assistant disk. I have NetBeans 6.0 disk. EOF _ Climb to the top of the charts! Play the word scramble challenge with star power. http://club.live.com/star_shuffle.aspx?icid=starshuffle_wlmailtextlink_jan___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] [advocacy-discuss] OpenSolaris Developer Preview
Shawn Walker wrote: On Feb 18, 2008 8:45 AM, Mario Goebbels [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Try to be more visible then, posting what's up with Indiana and what changes to the project are being discussed. Instead it appears that you only show up when shit hits the fan on one of the mailing lists. Read the indiana-discuss list or the various other discussion lists for projects related to it. Ian's able to make rather big decisions, since it's his project after all. The branding decision didn't hit the lists until it had been decided (and caused quite a fuzz), same happened right now with SX*E MkII. I'm referring to announcing things like this, when they're still in the consideration phase. At least that's how I think it should be with all the emphasis on community. The community doesn't want to be left out of the loop. Both the naming decision and the SX*E MkII were first dicussed last year, at the very least, in October 2007. Far earlier actualy. I remember Ian speaking at Java One last year about it -- -- Michal Bielicki CEO http://www.voiceworks.pl/ Voice Works Sp. z o.o. z siedziba w Warszawie przy ulicy Polnej 46/14, 00-644 Warszawa, Polska wpisana zostala do rejestru przedsiebiorcow prowadzonego przez Sad Rejonowy dla M.ST.Warszawy w Warszawie, XII Wydzial Krajowego Rejestru Sadowego pod numerem KRS 257259. NIP 701-00-25-117 Wysokosc kapitalu zakladowego: 51000,00 PLN ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] No sound with OSS on Solaris 10
Hi, I have experienced problems with OSS which appear to be related to the /dev/audio device which is linked to /devices/pseudo/[EMAIL PROTECTED]:sound,audio. So that applications which /dev/audio do not produce any sound. I used Ogle, Mplayer and XMMS which can be downloaded from blastwave.org. XMMS needs to be configured to use the Sun Audio device and not the OSS device, it will generate an error but play okay. Realplayer and Flash also work without problem. Haven't tried on x86 recently (not having a working x86 box right now), but I've never gotten the OSS SADA (Sun Audio Device Architecture - the pre-existing audio interface on Solaris) compatibility support to work, even with OSS releases as of a few weeks ago. Until that works, and works well, there's not much point for me, esp. as I've also never gotten the Mute light on my Audigy NX USB(under OSS) to go out, so that although with newer OSS osstest seems to work, you still don't hear anything. (it did work when I plugged it into a Windows box once...) This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] No sound with OSS on Solaris 10
On Feb 18, 2008 12:05 PM, Richard L. Hamilton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I have experienced problems with OSS which appear to be related to the /dev/audio device which is linked to /devices/pseudo/[EMAIL PROTECTED]:sound,audio. So that applications which /dev/audio do not produce any sound. I used Ogle, Mplayer and XMMS which can be downloaded from blastwave.org. XMMS needs to be configured to use the Sun Audio device and not the OSS device, it will generate an error but play okay. Realplayer and Flash also work without problem. Haven't tried on x86 recently (not having a working x86 box right now), but I've never gotten the OSS SADA (Sun Audio Device Architecture - the pre-existing audio interface on Solaris) compatibility support to work, even with OSS releases as of a few weeks ago. Until that works, and works well, there's not much point for me, esp. as I've also never gotten the Mute light on my Audigy NX USB(under OSS) to go out, so that although with newer OSS osstest seems to work, you still don't hear anything. (it did work when I plugged it into a Windows box once...) The SADA support has worked for me on my Audigy 2 for quite some time now. -- Shawn Walker, Software and Systems Analyst http://binarycrusader.blogspot.com/ To err is human -- and to blame it on a computer is even more so. - Robert Orben ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Mesa 7.0.2 support in OpenSolaris
russell aspinwall wrote: When will Mesa 7.0.2 be incorporated into OpenSolaris to provide OpenGL 2.1 support? Alan Coopersmith wrote: TBD. It's on the X team's list of things to update, but that is a very very very long list at the moment, and since few people have had anything that needs 7.0.2 instead of 6.5.2 or the nvidia version of OpenGL, it's not been our top priority (or at least few people have told us if they do - the only thing I've been asked for from 7.0.2 is the updated Intel driver support). --- Alan, Ref: http://www.blastwave.org/packages.php/mesalibs Would it break your builds of Xorg 7.2 or the video device drivers if Mesa 7.0.2 was added?!? The game, DangerDeep, and Demoniak3D are a few applications that benefit from Mesa 7.0.2. I worked on porting Blender (now v2.46) for Blastwave.org when we updated to Mesa 7.0.x for game development and porting projects (way before the Nvidia drivers were officially supported on Solaris). This is just something that benefits both OpenSolaris desktop and gaming developers wanting to explore GLSL 1.20.x programming on Solaris - yet not having Nvidia GPUs in their laptops or workstations. I mentioned this about two years ago on getting OpenGL 2.1 API compliant support on OpenSolaris/Solaris 10 and submitted an RFE as well. Wouldn't Mesa 7.0.2/7.1 benefit Xorg video device driver 3D development and testing?!? ~ Ken Mays Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Anyone using zfs and CIFS yet?
hello, quick snapshot: I also followed the instructions at http://opensolaris.org/os/project/cifs-server/gettingstarted.html and did get share access from vista on ncp, but following the same instructions in nexentastor resulted in authentication errors when trying to access from vista. joseph This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Increase swap space when its mirrored
So if one of the disks goes south you dont send the system off into the weeds because /tmp is blown up, backing store for stacks/heap/other anon disappear, etc. Spanning swap across two spindles instead of mirroring swap on an erstwhile HA system just introduces two single points of failure. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael Lee Sent: Friday, February 15, 2008 1:28 PM To: opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org Subject: Re: [osol-discuss] Increase swap space when its mirrored Why do you want to mirror swap? I would take swap off of mdb and use the two partitions as swap. This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] NexentaCP and X
Erast, Much thanks! I was trying to apt-get install nexenta-gnome, but I did not find the unofficial repository... I'll try it and let the community know. btw, what happened to the gnusolaris site? I recall substantial forums wikis and nexenta.com says they moved them there, but I cannot locate them. I'm also trying to get samba / cifs working on nexentastor, but having some issue. I'm running nexentastor ncp in vmware-server on ubuntu gutsy. I had attached two esata drives to nexentastor and built a zfs dataset, but was unable to get the smb share working. So, now, I'll probably take the two disks and build a zfs in ncp that I can share. Then when nexentastore 0.99.5 comes out with the cifs corrections, I should be able to move the zfs over, correct? Again, much thanks! joseph This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] NexentaCP and X
ok, I added deb http://www.nexenta.org/apt-gnusolaris elatte-stable main contrib non-free and ran apt-get update and apt-get install nexenta-gnome but no joy, I checked and the elatt-stable directories (alpha 7) are empty. the unstable ones had packages so I changed the line in etc/apt/source.list to deb http://www.nexenta.org/apt-gnusolaris elatte-unstable main contrib non-free and then ran apt-get update and apt-get install nexenta-gnome it's downloading about 500Mb of dependencies, so it will take a while... will let the team know how it's going. thanks again, joseph This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] NexentaCP and X
Erast, Much thanks! I was trying to apt-get install nexenta-gnome, but I did not find the unofficial repository... I'll try it and let the community know. btw, what happened to the gnusolaris site? I recall substantial forums wikis and nexenta.com says they moved them there, but I cannot locate them. I'm also trying to get samba / cifs working on nexentastor, but having some issue. I'm running nexentastor ncp in vmware-server on ubuntu gutsy. I had attached two esata drives to nexentastor and built a zfs dataset, but was unable to get the smb share working. So, now, I'll probably take the two disks and build a zfs in ncp that I can share. Then when nexentastore 0.99.5 comes out with the cifs corrections, I should be able to move the zfs over, correct? Again, much thanks! joseph -Original Message- From: Erast Benson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, February 18, 2008 6:14 PM To: joseph schafer Cc: opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org Subject: Re: [osol-discuss] NexentaCP and X Joseph, there is NCP 1.0 compatible repository, which supports GNOME, and it still could be used, though, officially not supported: http://www.nexenta.org/apt-gnusolaris Just use that for you /etc/apt/sources.list and install gnome like: apt-get install nexenta-gnome I know that some developers working on XFCE NCP1-based distribution - it is going to be fully re-distributable work, under CDDL license, likely with its own name and its own web-site. We also started NCP 2.0 branch: http://www.nexenta.org/ncp2 Though, it is under heavy construction right now. NCP 2.0 will be based on Ubuntu Hardy - next Long Term Support (LTS) release. On Mon, 2008-02-18 at 15:01 -0800, joseph schafer wrote: erast, thank you for all of the info. From my searches, it seems that folks have gotten gnome to work on ncp1. Can you please provide a quick howto? I've tried to apt-get gnome-common, but this was insufficient. much thanks, joseph This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
