[osol-discuss] print env vars of another process
Is there any way to print the list of environment variables of a running process ? In linux i could use ps -ueww or cat /proc//environ, is there a similar feature in opensolaris ? -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] print env vars of another process
>Is there any way to print the list of environment variables of a running >process ? >In linux i could use ps -ueww or cat /proc//environ, is there a similar >feature in opensolaris ? pargs -e $$ Casper ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] print env vars of another process
Ralf wrote: > Is there any way to print the list of environment variables of a running > process ? > In linux i could use ps -ueww or cat /proc//environ, is there a similar > feature in opensolaris ? This is incorrect syntax ;-) The old historic UNIX ps that prints environment vars does not use '-' to start options. Sinply use: ps aeww Jörg -- EMail:jo...@schily.isdn.cs.tu-berlin.de (home) Jörg Schilling D-13353 Berlin j...@cs.tu-berlin.de(uni) joerg.schill...@fokus.fraunhofer.de (work) Blog: http://schily.blogspot.com/ URL: http://cdrecord.berlios.de/private/ ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/schily ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] ATI Radeon 1650 DRI
--- On Mon, 7/6/09, Alan Coopersmith wrote: > From: Alan Coopersmith > Subject: Re: [osol-discuss] ATI Radeon 1650 DRI > To: "Alexander" > Cc: "OpenSolaris X Window System List" , > opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org > Date: Monday, July 6, 2009, 5:01 PM > Alexander wrote: > > I want to enable DRI support for ATI Radeon 1650, but > /var/log/Xorg.0.log shows: > > I'm pretty sure you would first have to port a newer > version of the ATI DRM > module to the OpenSolaris kernel, as the current radeon DRM > is older than > Radeon 1000-series support. This would not be worth the effort to port the ATI DRM at this time. The Xorg ATI 3D driver is not really reliable in doing any high-level rendering and still a major work in progress. This might become more promising if we were to port over ATI's Catalyst driver project. I expect this to change by Nov 2009 - but the workaround is to use Nvidia-based cards for any 3D rendering/OpenGL work for now. You can get decent Nvidia Quadro FX and GeForce FX 8xxx-based cards for about $35-50 USD. ~ Ken Mays ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] print env vars of another process
Joerg Schilling schrieb: > Ralf wrote: > >> Is there any way to print the list of environment variables of a running >> process ? >> In linux i could use ps -ueww or cat /proc//environ, is there a similar >> feature in opensolaris ? > > This is incorrect syntax ;-) > > The old historic UNIX ps that prints environment vars does not use '-' to > start options. > > Sinply use: > > ps aeww > > Jörg > > uname -a SunOS dev00sol64 5.10 Generic_118833-33 sun4u sparc > /usr/bin/ps aeww usage: ps [ -aAdeflcjLPyZ ] [ -o format ] [ -t termlist ] [ -u userlist ] [ -U userlist ] [ -G grouplist ] [ -p proclist ] [ -g pgrplist ] [ -s sidlist ] [ -z zonelist ] 'format' is one or more of: user ruser group rgroup uid ruid gid rgid pid ppid pgid sid taskid ctid pri opri pcpu pmem vsz rss osz nice class time etime stime zone zoneid f s c lwp nlwp psr tty addr wchan fname comm args projid project pset I guess you are referring to /usr/ucb/ps of Solaris 10. OpenSolaris' ps doesn't emit the environement with auww... Anyway, I'd prefer pargs -e - Thomas ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] regretting for OS... (was ATI Radeon 1650 DRI)
Thank you all for replies... Nothing personal, but let's review my expreience with OpenSolaris as desktop system. 1) There were no support for extended partitions in OSOL 2009.06. It's a big disadvantage, cause I have a lot of data on NTFS-formatted logical drive on extended partition. No matter, I've said, there will be snv build 119 and everything will be ok. 2) There are not enough gstreamer plugins (all suggestions are to BUY fluendo codecs). Why should I do it, if there is gstreamer-plugins-ugly? I can compile it... Yes, but after compilation totem dies trying to play WMA files But I still can try to compile mplayer. Yes, but it fails to compile with strange errors about asm files... 3) I'd like to use MY graphic card, I've already bought it for about 70-100$ and it is not a small amount money for me... Maybe I should wait for OpenSolaris 10.02 of course 4) It's said on winehq site that Wine support with sound is available starting from snv_116, but 09.06 is snv_111b-based... When I'm trying to update to snv_117, ips tries to download approximately 330 Mb... Not very good. But I need to update to snv_119 to see my partition, and it's not ready. And there were strange issues with transfering files (some network timeouts, happening only with pkg.opensolaris.org)... And last... It is possible to run Oracle 10g R2 on Solaris/x64. It could work on OpenSolaris with some tricks... But there is Oracle 11g already. And it is supported on Linux without so many hacks. So, at the end we have the following disadvantages of running OpenSolaris as desktop system 1) insufficient of drivers; 2) insufficient of codecs; 3) insufficient of 3-rd party software support... No, seriously. I really like OpenSolaris (I support two SR servers, running on it). Zones, ZFS, DTrace are perfect tools for server systems. But in my mind for desktop OpenSolaris is not enough. Everything is going to work (if you pay money or wait for next releases or work for at least several days on this problem...). Maybe when OSOL 2010.02 comes out, I'll give it a chance... But now as a desktop OS Ubuntu rocks... It just works. Without any tambourine dances. > I expect this to change by Nov 2009 - but the > workaround is to use Nvidia-based cards for any 3D > rendering/OpenGL work for now. You can get decent > Nvidia Quadro FX and GeForce FX 8xxx-based cards for > about $35-50 USD. -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
[osol-discuss] Issue with Opensolaris Zone Installation?
I have been following the following link : http://blogs.sun.com/observatory/entry/zones It went fine when I did it at my Home Laptop with internet connectivity but in office where they have put firewall it stucked at: [code] r...@opensolaris:~# pfexec zoneadm -z myzone1 install A ZFS file system has been created for this zone. Authority: Using http://pkg.opensolaris.org/release/. Image: Preparing at /zones/myzone1/root ...pkg: 0/1 catalogs successfully updated: 1: Transfer from 'opensolaris.org' timed out: timed out. 2: Transfer from 'opensolaris.org' timed out: timed out. 3: Transfer from 'opensolaris.org' timed out: timed out. 4: Transfer from 'opensolaris.org' timed out: timed out. failed to create image rm: Unable to remove directory /zones/myzone1/root: Device busy zoneadm: zone 'myzone1': '/usr/bin/rm -rf' failed with exit code 2. zoneadm: myzone1: cleaning up zonepath failed: Empty document r...@opensolaris:~# [/code] Do i really internet connectivity for creating zones. Pls Suggest. -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] print env vars of another process
thanks a lot, pargs is what i was looking for. -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] print env vars of another process
>> uname -a >SunOS dev00sol64 5.10 Generic_118833-33 sun4u sparc >> /usr/bin/ps aeww >usage: ps [ -aAdeflcjLPyZ ] [ -o format ] [ -t termlist ] >[ -u userlist ] [ -U userlist ] [ -G grouplist ] >[ -p proclist ] [ -g pgrplist ] [ -s sidlist ] [ -z zonelist = >] > 'format' is one or more of: >user ruser group rgroup uid ruid gid rgid pid ppid pgid sid >taskid ctid >pri opri pcpu pmem vsz rss osz nice class time etime stime zo= >ne >zoneid >f s c lwp nlwp psr tty addr wchan fname comm args projid proj= >ect >pset > >I guess you are referring to /usr/ucb/ps of Solaris 10. OpenSolaris' = >ps doesn't emit the environement with auww... But it does so with "ps aeww" (though I think I need to check this because it doesn't work for most processes, even my own) Casper ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] ATI Radeon 1650 DRI
ken mays wrote: > This would not be worth the effort to port the ATI DRM at this time. The Xorg > ATI 3D driver is not really reliable in doing any high-level rendering and > still a major work in progress. This might become more > promising if we were to port over ATI's Catalyst driver project. I would be astounded and amazed (and delighted) if you could get ATI to release their encumbered proprietary Catalyst driver sources for you to port. -- -Alan Coopersmith- alan.coopersm...@sun.com Sun Microsystems, Inc. - X Window System Engineering ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] print env vars of another process
casper@sun.com wrote: > >I guess you are referring to /usr/ucb/ps of Solaris 10. OpenSolaris' = > >ps doesn't emit the environement with auww... > > But it does so with "ps aeww" (though I think I need to check this > because it doesn't work for most processes, even my own) This is no Solaris 10 discussion and SXCE does include a ps program that works this way ;-) Jörg -- EMail:jo...@schily.isdn.cs.tu-berlin.de (home) Jörg Schilling D-13353 Berlin j...@cs.tu-berlin.de(uni) joerg.schill...@fokus.fraunhofer.de (work) Blog: http://schily.blogspot.com/ URL: http://cdrecord.berlios.de/private/ ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/schily ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] regretting for OS... (was ATI Radeon 1650 DRI)
Hello, Alexander! > 1) There were no support for extended partitions in OSOL 2009.06. It's a big > disadvantage, cause I have a lot of data on NTFS-formatted logical drive on > extended partition. No matter, I've said, there will be snv build 119 and > everything will be ok. Follow this procedure: Download the FSWfspart and FSWfsmisc from the Belenix site, install them, and follow the instructions on the README files. You are going to be able to access the NTFS, ext2 and ext3 partitions you could have. > 2) There are not enough gstreamer plugins (all suggestions are to BUY > fluendo codecs). Why should I do it, if there is gstreamer-plugins-ugly? I > can compile it... Yes, but after compilation totem dies trying to play WMA > files But I still can try to compile mplayer. Yes, but it fails to > compile with strange errors about asm files... Follow this procedure: (as root) # pkg set-authority -O http://ips.homeunix.com:1 ips.homeunix.com # pkg refresh --full # pkg install MBLgst-plugin-mp3 MBLgst-plugin-dvd MBLgst-plugin-ffmpeg Open your music /video player, and enjoy. (...) > And last... It is possible to run Oracle 10g R2 on Solaris/x64. It could work > on OpenSolaris with some tricks... But there is Oracle 11g already. And it is > supported on Linux without so many hacks. One of the top senior core technology Oracle guys is working with us, in our community (AOSUG, Argentina OpenSolaris Users Group), to port several Oracle products and configurations (it's not only the Oracle database as a standalone product, he's working on the RAC, extended RAC, dataguard, etc. configurations). We'll be posting the How to's very soon in our forum, and in our new website. > > So, at the end we have the following disadvantages of running OpenSolaris as > desktop system > 1) insufficient of drivers; I had the same disadvantage with every new operating system I've used in the past, it happened with my NVidia drivers, for example. Trust in our communities, we are making everything to port as much as we can, in the shortest time! > 2) insufficient of codecs; Solved! Look my previuos notes. > 3) insufficient of 3-rd party software support... Try to include the contrib repository as well. There are tons of other SW to install there. And if Oracle is your problem, in no more than two weeks we are publishing our notes about it. > > No, seriously. I really like OpenSolaris (I support two SR servers, running > on it). > Zones, ZFS, DTrace are perfect tools for server systems. > > But in my mind for desktop OpenSolaris is not enough. Everything is going to > work (if you pay money or wait for next releases or work for at least several > days on this problem...). Maybe when OSOL 2010.02 comes out, I'll give it a > chance... But now as a desktop OS Ubuntu rocks... It just works. Without any > tambourine dances. > > > I expect this to change by Nov 2009 - but the > > workaround is to use Nvidia-based cards for any 3D > > rendering/OpenGL work for now. You can get decent > > Nvidia Quadro FX and GeForce FX 8xxx-based cards for > > about $35-50 USD. Best regards, HeCSa. ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] print env vars of another process
Joerg Schilling schrieb: > casper@sun.com wrote: > >>> I guess you are referring to /usr/ucb/ps of Solaris 10. OpenSolaris' = >>> ps doesn't emit the environement with auww... >> But it does so with "ps aeww" (though I think I need to check this >> because it doesn't work for most processes, even my own) > > This is no Solaris 10 discussion and SXCE does include a ps program that > works > this way ;-) > > Jörg > Jörg, which option set or ps are you referring to. Casper is right with aeww, but your auww proposal doesn't work on OpenSolaris: tho...@opensolaris:~> uname -a SunOS opensolaris 5.11 snv_117 i86pc i386 i86pc tho...@opensolaris:~> which ps /usr/bin/ps tho...@opensolaris:~> ps auww USER PID %CPU %MEM SZ RSS TT SSTART TIME COMMAND thomas 571 0.3 0.6 3848 2752 pts/1S 16:46:32 0:00 -tcsh thomas 582 0.1 0.3 2760 1220 pts/1O 16:46:43 0:00 ps -auww thomas 427 0.0 0.6 3844 2748 console S 16:44:23 0:00 -tcsh tho...@opensolaris:~> ps aeww PID TT S TIME COMMAND 427 console S 0:00 -tcsh HOME=/home/thomas PATH=/opt/SunStudioExpress/prod/ [snip] ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] print env vars of another process
Thomas Maier-Komor wrote: > Jörg, which option set or ps are you referring to. Casper is right with > aeww, but your auww proposal doesn't work on OpenSolaris: If I did really write "u" instead of an "e" this was a typo. Jörg -- EMail:jo...@schily.isdn.cs.tu-berlin.de (home) Jörg Schilling D-13353 Berlin j...@cs.tu-berlin.de(uni) joerg.schill...@fokus.fraunhofer.de (work) Blog: http://schily.blogspot.com/ URL: http://cdrecord.berlios.de/private/ ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/schily ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] print env vars of another process
>Thomas Maier-Komor wrote: > >> Jörg, which option set or ps are you referring to. Casper is right with >> aeww, but your auww proposal doesn't work on OpenSolaris: > >If I did really write "u" instead of an "e" this was a typo. You wrote "aeww". Casper ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Issue with Opensolaris Zone Installation?
Ajeet wrote: I have been following the following link : http://blogs.sun.com/observatory/entry/zones It went fine when I did it at my Home Laptop with internet connectivity but in office where they have put firewall it stucked at: [code] r...@opensolaris:~# pfexec zoneadm -z myzone1 install A ZFS file system has been created for this zone. Authority: Using http://pkg.opensolaris.org/release/. Image: Preparing at /zones/myzone1/root ...pkg: 0/1 catalogs successfully updated: 1: Transfer from 'opensolaris.org' timed out: timed out. 2: Transfer from 'opensolaris.org' timed out: timed out. 3: Transfer from 'opensolaris.org' timed out: timed out. 4: Transfer from 'opensolaris.org' timed out: timed out. failed to create image rm: Unable to remove directory /zones/myzone1/root: Device busy zoneadm: zone 'myzone1': '/usr/bin/rm -rf' failed with exit code 2. zoneadm: myzone1: cleaning up zonepath failed: Empty document r...@opensolaris:~# [/code] Do i really internet connectivity for creating zones. Currently, yes, internet connectivity is required for zone setup. That will change at some point in the future, but for now, it is required. Cheers, -- Shawn Walker ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
[osol-discuss] Need Help in python installation related problems
Hi , I am getting some python installation related problems on the Solaris Server11. I am using Python 2.5.2.Can anyone tell me what what went wrong?? Following is the Trace of the Error that we are getting [j...@fhcy8waa /download/Conector/MySQL-python-1.2.2]$ python setup.py install Traceback (most recent call last): File "setup.py", line 5, in import ez_setup; ez_setup.use_setuptools() File "/download/Conector/MySQL-python-1.2.2/ez_setup.py", line 83, in use_setuptools egg = download_setuptools(version, download_base, to_dir, download_delay) File "/download/Conector/MySQL-python-1.2.2/ez_setup.py", line 111, in download_setuptools import urllib2, shutil File "/usr/local/lib/python2.5/urllib2.py", line 91, in import hashlib File "/usr/local/lib/python2.5/hashlib.py", line 133, in md5 = __get_builtin_constructor('md5') File "/usr/local/lib/python2.5/hashlib.py", line 60, in __get_builtin_constructor import _md5 ImportError: No module named _md5 what is the root cause for this error.anyone please help me in this issue. Regards Rammohan -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] No VirtualBox guest graphical login
On Tue, Jul 07, 2009 at 06:24:51PM -0700, Darran Kartaschew wrote: > @willf > > I had a similar problem with Virtual Box 3.0 Guest Additions not installing a > valid xorg.conf file. > > To fix it, goto /opt/VirtualBoxAdditions and run x11config15sol.pl as root. > > restart X and you should be fine with the screen resize and mouse integration. Yep, that fixed the problems (mouse capture and desktop resizing) I was having with VB 3.0 and the snv_117 OpenSolaris guest. Thanks for posting that (love an easy fix)! > Also can you post if the VB 3.0 GA broke OpenGL or not? (run > /usr/X11/bin/glxinfo from CLI, and report back what it says). Ran it and this is what I saw: ld.so.1: glxinfo: fatal: relocation error: file /usr/lib/libGL.so.1: symbol glXFreeMemoryMESA: referenced symbol not found ld.so.1: glxinfo: fatal: relocation error: file /usr/X11/bin/glxinfo: symbol glXChooseVisual: referenced symbol not found -- Will Fiveash Sun Microsystems Inc. http://opensolaris.org/os/project/kerberos/ Sent from mutt, a sweet ASCII MUA ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] regretting for OS... (was ATI Radeon 1650 DRI)
Hello. Thanks for reply. The news that there will be quite normal instructions on Oracle 10g installation is a reason for me to wait for some time. My sweet dreams are to see 11g on Solaris/x64... В ср, 08/07/2009 в 10:51 -0300, HeCSa пишет: > > 1) There were no support for extended partitions in OSOL 2009.06. It's a > > big disadvantage, cause I have a lot of data on NTFS-formatted logical > > drive on extended partition. No matter, I've said, there will be snv build > > 119 and everything will be ok. > > Follow this procedure: > Download the FSWfspart and FSWfsmisc from the Belenix site, install > them, and follow the instructions on the README files. You are going to > be able to access the NTFS, ext2 and ext3 partitions you could have. One question... How is it going to do it without kernel extended partitions support? I've compiled ntfs-3g, but in snv_111b it sees only primary partitions. Waiting for snv_119. > > 2) There are not enough gstreamer plugins (all suggestions are to BUY > > fluendo codecs). Why should I do it, if there is gstreamer-plugins-ugly? I > > can compile it... Yes, but after compilation totem dies trying to play WMA > > files But I still can try to compile mplayer. Yes, but it fails to > > compile with strange errors about asm files... > > Follow this procedure: > (as root) > # pkg set-authority -O http://ips.homeunix.com:1 ips.homeunix.com > # pkg refresh --full > # pkg install MBLgst-plugin-mp3 MBLgst-plugin-dvd MBLgst-plugin-ffmpeg > Open your music /video player, and enjoy. I've installed these packages. WMA is not played (Totem says: "ASF plugin missed"). I'll try mplayer with gcc4... > > > And last... It is possible to run Oracle 10g R2 on Solaris/x64. It could > > work on OpenSolaris with some tricks... But there is Oracle 11g already. > > And it is supported on Linux without so many hacks. > > One of the top senior core technology Oracle guys is working with us, in > our community (AOSUG, Argentina OpenSolaris Users Group), to port > several Oracle products and configurations (it's not only the Oracle > database as a standalone product, he's working on the RAC, extended RAC, > dataguard, etc. configurations). We'll be posting the How to's very soon > in our forum, and in our new website. > It's a really good news... Could you send me a link, when everything is ready? > > > > So, at the end we have the following disadvantages of running OpenSolaris > > as desktop system > > 1) insufficient of drivers; > > I had the same disadvantage with every new operating system I've used in > the past, it happened with my NVidia drivers, for example. Trust in our > communities, we are making everything to port as much as we can, in the > shortest time! > // I hope ATI DRI support will be in OS 10.02... But it's too long to come out... :) > > 2) insufficient of codecs; > > Solved! Look my previuos notes. //Partly solved... > > > 3) insufficient of 3-rd party software support... > > Try to include the contrib repository as well. There are tons of other > SW to install there. > And if Oracle is your problem, in no more than two weeks we are > publishing our notes about it. I'm happy to hear it. -- Best regards, Alexander Pyhalov, system administrator of Computer Center of South Federal University ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Need Help in python installation related problems
rammohan wrote: Hi , I am getting some python installation related problems on the Solaris Server11. I am using Python 2.5.2.Can anyone tell me what what went wrong?? Following is the Trace of the Error that we are getting [j...@fhcy8waa /download/Conector/MySQL-python-1.2.2]$ python setup.py install Traceback (most recent call last): File "setup.py", line 5, in import ez_setup; ez_setup.use_setuptools() File "/download/Conector/MySQL-python-1.2.2/ez_setup.py", line 83, in use_setuptools egg = download_setuptools(version, download_base, to_dir, download_delay) File "/download/Conector/MySQL-python-1.2.2/ez_setup.py", line 111, in download_setuptools import urllib2, shutil File "/usr/local/lib/python2.5/urllib2.py", line 91, in import hashlib File "/usr/local/lib/python2.5/hashlib.py", line 133, in md5 = __get_builtin_constructor('md5') File "/usr/local/lib/python2.5/hashlib.py", line 60, in __get_builtin_constructor import _md5 ImportError: No module named _md5 what is the root cause for this error.anyone please help me in this issue. Look in your python path and see if there is a _md5 module there. If not, why? Is your python path correct? Jean Regards Rammohan ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
[osol-discuss] xbmc on opensolaris?
I was wondering if anyone has been able to get xbmc working under opensolaris. I recently installed opensolaris on my desktop and i was impressed with how easy it was. I have used ZFS on freebsd so i figured i should check out opensolaris. If it is able to be compiled, i'd love to switch my htpc's to opensolaris. I did a google search and didn't see much info out there regarding xbmc on opensolaris. I hope this is the right forum, i looked through the list and didn't really see a multimedia forum...if it isn't the right one i'm very sorry. Thanks. -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] regretting for OS... (was ATI Radeon 1650 DRI)
> I've installed these packages. WMA is not played > (Totem says: "ASF plugin missed"). I'll try mplayer > with gcc4... Mplayer plays WMA fine... (After some tricks it compiled...) However, it's not my favorite player :) -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] regretting for OS... (was ATI Radeon 1650 DRI)
Alexander wrote: I've installed these packages. WMA is not played (Totem says: "ASF plugin missed"). I'll try mplayer with gcc4... Mplayer plays WMA fine... (After some tricks it compiled...) However, it's not my favorite player :) Alternatively, you can obtain legal versions of codecs for playback of WMA and other proprietary-encoded content via Codeina or www.fluendo.com. That in turn will enable playback using Totem and other applications. Cheers, -- Shawn Walker ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] regretting for OS... (was ATI Radeon 1650 DRI)
Alexander wrote: Alternatively, you can obtain legal versions of codecs for playback of WMA and other proprietary-encoded content via Codeina or www.fluendo.com. That in turn will enable playback using Totem and other applications. I understand. But I principally don't want to buy something which may be gotten free. In future, if I have time, maybe I'll continue experiments with gstreamer-plugins-ugly on OpenSolaris... It's interesting, that normal Linux distros have it in repositories. Why can't OpenSolaris have it? (rhetorical question) Because most Linux distributions aren't produced and hosted by a multi-national corporation bound by US law or because they've ignored the legal risks. Sun is also responsible to its shareholders, which wouldn't take kindly to exposing them to legal risks such as that. Cheers, -- Shawn Walker ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] regretting for OS... (was ATI Radeon 1650 DRI)
> Alternatively, you can obtain legal versions of > codecs for playback of > WMA and other proprietary-encoded content via Codeina > or www.fluendo.com. > > That in turn will enable playback using Totem and > other applications. I understand. But I principally don't want to buy something which may be gotten free. In future, if I have time, maybe I'll continue experiments with gstreamer-plugins-ugly on OpenSolaris... It's interesting, that normal Linux distros have it in repositories. Why can't OpenSolaris have it? (rhetorical question) -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] regretting for OS... (was ATI Radeon 1650 DRI)
Hi Alexander, I think you have already the most of things fixed, but let me comment this: Alexander píše v st 08. 07. 2009 v 05:27 -0700: > Thank you all for replies... > > Nothing personal, but let's review my expreience with OpenSolaris as desktop > system. > > 1) There were no support for extended partitions in OSOL 2009.06. It's a big > disadvantage, cause I have a lot of data on NTFS-formatted logical drive on > extended partition. No matter, I've said, there will be snv build 119 and > everything will be ok. That is truth and it took several years to do it correctly. Our (OpenSolaris community) fault we were not investing more resources to it. But we reached the point, finally. > 2) There are not enough gstreamer plugins (all suggestions are to BUY > fluendo codecs). Why should I do it, if there is gstreamer-plugins-ugly? I > can compile it... Yes, but after compilation totem dies trying to play WMA > files To fix this we need one thing from you - how does it die? Can you distribute some short WMA file with which I can reproduce it, so I can try to root cause it and fix it? Or give me core file of dying totem? And yes, we must care about patents. Some members of OpenSolaris community would be heavilly impacted otherwise. > But I still can try to compile mplayer. Yes, but it fails to compile with > strange errors about asm files... Do you mean the latest snapshot? Because the released version 1.0rc2 is (with you widely known patches) working well. > 3) I'd like to use MY graphic card, I've already bought it for about 70-100$ > and it is not a small amount money for me... Maybe I should wait for > OpenSolaris 10.02 of course You can ask the company which sold that graphic card to you for support. It is task for company, we can only volunteer if we have enough datasheets and volunteers to do it. Will you participate on development of that driver? > 4) It's said on winehq site that Wine support with sound is available > starting from snv_116, but 09.06 is snv_111b-based... When I'm trying to > update to snv_117, ips tries to download approximately 330 Mb... Not very > good. Why not very good? Just so many data were changed between build 111b and 117. Isn't it cool there is so huge progress? > But I need to update to snv_119 to see my partition, and it's not ready. Yes and no. It depends on your knowledge. It is not available yet for simple "click'n'click" but you can have such support immediately if you know how to download/compile/apply. You are asking for something what is in main repository for few days only. > And there were strange issues with transfering files (some network timeouts, > happening only with pkg.opensolaris.org)... > Did you report it on correct place (like indiana-discuss@), please? > And last... It is possible to run Oracle 10g R2 on Solaris/x64. It could work > on OpenSolaris with some tricks... But there is Oracle 11g already. And it is > supported on Linux without so many hacks. Do you know that OpenSolaris community is not developing Oracle software? Why are you asking here and not on Oracle support? > > So, at the end we have the following disadvantages of running OpenSolaris as > desktop system > 1) insufficient of drivers; Not on my 4 different desktop x86 systems (2 desktops, 2 laptops). I must be lucky man. > 2) insufficient of codecs; Not for me. > 3) insufficient of 3-rd party software support... > Yes, some 3rd parties are not supporting OpenSolaris. And there are 3rd parties not supporting other operating systems. What a surprise. Ask those parties, volunteer there. OpenSolaris community is not good place for such ranting. > No, seriously. I really like OpenSolaris (I support two SR servers, running > on it). > Zones, ZFS, DTrace are perfect tools for server systems. > > But in my mind for desktop OpenSolaris is not enough. Everything is going to > work (if you pay money or wait for next releases or work for at least several > days on this problem...). Maybe when OSOL 2010.02 comes out, I'll give it a > chance... But now as a desktop OS Ubuntu rocks... It just works. Without any > tambourine dances. > It can "rocks" for you. Not for me. As 10+ years-Debian user I tried Ubuntu several times (and I needed to use that ATi binary driver, OMG). No, thanks. One thing you should learn if you want to participate in good communities - complaining is important part of the contribution. But without enough data and/or complaining on proper places and/or offering help, it is only ranting if no good effect for you nor the community. Best regards, Milan ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] [ksh93-integration-discuss] [on-discuss] pkghistory vs. moving { comm, logname, mkfifo, paste, uniq }from "SUNWesu" to "SUNWcsu" ... / was: Re:[osol-code]Requestingpreliminarycodere
On 7/7/09, Henk Langeveld wrote: > Roland Mainz wrote: > > > [1]=Actually... what is the current stock ticker symbol of AT&T right now > ? > > > > That'd be a bit confusing. Even though AT&T was acquired some years back, > it was a kind of reverse takeover. > > Anyhow, AT&T's stock ticker is still the same: "T" (They've been around > for some time). > > And I still appreciate what you've accomplished so far, Roland. Me, too. 50 more brilliant people at Sun like him and Sun would swallow Oracle, not Oracle swallowing Sun. Josh ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
[osol-discuss] os.org site issues
We are having some database issues with the site which have caused intermittent outages for the last hour. The site is back up and we are working to resolve some remaining issues with defect.os.org and repo.os.org. Derek -- Derek Cicero Program Manager Solaris Kernel Group, Software Division ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
[osol-discuss] more virt. box/opensolaris issues
After fixing my desktop resize and mouse auto-capture issues with VBox 3.0 and OpenSolaris snv_117 as guest on a OS X 10.5.7 host I am now seeing these issues: 1. I don't see highlighting when I click and drag the mouse over text. 2. I don't see window outlines when dragging a window with the mouse. Any ideas on how to fix? -- Will Fiveash Sun Microsystems Inc. http://opensolaris.org/os/project/kerberos/ Sent from mutt, a sweet ASCII MUA ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
[osol-discuss] new to opensolaris, trying to understand the directory structure better
about 2-3 years ago i gave up windows for Ubuntu. I learned a lot but after awhile decided it was time to move on, after a few other linux distros i decided to try FreeBSD. I love FreeBSD for my servers but it's not that great for the desktop. Because of that, i decided to give opensolaris a try. So far i love it, it's amazingly easy to use, and it didn't take long to learn most of the package management stuff. I've been scouring google for information, and one thing i LOVED about FreeBSD is the handbook...it's amazing, is there anything like that for opensolaris? I'd like to understand the inner workings of the system better, and most importantly, the directory structure. It seems theres a ton of places where software is installed...i get what /bin and /usr/bin is all about, and i understand the idea of /opt but it seems like things are way more separated in opensolaris. This isn't a BAD thing, i'd just like to understand HOW it works and what it means. Thanks -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] new to opensolaris, trying to understand the directory structure better
Thomas Burgess wrote: about 2-3 years ago i gave up windows for Ubuntu. I learned a lot but after awhile decided it was time to move on, after a few other linux distros i decided to try FreeBSD. I love FreeBSD for my servers but it's not that great for the desktop. Because of that, i decided to give opensolaris a try. So far i love it, it's amazingly easy to use, and it didn't take long to learn most of the package management stuff. I've been scouring google for information, and one thing i LOVED about FreeBSD is the handbook...it's amazing, is there anything like that for opensolaris? I'd like to understand the inner workings of the system better, and most importantly, the directory structure. It seems theres a ton of places where software is installed...i get what /bin and /usr/bin is all about, and i understand the idea of /opt but it seems like things are way more separated in opensolaris. This isn't a BAD thing, i'd just like to understand HOW it works and what it means. Yes. See "man filesystem" for part of the information, although it is slowly changing and the man page will need updating from what I can tell. docs.sun.com is a great place to start for the rest. You'll also find info here: http://www.opensolaris.com/learn/ Cheers, -- Shawn Walker ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Need Help in python installation related problems
It seems that you build your own python 2.5 you need to add md5 extension also. BTW: you can try python2.6 instead, it is already in b117. Hi , I am getting some python installation related problems on the Solaris Server11. I am using Python 2.5.2.Can anyone tell me what what went wrong?? Following is the Trace of the Error that we are getting [j...@fhcy8waa /download/Conector/MySQL-python-1.2.2]$ python setup.py install Traceback (most recent call last): File "setup.py", line 5, in import ez_setup; ez_setup.use_setuptools() File "/download/Conector/MySQL-python-1.2.2/ez_setup.py", line 83, in use_setuptools egg = download_setuptools(version, download_base, to_dir, download_delay) File "/download/Conector/MySQL-python-1.2.2/ez_setup.py", line 111, in download_setuptools import urllib2, shutil File "/usr/local/lib/python2.5/urllib2.py", line 91, in import hashlib File "/usr/local/lib/python2.5/hashlib.py", line 133, in md5 = __get_builtin_constructor('md5') File "/usr/local/lib/python2.5/hashlib.py", line 60, in __get_builtin_constructor import _md5 ImportError: No module named _md5 what is the root cause for this error.anyone please help me in this issue. Regards Rammohan ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] new to opensolaris, trying to understand the directory structure better
One book that you may be interested. "OpenSolaris Bible" http://www.amazon.com/OpenSolaris-Bible-Wiley-Nicholas-Solter/dp/0470385480 Thomas Burgess : about 2-3 years ago i gave up windows for Ubuntu. I learned a lot but after awhile decided it was time to move on, after a few other linux distros i decided to try FreeBSD. I love FreeBSD for my servers but it's not that great for the desktop. Because of that, i decided to give opensolaris a try. So far i love it, it's amazingly easy to use, and it didn't take long to learn most of the package management stuff. I've been scouring google for information, and one thing i LOVED about FreeBSD is the handbook...it's amazing, is there anything like that for opensolaris? I'd like to understand the inner workings of the system better, and most importantly, the directory structure. It seems theres a ton of places where software is installed...i get what /bin and /usr/bin is all about, and i understand the idea of /opt but it seems like things are way more separated in opensolaris. This isn't a BAD thing, i'd just like to understand HOW it works and what it means. Thanks ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Spell checking for Emacs?
Well, I've had to sort this out on my own. It turns out that it's relatively easy to get spell checking working under Emacs with aspell. That's what the two Linux distros I have, OpenSUSE and Fedora, use for Emacs. Since they both come with Hunspell, I guess the packagers of those distros couldn't get Hunspell working under Emacs any better than I could. (It does compile under OpenSolaris without any problems, and works from the command line. The problem is that it doesn't work with the Emacs ispell mode.) GNU aspell didn't compile for me with ncurses, so I used "./configure --disable-curses". You don't need ncurses to be enabled in aspell anyway, if you're only going to use it in Emacs. -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] os.org site issues
Why doesn't SUN post something - or better yet - fix the problem, the next time the repository isn't responding and nobody can install zones for over 2 days on OpenSolaris? -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] os.org site issues
Gary Bainbridge wrote: Why doesn't SUN post something - or better yet - fix the problem, the next time the repository isn't responding and nobody can install zones for over 2 days on OpenSolaris? While I appreciate that you are frustrated, let's not exaggerate the issues. It was possible to perform installs and/or updates though there were significant connectivity issues at times preventing that for many users. Please also note that this past weekend was a national holiday in the US. In the future, there will be additional mirroring options for those that want to have their own complete, local repository containing the 2009.06 release. Cheers, -- Shawn Walker ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
[osol-discuss] VirtualBox 3.0
With VirtualBox 2.2.2 and 2.2.4 in a non-global zone I am unable to use FreeBSD as a guest, although FreeBSD works with VirtualBox 2.2.0. So can SUN verify that FreeBSD works as a guest in VirtualBox 3.0 in a non-global zone? Also, is OpenBSD EVER going to work in VirtualBox? If not, then delist it from the list of supported operating systems. It would be nice to get supposedly "supported" operating systems like OpenBSD to work in a VirtualBox release rather than charging off into the sunset and adding new features when the old one doesn't work right to being with. That is like adding a new valve mechanism but not improving the cam timing. -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] VirtualBox 3.0
Gary Bainbridge wrote: With VirtualBox 2.2.2 and 2.2.4 in a non-global zone I am unable to use FreeBSD as a guest, although FreeBSD works with VirtualBox 2.2.0. So can SUN verify that FreeBSD works as a guest in VirtualBox 3.0 in a non-global zone? Also, is OpenBSD EVER going to work in VirtualBox? If not, then delist it from the list of supported operating systems. It would be nice to get supposedly "supported" operating systems like OpenBSD to work in a VirtualBox release rather than charging off into the sunset and adding new features when the old one doesn't work right to being with. That is like adding a new valve mechanism but not improving the cam timing. Hi, you might want to post about VirtualBox on the virtualbox forums here: http://forums.virtualbox.org/ This mailing list is for the discussion of OpenSolaris. Cheers, -- Shawn Walker ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Issue with Opensolaris Zone Installation?
I have Internet Connectivity Firewalled for Unix/ Linux Machine while on Windows Machine on the same Hardware works with Internet. Can't I download package manually and carry the Zone Installation. -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Issue with Opensolaris Zone Installation?
Ajeet wrote: I have Internet Connectivity Firewalled for Unix/ Linux Machine while on Windows Machine on the same Hardware works with Internet. Can't I download package manually and carry the Zone Installation. At this time, off-line package functionality is not available. Cheers, -- Shawn Walker ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] VirtualBox 3.0
Thanks, but I have already opened a bug ticket (4226) with virtualbox.org and there was only one response - asking if I followed the documentation - without regard to reading that 2.2.0 works but not later releases. I thought since that bug and the OpenBSD full disk and seg faults aren't dealt with on virtualbox.org, then I would post here with the thought that since SUN owns virtualbox then possibly it would get routed to engineers there and possibly have resolutions to existing problems. -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] VirtualBox 3.0
Gary Bainbridge wrote: Thanks, but I have already opened a bug ticket (4226) with virtualbox.org and there was only one response - asking if I followed the documentation - without regard to reading that 2.2.0 works but not later releases. I thought since that bug and the OpenBSD full disk and seg faults aren't dealt with on virtualbox.org, then I would post here with the thought that since SUN owns virtualbox then possibly it would get routed to engineers there and possibly have resolutions to existing problems. The best place to get the attention of the right VirtualBox people is on the virtualbox forums or bug tracker. Posting to unrelated lists and/or forums is unlikely to hasten resolution. Cheers, -- Shawn Walker ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Issue with Opensolaris Zone Installation?
i need help regarding OpenSolaris Since I am newbie for the same.I had Windows Machine setup on the same hardware earlier and internet worked. But when I replaced it with OpenSolaris, though I can ping google successfully I cant ping for pkg.opensolaris.com. How can I reach out this website. [code] r...@opensolaris:/etc# ping google.com google.com is alive r...@opensolaris:/etc# [/code] [code]r...@opensolaris:/etc# traceroute 72.5.123.21 traceroute to 72.5.123.21 (72.5.123.21), 30 hops max, 40 byte packets 1 10.14.0.2 (10.14.0.2) 2302.982 ms 231.819 ms 5.662 ms 2 * * * 3 * * * 4 * * * 5 * * * 6 * * * 7 * * * 8 * * * 9 * * * 10 * * * 11 * * * 12 * * * 13 * * * 14 * * * 15 * * * 16 * * * 17 * * * 18 * * * 19 * * * 20 * * * 21 * * * 22 * * * 23 * * * 24 * * * 25 * * * 26 * * * 27 * * * [/code] I tried entering for: [code]r...@opensolaris:/etc# echo "72.5.123.21 pkg.opensolaris.org" >> /etc/hosts [/code] But still: [code]r...@opensolaris:/etc# ping 72.5.123.21 no answer from 72.5.123.21 r...@opensolaris:/etc# [/code] Pls Suggest me why its not working though google is working on the same. -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] os.org site issues
The issues involving repo and defect have been resolved. Sorry for any inconvenience. Derek Derek Cicero wrote: We are having some database issues with the site which have caused intermittent outages for the last hour. The site is back up and we are working to resolve some remaining issues with defect.os.org and repo.os.org. Derek -- Derek Cicero Program Manager Solaris Kernel Group, Software Division ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] regretting for OS... (was ATI Radeon 1650 DRI)
> Hi Alexander, > > I think you have already the most of things fixed, The only thing I've fixed is mplayer > > 2) There are not enough gstreamer plugins (all > suggestions are to BUY fluendo codecs). Why should I > do it, if there is gstreamer-plugins-ugly? I can > compile it... Yes, but after compilation totem dies > trying to play WMA files > > To fix this we need one thing from you - how does it > die? Can you > distribute some short WMA file with which I can > reproduce it, so I can > try to root cause it and fix it? Or give me core file > of dying totem? Ok, when I have some more free time, maybe I'll recompile totem with debugging symbols and give feedback. gdb says "Cannot access memory at address 0xf6f64000" > > But I still can try to compile mplayer. Yes, but > it fails to compile with strange errors about asm > files... > > Do you mean the latest snapshot? Because the released > version 1.0rc2 is > (with you widely known patches) working well. Yes, I've already compiled it (svn version). I had to to disable gcc optimization some times and to patch mlpdsp.c. > > 3) I'd like to use MY graphic card, I've already > bought it for about 70-100$ and it is not a small > amount money for me... Maybe I should wait for > OpenSolaris 10.02 of course > > You can ask the company which sold that graphic card > to you for support. Not funny. And I don't want to change my card, I like it... Why does such strange advices appear? > It is task for company, we can only volunteer if we > have enough > datasheets and volunteers to do it. Will you > participate on development > of that driver? 1) I'm admin, not a developer... 2) I haven't enough time 3) Is it a good practice "we don't have it in OS, but you may write it..."? :) > > 4) It's said on winehq site that Wine support with > sound is available starting from snv_116, but 09.06 > is snv_111b-based... When I'm trying to update to > snv_117, ips tries to download approximately 330 > Mb... Not very good. > > Why not very good? Just so many data were changed > between build 111b and > 117. Isn't it cool there is so huge progress? It's cool if traffic is free... > > But I need to update to snv_119 to see my > partition, and it's not ready. > > Yes and no. It depends on your knowledge. It is not > available yet for > simple "click'n'click" but you can have such support > immediately if you > know how to download/compile/apply. You are asking > for something what is > in main repository for few days only. > > > And there were strange issues with transfering > files (some network timeouts, happening only with > pkg.opensolaris.org)... > > > > Did you report it on correct place (like > indiana-discuss@), please? Yes :) > > And last... It is possible to run Oracle 10g R2 on > Solaris/x64. It could work on OpenSolaris with some > tricks... But there is Oracle 11g already. And it is > supported on Linux without so many hacks. > > Do you know that OpenSolaris community is not > developing Oracle > software? Why are you asking here and not on Oracle > support? I don't complain, I'm only explaining all issues which I had with OpenSolaris. I don't want to have a constructor (like RH 7.1). I want to have a normal system which just works without any magic actions and do what I need. And if it's a constructor, it should be a good constructor (compare ports collection and OpenSolaris specs set...) cd /usr/ports/multimedia/gstreamer-plugins-ugly/ && make && make install -- 3 steps, 15 minutes And I'm trying to enable WMA playback for a 2 or 3 days... FreeBSD, Ubuntu Linux are such systems (Yes, FreeBSD doesn't have Oracle support, but XE works on it in some way. It's not a perfect desktop (commercial soft is a problem), but it looks like a complete system...) I've thought about FreeBSD->OpenSolaris migration at work, but now I see , that this OS is not ready yet for desktop... Ok. Let's stop flame and return to the constructive discussion... I'll try to compile totem from specs with enabled debug if I have free time... -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] regretting for OS... (was ATI Radeon 1650 DRI)
> Hello, Alexander!Just to make you droll a little > ;-) , see the attached jpg file. The tutorial is > coming very soon. Great news :) -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org