Re: [osol-discuss] [indiana-discuss] DRAFT: OpenSolaris Use Case Project Proposal

2009-08-15 Thread Masafumi Ohta

Hi Jim

very interesting projects! count me on 'OpenSolaris Distributions' because
I and our osug members now making some distros for OpenSolaris.

Regards,

-masafumi



On 09.8.15 2:07 AM, Jim Walker wrote:
This concept was discussed a few months ago on indiana-discuss as a 
beta test
project, after looking at this more closely I refocused it on Use 
Cases since
that is what we really are needing. There were several people 
interested in

being part of a project like this.

All input welcome.

Specifically, I'm looking for five OpenSolaris users that want to help
lead and contribute to this project. I won't be leading it, but will
help out as I can.

Cheers,
Jim

===

o Project: OpenSolaris Use Case Project

o Short Description:

The OpenSolaris Use Case Project collects, develops and validates 
OpenSolaris
operating system and application Use Cases and provides real world 
feedback to
development, documentation, testing and other OpenSolaris groups to 
help ensure

users get what they need from OpenSolaris distributions and applications.

o Project Description:

The primary focus of the OpenSolaris Use Case Project is to evaluate and
organize real world OpenSolaris user experiences into Use Cases, case 
studies
and best practices for the benefit of other OpenSolaris users, and to 
provide
feedback to OpenSolaris developers, technical writers, testers and 
others so they may produce better quality products and education 
materials that more
effectively meet user requirements. This project is run by users for 
users.


Project roles and activities are diverse and include users bringing 
specific
issues into the discussion, end users and consultants bringing 
expertise and

focus to areas they are most interested in, Use Case organization and
development experts, and project leaders who organize the overall project
and review processes.

Development, documentation, test teams and others can provide this 
project
materials they want user feedback on prior to release to help ensure 
the user

is getting what they need to be successful.

Example areas of interest can include:

* Core OpenSolaris Technologies

zfs, smf, security, and DTrace and common OpenSolaris commands and 
utilities


* OpenSolaris Installation and Packaging

pkg, beadm commands, pkgmgr GUI, Automated Installer and Distro 
Constructor


* OpenSolaris Desktop

OpenSolaris desktop, layout and appearance and standard desktop 
applications


* Virtualization

zones, crossbow, ldoms, xVM, VirtualBox, etc...

* OpenSolaris Distributions

distribution centric use cases for BeleniX, MilaX, Nexenta, SchilliX 
etc...


* OpenSolaris Applications

OpenOffice, contrib repo applications, Oracle, etc...

* Development Tools

SunStudio, netbeans, hg, svn, etc...

* Hardware Configurations

Various hardware types and storage configurations, etc...

* Combination Solutions

Unique End User solutions using multiple technologies

* Use Case Development

This area focuses on Use Case development itself, including how Use Cases
are written, Use Case tools and the review process. Both formal and 
informal Use

Case methods will be used.


o Sponsoring Communities:

(need community facilitators to confirm they are interested in
sponsoring this project)

Documentation Community
Installation and Packaging Community
Desktop Community
OS/Net (ON) Community
Software Porters Community
Distribution Community
Testing Community

o Project Members:

Need 5 or more initial members, they will become Core Contributors.

o Facilitator:

Need 1 facilitator.

o Project Needs:

Standard project website and SCM setup at:
http://www.opensolaris.org/os/project/usecase/

usecase-disc...@opensolaris.org email alias.

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Re: [osol-discuss] [indiana-discuss] DRAFT: OpenSolaris Use Case Project Proposal

2009-08-15 Thread Hernan Saltiel
Hi!
Count on me to contribute for the "Virtualization" chapter.
Best regards,

HeCSa.


On Sat, Aug 15, 2009 at 8:41 AM, Guruprasad  wrote:

> Hi,
>
> On 8/15/09, Che Kristo  wrote:
> > Hi Jim,
> >
> > I would like to help on this also...happy to work on desktop use cases.
> >
>
> I would like to help with Desktop use-cases too. Count me in.
>
> Regards,
> Guruprasad
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Re: [osol-discuss] Blastwave repository down?

2009-08-15 Thread Dennis Clarke

> Hello!  I have searched for a couple of days on how to add the Blastwave
> repository to the package manager, to no avail.  No matter which method I
> use, they all error out.  I've tried from the command line, I've tried
> adding it through the manager.  Any idea if it is still up?

It seemed to be working however .. even though I reset the process I still
can not connect :

# svcs -xv svc:/application/pkg/server
svc:/application/pkg/server:default (image packaging repository)
 State: online since Sun Aug 16 04:46:45 2009
   See: /var/svc/log/application-pkg-server:default.log
Impact: None.

really .. a browser should be able to see "something" :

Failed to Connect
Firefox can't establish a connection to the server at
blastwave.network.com:1.

Though the site seems valid, the browser was unable to establish a
connection.

I'll look into that.


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Re: [osol-discuss] Blastwave repository down?

2009-08-15 Thread Dennis Clarke

> Hello!  I have searched for a couple of days on how to add the Blastwave
> repository to the package manager, to no avail.  No matter which method I
> use, they all error out.  I've tried from the command line, I've tried
> adding it through the manager.  Any idea if it is still up?

I'll have a look.

Last time I looked, it was running fine.

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[osol-discuss] Blastwave repository down?

2009-08-15 Thread Darren Couch
Hello!  I have searched for a couple of days on how to add the Blastwave 
repository to the package manager, to no avail.  No matter which method I use, 
they all error out.  I've tried from the command line, I've tried adding it 
through the manager.  Any idea if it is still up?
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Re: [osol-discuss] ATI Radeon HD2400 PRO PCI-e

2009-08-15 Thread ken mays


--- On Sat, 8/15/09, Mutahir  wrote:

> From: Mutahir 
> Subject: [osol-discuss] ATI Radeon HD2400 PRO PCI-e
> To: opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
> Date: Saturday, August 15, 2009, 2:37 PM
> Hi All,
> 
> I am thinking to install Opensolaris on my desktop (Dell
> Dimension 5000) Pentium IV, 4GB Ram, 160GB SATA, I am using
> add-in graphics card (Ati radeon sapphire hd2400pro pci-e
> 256MB), the onboard (disabled) is GMA-950 (i think) 
> 
> Is this card supported in the opensolaris2009.06 as when I
> installed the distribution before this one
> opensolaris2008.11 i think, it will install fine but will
> fail to load the gui.
> 
> I will be grateful for any help on this and or how to
> install it once the system is booting.
> 
> Kind Regards


Hello,

You can usually have the xorg.conf file generated and then force your 
Xserver to run the radeon(hd) driver for 2D graphics. You can usually use the 
VESA driver to get you to the main screen overwise.

You can't get 3D HW acceleration yet on the newer ATI cards under Solaris, but 
if you need this then I suggest the Nvidia GeForce 8400 GS and higher cards for 
faster 2D/3D HW acceleration.

~ Ken Mays

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Re: [osol-discuss] OT: Re: Oracle 10g on OpenSolaris (Solaris 5.11)

2009-08-15 Thread Volker A. Brandt
> Be a man, and admit that you're wrong and fix the code such that
> our customers can use OpenSolaris as that's the only Solaris they
> can use in future.

While I wouldn't put it quite as harshly, I certainly agree.
Now if "everything" could be configured by deploying proper
IPS packages during installation, I would be equally happy.

What we need is a cookbook/blueprint/howto that walks us through
the various tasks like editing a file, adding a driver, adding and
configuring SMF services, etc.  Many tasks are already covered
in IPS, some aren't.

But maybe this discussion had better move to the caiman and packaging
lists...


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Re: [osol-discuss] ATI Radeon HD2400 PRO PCI-e

2009-08-15 Thread Mutahir
Hi blacknov,

thanks for your prompt response ; how would I enable it ? as when I install 
opensolaris with this card it just boots into text mode.

Also, do you know which is a good graphics card which is supported natively in 
Opensolaris and solaris 10 ? As I am thinking to buy a card for another desktop 
so might as well get which is supported.

Thanks
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Re: [osol-discuss] ATI Radeon HD2400 PRO PCI-e

2009-08-15 Thread Vladimir Novoseltsev
2D only and no acceleration at all. You might be better of with built-in card, 
Intel's card are well supported.
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Re: [osol-discuss] Open Solaris 0906 on an Ultra 10

2009-08-15 Thread Volker A. Brandt
> Is the required OBP version even available for a machine as old as an
> Ultra 10?

No, it isn't.  The first "low end obsolete" Sparc box with the OBP
is the Blade100/Blade150.

>  That machine is effectively obsolete and unsupported from
> the OpenSolaris distro point of view.   Even if it has enough memory to
> run (it's possible to put 512mb into an Ultra 10, but I've seen few that
> actually were equipped that way)

It's possible to put in 1024MB.  All U10s that are still alive at this
time will have 512MB in them because used 128MB DIMMs are very cheap.

> it won't have any graphics drivers
> provided by Sun, so you'll have to try to get the community-provided
> drivers working.

Or use it for some other non-graphical purpose, such as a cheap
repository server, or a compilation box, etc. etc.


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Re: [osol-discuss] Open Solaris 0906 on an Ultra 10

2009-08-15 Thread Volker A. Brandt
> Try installing SXCE instead of OpenSolaris and see if you can it to boot up
> into the text installer

This will work fine.  The graphical installer in SXCE will work fine, too.
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Re: [osol-discuss] Open Solaris 0906 on an Ultra 10

2009-08-15 Thread Anon Y Mous
Kerry- I know it's old hardware that's not supported, but try doing a 
regression test anyway ;-) Try installing SXCE instead of OpenSolaris and see 
if you can it to boot up into the text installer and install from there (try 
getting into a CDE desktop instead of GNOME after it's done installing). If the 
text installer doesn't work there, try Solaris 10 SPARC text install next, then 
Solaris 9 SPARC (Solaris 9 should work IMO). If you get real desperate try 
Solaris 8.

You might also want to try running Milax (a minimal opensolaris distro like d 
amn small linux) instead of the Sun's 2009.xx Indiana distro and see how it 
works (I think there was a SPARC version for Milax available):

 http://www.milax.org/

If you're really dead set on getting into the nitty-gritty details of running 
an open source based SPARC operating system on old Sun hardware, the guy you 
need to get in touch with is Martin Bochnig:

   http://opensolaris.org/viewProfile.jspa?id=1246

Martin is an expert at building customized opensolaris operating systems for 
SPARC straight from the source code. He had a MartUX live CD available for 
SPARC a while ago:

   http://opensolaris.org/jive/thread.jspa?threadID=7639&tstart=0

   http://www.martux.org/

and I think he also came out with another distro after that.

If eventually you get too frustrated with running Solaris on it and want to 
take a break and try something else for a while, I also recommend trying either 
NetBSD or OpenBSD:

 http://www.openbsd101.com/installation.html

I run OpenBSD on a lot of ancient SPARC machines and it runs like a champ. 
Great old "classic car" Sun hardware with a great classic BSD OS.
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Re: [osol-discuss] Open Solaris 0906 on an Ultra 10

2009-08-15 Thread Alan Coopersmith
Glenn Lagasse wrote:
> Hi Kerry,
> 
> * Kerry Cox (kerryj...@gmail.com) wrote:
>> Just picked up an Ultra 10 Sun Workstation Elite 3D from my company.
>> Wanting to install Open Solaris 0906 on it. I downloaded the latest
>> Sparc build, but it did not seem to want to take. Not sure how to
>> proceed.  I am not seeing Ultra 10 on the hardware compatibility list.
>> Does Open Solaris even install?
> 
> So, firstly there is no bootable Sparc media for 2009.06.  We (the
> install team) know this is a deficiency and we'll get around to
> addressing it eventually.  What you downloaded is the Automated
> Installer image for Sparc.
> 
> That out of the way, the only way to install Sparc machines at the
> present time with 2009.06 is to setup the Automated Installer on an X86
> machine.  Probably not worth the trouble for a single Ultra-10 but
> that's all there is.

Is the required OBP version even available for a machine as old as an
Ultra 10?That machine is effectively obsolete and unsupported from
the OpenSolaris distro point of view.   Even if it has enough memory to
run (it's possible to put 512mb into an Ultra 10, but I've seen few that
actually were equipped that way), it won't have any graphics drivers
provided by Sun, so you'll have to try to get the community-provided
drivers working.

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[osol-discuss] ATI Radeon HD2400 PRO PCI-e

2009-08-15 Thread Mutahir
Hi All,

I am thinking to install Opensolaris on my desktop (Dell Dimension 5000) 
Pentium IV, 4GB Ram, 160GB SATA, I am using add-in graphics card (Ati radeon 
sapphire hd2400pro pci-e 256MB), the onboard (disabled) is GMA-950 (i think) 

Is this card supported in the opensolaris2009.06 as when I installed the 
distribution before this one opensolaris2008.11 i think, it will install fine 
but will fail to load the gui.

I will be grateful for any help on this and or how to install it once the 
system is booting.

Kind Regards
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Re: [osol-discuss] Oracle 10g on OpenSolaris (Solaris 5.11)

2009-08-15 Thread Joerg Schilling
Alexander  wrote:

> Just my humble opinion. Why should community support two different sets of 
> quite similar tools. Maybe some things (e.g. ZFS ACL  support) should be 
> integrated into GNU tools?

Do you really believe that this will ever happen?

The GNU tools do not even support Linux specific features, why do you believe 
that they will ever start supporting Solaris specific features?

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Re: [osol-discuss] Oracle 10g on OpenSolaris (Solaris 5.11)

2009-08-15 Thread Alexander
> > -the default PATH now includes the gnu tools on top
> (please, please,
> > we need a switch in the installer for this, we
> cannot have a set of
> > tools that do not support zfs acls and zfs)
> 
> Agreed.
Just my humble opinion. Why should community support two different sets of 
quite similar tools. Maybe some things (e.g. ZFS ACL  support) should be 
integrated into GNU tools?
Another thing is IIIM... I only want  to have two language on typical system, 
and our terminal clients stick to have GSwitchit application (and XKB doesn't 
need a separate iiimd daemon for a session). Why can't gswitchit be a choice 
for JDS. It perfectly compiles on Solaris, but doing it by hand each time 
deploying new terminal server (especially now, when we should switch to 
OpenSolaris from SXCE) is quite unpleasant...
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Re: [osol-discuss] Performance Problems - how to kernel monitor

2009-08-15 Thread Edward Ned Harvey
Actually - I found something.

 

This solaris machine is a virtual machine, and I shutdown one of the other
virtual machines.  As soon as I did that, everything was awesome.  I am not
sure if there's simply too much load on the CPU, or if the other VM just
needs vmware tools installed, but I know it's related to the fact of
competing for resources against another VM.

 

 

 

From: opensolaris-discuss-boun...@opensolaris.org
[mailto:opensolaris-discuss-boun...@opensolaris.org] On Behalf Of Edward Ned
Harvey
Sent: Saturday, August 15, 2009 8:42 AM
To: opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Subject: [osol-discuss] Performance Problems - how to kernel monitor

 

I'm having terrible performance problems right now (trying to FTP a large
file from a solaris server, and only getting 8Mbit on 10/100 LAN)

 

This is my only clue so far:

[root ~]# top -Icb

last pid:  5510;  load avg:  7.23,  7.71,  5.30;  up 0+11:25:06
08:32:03

48 processes: 45 sleeping, 1 running, 1 zombie, 1 on cpu

CPU states:  0.0% idle,  1.6% user, 98.4% kernel,  0.0% iowait,  0.0% swap

Kernel: 108 ctxsw, 4 trap, 1455 intr, 272 syscall, 4 flt

Memory: 1024M phys mem, 49M free mem, 512M total swap, 510M free swap

 

   PID USERNAME LWP PRI NICE  SIZE   RES STATETIMECPU COMMAND

  1907 root   1  330 3392K 2248K run441:19 78.50%
/usr/sbin/in.ftpd -a

   852 noaccess  17  590  172M   96M sleep   14:23  9.32%
/usr/java/bin/java -server -Xmx128m -XX:+UseParallelGC
-XX:ParallelGCThreads=4

  5510 root   1  330 2816K 1512K cpu  0:01  8.72% top -Icb

  3221 root   1  590  164M   23M sleep3:10  0.64%
/usr/X11/bin/Xorg :0 -depth 24 -nolisten tcp -nobanner -auth
/var/dt/A:0-NvayBb

   670 root   1  590 3356K 1320K sleep   44:29  0.53%
/usr/lib/vmware-tools/sbin/amd64/vmware-guestd-binary --background
/var/run/vmw

  3259 root   1  590   19M   13M sleep2:13  0.42% dtgreet
-display :0

 7 root  15  590   13M 8584K sleep1:04  0.21%
/lib/svc/bin/svc.startd

   544 root   1  590 7452K 1712K sleep0:09  0.10%
/usr/lib/sendmail -bd -q15m -C /etc/mail/local.cf

   329 root   1  590 1420K  656K sleep0:01  0.03% /usr/lib/utmpd

   314 root   4  590 7972K 2792K sleep0:15  0.02%
/usr/lib/inet/inetd start

   633 root   1  590 2652K  564K sleep0:10  0.02%
/usr/sbin/vmware-memctld --background /var/run/vmware-memctld.pid

Notice:  in.ftpd is consuming nearly all the CPU, and the system is spending
98% in kernel time.  No iowait.

 

This is a simple IO request.  I don't think the system should be processor
bound.  I am curious why the system is spending all its time waiting for the
kernel in the processor.  I have no skills on dtrace.  Could anybody offer
me any advice on how to figure out what the system is doing . why it's
taking so long . etc?

 

The system has been in this state for the last 10 hours, and the progress
meter predicts another 10 hours, although my manual calculator says another
5 hours.

 

Thank you for any assistance.

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Re: [osol-discuss] Migrating from SXDE/SXCE to OpenSolaris

2009-08-15 Thread Chavdar Ivanov
> Since the EOL announcement, I've been thinking of how
> I should do the migration for my SOHO server.

I did just that yesterday on my office workstation-server machine. It has been 
running Nevada for some 18 months, up until snv_104 (when I screwed something 
with zones and damaged my LU database; knowing that I will eventually jump to 
OpenSolaris, I decided it was not worth the effort to repair).

>  This
> V20z box provides all services for the external and
> internal networks (file server, mail server, backup
> server, etc.).  

Apart from being my main workstation, it usually runs some 5-6 VirtualBox 
machines, iSCSI ComStar targets, CIFS and NFS server etc. In other words, it 
takes some pounding...


> It has been running OpenSolaris since
> snv_49 and I've been happily using Live Upgrade
> flawlessly over the years.  I'm currently up to
> snv_110.
> 
> I have the setup this way...
> 
> Two main drives,each having two identical partitions:
> a small ufs one for root and the rest in a zfs mirror
> pool holding the user home directories and /usr/local
> where all of the home-built programs reside (xjed,
> dirvish, most, qmail, mailfront, spanmdyke, web
> pages, etc.).

I have been on ZFS root since this became possible, was it around snv_90 or 
thereabouts, not so sure. I've got some 6 SATA disks in, but they are mostly 
different sizes (between 120 and 320 GB), so apart from the mirrored rpool, the 
rest is another three zpools (not bothered about redundancy or backups on this 
machine for now... until it breaks, that is!)

> 
> The second zfs pool consists of 5 external drives in
> raid-z.  This holds the backups for all networked
> machines.
> 
> My thought is that I want to migrate to OpenSolaris
> using a zfs root on the entire disk and minimize
> downtime.  My first thought is to do it this way:
> 
> * stop the mail and web services
> * do a "final" disaster backup to the raid-z pool
> * export the raid-z pool.
> * break the mirror (how?) and then export this pool.

zpool detach poolname device2detach

I didn't bother with this, just turned off the second disk with the key at this 
stage.

> * install OpenSolaris on one full drive (At this
> point there is no turning back)
> * attach the old mirrored drive back as a mirror
> (using the full disk)
> * import the other pool
> * copy all the appropriate files from the backup
> * configure and start the services.

I send/received the interesting ZFS from the old mirror to one of the data 
pools, so the contents of the old system disk was not important; in any case, I 
wanted to go through the configuration process again.

> 
> Anyone see any flaws or can suggest improvements to
> my approach?

Not really. I had a little problem - installed OpenSolaris on disk 0, disk 1 
still had the old pool on, and grub's findroot screwes - there are two pools 
named rpool... I had to break in the boot process and remove the findroot 
command. After that I was able to attach disk 1 to the rpool and resilver 
(still haven't out the bootblocks on the second disk, though - Monday).

> 
> Is there a reason why I should wait for the next
> OpenSolaris official release before starting this?

Not as far as I know it. I am using the snv_118 respin from GenUnix. Seems fine 
so far (well, modulo getting rid of fcoe service, but that is documented). 

I still will have to configure CIFS in our AD and enable the iSCSI bits before 
importing the data pools.

> 
> Thanks.
> Gary

Chavdar
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Re: [osol-discuss] Migrating from SXDE/SXCE to OpenSolaris

2009-08-15 Thread Mike Gerdts
On Sat, Aug 15, 2009 at 7:41 AM, Gary Gendel wrote:
> Since the EOL announcement, I've been thinking of how I should do
> the migration for my SOHO server.  This V20z box provides all
> services for the external and internal networks (file server, mail
> server, backup server, etc.).  It has been running OpenSolaris since
> snv_49 and I've been happily using Live Upgrade flawlessly over the
> years.  I'm currently up to snv_110.
>
> I have the setup this way...
>
> Two main drives,each having two identical partitions: a small ufs
> one for root and the rest in a zfs mirror pool holding the user home
> directories and /usr/local where all of the home-built programs
> reside (xjed, dirvish, most, qmail, mailfront, spanmdyke, web pages,
> etc.).
>
> The second zfs pool consists of 5 external drives in raid-z.  This
> holds the backups for all networked machines.
>
> My thought is that I want to migrate to OpenSolaris using a zfs root
> on the entire disk and minimize downtime.  My first thought is to do
> it this way:
>
> * stop the mail and web services
> * do a "final" disaster backup to the raid-z pool
> * export the raid-z pool.
> * break the mirror (how?) and then export this pool.
> * install OpenSolaris on one full drive (At this point there is no
>   turning back)
> * attach the old mirrored drive back as a mirror (using the full disk)
> * import the other pool
> * copy all the appropriate files from the backup
> * configure and start the services.
>
> Anyone see any flaws or can suggest improvements to my approach?

There is perhaps an improvement that allows you to not have to
immediately destroy the ufs installation or make too hasty of a
decision about overwriting your broken mirror.

I suspect that this can be done in a live-upgrade-ish way.  The trick
is getting the intial boot environment populated - which I have kinda
done.  In my case, I needed to install a zone with the ipkg brand.
However, a couple modifications to the procedure should allow this
transition in the global zone.

I quote from:
http://opensolaris.org/jive/thread.jspa?messageID=370967#370884

} Anyway, here was my first run through this effort.  Starting point is
} a SXCE 108 T5120 with SUWNCXall, zfs root

Whether you have zfs root right now or not doesn't matter a whole lot.

}
} 1.  Get pkg-gate from mercurial
}
} $ hg clone ssh://a...@hg.opensolaris.org/hg/pkg/gate
} destination directory: gate
} requesting all changes
} adding changesets
} adding manifests
} adding file changes
} added 1040 changesets with 13427 changes to 7444 files
} 4779 files updated, 0 files merged, 0 files removed, 0 files unresolved
}
} 2.  Build pkg
}
} $ export PATH=$PATH:/apps/studio12/SUNWspro/bin
} $ cd gate/src
} $ make
} $ make packages
}
} 3.  Install packages
}
} # cd gate/packages
} # pkgadd -d . all
}
} 4.  Fake global zone's notion of entire

[snip]

Now is where the paths likely diverge.  My thought is that you can now
create a boot environment in the pool that is mirrored across the same
drives as your UFS root.  Let's pretend that pool is called "local".

If you want the pool to be named rpool when all is done, just fix that
now.  I don't think that this matters a whole lot.  For sake of
consistency with anyone else that may be trying this starting with ZFS
root with a standard root pool name, the commands will assume this is
done.

(stop things that need to be stopped)
# zpool export local
# zpool import local rpool

Let's preserve your SXCE environment, by live upgrading from UFS to
ZFS root.  Details at on this type of move are at:
http://docs.sun.com/app/docs/doc/820-7013/migratingufsoverview?a=view

# lucreate -c sxce_ufs -n sxce_zfs -p rpool

Now activate that live upgrade boot environment and reboot.

# luactivate sxce_zfs
# init 6

In a couple minutes you should have SXCE running from ZFS root.  Now
comes the time to transition to OpenSolaris.

In an earlier step, you installed the current version of the ips
utilities into your SXCE installation.  Now we will use it to create
and populate a new boot environment.

# zfs create -o canmount=noauto rpool/ROOT/opensolaris
# zfs mount rpool/ROOT/opensolaris /mnt
# pkg image-create -f -F \
-p opensolaris.org=http://pkg.opensolaris.org/dev /mnt
# pkg -R /a install SUNWcsd
# pkg -R /a install SUNWcs
# pkg -R /a install slim_install
# pkg -R /a install entire
# pkg -R /a set-authority --reset-uuid --no-refresh opensolaris.org
# zfs umount rpool/ROOT/opensolaris

The bulk of the commands from above were gleened from "pkg history -l
| grep Command:" on an OpenSolaris installation performed with AI.

Next, you will need to make this thing bootable.  I don't have an x86
box running OpenSolaris handy at the moment, but the following should
do the trick:

# boootadm update-archive -R /a
# bootadm list-menu

Use the output of bootadm list-menu to help you find menu.lst.  Make
the appropriate updates to point to the new boot environment.  I think
this should be a matter of copy the entr

[osol-discuss] Performance Problems - how to kernel monitor

2009-08-15 Thread Edward Ned Harvey
I'm having terrible performance problems right now (trying to FTP a large
file from a solaris server, and only getting 8Mbit on 10/100 LAN)

 

This is my only clue so far:

[root ~]# top -Icb

last pid:  5510;  load avg:  7.23,  7.71,  5.30;  up 0+11:25:06
08:32:03

48 processes: 45 sleeping, 1 running, 1 zombie, 1 on cpu

CPU states:  0.0% idle,  1.6% user, 98.4% kernel,  0.0% iowait,  0.0% swap

Kernel: 108 ctxsw, 4 trap, 1455 intr, 272 syscall, 4 flt

Memory: 1024M phys mem, 49M free mem, 512M total swap, 510M free swap

 

   PID USERNAME LWP PRI NICE  SIZE   RES STATETIMECPU COMMAND

  1907 root   1  330 3392K 2248K run441:19 78.50%
/usr/sbin/in.ftpd -a

   852 noaccess  17  590  172M   96M sleep   14:23  9.32%
/usr/java/bin/java -server -Xmx128m -XX:+UseParallelGC
-XX:ParallelGCThreads=4

  5510 root   1  330 2816K 1512K cpu  0:01  8.72% top -Icb

  3221 root   1  590  164M   23M sleep3:10  0.64%
/usr/X11/bin/Xorg :0 -depth 24 -nolisten tcp -nobanner -auth
/var/dt/A:0-NvayBb

   670 root   1  590 3356K 1320K sleep   44:29  0.53%
/usr/lib/vmware-tools/sbin/amd64/vmware-guestd-binary --background
/var/run/vmw

  3259 root   1  590   19M   13M sleep2:13  0.42% dtgreet
-display :0

 7 root  15  590   13M 8584K sleep1:04  0.21%
/lib/svc/bin/svc.startd

   544 root   1  590 7452K 1712K sleep0:09  0.10%
/usr/lib/sendmail -bd -q15m -C /etc/mail/local.cf

   329 root   1  590 1420K  656K sleep0:01  0.03% /usr/lib/utmpd

   314 root   4  590 7972K 2792K sleep0:15  0.02%
/usr/lib/inet/inetd start

   633 root   1  590 2652K  564K sleep0:10  0.02%
/usr/sbin/vmware-memctld --background /var/run/vmware-memctld.pid

Notice:  in.ftpd is consuming nearly all the CPU, and the system is spending
98% in kernel time.  No iowait.

 

This is a simple IO request.  I don't think the system should be processor
bound.  I am curious why the system is spending all its time waiting for the
kernel in the processor.  I have no skills on dtrace.  Could anybody offer
me any advice on how to figure out what the system is doing . why it's
taking so long . etc?

 

The system has been in this state for the last 10 hours, and the progress
meter predicts another 10 hours, although my manual calculator says another
5 hours.

 

Thank you for any assistance.

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[osol-discuss] Migrating from SXDE/SXCE to OpenSolaris

2009-08-15 Thread Gary Gendel
Since the EOL announcement, I've been thinking of how I should do the migration 
for my SOHO server.  This V20z box provides all services for the external and 
internal networks (file server, mail server, backup server, etc.).  It has been 
running OpenSolaris since snv_49 and I've been happily using Live Upgrade 
flawlessly over the years.  I'm currently up to snv_110.

I have the setup this way...

Two main drives,each having two identical partitions: a small ufs one for root 
and the rest in a zfs mirror pool holding the user home directories and 
/usr/local where all of the home-built programs reside (xjed, dirvish, most, 
qmail, mailfront, spanmdyke, web pages, etc.).

The second zfs pool consists of 5 external drives in raid-z.  This holds the 
backups for all networked machines.

My thought is that I want to migrate to OpenSolaris using a zfs root on the 
entire disk and minimize downtime.  My first thought is to do it this way:

* stop the mail and web services
* do a "final" disaster backup to the raid-z pool
* export the raid-z pool.
* break the mirror (how?) and then export this pool.
* install OpenSolaris on one full drive (At this point there is no turning back)
* attach the old mirrored drive back as a mirror (using the full disk)
* import the other pool
* copy all the appropriate files from the backup
* configure and start the services.

Anyone see any flaws or can suggest improvements to my approach?

Is there a reason why I should wait for the next OpenSolaris official release 
before starting this?

Thanks.
Gary
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Re: [osol-discuss] OT: Re: Oracle 10g on OpenSolaris (Solaris 5.11)

2009-08-15 Thread Casper . Dik


>That's your opinion of course, I and others pretty strongly disagree.
>There are things that should absolutely be asked at install time.
>However, install time is not the proper place to ask every possible
>question someone might want to configure.  There's a balance to be
>struck.  Of course there are differences between an interactive install
>and a 'hands-off' install.  I think I've provided an answer for how to
>configure 'anything' post-install during an automated installation.

Right, have you actually read what other people have posted?

I've see *no* support for your position except one or two people
in your team; yet, whenever I suggest that you're wrong I get a lot
positive feedback both in these lists and in private.

Be a man, and admit that you're wrong and fix the code such that
our customers can use OpenSolaris as that's the only Solaris they
can use in future.


Casper

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Re: [osol-discuss] [indiana-discuss] DRAFT: OpenSolaris Use Case Project Proposal

2009-08-15 Thread Guruprasad
Hi,

On 8/15/09, Che Kristo  wrote:
> Hi Jim,
>
> I would like to help on this also...happy to work on desktop use cases.
>

I would like to help with Desktop use-cases too. Count me in.

Regards,
Guruprasad
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Re: [osol-discuss] [indiana-discuss] DRAFT: OpenSolaris Use Case Project Proposal

2009-08-15 Thread Che Kristo
Hi Jim,

I would like to help on this also...happy to work on desktop use cases.

Thank you Ché Kristo

On Sat, Aug 15, 2009 at 3:07 AM, Jim Walker  wrote:

> This concept was discussed a few months ago on indiana-discuss as a beta
> test
> project, after looking at this more closely I refocused it on Use Cases
> since
> that is what we really are needing. There were several people interested in
> being part of a project like this.
>
> All input welcome.
>
> Specifically, I'm looking for five OpenSolaris users that want to help
> lead and contribute to this project. I won't be leading it, but will
> help out as I can.
>
> Cheers,
> Jim
>
> ===
>
> o Project: OpenSolaris Use Case Project
>
> o Short Description:
>
> The OpenSolaris Use Case Project collects, develops and validates
> OpenSolaris
> operating system and application Use Cases and provides real world feedback
> to
> development, documentation, testing and other OpenSolaris groups to help
> ensure
> users get what they need from OpenSolaris distributions and applications.
>
> o Project Description:
>
> The primary focus of the OpenSolaris Use Case Project is to evaluate and
> organize real world OpenSolaris user experiences into Use Cases, case
> studies
> and best practices for the benefit of other OpenSolaris users, and to
> provide
> feedback to OpenSolaris developers, technical writers, testers and others
> so they may produce better quality products and education materials that
> more
> effectively meet user requirements. This project is run by users for users.
>
> Project roles and activities are diverse and include users bringing
> specific
> issues into the discussion, end users and consultants bringing expertise
> and
> focus to areas they are most interested in, Use Case organization and
> development experts, and project leaders who organize the overall project
> and review processes.
>
> Development, documentation, test teams and others can provide this project
> materials they want user feedback on prior to release to help ensure the
> user
> is getting what they need to be successful.
>
> Example areas of interest can include:
>
> * Core OpenSolaris Technologies
>
> zfs, smf, security, and DTrace and common OpenSolaris commands and
> utilities
>
> * OpenSolaris Installation and Packaging
>
> pkg, beadm commands, pkgmgr GUI, Automated Installer and Distro Constructor
>
> * OpenSolaris Desktop
>
> OpenSolaris desktop, layout and appearance and standard desktop
> applications
>
> * Virtualization
>
> zones, crossbow, ldoms, xVM, VirtualBox, etc...
>
> * OpenSolaris Distributions
>
> distribution centric use cases for BeleniX, MilaX, Nexenta, SchilliX etc...
>
> * OpenSolaris Applications
>
> OpenOffice, contrib repo applications, Oracle, etc...
>
> * Development Tools
>
> SunStudio, netbeans, hg, svn, etc...
>
> * Hardware Configurations
>
> Various hardware types and storage configurations, etc...
>
> * Combination Solutions
>
> Unique End User solutions using multiple technologies
>
> * Use Case Development
>
> This area focuses on Use Case development itself, including how Use Cases
> are written, Use Case tools and the review process. Both formal and
> informal Use
> Case methods will be used.
>
>
> o Sponsoring Communities:
>
> (need community facilitators to confirm they are interested in
> sponsoring this project)
>
> Documentation Community
> Installation and Packaging Community
> Desktop Community
> OS/Net (ON) Community
> Software Porters Community
> Distribution Community
> Testing Community
>
> o Project Members:
>
> Need 5 or more initial members, they will become Core Contributors.
>
> o Facilitator:
>
> Need 1 facilitator.
>
> o Project Needs:
>
> Standard project website and SCM setup at:
> http://www.opensolaris.org/os/project/usecase/
>
> usecase-disc...@opensolaris.org email alias.
>
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Re: [osol-discuss] OT: Re: Oracle 10g on OpenSolaris (Solaris 5.11)

2009-08-15 Thread paul

Octave Orgeron schrieb:
[snipp]


Again.. more focus has to be put on Data Center deployments and
management than desktop usage. I would love to see OpenSolaris
compete with Windows or MacOS X on the desktop. But realistically,
not even Linux is making a dent.. so where is the return on making an
enterprise OS into a desktop OS? That's not to say putting effort
into the desktop doesn't make sense. Just that it shouldn't be the
deciding factor in important features like provisioning or
management.
I second this. Solaris as a desktop is illusionary. What am I supposed 
to do with it? Have you asked Adobe,Autodesk,Avid,$vendor to support 
Solaris? What is the timeframe?
There would be plenty of opportunities to create value for a server 
product.  Where is the Server part of OpenOffice à la sharepoint? A 
replacement for OS X Server might be interesting too...
Linux is a mess wrt standardized management/monitoring/ provisioning but 
as of now Solaris has made very little effort here. WBEM or 
VisualPanels? What the heck is it good for to have both?


cheers
 Paul


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- Original Message  From:
"casper@sun.com"
 To: Shawn Walker
 Cc:
opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org Sent:
Friday, August 14, 2009 3:13:10 AM Subject: Re: [osol-discuss] OT:
Re: Oracle 10g on OpenSolaris (Solaris 5.11)




The point is that they don't *need* or have to be in the installer.
 They're just as beneficial and useful at firstboot, in a Visual
Panel, or somewhere else.  There is no overwhelmingly great reason
to force them to be part of the install process.  Installation
should be about installation and the minimum amount of
configuration to get the system going.  Anything beyond that is a
pollution of the process IMO.



Our customers want an "hands-off" install; an install which can be 
customized to a point where the system reboots and nothing needs to 
be done.


"Visual panels" do not work when you need to install 100s of systems.


The fact that you are required to configure a system after it is
installed is a bug.  Any system which requires post-install
configuration is broken to a point that is not usable.

Casper

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