[osol-discuss] A market prospect thought

2009-09-05 Thread Peter Jones
This is an interesting shift to reducing the capital barriers for entry into 
the lower end hardware market through mass manufacturing techniques.The branded 
open source OS distributions like Opensolaris should welcome this opportunity 
for Commoditization of hardware to work with manufacturer's at minimal risk of 
entry to this market? .I certainly believe manufacturers like Asus will be 
looking to offer as many as three alternative distributions down loadable after 
purchase from their parent website in the forseeable future.Microsoft maybe 
getting a few sleepless nights in the future.
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Re: [osol-discuss] Nokia Booklet 3G

2009-09-05 Thread Joerg Schilling
Uros Nedic ur...@live.com wrote:

 market. Certainly Sony and other companies
 will continue to use Linux under GPLv2. Even
 Linus is not for that Linux make transition from
 GPLv2 to GPLv3. We could think that one of
 reasons is big sponsorship contracts of Linux
 Foundation with large hardware companies.

 =A0 If OpenSolaris make transition=2C it'd be *first*
 OS under GPLv3. Very soon we could expect that
 some company release same product as Sony
 PlayStation 3=2C for example=2C but now with software
 licensed under GPLv3. All GNU stack will instantly

GPLv3 is not a way to go.

Solaris needs to be able to combine OSS (CDDL) and other code.
This does not work with the GPLv3.

The GPLv3 gives even less openness than the GPLv2.

While the GPLv2 allows to link a GPL program against any libray of any license 
(because the GPLv2 is limited to the work that is published under GPLv2), 
the GPLv3 tries to aritificially introduce additional restrictions. These
restrictions that are written in a very vague way, so it is a legallity risk
for projects that use GPLv3.

Background: Since the second half of the 1990s, the FSF spreads incorrect 
claims about the compatibility of GPLv2 with other code. The FSF claims that
things are eforcable that are not even written in the GPLv2 text. The GPL
analysis from Lawrence Rosen (the lawyer of the OpenSource initiytive) 
in http://www.rosenlaw.com/Rosen_Ch06.pdf explains word by word, sentence by 
sentence which claims from the GPLv2 are not enforcable and thus void and which
if the claims of the FSF are not written in the GPL text. A lot of OSS software
can only exist because certain claim of the GPLv2 are not enforcable.

The GPLv3 is more restrictive than GPLv2 (and thus closer to what the FSF 
claims for the GPLv2) and it contains contains vague claims about what cannot 
be combined with GPLv3 code and thus causes a legal risk.

Another legal risk with the GPLv3 is that you may add exceptions that give your 
users more freedom but the GPLv3 allows downstream redistributors to remove 
these opening exceptions before redistributing the code.

I know of OSS projects that converted to GPLv3 and that had to go back to GPLv2 
because the users of the code could no longer use it because of legal problems 
that resulted from GPLv3.


Please note: this is a OpenSolaris discussion and no license discussion. A 
license discussion will not bring us anywhere.

Jörg

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[osol-discuss] snv122 ahci regression

2009-09-05 Thread Bruno Damour

Hello,
With my asus p5w dh deluxe, I used to have :
- 1 250G system disk with a solaris slice containing my zfs root
- 2 1Tb disks in a zpool mirror
- 2 320G disks using the ezbackup in raid1 mode, showing like 1 stat disk
- 1 500G disk using the jmicron controller

all sata II using ahci
It worked allright in snv121 but in snv122 i lost the 2 320G disks. I 
can see it if I change the bios to sata ide mode


I have to mention that the order of the disks changed as well (the 
jmicron is now showing as the first, which used to be the system disk


Bruno
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[osol-discuss] Featurerequest

2009-09-05 Thread Darko Hojnik
Hi

Can i submit here featurerequests?
On OpenSolaris 2009 i am missing some programs, they are

Moonlight Firefoxplugin
Wireshark Networksniffer
A Dialog to configure the Printersettings (Collors, Format) and to print a 
testsite in Gnome
A backport from the cadp160 driver
F-Spot to manage Picturelibarys
Banshee is on my wishlist too :)
a graphical tool to configure the Mixersettings for the Soundcard
and some graphical Tools to create Audio and Video Projects like Tovid, 
Hydrogen something like Mainactor and Ardour
Something like Tomboy for quickly notices

Thats currently that whats me almost hurts to migrate from Linux to OpenSolaris

kind regard Darko Hojnik
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[osol-discuss] OpenSolaris b122 and printing

2009-09-05 Thread Bengt Farre
After upgrading from b118 to b122 the network discvery failed again but now 
with function does not exist.

Executing start method (/lib/svc/method/svc-network-discovery start snmp). ]
/usr/bin/dbus-send --system --print-reply --dest=org.freedesktop.Hal 
--type=method_call /org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/network_attached 
org.freedesktop.Hal.Device.NetworkDiscovery.EnablePrinterScanningViaSNMP 
int32:60 string:public string:0.0.0.0
Error org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.UnknownMethod: Method 
EnablePrinterScanningViaSNMP with signature iss on interface 
org.freedesktop.Hal.Device.NetworkDiscovery doesn't exist
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Re: [osol-discuss] snv122 ahci regression

2009-09-05 Thread John Martin

Bruno Damour wrote:

Hello,
With my asus p5w dh deluxe, I used to have :
- 1 250G system disk with a solaris slice containing my zfs root
- 2 1Tb disks in a zpool mirror
- 2 320G disks using the ezbackup in raid1 mode, showing like 1 stat disk
- 1 500G disk using the jmicron controller

all sata II using ahci
It worked allright in snv121 but in snv122 i lost the 2 320G disks. I 
can see it if I change the bios to sata ide mode


I have to mention that the order of the disks changed as well (the 
jmicron is now showing as the first, which used to be the system disk

Are both 320GB disks connected to the Silicon Image 4723 ports?
Can you post the contents of /var/adm/messages when this is configured
as AHCI and the hardware raid disk doesn't appear?

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Re: [osol-discuss] Featurerequest

2009-09-05 Thread Che Kristo
Wireshark is in the repository already for the rest search the net to see if
someone has already done the work. If you can't find anything then you can
file an enhancement/RFE at http://defect.opensolaris.org/bz/

Hope that helps,

Ché

On Sun, Sep 6, 2009 at 12:41 AM, Darko Hojnik hoj...@virtualizing.orgwrote:

 Hi

 Can i submit here featurerequests?
 On OpenSolaris 2009 i am missing some programs, they are

 Moonlight Firefoxplugin
 Wireshark Networksniffer
 A Dialog to configure the Printersettings (Collors, Format) and to
 print a testsite in Gnome
 A backport from the cadp160 driver
 F-Spot to manage Picturelibarys
 Banshee is on my wishlist too :)
 a graphical tool to configure the Mixersettings for the Soundcard
 and some graphical Tools to create Audio and Video Projects like Tovid,
 Hydrogen something like Mainactor and Ardour
 Something like Tomboy for quickly notices

 Thats currently that whats me almost hurts to migrate from Linux to
 OpenSolaris

 kind regard Darko Hojnik
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Re: [osol-discuss] Nokia Booklet 3G

2009-09-05 Thread Peter Jones
Will opensolaris support hotplugging of SIMS and telco convergence?
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Re: [osol-discuss] OpenSolaris b122 and printing

2009-09-05 Thread Paul Gress

Bengt Farre wrote:

After upgrading from b118 to b122 the network discvery failed again but now 
with function does not exist.

Executing start method (/lib/svc/method/svc-network-discovery start snmp). ]
/usr/bin/dbus-send --system --print-reply --dest=org.freedesktop.Hal 
--type=method_call /org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/network_attached 
org.freedesktop.Hal.Device.NetworkDiscovery.EnablePrinterScanningViaSNMP 
int32:60 string:public string:0.0.0.0
Error org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.UnknownMethod: Method EnablePrinterScanningViaSNMP with 
signature iss on interface org.freedesktop.Hal.Device.NetworkDiscovery doesn't exist
  


I get this exact error also, but for me it was from b117 to b121.  
Hopefully someone can find a solution.


Paul
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Re: [osol-discuss] Featurerequest

2009-09-05 Thread Norm Jacobs

Darko Hojnik wrote:

Hi

Can i submit here featurerequests?

  



Wireshark Networksniffer
  

Wireshark integrated in build 114


A Dialog to configure the Printersettings (Collors, Format) and to print a 
testsite in Gnome
  
If you switch from LP to CUPS as your active print service, you will get 
the same print dialogs and management tool that you see on most Linux 
distribtutions.  LP doesn't provide as complete desktop integration as CUPS.

  # pkg install SUNWcups SUNWcups-manager SUNWpycups
  # print-service -s cups

   -Norm


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Re: [osol-discuss] pkgmanager shows no ability to install or uninstall pkgs

2009-09-05 Thread Harry Putnam
Shawn Walker swal...@opensolaris.org writes:

 Harry Putnam wrote:
 Setup:
 OpenSolaris 2009.06 snv_111b X86
 [...]
 Assembled 07 May 2009

 When I start the pkg manager is takes a moment to refresh the
 database. but then it does not show any installed pkgs with the
 check mark.  And if I check a pkg to install or whatever, the
 `Install/Update' button stays greyed out, as does the `Remove'
 button.

 So it offers neither to install or remove anything.

 pkg publisher shows:
 PUBLISHER  TYPE STATUS   URI
 release111b  (preferred)  origin   online   
 http://pkg.opensolaris.org/release/

 I've never heard of this particular issue before.  Although, I'd note
 that your publisher shouldn't be named release111b; it should be
 opensolaris.org'.

I understood that naming option to be at the users discretion so used
it to remind me I'm on a released version.

 I'm a little nervous about proceeding with cmdline pkg commands, since
 it seems something is wrong somewhere.

 The cli tool will provide more informative output.

 What's the output of 'pkg list' ?

A hefty list of 621 pkgs...

 Let me say here that until just recently I've been using the
pkgmanager every once in a while when I decided I wanted something
else installed... and have had no serious problem to speak of.

One thing that struck me as odd about `pkg list' output is that it has the
term `dev' in parens like this:
SUNWxwopt (dev)0.5.11-0.111installed  
SUNWxwplr (dev)0.5.11-0.111installed  
SUNWxwplt (dev)0.5.11-0.111installed  
SUNWxwpmn (dev)0.5.11-0.111installed  
SUNWxwrtl (dev)
[...]

I may have done something like decided to move up to dev at some time
in the past and then changed my mind... I vaguely recall something
like that... but I never actually ran an update that way... and the
pkgs all have the [...]111 version on them.

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