Re: [osol-discuss] An effort to rally around - building a real, community driven distro...

[Martin Bochnig]

To all who missed the original message:


http://mail.opensolaris.org/pipermail/distribution-discuss/2010-May/000727.html


[distribution-discuss] A community based distro
Dennis Clarke dclarke at blastwave.org
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All :

After much thought I feel motivated to ask for a new community
based distro. It is my opinion that the trademarked OpenSolaris distro
is more product than passion. It is more controlled resource than
community creation. We are in a situation after some five years of the
OpenSolaris community where one can not simply download sources and
build something runnable. We can not even bootstrap the kernel without
special corporate internal knowledge and resources. There are still
large numbers of closed bins, trap doors and secret hallways just to
build the current OpenSolaris code base. There was a brief flash of
light with Ian Murdock and "Project Indiana" but this too seems to
have fallen entirely into the hands of the corporate bureaucracy. I
see no reason to talk about or ask about anything called 2010.03
anymore.

It is stagnant.

We need the right sort of community people to gather together and
to get the required code from here, there and elsewhere to get a
kernel booted that has a shell prompt. Get past i18n. We need to
identify the road blocks and the secrets and drag them out into the
light. Address them one at a time and attack them as needed.

I am talking about a community reference distro that anyone can
use, build, download and redistribute.

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On Thu, May 20, 2010 at 9:33 AM, Martin Bochnig  wrote:
> On Thu, May 20, 2010 at 8:43 AM, John Plocher  wrote:
>> Re: http://opensolaris.org/jive/thread.jspa?threadID=129430&tstart=15
>>
>> As Dennis said, "We are in a situation after some five years of the
>> OpenSolaris community where one can not simply download sources and build
>> something runnable. We can not even bootstrap the kernel without special
>> corporate internal knowledge and resources. There are still large numbers of
>> closed bins, trap doors and secret hallways just to build the current
>> OpenSolaris code base."
>
>
> That´s not an accurate description.
> His text proves a few things. Namely that somebody turns things up and down.
> Ian Murdock was a short flash of light? The kernels are not
> bootable??? What??
>
> Ok, join that effort, lol .
>
>
>> This is an invitation for y'all to come on over to the Distribution
>> community and join us as we brainstorm and code a real, community driven
>> distro into existence.  Joerg and Moinak are already there, plotting how
>> they can start by leveraging each other's build procedures and associated
>> source code to allow anyone to easily clone the ON sources from
>> OpenSolaris.org and build a kernel that boots to a shell prompt.
>>
>> Once we get to that point, we'll take another step towards removing barriers
>> and enabling community participation.  And another.  A bunch of little
>> steps, maybe, but they all add up.
>>
>> Join us!
>>
>>   -John Plocher
>>    Less talk, more code!
>
>
>
> IMO this was already too much talk.
>
> Everybody can join one of the existing distros, such as BeleniX or MilaX.
> Recommended: Certain parties should just start reading those websites
> and associated Blogs first, for the first time!
>
> And btw: Everybody can just contribute to existing Sun/Oracle repo
> gates, such as caiman (led by the very community-involvement
> openminded David Miner).
>
> Why starting this entire ^Dennis needs to lead a new reference^ distro talk?
> Starting it on the general opensolaris-discuss alias will end up in an
> endless loop of flames.
>
>
> I rather escape before it gets hot here.
> [in 2 minutes I unsubscribe from opensol-discuss]
>
>
>
>
>
> %mab
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Re: [osol-discuss] An effort to rally around - building a real, community driven distro...

[Martin Bochnig]

On Thu, May 20, 2010 at 8:43 AM, John Plocher  wrote:
> Re: http://opensolaris.org/jive/thread.jspa?threadID=129430&tstart=15
>
> As Dennis said, "We are in a situation after some five years of the
> OpenSolaris community where one can not simply download sources and build
> something runnable. We can not even bootstrap the kernel without special
> corporate internal knowledge and resources. There are still large numbers of
> closed bins, trap doors and secret hallways just to build the current
> OpenSolaris code base."


That´s not an accurate description.
His text proves a few things. Namely that somebody turns things up and down.
Ian Murdock was a short flash of light? The kernels are not
bootable??? What??

Ok, join that effort, lol .


> This is an invitation for y'all to come on over to the Distribution
> community and join us as we brainstorm and code a real, community driven
> distro into existence.  Joerg and Moinak are already there, plotting how
> they can start by leveraging each other's build procedures and associated
> source code to allow anyone to easily clone the ON sources from
> OpenSolaris.org and build a kernel that boots to a shell prompt.
>
> Once we get to that point, we'll take another step towards removing barriers
> and enabling community participation.  And another.  A bunch of little
> steps, maybe, but they all add up.
>
> Join us!
>
>   -John Plocher
>    Less talk, more code!



IMO this was already too much talk.

Everybody can join one of the existing distros, such as BeleniX or MilaX.
Recommended: Certain parties should just start reading those websites
and associated Blogs first, for the first time!

And btw: Everybody can just contribute to existing Sun/Oracle repo
gates, such as caiman (led by the very community-involvement
openminded David Miner).

Why starting this entire ^Dennis needs to lead a new reference^ distro talk?
Starting it on the general opensolaris-discuss alias will end up in an
endless loop of flames.


I rather escape before it gets hot here.
[in 2 minutes I unsubscribe from opensol-discuss]





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Re: [osol-discuss] What is eating my memory in ZFS

[dd pn]

Great! I came across to those links before. So what would be the best way to 
figure out my top ten applications that are using my memory? Do I need to 
create a custom script for this, a dtrace script maybe or is there any other 
method?

Thanks again for coming back to me..
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[osol-discuss] An effort to rally around - building a real, community driven distro...

[John Plocher]

Re: http://opensolaris.org/jive/thread.jspa?threadID=129430&tstart=15

As Dennis said, "We are in a situation after some five years of the
OpenSolaris community where one can not simply download sources and build
something runnable. We can not even bootstrap the kernel without special
corporate internal knowledge and resources. There are still large numbers of
closed bins, trap doors and secret hallways just to build the current
OpenSolaris code base."

This is an invitation for y'all to come on over to the Distribution
community and join us as we brainstorm and code a real, community driven
distro into existence.  Joerg and Moinak are already there, plotting how
they can start by leveraging each other's build procedures and associated
source code to allow anyone to easily clone the ON sources from
OpenSolaris.org and build a kernel that boots to a shell prompt.

Once we get to that point, we'll take another step towards removing barriers
and enabling community participation.  And another.  A bunch of little
steps, maybe, but they all add up.

Join us!

  -John Plocher
   Less talk, more code!
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Re: [osol-discuss] What is eating my memory in ZFS

[Benjamin Brumaire]

try either http://blogs.sun.com/realneel/resource/arcstat.pl or 
http://www.cuddletech.com/blog/pivot/entry.php?id=979

bbr
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Re: [osol-discuss] Support options for Opensolaris?

[ольга крыжановская]

Nicholas,

I uploaded a i686 ksh93 binary tar ball for Opensolaris B134 or better
to 
http://www.nrubsig.org/people/fleyta/opensolaris/posixcore/opensolaris_ksh20100309_i686_20100520_rev2102.tar.bz2
The binaries contain a fix which should solve your problem and a new
test suite module /usr/demo/ksh/tests/sun_solaris_math_misc.sh to
watch the bug fix.

Please install it as root by:
cd /
cp /usr/bin/ksh /usr/bin/ksh.saved
bzcat  wrote:
> Hello list,
>
> we wish to have the bug below handled ASAP and are looking for at
> least a year of full support for our existing Sun hardware running
> Opensolaris.
> Which support options does Oracle provide for Opensolaris?
> How can we get forward?
> How can we archive a quick solution for our existing problem?
>
> Nicolas
>
> -- Forwarded message --
> From: Nicholas George 
> Date: 19 May 2010 00:31
> Subject: BUG: 'integer -a z=( [1]=90 ) ; function x { nameref nz=$1 ;
> print " $((log10(nz)))==$((log10($nz)))" ; } ; x z[1]' prints two
> different values
> To: ksh93-integration-disc...@opensolaris.org,
> shell-disc...@opensolaris.org, indiana-disc...@opensolaris.org
>
>
> Hello list,
>
> during development of an analysis/simulation software for a customer
> we ran into a nasty bug in Indiana ksh. We would appreciate any help,
> this is currently a development blocker because our software prototype
> should be implemented in a scripting language and Solaris perl lacks
> sufficient floating point resolution.
>
> Reproducible: Always
> Steps to Reproduce:
> Run ksh -c 'integer -a z=( [1]=90 ) ; function x { nameref nz=$1 ;
> print " $((log10(nz)))==$((log10($nz)))" ; } ; x z[1]'
>
> Actual Results:
> The shell will print:
>  -inf==1.95424250943932487459005580651023
>
> Expected Results:
> The shell should print identical values
>  1.95424250943932487459005580651023==1.95424250943932487459005580651023
>
> Evaluation:
> This bug only happens if the value in the array is accessed via a
> nameref variable, the array index is greater than 0 and nz is not
> dereferenced as string like in the second call to log10().
>
> Nicolas
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>
>
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Re: [osol-discuss] What is eating my memory in ZFS

[Edward Ned Harvey]

> From: Ian Collins [mailto:i...@ianshome.com]
> 
> > Use blastwave or opencsw.  Install top.
> >
> In the context of the original question, what does top offer that
> prstat
> does not?

I said top.  You said prstat.
Whatever you like.

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Re: [osol-discuss] zhist good enough for usage

[Edward Ned Harvey]

> From: Darren Kenny [mailto:dke...@opensolaris.org]
> 
> Have you seen the GUI equivalent to this in nautilus in 2009.06 and
> later builds?

Thanks for the suggestion.  I have heard of time slider before, but it's
only available in the solaris/opensolaris gui, and (does it work across a
network or just locally?)  But it's certainly an attractive interface.

I have also seen "previous versions" before, but it's only available in
windows.  Obviously only works remotely.

The purpose of zhist is to be equally functional and accessible
cross-platform, on local storage, or remotely via cifs/nfs.

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Re: [osol-discuss] What is eating my memory in ZFS

[Ian Collins]

On 05/20/10 11:09 AM, Edward Ned Harvey wrote:

From: opensolaris-discuss-boun...@opensolaris.org [mailto:opensolaris-
discuss-boun...@opensolaris.org] On Behalf Of dd pn

but we want to
know how much memory is being used for any application at any time?
 

Use blastwave or opencsw.  Install top.


   
In the context of the original question, what does top offer that prstat 
does not?


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Re: [osol-discuss] image-update incredibly slow

[Edward Ned Harvey]

> From: opensolaris-discuss-boun...@opensolaris.org [mailto:opensolaris-
> discuss-boun...@opensolaris.org] On Behalf Of Antoine Benkemoun
> 
> I am trying to update an OpenSolaris 2009.06 Xen VM (dom0 is Debian
> Lenny) from build 111 to 134. It is incredibly slow, you can't even
> imagine...

I hope you made a VM snapshot before you began.  The upgrade process, for
me, has never gone smoothly.  (Hopefully other people will say they've had
better luck than me.)  In fact, what I did was about as vanilla as you could
possibly be.  I installed fresh clean 2009.06 and moved directly into
upgrading.

If at all possible, I'd recommend starting with a fresh installation from
the later CD.  If not possible ... at least make a backup before beginning.

Sorry I don't have any comments about the slowness.

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Re: [osol-discuss] What is eating my memory in ZFS

[Edward Ned Harvey]

> From: opensolaris-discuss-boun...@opensolaris.org [mailto:opensolaris-
> discuss-boun...@opensolaris.org] On Behalf Of dd pn
> 
> but we want to
> know how much memory is being used for any application at any time?

Use blastwave or opencsw.  Install top.



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[osol-discuss] image-update incredibly slow

[Antoine Benkemoun]

Hello,

I am trying to update an OpenSolaris 2009.06 Xen VM (dom0 is Debian Lenny)
from build 111 to 134. It is incredibly slow, you can't even imagine...

Yesterday, I started the process at 11PM and at 6PM today it crashed towards
the end of the installation phase. I stopped it then and restarted it
tonight and it does not show any signs of life after three hours stuck at
"Creating plan". I started it in a screen so it shouldn't have to do with my
terminal and/or SSH connection.

It did the upgrade process on my Intel Atom + ADSL 7Mbit/s and it took 5
hours. I guess it's an acceptable time for a 23 version upgrade but this VM
is on a reasonably sized server (Quad Core, 4Gb of RAM) with 100Mbit/s of
Internet bandwidth.

I used the following commands :

pkg set-publisher -O http://pkg.opensolaris.org/dev opensolaris.org

pkg image-update

What could be crashing the process and making it so incredibly slow ?

Thank you in advance for your help,

Antoine
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[osol-discuss] What is eating my memory in ZFS

[dd pn]

Hello,

I am sure this question has been asked before but I am trying to figure out 
what is eating my memory. 

We have zfs_arc cache set up in our /etc/system to 4GB but we want to know how 
much memory is being used for any application at any time?

Is there any command in Solaris 10 that tells us how to see memory leaks, or 
what memory is spent where?

Here is some of the commands I know :
# prstat -s rss

prustat from  http://www.brendangregg.com/DTrace/prustat

No zones build in the system so I don't need to use
prstart -Z

Any other ways or commands you can suggest to really see what is going on in 
the system?
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Re: [osol-discuss] b134b / 2010.05

[Calum Benson]

On 19 May 2010, at 19:31, solarg wrote:

> that's the point, it doesn't work! instead, it just launches the screensaver 
> ...
> i don't understand why, if gnome is the same for linux distros and 
> opensolaris? and does it manage the sound when you switch user?

User switching depends on a lot of stuff we typically have to do a lot of work 
on for Solaris and Sun Ray -- upstream it uses gnome-screensaver, which we 
don't ship yet; Linux has VTs, which we don't have by default yet; and gdm is 
still somewhat in flux since its recent rewrite too.

IIRC the latest user switching stuff also depends on PolicyKit, and I've yet to 
see anything called *Kit coming from the Linux community that hasn't caused us 
headaches :)

Cheeri,
Calum.

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Re: [osol-discuss] b134b / 2010.05

[solarg]

On 05/19/10 07:33 PM, Calum Benson wrote:



On 19 May 2010, at 14:04, solarg wrote:


i'd also prefer to see Qt libs, and the possibility to switch user in gnome, as 
in other distros...


Re user switching, you used to be able to enable it as follows -- don't know if 
this still works, though:




that's the point, it doesn't work! instead, it just launches the 
screensaver ...
i don't understand why, if gnome is the same for linux distros and 
opensolaris? and does it manage the sound when you switch user?



gerard
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Re: [osol-discuss] b134b / 2010.05

[Calum Benson]

On 19 May 2010, at 14:04, solarg wrote:
> 
> i'd also prefer to see Qt libs, and the possibility to switch user in gnome, 
> as in other distros...

Re user switching, you used to be able to enable it as follows -- don't know if 
this still works, though:


Cheeri,
Calum.

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Re: [osol-discuss] Support options for Opensolaris?

[Josh Hurst]

On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 12:53 AM, Erik Trimble  wrote:
> You'll have to talk to a Oracle Sales Rep directly to get information
> about Support options for OpenSolaris.  This has been changing over the
> past month(s), so please talk to the SaleReps - the various
> @opensolaris.org lists can't give you specific information about support
> contracts from Oracle.
>
>
> Once you purchase an Oracle support contract for your system(s), you can
> file a bug and escalation for your problem with Oracle, and it will be
> addressed as any normal Solaris 10 issue.

Since when does Solaris 10 have an usable ksh93 shell provided by Oracle?

Josh
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Re: [osol-discuss] [osol-help] Support options for Opensolaris?

[Josh Hurst]

On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 12:36 AM, Nicholas George
 wrote:
> Hello list,
>
> we wish to have the bug below handled ASAP and are looking for at
> least a year of full support for our existing Sun hardware running
> Opensolaris.
> Which support options does Oracle provide for Opensolaris?
> How can we get forward?
> How can we archive a quick solution for our existing problem?

This would a jolly good way to waste your company funds if you just
want to obtain support for that bug or ksh93 in Opensolaris. Oracle
has not shown any interest in that project and even imposed a blockade
on the project's changes. Your won't receive help via Oracle support.
Better you post the problem to
http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/ksh93-integration-discuss/,
the project leads there usually offer their help there quickly and
without bureaucracy.

Josh
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Re: [osol-discuss] b134b / 2010.05

[Alan Coopersmith]

solarg wrote:
> what is surprising is the inclusion of CDE chunks:
> cde/calendar-manager-serverCDE calendar manager service daemon
> cde/cde-utilitiesCDE Utilities
> cde/help-viewerCDE Help Runtime

Those are portions of CDE that were purposely excluded from the EOF,
but we hadn't gotten translated into IPS packages until after 2009.06.

cde/calendar-manager-server - so that you can upgrade your servers
 to newer releases, even if some of your users still use the CDE
 calendar manager on your desktop

cde/cde-utilities - things like dtksh, dtaction, dtexec that sites
 or ISV's might have used when writing scripts

cde/help-viewer - allows viewing online help documents for
 third-party applications built for the CDE desktop

None of the sources for those were opened, just made available as
binary packages.

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Re: [osol-discuss] b134b / 2010.05

[ken mays]

--- On Wed, 5/19/10, Ashish Nabira  wrote:
> There is download link for 2010.05,
> but it is pointing to 2009.06. When new opensolaris will be
> ready to download ?
>
> Ashish Nabira
> Enterprise IT Architect
> 
> Sun Microsystems, Inc.

You'll see the announcement in opensolaris-announce for the OpenSolaris 2010.05 
release and the update on the Genunix.org website.

~ Ken Mays






  
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Re: [osol-discuss] b134b / 2010.05

[Ashish Nabira]

There is download link for 2010.05, but it is pointing to 2009.06.  
When new opensolaris will be ready to download ?




Ashish Nabira
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Sun Microsystems, Inc.
7th floor , Prestige Obelisk, Kasturba Rd
Bangalore, KN 560025 IN
Phone x89854/+91 8066930 854
Mobile +919845082183
Email ashish.nab...@sun.com


On 19-May-10, at 6:07 PM, russell wrote:

Nice to see that Whats new in OpenSolaris 2010.05 details below

http://cr.opensolaris.org/~gman/opensolaris-whats-new-2010-05/

A couple of points with the "What's new"

[i]"With this new functionality, users are still limited to a single  
OpenSolaris partition, whether it is primary or logical. With the  
inclusion of the GNU Partition Editor on the OpenSolaris 2010.05  
LiveCD users can resize, create or delete disk partitions and  
filesystems."[/i]


Will OpenSolaris support the resizing of NTFS, Ext2, Ext3, Ext4, UFS  
and FAT filesystems?


[i]TPM support for OpenSolaris[/i]

Does this open the way for applications to be provided for OpenSolaris  
which are license enforced using the TPM chip?




[i]New Packages[/i]

It would have been nice to see Qt provided as part of the standard  
build.

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Re: [osol-discuss] b134b / 2010.05

[Dmitry G. Kozhinov]

>Sadly no OpenVPN!

Yes, some kind of VPN client please!
Hope developers are listening...
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Re: [osol-discuss] b134b / 2010.05

[Paul Griffith]

On Wed, 2010-05-19 at 15:04 +0200, solarg wrote:
> On 05/19/10 02:37 PM, russell wrote:
> >
> > Nice to see that Whats new in OpenSolaris 2010.05 details below
> >
> > http://cr.opensolaris.org/~gman/opensolaris-whats-new-2010-05/
> >
> > A couple of points with the "What's new"
> >
> 
> what is surprising is the inclusion of CDE chunks:
> cde/calendar-manager-server   CDE calendar manager service daemon
> cde/cde-utilities CDE Utilities
> cde/help-viewer   CDE Help Runtime
> 
> i'd also prefer to see Qt libs, and the possibility to switch user in 
> gnome, as in other distros...
> 
> gerard

Sadly no OpenVPN!

Paul



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[osol-discuss] ssh coredumps when used with vnc on b134

[solarg]

hello all,
on my laptop, os20xx.xx b134, i'm using vncviewer thru ssh like this:
vncviewer -shared -passwd passwd -via MY_SERVER

the MY_SERVER is a solaris 10 machine, running vncserver (from SUNWxvnc).

Examning the core file:
he...@tara:~$ pstack core
core 'core' of 7397:	/usr/bin/ssh -f -L 5599:MY_REAL_VNC_SERV:5901 
MY_SERVER sleep 20

 080664eb client_input_channel_req (62, 202c, 80be8a8, 80475b0) + d3
 08070d42 dispatch_run (1, 80a6608, 80be8a8, 8065a8b) + 52
 080655e4 client_process_buffered_input_packets (80a9538, 10, 11f94d6a, 
41d2fcf4, 80a9c98, 80a9e08) + 28

 0806595b client_loop (0, fffe, 2, 805d697, 80b7458) + 2ef
 0805d6b8 ssh_session2 (8047700, fefc82f1, 80477e8, 80a9c98, 1, 3) + 5c
 0805c4e7 main (7, 8047890, 80478b0, 804784c) + e3f
 0805b5dd _start   (7, 80479cc, 80479d9, 80479dc, 80479df, 80479f2) + 7d


but if i use the following commands, things are better (stable connection):
ssh -c blowfish -N -f MY_SERVER -L 5901:MY_REAL_VNC_SERV:5901 sleep 60
vncviewer -passwd .vnc/passwd localhost:1

Has anybody else encountered the problem? or is it preferable to open a 
ticket?


thanks in advance for help,

gerard
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Re: [osol-discuss] b134b / 2010.05

[solarg]

On 05/19/10 02:37 PM, russell wrote:


Nice to see that Whats new in OpenSolaris 2010.05 details below

http://cr.opensolaris.org/~gman/opensolaris-whats-new-2010-05/

A couple of points with the "What's new"



what is surprising is the inclusion of CDE chunks:
cde/calendar-manager-server CDE calendar manager service daemon
cde/cde-utilities   CDE Utilities
cde/help-viewer CDE Help Runtime

i'd also prefer to see Qt libs, and the possibility to switch user in 
gnome, as in other distros...


gerard
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Re: [osol-discuss] b134b / 2010.05

[russell]

Nice to see that Whats new in OpenSolaris 2010.05 details below

http://cr.opensolaris.org/~gman/opensolaris-whats-new-2010-05/ 

A couple of points with the "What's new"

[i]"With this new functionality, users are still limited to a single 
OpenSolaris partition, whether it is primary or logical. With the inclusion of 
the GNU Partition Editor on the OpenSolaris 2010.05 LiveCD users can resize, 
create or delete disk partitions and filesystems."[/i]
 
Will OpenSolaris support the resizing of NTFS, Ext2, Ext3, Ext4, UFS and FAT 
filesystems?

[i]TPM support for OpenSolaris[/i]

Does this open the way for applications to be provided for OpenSolaris which 
are license enforced using the TPM chip?



[i]New Packages[/i]

It would have been nice to see Qt provided as part of the standard build.
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Re: [osol-discuss] zhist good enough for usage

[Darren Kenny]

Hi Edward,

Looks interesting ...

Have you seen the GUI equivalent to this in nautilus in 2009.06 and later 
builds?

If you browse to a directory which has ZFS snapshots it allows you to look at
the history of the dir, and if you select a file and right-click you can ask for
a version history...

Check out Erwann's blog at:

http://blogs.sun.com/erwann/category/zfs

there have been enhancements since the last release too in the dev builds too.

Well worth a look... If nothing else it could give you some ideas for
enhancement to zhist ;)

Darren.

On 05/19/10 01:08 PM, Edward Ned Harvey wrote:
> svn export https://zhist.googlecode.com/svn/tags/0.6beta
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Re: [osol-discuss] bash history and su

[Edward Ned Harvey]

> From: opensolaris-discuss-boun...@opensolaris.org [mailto:opensolaris-
> discuss-boun...@opensolaris.org] On Behalf Of Bruno Damour
> 
> I noticed that in the last versions of osol (I'm running b134), the
> bash history of commands is the same if I am logged in as a normal user
> and if i use su (from this same user).
> I do not remember that it used to be the case before ? I think when su-
> ed in it used to be the root bash history.

Perhaps try:
su -

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[osol-discuss] zhist good enough for usage

[Edward Ned Harvey]

The purpose of zhist is to simplify access to past snapshots.  For example,
if you "zhist ls somefile" then the results will be:  A list of all the
previous snapshot versions of that file or directory.  No need to find the
right .zfs directory, or check to see which ones have changed.  Some
reasonable steps (stat) are taken inside this zhist, to identify the
previous snaps, and to identify unique snaps of the requested object.

There is a long way still remaining to go.  But this is a 90/10 rule.  The
first "good enough for usage" version is available, and that's what most
people would care about.

You can get the present release as follows:

svn export https://zhist.googlecode.com/svn/tags/0.6beta
sudo chown root:root 0.6beta/zhist
sudo chmod 755 0.6beta/zhist
(optionally, edit the first line of 0.6beta/zhist to match your
environment's preferred python location)
sudo mv 0.6beta/zhist /usr/local/bin

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[osol-discuss] bash history and su

[Bruno Damour]

Hello,
I noticed that in the last versions of osol (I'm running b134), the bash 
history of commands is the same if I am logged in as a normal user and if i use 
su (from this same user). 
I do not remember that it used to be the case before ? I think when su-ed in it 
used to be the root bash history.
Is it intended ?
Bruno
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[osol-discuss] Closed Binary Problem in b111b build/installation on OpenSolaris 2009.06

[anand bibhuti]

During the course of b111b build/installation , i have read that problem of 
closed binaries frequently occur. To resolve the closed binary problem 
following steps have been suggested . 
8<
#cd /export/home/build/b111b/closed/root_i386/usr/lib/security
# mv pkcs11_softtoken.so.1 pkcs11_softtoken.so.1.orig 
# cp -p /usr/lib/security/pkcs11_softtoken.so.1 .
# cd /export/home/build/b111b/closed/root_i386/usr/lib/security/amd64
# mv pkcs11_softtoken.so.1 pkcs11_softtoken.so.1.orig 
# cp -p /usr/lib/security/amd64/pkcs11_softtoken.so.1 .
8<

But when i extracted the closed-bins (on-closed-bins-i386.tar.bz2), there is no 
"security" directory in the path 
/export/home/build/b111b/closed/root_i386/usr/lib/security.

I have  checked the README.ON-BINARIES.i386 and it also doesn’t mention the 
security directory under the file list. 

If i skip this closed binary problem resolution steps and continue with all 
other steps of nightly build and kernel build and install , i get three boot 
options after machine is rebooted.

1. OpenSolaris 2009.06
2. b111benv
3. Solaris sunv_111b x86

But the machine is unable to get booted from option 2nd or 3rd. It can be 
booted only with 1st (Default) option.
It seems that due to the problem of closed binary only i am not able to boot 
machine with b111benv or Solaris sunv_111b x86 options. 

Please let me know if this (closed binary problem) is the exact reason that 
machine are not getting booted with b111benv or Solaris sunv_111b x86 boot 
options. If that is the case , is there any workaround to address this issue.?
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Re: [osol-discuss] b134b / 2010.05

[Uros Nedic]

It is consolidation from May 8th this year - not OSOL 2010.05.Certainly 
something is cooking but not at this place :).
Uros

 



> Date: Wed, 19 May 2010 02:49:15 -0700
> From: wporteg...@gmail.com
> To: opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
> Subject: Re: [osol-discuss] b134b / 2010.05
> 
> and what about the http://dlc.sun.com/osol/on/downloads/20100508/ dir ;)
> 
> Something might be  cooking?
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[Wouter Portegjs]

and what about the http://dlc.sun.com/osol/on/downloads/20100508/ dir ;)

Something might be  cooking?
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[osol-discuss] b134b / 2010.05

[Christian Pélissier]

Have a look at :

http://dlc.sun.com/osol/on/downloads/b134b/

http://cr.opensolaris.org/~gman/opensolaris-whats-new-2010-05/
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Re: [osol-discuss] What is STOREDGE In SOLARIS?

[Thommy M . Malmström]

> On 19.05.2010 09:42, Svein Skogen wrote:
> > On 19.05.2010 09:29, Thommy M. Malmström wrote:
> >> Short answer:
> >>
> >> JFGI
> > 
> > Less polite answer:
> > 
> > http://lmgtfy.com/?q=storegde
> > 
> 
> I blame that typo on blood in my caffeine-stream,
> that link should have
> been:
> 
> http://lmgtfy.com/?q=storedge

You're forgiven. Thanks for showing me this. Can come in handy from time to 
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Re: [osol-discuss] Support options for Opensolaris?

[Thommy M . Malmström]

> Reproducible: Always
> Steps to Reproduce:
> Run ksh -c 'integer -a z=( [1]=90 ) ; function x {
> nameref nz=$1 ;
> print " $((log10(nz)))==$((log10($nz)))" ; } ; x
> z[1]'
> 
> Actual Results:
> The shell will print:
>  -inf==1.95424250943932487459005580651023
> Expected Results:
> The shell should print identical values
>  1.95424250943932487459005580651023==1.954242509439324
> 7459005580651023
> 
> Evaluation:
> This bug only happens if the value in the array is
> accessed via a
> nameref variable, the array index is greater than 0
> and nz is not
> dereferenced as string like in the second call to
> log10().


Not that I'm much of a shell coder these days, but where have you verified the 
code?

The Ubuntu/Lucid Lynx implementation of ksh gives the same result as on 
OPpenSolaris_b134:

thom...@lucidlynx:~$ ksh -c 'integer -a z=( [1]=90 ) ; function x { nameref 
nz=$1 ; print " $((log10(nz)))==$((log10($nz)))" ; } ; x z[1]'
 -inf==1.95424250943932487
thom...@lucidlynx:~$ uname -a
Linux lucidlynx 2.6.32-21-generic #32-Ubuntu SMP Fri Apr 16 08:10:02 UTC 2010 
i686 GNU/Linux


thom...@isis:~$ ksh -c 'integer -a z=( [1]=90 ) ; function x { nameref nz=$1 ;
print " $((log10(nz)))==$((log10($nz)))" ; } ; x z[1]'
 -inf==1.95424250943932487
thom...@isis:~$ uname -a
SunOS isis 5.11 snv_134 i86pc i386 i86pc
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Re: [osol-discuss] What is STOREDGE In SOLARIS?

[Svein Skogen]

On 19.05.2010 09:42, Svein Skogen wrote:
> On 19.05.2010 09:29, Thommy M. Malmström wrote:
>> Short answer:
>>
>> JFGI
> 
> Less polite answer:
> 
> http://lmgtfy.com/?q=storegde
> 

I blame that typo on blood in my caffeine-stream, that link should have
been:

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=storedge

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Re: [osol-discuss] What is STOREDGE In SOLARIS?

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On 19.05.2010 09:29, Thommy M. Malmström wrote:
> Short answer:
> 
> JFGI

Less polite answer:

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=storegde


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Re: [osol-discuss] What is STOREDGE In SOLARIS?

[Thommy M . Malmström]

Long answer:

A1000 = 
http://sunsolve.sun.com/handbook_pub/validateUser.do?target=Systems/A1000/A1000
D1000 = 
http://sunsolve.sun.com/handbook_pub/validateUser.do?target=Systems/D1000/D1000
T3 = http://sunsolve.sun.com/handbook_pub/validateUser.do?target=Systems/T3/T3

These are all old storage systems once sold by Sun Microsystems but no longer 
supported. Why do you want to know? Questions like this is very easy to find an 
answer to by searching for the particular acronym on the Internet with for 
example the Google search engine.

Short answer:

JFGI
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