Re: [osol-discuss] Quick question about the future
On 10/13/10 04:27 PM, samantha brekel wrote: when will the recent builds be completed What recent builds? -- Ian. ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Quick question about the future
when will the recent builds be completed -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] virtual windows on a hot Osol machine
On 10/13/10 01:01 PM, Harry Putnam wrote: "Alex Smith (K4RNT)" writes: You'll only be bound by the Windows maximum memory addressing limit. According to the Wikipedia article on Windows 7, Home Premium 64-bit edition is limited to 16GB, and higher editions are limited to 192GB. YMMV, I run a 64-bit Windows 7 Professional host with 4GB RAM. [...] Ahh good input thanks. What are you running the win7 host on? What do you do on the virtual win 7? I'd like to be able to do video editing at least as well as I'm now doing that kind of work on an i7 Q820 (Sager laptop) that has 8 GB ram. i7 Q820 1.73 Ghz and 8gb ram seems plenty powerful but even then there some kinds of timelines that cannot play in real time. I'm trying to kill two birds with one stone, and get both a nice powerful NAS and a video editing machine. The best pro-sumer editing tools all run on windows only at this time. Like the Adobe suites or the Sony (vegas, dvdarch) tools. So hoping to run them with plenty of poop by installing plenty of ram and going the virtual route. Are there any PV drivers for win7? Thinking XVM rather then VirtualBox. -- Ian. ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Cloud services: Amazon versus ...
I'm no expert in the cloud space, but last time I looked, joyent.com was opensolaris-based. Perhaps you could try them. However, in my cloud-based provider search I found co-located physical hardware that I purchased/leased (and therefore could install my own [open]solaris) was way less expensive than virtual-based offerings once you wanted something "large" and performant. YMMV, I was looking months ago. -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] virtual windows on a hot Osol machine
It occurred to me that you might get better graphics performance by _not_ running your Windows apps in a virtual machine. If that's critical then you may want to virtualize Solaris instead. Or dual boot. Just a thought... -Gary ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] virtual windows on a hot Osol machine
Gary Driggs writes: > Are you running windows locally or across NFS? If the latter, be > sure to use GigE interfaces and switch. Also, if you want a home NAS > box consider NexentaStor's community edition that's free for up to > 12 Tb of storage. Locally only ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] virtual windows on a hot Osol machine
"Alex Smith (K4RNT)" writes: > You'll only be bound by the Windows maximum memory addressing limit. > > According to the Wikipedia article on Windows 7, Home Premium 64-bit > edition is limited to 16GB, and higher editions are limited to 192GB. > > YMMV, I run a 64-bit Windows 7 Professional host with 4GB RAM. > [...] Ahh good input thanks. What are you running the win7 host on? What do you do on the virtual win 7? I'd like to be able to do video editing at least as well as I'm now doing that kind of work on an i7 Q820 (Sager laptop) that has 8 GB ram. i7 Q820 1.73 Ghz and 8gb ram seems plenty powerful but even then there some kinds of timelines that cannot play in real time. I'm trying to kill two birds with one stone, and get both a nice powerful NAS and a video editing machine. The best pro-sumer editing tools all run on windows only at this time. Like the Adobe suites or the Sony (vegas, dvdarch) tools. So hoping to run them with plenty of poop by installing plenty of ram and going the virtual route. ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] virtual windows on a hot Osol machine
On 10/13/10 11:15 AM, Harry Putnam wrote: "Dmitry G. Kozhinov" writes: What I'm asking here is if running a virtual windows 7 would be able to take good advantage of the 24 GB or ram? I think that VirtualBox will be fairly able to allocate most of the 24GB of RAM to guest Windows 7 64bit. I did try myself though. Thanks for the input. And I'm curious. If you haven't tried it, what do you base the assesment on. You know someone who has done this, or heard of it being done somewhere? VirtualBox will display the current installed RAM when configuring a VM. It warns you when you go above 60%, but doesn't stop you allocating more. -- Ian. ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] virtual windows on a hot Osol machine
You'll only be bound by the Windows maximum memory addressing limit. According to the Wikipedia article on Windows 7, Home Premium 64-bit edition is limited to 16GB, and higher editions are limited to 192GB. YMMV, I run a 64-bit Windows 7 Professional host with 4GB RAM. On Tue, Oct 12, 2010 at 17:15, Harry Putnam wrote: > "Dmitry G. Kozhinov" > writes: > >>> What I'm asking here is if running a virtual windows 7 would be able >> to take good advantage of the 24 GB or ram? >> >> I think that VirtualBox will be fairly able to allocate most of the >> 24GB of RAM to guest Windows 7 64bit. I did try myself though. > > Thanks for the input. And I'm curious. If you haven't tried it, what > do you base the assesment on. You know someone who has done this, or > heard of it being done somewhere? -- " ' With the first link, the chain is forged. The first speech censured, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us all irrevocably.' Those words were uttered by Judge Aaron Satie as wisdom and warning... The first time any man's freedom is trodden on we’re all damaged." - Jean-Luc Picard, quoting Judge Aaron Satie, Star Trek: TNG episode "The Drumhead" - Alex Smith (K4RNT) - Murfreesboro, Tennessee USA ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] virtual windows on a hot Osol machine
Are you running windows locally or across NFS? If the latter, be sure to use GigE interfaces and switch. Also, if you want a home NAS box consider NexentaStor's community edition that's free for up to 12 Tb of storage. -Gary ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] virtual windows on a hot Osol machine
"Dmitry G. Kozhinov" writes: >> What I'm asking here is if running a virtual windows 7 would be able > to take good advantage of the 24 GB or ram? > > I think that VirtualBox will be fairly able to allocate most of the > 24GB of RAM to guest Windows 7 64bit. I did try myself though. Thanks for the input. And I'm curious. If you haven't tried it, what do you base the assesment on. You know someone who has done this, or heard of it being done somewhere? ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] VLC and Firefox 3.6.10
Use the DVD player from fluendo.com -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Well supported Dual Port Gigabit Ethernet Adapters on OSOL/OIND
> Hi Karel, > > I am well aware of the fact that neither of the > relevant drivers (i.e. yge, yukonx, myk) currently > supports the Marvell 8059 as I have explicitly > pointed it out in the first sentence of this thread, > as well as in the previous thread I have been > referring to. I personally tried them all out, so I > can confirm this. Great! So you have also found and tested myk, that's good. > On the other hand if you try to consult my "old > friend" on e.g.: Opensolaris and "Phenom II X6 > 1090T", "AMD 890FX" or "SB850", you might easily > find, that apart from various references to the > thread I have started on these forums there is > absolutely no other confirmation of the compatibility > of this major and important CPU and chipset. > > As a OpenSolaris user I can well live with the fact > that not every piece of cheap harware junk will work > with this operating system. What is on the other hand > for many potential users hard to swallow, is the > difficulty of determining what hardware will actually > work well on OpenSolaris or even work at all. Not > everyone is e.g. willing to buy a specific CPU and > motherboard only to try out whether it will work at > all just because a similiar, but not identical, > chipset was reported to work, neither will everyone > be interested in acquiring and testing several > network adapters only for finding out which of them > will work well, which will occasionally hang and > which features are unsupported and therefore > irrelevant for making a choice. > > I think it is furthermmore quite obvious that not > every OpenSolaris user wants to choose between giving > up ECC memory, investing into multiple Opteron CPUs > and a some quite expensive server board, buying some > old hardware or risking incompatibility and driver > issues with current boards due to lacking > information. Despite Intels popularity, AMD still > provides unbeatable overall value and the most > affordable 6-cores and is a certainly great fit for > OpenSolaris. > > I think the vision of the HCL was to be easily able > to access information about compatibility at least > with common hardware. The currently newest entry > seems to be from 27-05-2010 though and e.g. the > detailed report I have submitted for the ASUS > Crosshair IV Formula motherboard over a month ago is > still not available, making me come to the conclusion > that the service must have been terminated together > with Oracles abortion of OpenSolaris! > I perfectly understand your frustration. I've been also in temptation to update my aging Q6600 box to something more new and Opteron 6000 looks really quite good value for its money. Anyway, there is no way to do this since whole Oracle seems to be in transition to Solaris 11 Express, where I hope whole service will stabilize a bit. In current world, OSol is nonexistent and as you have found it's quite useless to use it as a basis for any report. Anyway, let's wait a little bit and see if situation improves a bit when Sol11Express is out. I at least hope so, since otherwise I would probably need to go to the Debian/Ubuntu/Linux point from which I migrated to the OpenSolaris world few years ago and truly that would be painful change after using OSol. :-) > The questions are: > Which of them will work better on OpenSolaris with > available drivers? > Which one would you recommend? > Which features are missing driver support? > Does one of them burden the CPU more? > Which provides better latencies? To be honest I do have some experience with PCI based Marvel, PCIE based marvel (Asus P5W64 WS Pro board), also with some Broadcom based NICs (3C990 and NIC built into HP 585) and finally some Intel card (PCI-X inside HP 585, T500 builtin NIC) and I've found out that Intel provides the best latencies from all my available NICs. I'm sure this is quite vague information for you, but I don't have anything more for you anyway. The only problem so far is that PCI-X Intel + Solaris 10 sometimes crashes the box completely. My guess is that this is hardware issue as builtin Broadcom is perfectly stable although a little bit slower (higher latency). Karel -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] virtual windows on a hot Osol machine
> What I'm asking here is if running a virtual windows 7 would be able to take good advantage of the 24 GB or ram? I think that VirtualBox will be fairly able to allocate most of the 24GB of RAM to guest Windows 7 64bit. I did try myself though. - Dmitry. -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
[osol-discuss] virtual windows on a hot Osol machine
I'm at the point where I need to upgrade my hardware for my home zfs server. Its not that I've outstripped the hardware with work, but more that hardware is getting pretty old and showing signs of problems. Hardware is Athlon64 +3400 2.2Ghz. It only has capability of holding 3GB or ram. I'm thinking to build up a unit that can handle 24 GB of ram. But that would only make sense if it would be possible on such a machine to run a virtual form of windows 7 for fairly serious video editing. It would not be the main editing interface but would be more of a backup unit that would take some of the work such as processing still pictures or creating leadins in After Effects. Plus (Killing two birds with one stone) still be an Opensolaris machine for the backups of other machines and general storage of data. The NFS angle would be fairly small scale. Currently I have 3 sets of mirrored disks. 2 500GB sets and 1 set of 750gb, with lots of room left over. Even so, I would still probably add another set of 750 disks for the windows work. So that is the kind of scale involved for a networked file server come `windows 7 video editing machine'. What I'm asking here is if running a virtual windows 7 would be able to take good advantage of the 24 GB or ram? ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Well supported Dual Port Gigabit Ethernet Adapters on OSOL/OIND
Hi Karel, I am well aware of the fact that neither of the relevant drivers (i.e. yge, yukonx, myk) currently supports the Marvell 8059 as I have explicitly pointed it out in the first sentence of this thread, as well as in the previous thread I have been referring to. I personally tried them all out, so I can confirm this. Anyways, thanks for adding the references. Concerning my old friend Google, please rest assured that we have an intense, profound and mutually enriching relationship going on for many years already and absolutely no intentions to change that ;) But all jokes aside, in my previous post describing the AFAIK quite common frustration stemming from the overall difficulty of access to up-to-date and accurate OpenSolaris hardware compatibility and driver quality information, I was certainly not specifically referring to the Marvell 8059. I absolutely do not consider the lacking driver support of this specific network chip to be a major issue especially for server and desktop users. Using a high quality dual port add-on card is certainly preferable over cheap motherboard integrated network chips anyway, if only for reasons of link aggregation, redundancy and improved latencies. On the other hand if you try to consult my "old friend" on e.g.: Opensolaris and "Phenom II X6 1090T", "AMD 890FX" or "SB850", you might easily find, that apart from various references to the thread I have started on these forums there is absolutely no other confirmation of the compatibility of this major and important CPU and chipset. As a OpenSolaris user I can well live with the fact that not every piece of cheap harware junk will work with this operating system. What is on the other hand for many potential users hard to swallow, is the difficulty of determining what hardware will actually work well on OpenSolaris or even work at all. Not everyone is e.g. willing to buy a specific CPU and motherboard only to try out whether it will work at all just because a similiar, but not identical, chipset was reported to work, neither will everyone be interested in acquiring and testing several network adapters only for finding out which of them will work well, which will occasionally hang and which features are unsupported and therefore irrelevant for making a choice. I think it is furthermmore quite obvious that not every OpenSolaris user wants to choose between giving up ECC memory, investing into multiple Opteron CPUs and a some quite expensive server board, buying some old hardware or risking incompatibility and driver issues with current boards due to lacking information. Despite Intels popularity, AMD still provides unbeatable overall value and the most affordable 6-cores and is a certainly great fit for OpenSolaris. I think the vision of the HCL was to be easily able to access information about compatibility at least with common hardware. The currently newest entry seems to be from 27-05-2010 though and e.g. the detailed report I have submitted for the ASUS Crosshair IV Formula motherboard over a month ago is still not available, making me come to the conclusion that the service must have been terminated together with Oracles abortion of OpenSolaris! Thus the important question is not whether the aforementioned dual port Intel network adapters are better than the low cost Marvell chip, thats IMHO quite obvious. Neither the question which one of them is better according to spec with full featured drivers from Intel for som other operating system. The questions are: Which of them will work better on OpenSolaris with available drivers? Which one would you recommend? Which features are missing driver support? Does one of them burden the CPU more? Which provides better latencies? -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] [osol-code] Debugging a system freeze: Booting with -k
The system specs are: x86, snv111b 32-bit USB keyboard and mouse. -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] // napp-it WebUI + NAS-appliance Online-Installer with OpenIndiana support
hello budy the only needed setting to run napp-it should be set in file /etc/sudoers and this is normally done via online-installer: webservd ALL=(root) NOPASSWD: ALL if this entry is missing, you will get your error message due to insufficient permissions. and i would strongly recommend setup via online installer. if you install something another way, napp-it could fail. the way napp-it is running may also change and the installer should care about. (example one of next versions: nappit wil run as user nappit under lighttpd and store its data in /var/nappit ) gea -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] // napp-it WebUI + NAS-appliance Online-Installer with OpenIndiana support
Hmm… my oi147 is also a new installation. I did not run the installer since I do already have Netatalk installed and setup and I wasn't sure, whether or not the napp-it installer would recognize it. I have then downloaded napp-it 0.325_pre manually and installed it, but when I try ti run any system commands I am getting these errors: Oct 12 14:04:34 sudo: [ID 702911 local2.alert]admin : no tty present and no askpass program specified ; TTY=unknown ; PWD=/var/apache2/2.2/cgi-bin/napp-it ; USER=root ; COMMAND=/usr/sbin/zpool status budy -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Debugging a system freeze: Booting with -k
The break sequence on more recent builds of OpenSolaris was changed to "Shift-Pause" but I forget which build this came in. Also note that if the console is in graphics mode, the kmdb prompt may have come up behind the graphics screen (we make no attempt to switch back to text mode). You can try typing this: $(followed by return) although you'll be typing blind. Try it a few times in case you mis-spell it. You can try setting the deadman timer (although I've not often seen cases that this can recover from, if the hardware is truly hung). Add "set snooping=1" to /etc/system and reboot. This enables a timer, which will try and panic the system after 50 seconds of inactivity. However, if the hardware has gone out to lunch and not returned, it may not be able to trigger a panic. You might also get more help by posting some details about your system, hardware config, OS build, etc... Regards, Brian Saadia Fatima wrote: How can I catch a system panic/freeze. I tried booting up with a kernel debugger, with -k option in the GRUB menu. When the system freezes how can I switch to the debugger? I tried f1+shift+a but it did not work. Thanks SF -- Brian Ruthven Solaris Network RPE (Sustaining) Oracle UK ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] // napp-it WebUI + NAS-appliance Online-Installer with OpenIndiana support
hello all i could not reproduce this problem on a new install. did you have this problem with napp-it 0.325_pre, installed with online-installer wget -O - www.napp-it.org/nappit-newest | perl up from this version, napp-it use sudo instead of pfexec, so the role should not matter (or am i wrong?) the only needed setting to run napp-it should be set in file /etc/sudoers and this should be done via online-installer: webservd ALL=(root) NOPASSWD: ALL and 0.325b_pre is available via this Installer: changelog: installer will install afp only once bugfix: installer did double user entries for webservd in user_attr, fixed on rerun installer usermanagement: hide system-user, change pw of admin only via passwd start smb on OpenIndiana: enable also idmap afp service-management on Opensolaris will show also avahi settings gea -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] // napp-it WebUI + NAS-appliance Online-Installer with OpenIndiana support
Thanks Casper. I reverted exec_attr and rolemod also just did it. Thanks, budy -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] // napp-it WebUI + NAS-appliance Online-Installer with OpenIndiana support
senti...@openindiana:/etc/security$ pfexec usermod -P 'Primary Administrator' webservd Works for me. senti...@openindiana:/etc/security$ uname -a SunOS openindiana 5.11 oi_147 i86pc i386 i86pc Solaris On Tue, Oct 12, 2010 at 02:38, wrote: > >>Hi, >> >>yesterday I tried to set up the webservd as requested and I removed the >>All:suser:cmd:::*:uid=0 from /etc/security/exec_attr, but after doing that I >>couldn't access any low level system function in napp-it, like viewing the >>discs or the zpools. > > All should be exacty like: > > All:suser:cmd:::*: > > If you change it, things will break. > >>usermod -P 'Primary Administrator' webservd didn't work either, >>which worked in snv134. In oi147 i > t barks like this to me: >> >>usermod -P 'Primary Administrator' webservd >>UX: usermod: ERROR: Roles must be modified with ``rolemod''. > > > So use rolemod. > > Casper > > ___ > opensolaris-discuss mailing list > opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org > -- " ' With the first link, the chain is forged. The first speech censured, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us all irrevocably.' Those words were uttered by Judge Aaron Satie as wisdom and warning... The first time any man's freedom is trodden on we’re all damaged." - Jean-Luc Picard, quoting Judge Aaron Satie, Star Trek: TNG episode "The Drumhead" - Alex Smith (K4RNT) - Murfreesboro, Tennessee USA ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] // napp-it WebUI + NAS-appliance Online-Installer with OpenIndiana support
>Hi, > >yesterday I tried to set up the webservd as requested and I removed the >All:suser:cmd:::*:uid=0 from /etc/security/exec_attr, but after doing that I >couldn't access any low level system function in napp-it, like viewing the >discs or the zpools. All should be exacty like: All:suser:cmd:::*: If you change it, things will break. >usermod -P 'Primary Administrator' webservd didn't work either, >which worked in snv134. In oi147 i t barks like this to me: > >usermod -P 'Primary Administrator' webservd >UX: usermod: ERROR: Roles must be modified with ``rolemod''. So use rolemod. Casper ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] // napp-it WebUI + NAS-appliance Online-Installer with OpenIndiana support
Hi, yesterday I tried to set up the webservd as requested and I removed the All:suser:cmd:::*:uid=0 from /etc/security/exec_attr, but after doing that I couldn't access any low level system function in napp-it, like viewing the discs or the zpools. usermod -P 'Primary Administrator' webservd didn't work either, which worked in snv134. In oi147 it barks like this to me: usermod -P 'Primary Administrator' webservd UX: usermod: ERROR: Roles must be modified with ``rolemod''. Thanks, budy -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
