Re: [osol-discuss] Update/patch policy?

2010-11-15 Thread Ian Collins

On 11/16/10 07:46 PM, Sean M. Brannon wrote:

Thank you for the answers guys. Not that I'm happy about their content. :-(
OpenSolaris and the future Solaris 11 had me interested in Solaris as a server 
platform again. Even though Oracle had bought it, and quashed OpenSolaris, I 
still felt Solaris could prove itself able to provide features that would be 
compelling enough to move away from Linux for certain workloads.
   


It still does, whether you consider they justify the cost of support 
only you can say.

Alas, it isn't to be I'm afraid. My work environment precludes the attachment 
to our network of any OS that could not be patched should security 
vulnerabilities arise.


So you wouldn't have been able to attach an OpenSolaris system either.


  Even on test machines. Much of the US Federal gov't has the same 
requirements; whether or not all admins adhere to the rules is another 
question. In any case, I'm not going to buy a support agreement in order to put 
up a test environment. And I'm not sure I want to deal with a vendor that won't 
provide patches for test machines. It doesn't speak well of the corporate 
culture and their attitude toward customers. Hell, even Microsoft provides 
updates and security patches with their 120-day evals.
   


I can't argue with that.  One would think customer feedback from an 
express program would be worth the cost of providing patched and updates.


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Re: [osol-discuss] Update/patch policy?

2010-11-15 Thread Sean M. Brannon
Thank you for the answers guys. Not that I'm happy about their content. :-(

My intent wasn't to use Solaris 11 Express in production. Or at least I 
wouldn't consider a home server as production. I wanted a chance to use Solaris 
11 and re-familiarize myself with Solaris in general, and thought putting it on 
a new server I was building for my home could be a step in that direction. A 
major advantage of doing this at home is that I would have to deal with the 
draconian computer security apparatus at work and the paperwork and testing 
that is required to attach computer systems to our network.  

I gave up on Solaris back around 8 as it didn't provide the proper value 
proposition for my environment. All of the developers I supported were moving 
or had moved to Linux. Our only need for Solaris was to provide a build 
environment as we still supported legacy systems for customers of our software.

OpenSolaris and the future Solaris 11 had me interested in Solaris as a server 
platform again. Even though Oracle had bought it, and quashed OpenSolaris, I 
still felt Solaris could prove itself able to provide features that would be 
compelling enough to move away from Linux for certain workloads.

Alas, it isn't to be I'm afraid. My work environment precludes the attachment 
to our network of any OS that could not be patched should security 
vulnerabilities arise. Even on test machines. Much of the US Federal gov't has 
the same requirements; whether or not all admins adhere to the rules is another 
question. In any case, I'm not going to buy a support agreement in order to put 
up a test environment. And I'm not sure I want to deal with a vendor that won't 
provide patches for test machines. It doesn't speak well of the corporate 
culture and their attitude toward customers. Hell, even Microsoft provides 
updates and security patches with their 120-day evals.
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Re: [osol-discuss] Update/patch policy?

2010-11-15 Thread Ian Collins

On 11/16/10 05:42 PM, Dave Koelmeyer wrote:

Sean M. Brannon wrote:
 

What is the update/patch policy for Express? i.e.
   

is an Oracle support contract required to gain access
to Solaris 11 Express software/security updates?

Yes.
 

Oh, awesome. More demo software.
   


If you don't like the conditions, don't use it!

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Re: [osol-discuss] Update/patch policy?

2010-11-15 Thread Alan Coopersmith
Dave Koelmeyer wrote:
>> Sean M. Brannon wrote:
>>> What is the update/patch policy for Express? i.e.
>> is an Oracle support contract required to gain access
>> to Solaris 11 Express software/security updates?
>>
>> Yes.
> 
> Oh, awesome. More demo software.

Free trial/evaluation software.   Like Solaris 10, production
use requires support contracts.

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Re: [osol-discuss] Update/patch policy?

2010-11-15 Thread Dave Koelmeyer
> Sean M. Brannon wrote:
> > What is the update/patch policy for Express? i.e.
> is an Oracle support contract required to gain access
> to Solaris 11 Express software/security updates?
> 
> Yes.

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Re: [osol-discuss] Update/patch policy?

2010-11-15 Thread Shawn Walker

On 11/15/10 05:35 PM, Sean M. Brannon wrote:

What is the update/patch policy for Express? i.e. is an Oracle support contract 
required to gain access to Solaris 11 Express software/security updates?

Page seven of the release notes refers to accessing information about updates:

For information about current security alerts and critical patch updates for 
Oracle Solaris, see

http://www.oracle.com/technology/deploy/security/alerts.htm.

However, I have been unable to find reference to the requirements necessary to 
receive software and security updates, nor even whether such updates are 
planned for Solaris 11 Express.

Anyone have an idea what the update policy is?


Your questions are answered in the FAQ linked from the Oracle Solaris 11 
Express page here:


http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/server-storage/solaris11/overview/index.html

See FAQ entries 11 and 36.

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Re: [osol-discuss] Update/patch policy?

2010-11-15 Thread Alan Coopersmith
Sean M. Brannon wrote:
> What is the update/patch policy for Express? i.e. is an Oracle support 
> contract required to gain access to Solaris 11 Express software/security 
> updates?

Yes.

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Re: [osol-discuss] Map snv_ versions into release versions

2010-11-15 Thread Paul Gress

On 11/15/10 12:35 PM, Miguel Garcia wrote:

Thanks, I understand that, but if I need to find a OpenSolaris release as 
described in http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenSolaris#Version_history how can I 
do it for a given svn_ ?

Or from your explanation it is legitimate to say that NVD affected versions are 
only the developing versions?



Enter at the prompt "cat /etc/release"


For example:



bash-4.0$ cat /etc/release
  Oracle Solaris 11 Express snv_151a X86
 Copyright (c) 2010, Oracle and/or its affiliates.  All rights reserved.
   Assembled 04 November 2010
bash-4.0$




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[osol-discuss] Update/patch policy?

2010-11-15 Thread Sean M. Brannon
What is the update/patch policy for Express? i.e. is an Oracle support contract 
required to gain access to Solaris 11 Express software/security updates?

Page seven of the release notes refers to accessing information about updates:

For information about current security alerts and critical patch updates for 
Oracle Solaris, see

http://www.oracle.com/technology/deploy/security/alerts.htm.

However, I have been unable to find reference to the requirements necessary to 
receive software and security updates, nor even whether such updates are 
planned for Solaris 11 Express.

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Re: [osol-discuss] PAM Error (/etc/pam.conf no initial module present)

2010-11-15 Thread Patrick O'Sullivan
Took a different approach. I started with the baseline /etc/pam.conf
and began adding Kerberos lines to it rather than trying to figure out
what part of my config was wrong. Now, auth works and no more errors!

On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 7:50 PM, Patrick O'Sullivan
 wrote:
> Thanks for the idea. I will see how I can go about that.
>
> I just downloaded Solaris 11 Express and duplicated the error. Auth
> works, but same message at every login.
>
> On Sun, Nov 14, 2010 at 4:57 AM, Chris Ridd  wrote:
>>
>> On 14 Nov 2010, at 00:15, Patrick O'Sullivan wrote:
>>
>>> Hello all,
>>>
>>> I successfully have gotten authentication to an AD Kerberos server
>>> working along with uid/gid resolution from AD LDAP. However, I am
>>> getting a strange PAM error and the only reference I can find for it
>>> is in the OpenSolaris PAM source code.
>>>
>>> r...@oitest1:~# uname -a
>>> SunOS oitest1 5.11 oi_147 i86pc i386 i86pc Solaris
>>>
>>> Now, logging in from another machine:
>>>
>>> $ ssh user...@oitest1
>>> Password:
>>> Your Kerberos account/password will expire in 9801 days.
>>>
>>>
>>> Last login: Sat Nov 13 13:42:30 2010 from 10.128.6.55
>>> OpenIndiana     SunOS 5.11      oi_147  September 2010
>>> -bash-4.0$ id
>>> uid=20002(userfoo) gid=3(staff)
>>> -bash-4.0$ getent passwd userfoo
>>> userfoo:x:20002:3:User Foo:/home/userfoo:/bin/bash
>>>
>>> Now, the weird part. At the time of logging in, I get the following log 
>>> entry:
>>>
>>> Nov 13 13:45:25 oitest1 sshd[3925]: [ID 414352 auth.error]
>>> /etc/pam.conf no initial module present
>>> Nov 13 13:47:09 oitest1 last message repeated 3 times
>>> Nov 13 13:47:11 oitest1 sshd[3945]: [ID 414352 auth.error]
>>> /etc/pam.conf no initial module present
>>>
>>> Here's my /etc/pam.conf:
>>>
>>> r...@oitest1:~# egrep -v "^\#" /etc/pam.conf
>>> login   auth requisite          pam_authtok_get.so.1
>>> login   auth required           pam_dhkeys.so.1
>>> login   auth required           pam_unix_cred.so.1
>>> login   auth sufficient         pam_krb5.so.1
>>> login   auth required           pam_unix_auth.so.1
>>> login   auth required           pam_dial_auth.so.1
>>> other   auth requisite          pam_authtok_get.so.1
>>> other   auth required           pam_dhkeys.so.1
>>> other   auth required           pam_unix_cred.so.1
>>> other   auth sufficient         pam_krb5.so.1
>>> other   auth required           pam_unix_auth.so.1
>>> other   account requisite       pam_roles.so.1
>>> other   account required        pam_unix_account.so.1
>>> other   account required        pam_krb5.so.1
>>> other   password required       pam_dhkeys.so.1
>>> other   password requisite      pam_authtok_get.so.1
>>> other   password requisite      pam_authtok_check.so.1
>>> other   password sufficient     pam_krb5.so.1
>>> other   password required       pam_authtok_store.so.1
>>>
>>> P.S. I also get this when logging in directly from console, except the
>>> error is associated with login instead of sshd.
>>>
>>> Anyone have any thoughts? Thanks in advance.
>>
>> No real ideas - pam's a bit of a mystery to me - but could you get dtrace to 
>> help? Get a stack trace on the failing call to run_stack (which is what 
>> outputs that error) and maybe that gives an idea of which part of pam.conf 
>> is wrong.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Chris
>>
>>
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Re: [osol-discuss] Map snv_ versions into release versions

2010-11-15 Thread Miguel Garcia
Thanks, I understand that, but if I need to find a OpenSolaris release 
as described in http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenSolaris#Version_history 
how can I do it for a given svn_ ?


Or from your explanation it is legitimate to say that NVD affected 
versions are only the developing versions?


thanks

On 11/15/2010 05:30 PM, ken mays wrote:


--- On Mon, 11/15/10, Albert Lee  wrote:


From: Albert Lee
Subject: Re: [osol-discuss] Map snv_ versions into release versions
To: "Miguel Garcia"
Cc: opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Date: Monday, November 15, 2010, 11:23 AM
On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 10:21 AM,
Miguel Garcia

wrote:

I'm working with NVD (national vulnerability database)

when they refer a OpenSolaris version they use snv_XX but I
need to match this snv_ to a real version ("donwloadable")


These are the build numbers of OpenSolaris and upcoming
Solaris 11
Express (as well as older Solaris Express) releases, which
follow the
build number of the core OS/Net component; "snv" is the
Solaris Nevada
codename for ON development.

The latest released build from Oracle is 134 as
"OpenSolaris
development build 134", while ON source is available up to
147 and
other distributions are based on the newer source.

-Albert

Solaris 11 (SNV_151) is the new official public release with its updated IPS 
repo images. The 153 consolidations are also available.

~ Ken Mays





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Re: [osol-discuss] PAM Error (/etc/pam.conf no initial module present)

2010-11-15 Thread Patrick O'Sullivan
Thanks for the idea. I will see how I can go about that.

I just downloaded Solaris 11 Express and duplicated the error. Auth
works, but same message at every login.

On Sun, Nov 14, 2010 at 4:57 AM, Chris Ridd  wrote:
>
> On 14 Nov 2010, at 00:15, Patrick O'Sullivan wrote:
>
>> Hello all,
>>
>> I successfully have gotten authentication to an AD Kerberos server
>> working along with uid/gid resolution from AD LDAP. However, I am
>> getting a strange PAM error and the only reference I can find for it
>> is in the OpenSolaris PAM source code.
>>
>> r...@oitest1:~# uname -a
>> SunOS oitest1 5.11 oi_147 i86pc i386 i86pc Solaris
>>
>> Now, logging in from another machine:
>>
>> $ ssh user...@oitest1
>> Password:
>> Your Kerberos account/password will expire in 9801 days.
>>
>>
>> Last login: Sat Nov 13 13:42:30 2010 from 10.128.6.55
>> OpenIndiana     SunOS 5.11      oi_147  September 2010
>> -bash-4.0$ id
>> uid=20002(userfoo) gid=3(staff)
>> -bash-4.0$ getent passwd userfoo
>> userfoo:x:20002:3:User Foo:/home/userfoo:/bin/bash
>>
>> Now, the weird part. At the time of logging in, I get the following log 
>> entry:
>>
>> Nov 13 13:45:25 oitest1 sshd[3925]: [ID 414352 auth.error]
>> /etc/pam.conf no initial module present
>> Nov 13 13:47:09 oitest1 last message repeated 3 times
>> Nov 13 13:47:11 oitest1 sshd[3945]: [ID 414352 auth.error]
>> /etc/pam.conf no initial module present
>>
>> Here's my /etc/pam.conf:
>>
>> r...@oitest1:~# egrep -v "^\#" /etc/pam.conf
>> login   auth requisite          pam_authtok_get.so.1
>> login   auth required           pam_dhkeys.so.1
>> login   auth required           pam_unix_cred.so.1
>> login   auth sufficient         pam_krb5.so.1
>> login   auth required           pam_unix_auth.so.1
>> login   auth required           pam_dial_auth.so.1
>> other   auth requisite          pam_authtok_get.so.1
>> other   auth required           pam_dhkeys.so.1
>> other   auth required           pam_unix_cred.so.1
>> other   auth sufficient         pam_krb5.so.1
>> other   auth required           pam_unix_auth.so.1
>> other   account requisite       pam_roles.so.1
>> other   account required        pam_unix_account.so.1
>> other   account required        pam_krb5.so.1
>> other   password required       pam_dhkeys.so.1
>> other   password requisite      pam_authtok_get.so.1
>> other   password requisite      pam_authtok_check.so.1
>> other   password sufficient     pam_krb5.so.1
>> other   password required       pam_authtok_store.so.1
>>
>> P.S. I also get this when logging in directly from console, except the
>> error is associated with login instead of sshd.
>>
>> Anyone have any thoughts? Thanks in advance.
>
> No real ideas - pam's a bit of a mystery to me - but could you get dtrace to 
> help? Get a stack trace on the failing call to run_stack (which is what 
> outputs that error) and maybe that gives an idea of which part of pam.conf is 
> wrong.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Chris
>
>
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Re: [osol-discuss] Solaris 11 Express is out

2010-11-15 Thread Richard L. Hamilton
> It's likely that it will work for you if you install
> from the text 
> installer media, but automated installation requires
> that level of OBP.

I'd have to use a text-based installer anyway, since
anything that no longer includes Xsun won't support anything
other than an XVR-100 that would work on that system, at
least not out of the box. (I think I do have an XVR-100, somewhere;
big step down from an XVR-1000, though.)
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Re: [osol-discuss] Solaris 11 Express is out

2010-11-15 Thread Mike Gerdts
On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 1:03 PM, Karel Gardas  wrote:
> interesting would be to know if the upgrade from OS 2009.06 is working well 
> or not.

I haven't tried that exact path, but I have image-update'd from
OpenIndiana to something that looks quite similar to Solaris 11
Express (build 150 instead of 151a)  I've been using the machine on
which I did this as my primary machine for a couple weeks now without
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Re: [osol-discuss] Solaris 11 Express is out

2010-11-15 Thread Dave Miner

On 11/15/10 04:20 PM, Richard L. Hamilton wrote:

Well you know some of us home users aren't going to be happy.

*Supported on sun4v and sun4u based systems with OBP
(Open Boot PROM) level 4.17 or higher.


$ uname -a;prtdiag -v|tail -2
SunOS paradox 5.11 snv_97 sun4u sparc SUNW,Sun-Blade-1000
OBP 4.16.4 2004/12/18 05:18
POST 4.16.3 2004/11/05 20:02

...so I suppose I have to wait for the source release, and for someone
(or do it myself - not likely) to do something about that restriction.

Ouch.

That's the latest OBP firmware for that hardware, AFAIK; and
the Sun Blade 1000, 2000, Sun Fire 280R, and Netra 20 would all
be affected.

Ironically, my Sun Blade 100 (a wimp by comparison) has 4.17.1, so it's
ok.  The one I don't want to upgrade, I can, and the good one is orphaned.

Blech.


It's likely that it will work for you if you install from the text 
installer media, but automated installation requires that level of OBP.


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Re: [osol-discuss] Solaris 11 Express is out

2010-11-15 Thread Glynn Foster


On 16/11/2010, at 9:50 AM, Nicholas George wrote:


On 15 November 2010 17:13, Paul Griffith  wrote:

http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/server-storage/solaris11/index.html
http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/server-storage/solaris11/downloads/index.html


Can someone post the MD1 and SHA256 hashes for the ISO files, please?


http://opensolaris.pastebin.ca/1992347

We're just in the process of  getting these posted to the Download page.


Glynn

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Re: [osol-discuss] Solaris 11 Express is out

2010-11-15 Thread Richard L. Hamilton
Well you know some of us home users aren't going to be happy.
>*Supported on sun4v and sun4u based systems with OBP
>(Open Boot PROM) level 4.17 or higher.

$ uname -a;prtdiag -v|tail -2
SunOS paradox 5.11 snv_97 sun4u sparc SUNW,Sun-Blade-1000
OBP 4.16.4 2004/12/18 05:18
POST 4.16.3 2004/11/05 20:02

...so I suppose I have to wait for the source release, and for someone
(or do it myself - not likely) to do something about that restriction.

Ouch. 

That's the latest OBP firmware for that hardware, AFAIK; and
the Sun Blade 1000, 2000, Sun Fire 280R, and Netra 20 would all
be affected.

Ironically, my Sun Blade 100 (a wimp by comparison) has 4.17.1, so it's
ok.  The one I don't want to upgrade, I can, and the good one is orphaned.

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Re: [osol-discuss] Solaris 11 Express is out

2010-11-15 Thread Nicholas George
On 15 November 2010 17:13, Paul Griffith  wrote:
> http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/server-storage/solaris11/index.html
> http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/server-storage/solaris11/downloads/index.html

Can someone post the MD1 and SHA256 hashes for the ISO files, please?

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Re: [osol-discuss] Solaris 11 Express is out

2010-11-15 Thread Paul Gress

On 11/15/10 02:03 PM, Karel Gardas wrote:

interesting would be to know if the upgrade from OS 2009.06 is working well or 
not.

Karel



Yes, I just finished upgrading from Opensolaris b134 (note, NOT b134b).  It 
booted up fine.  You just have to follow the instructions in the release notes. 
 For you, you'll have to upgrade Opensolaris to b134b, Oracle has updated the 
Development release to b134 to allow upgrading to Solaris Express.


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Re: [osol-discuss] Solaris 11 Express is out

2010-11-15 Thread Shawn Walker

On 11/15/10 11:03 AM, Karel Gardas wrote:

interesting would be to know if the upgrade from OS 2009.06 is working well or 
not.


Yes, the process is described here and was noted in the release 
announcement:


http://docs.sun.com/app/docs/doc/821-1479/gklaa?l=en&a=view

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Re: [osol-discuss] Solaris 11 Express is out

2010-11-15 Thread Pablo León
Hi Glynn

Those are good news.

Now OpenIndiana at home and Solaris 11 at work  ;)

What I haven't seen (not much time anyway) is the migration path for those on 
b134.

Will it be 134.0.2 on pkg.opensolaris.org, 
and then to 151 on pkg.oracle.com/solaris/relese ?

regards
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Re: [osol-discuss] Solaris 11 Express is out

2010-11-15 Thread Karel Gardas
interesting would be to know if the upgrade from OS 2009.06 is working well or 
not.

Karel
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Re: [osol-discuss] Map snv_ versions into release versions

2010-11-15 Thread Alan Coopersmith
Miguel Garcia wrote:
> I'm working with NVD (national vulnerability database) when they refer a 
> OpenSolaris version they use snv_XX but I need to match this snv_ to a real 
> version ("donwloadable")

The snv_XXX were biweekly development builds - each was available for
download at the time as a fully installable ISO or updated packages
from the pkg repository.   Some of the per-build ISO's should still be
available from genunix.org.

The stable releases that came out once or twice a year were "respins"
of selected development builds with some critical fixes applied.
They were given the dated version names, and placed in the /release
package repository as well.

Those were:
OpenSolaris 2008.05 snv_86
OpenSolaris 2008.11 snv_101
OpenSolaris 2009.06 snv_111

The /release repo also contains snv_134b, which would have been the
OpenSolaris 2010.0x release, but it was never released as a separate
version.

snv_151a was just published today, but under the new name, license,
& release model of "Oracle Solaris 11 Express 2010.11".

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Re: [osol-discuss] Map snv_ versions into release versions

2010-11-15 Thread Albert Lee
On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 12:35 PM, Miguel Garcia
 wrote:
> Thanks, I understand that, but if I need to find a OpenSolaris release as
> described in http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenSolaris#Version_history how
> can I do it for a given svn_ ?
>
> Or from your explanation it is legitimate to say that NVD affected versions
> are only the developing versions?
>
> thanks
>

All of the intermediate builds, and later builds up to 134 were
considered development releases and are available in the package
repository and as installer images (mirrored on http://genunix.org/ ).
134b is only available in the package repository. The distinction
between production and development releases is largely meaningless
now.

-Alber
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Re: [osol-discuss] Map snv_ versions into release versions

2010-11-15 Thread ken mays


--- On Mon, 11/15/10, Albert Lee  wrote:

> From: Albert Lee 
> Subject: Re: [osol-discuss] Map snv_ versions into release versions
> To: "Miguel Garcia" 
> Cc: opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
> Date: Monday, November 15, 2010, 11:23 AM
> On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 10:21 AM,
> Miguel Garcia
> 
> wrote:
> > I'm working with NVD (national vulnerability database)
> when they refer a OpenSolaris version they use snv_XX but I
> need to match this snv_ to a real version ("donwloadable")
> 
> 
> These are the build numbers of OpenSolaris and upcoming
> Solaris 11
> Express (as well as older Solaris Express) releases, which
> follow the
> build number of the core OS/Net component; "snv" is the
> Solaris Nevada
> codename for ON development.
> 
> The latest released build from Oracle is 134 as
> "OpenSolaris
> development build 134", while ON source is available up to
> 147 and
> other distributions are based on the newer source.
> 
> -Albert

Solaris 11 (SNV_151) is the new official public release with its updated IPS 
repo images. The 153 consolidations are also available.

~ Ken Mays


  
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Re: [osol-discuss] Map snv_ versions into release versions

2010-11-15 Thread Albert Lee
On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 11:37 AM, John Weekley  wrote:
> On 11/15/2010 10:23 AM, Albert Lee wrote:
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 10:21 AM, Miguel Garcia
>>   wrote:
>>>
>>> I'm working with NVD (national vulnerability database) when they refer a
>>> OpenSolaris version they use snv_XX but I need to match this snv_ to a real
>>> version ("donwloadable")
>>
>> These are the build numbers of OpenSolaris and upcoming Solaris 11
>> Express (as well as older Solaris Express) releases, which follow the
>> build number of the core OS/Net component; "snv" is the Solaris Nevada
>> codename for ON development.
>>
>> The latest released build from Oracle is 134 as "OpenSolaris
>> development build 134", while ON source is available up to 147 and
>> other distributions are based on the newer source.
>>
>> -Albert
>>
> Looks like the latest "Express" version is build 151
>

Yeah, good timing. The just-released Solaris 11 Express is snv_151a.
pkg.opensolaris.org/release was updated with 134b as an upgrade path
for current OpenSolaris users.

-Albert
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Re: [osol-discuss] Solaris 11 Express is out

2010-11-15 Thread Edward Ned Harvey
> From: opensolaris-discuss-boun...@opensolaris.org [mailto:opensolaris-
> discuss-boun...@opensolaris.org] On Behalf Of Paul Griffith
> 
> Solaris 11 Express:

>From the What's New:  (Amongst many other things)
http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/server-storage/solaris11/documentation/sol
aris-express-whatsnew-201011-175308.pdf

Image Packaging System (IPS) is a new network based package management
system included in Oracle Solaris 11 Express 2010.11. 

IPS includes a number of command-line utilities including pkg(1) and
graphical tools

UFS is no longer supported as a root filesystem

ZFS deduplication support has been added

ZFS Diff:  Users with the appropriate privilege can now view what file and
directory level changes have occurred between snapshots, such as files or
directories added, removed, modified or renamed in a later snapshot.



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Re: [osol-discuss] Solaris 11 Express is out

2010-11-15 Thread Glynn Foster


On 16/11/2010, at 5:49 AM, Edward Ned Harvey wrote:

From: opensolaris-discuss-boun...@opensolaris.org  
[mailto:opensolaris-

discuss-boun...@opensolaris.org] On Behalf Of Paul Griffith

Solaris 11 Express:

http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/server-storage/solaris11/index.html
http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/server-
storage/solaris11/downloads/index.html


It looks like they're releasing it free, for development purposes  
only.  I

wonder about open source...

The one other thing that's unclear is what to do if you want to use  
it for
more than just development purposes.  I could be reading this wrong,  
but it
looks like you can purchase "Support for Operating Systems," and it  
seems to
include any Oracle OS.  Solaris.  (Express?)  Linux.  And Oracle  
VM.  Seems

to be one price, for any OS.


That's correct. Oracle Solaris 11 Express is covered under Oracle's  
existing Premier Support and Oracle Solaris Premier Subscription  
support agreements.



Glynn
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Re: [osol-discuss] Solaris 11 Express is out

2010-11-15 Thread Edward Ned Harvey
> From: opensolaris-discuss-boun...@opensolaris.org [mailto:opensolaris-
> discuss-boun...@opensolaris.org] On Behalf Of Paul Griffith
> 
> Solaris 11 Express:
> 
> http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/server-storage/solaris11/index.html
> http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/server-
> storage/solaris11/downloads/index.html

It looks like they're releasing it free, for development purposes only.  I
wonder about open source...  

The one other thing that's unclear is what to do if you want to use it for
more than just development purposes.  I could be reading this wrong, but it
looks like you can purchase "Support for Operating Systems," and it seems to
include any Oracle OS.  Solaris.  (Express?)  Linux.  And Oracle VM.  Seems
to be one price, for any OS.

If you go to the download page for sol11exp, and you click on "overview"
instead of "download," then they list "Support for Operating Systems" under
"solaris 11 express" under "support."

>From the OTN License Agreement:
we grant you a perpetual [...], nonexclusive, nontransferable, limited
License to use the Programs only for the purpose of developing, testing,
prototyping and demonstrating your applications, and not for any other
purpose.

All rights not expressly granted above are hereby reserved. If you want to
use the Programs for any purpose other than as permitted under this
agreement, [...] you must obtain a valid license permitting such use.

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Re: [osol-discuss] Map snv_ versions into release versions

2010-11-15 Thread John Weekley

On 11/15/2010 10:23 AM, Albert Lee wrote:

On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 10:21 AM, Miguel Garcia
  wrote:

I'm working with NVD (national vulnerability database) when they refer a OpenSolaris 
version they use snv_XX but I need to match this snv_ to a real version 
("donwloadable")


These are the build numbers of OpenSolaris and upcoming Solaris 11
Express (as well as older Solaris Express) releases, which follow the
build number of the core OS/Net component; "snv" is the Solaris Nevada
codename for ON development.

The latest released build from Oracle is 134 as "OpenSolaris
development build 134", while ON source is available up to 147 and
other distributions are based on the newer source.

-Albert


Looks like the latest "Express" version is build 151


John

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Re: [osol-discuss] Map snv_ versions into release versions

2010-11-15 Thread Albert Lee
On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 10:21 AM, Miguel Garcia
 wrote:
> I'm working with NVD (national vulnerability database) when they refer a 
> OpenSolaris version they use snv_XX but I need to match this snv_ to a real 
> version ("donwloadable")


These are the build numbers of OpenSolaris and upcoming Solaris 11
Express (as well as older Solaris Express) releases, which follow the
build number of the core OS/Net component; "snv" is the Solaris Nevada
codename for ON development.

The latest released build from Oracle is 134 as "OpenSolaris
development build 134", while ON source is available up to 147 and
other distributions are based on the newer source.

-Albert
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[osol-discuss] Solaris 11 Express is out

2010-11-15 Thread Paul Griffith

Solaris 11 Express:

http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/server-storage/solaris11/index.html
http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/server-storage/solaris11/downloads/index.html


-- 
Paul Griffith |CSE Technical Team
Dept. of Computer Science and Engineering - York University
Tel: 416-736-2100 x70258|Fax: 416-736-5872
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[osol-discuss] Map snv_ versions into release versions

2010-11-15 Thread Miguel Garcia
I'm working with NVD (national vulnerability database) when they refer a 
OpenSolaris version they use snv_XX but I need to match this snv_ to a real 
version ("donwloadable")
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