[osol-discuss] Best place for installation of add-on apps

2008-11-17 Thread Paweł Tęcza
Hello People,

I've googled a lot and I'm confused, because I still don't know what the 
best place for installation of add-on apps under OpenSolaris is.

For example, I want to compile and install some free software/open 
source like OpenVPN or memtest86+. What prefix should I type for 
configure script? /usr/local? /opt/local? /opt/sfw? /opt/appname?

What do you recommend me? Is it something like OpenSolaris way?

My best regards,

Pawel Tecza

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Re: [osol-discuss] Best place for installation of add-on apps

2008-11-17 Thread Paweł Tęcza
Shawn Walker pisze:
 Paweł Tęcza wrote:
 Hello People,
 
 I've googled a lot and I'm confused, because I still don't know what the 
 best place for installation of add-on apps under OpenSolaris is.
 
 For example, I want to compile and install some free software/open 
 source like OpenVPN or memtest86+. What prefix should I type for 
 configure script? /usr/local? /opt/local? /opt/sfw? /opt/appname?
 
 What do you recommend me? Is it something like OpenSolaris way?
 
 My best regards,
 
  From man filesystem:
 
   /usr/local
 
   Not part of the  SVR4-based  Solaris  distribution.  The
   /usr  directory is exclusively for software bundled with
   the Solaris operating  system.  If  needed  for  storing
   machine-local  add-on  software,  create  the  directory
   /opt/local  and  make  /usr/local  a  symbolic  link  to
   /opt/local.  The  /opt  directory  or  filesystem is for
   storing add-on software to the system.
 
 If this is unpackaged software, that's where I'd put it.

Hi Shawn,

Thanks a lot for your reply! Do the rest of you agree that /opt/local
is the best location for that kind of software? ;)

Have a nice day,

P.

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Re: [osol-discuss] Best place for installation of add-on apps

2008-11-17 Thread Paweł Tęcza
Dnia 2008-11-17, pon o godzinie 13:08 -0500, Mike Meyer pisze:
 On Mon, 17 Nov 2008 18:05:35 +0100
 Paweł Tęcza [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Thanks a lot for your reply! Do the rest of you agree that /opt/local
  is the best location for that kind of software? ;)
 
 Yes, but create the symlink for /usr/local before you start installing
 things. A lot of open source software stayed with /usr/local, and may
 not move easily, so I wouldn't bother trying.

Hello Mike,

Thank you very much for the hint! Fortunately I've installed only one
add-on app. It's OpenVPN and I've put it into /opt/openvpn-2.0.9,
because someone recommended me that location :)

 BTW, did you know that both openvpn and memtest86+ are in the netbsd
 pkgsrc system, which works on both Solaris and OpenSolaris? It comes
 with a robust, flexible build system and hence has generated one of
 the more impressive lists of available applications.

Thanks for the info! It's good to know it. I dream about official
OpenSolaris IPS repo with all software I need to use. Just like
Debian/Ubuntu repos :D

I installed OpenVPN from IPS Blastwave repo, but I have a problem with
running TAP driver, probably because of Solaris patch (more details you
can find in archives of networking-discuss [1] and laptop-discuss
mailing lists). So I'm trying now with vanilla OpenVPN sources.

I know that SchilliX Live CD has memtest86 utility (I'm not sure whether
it's memtest86 or memtest86+), but I don't want to download huge .iso
file for only one tool.

My best regards,

P.


[1] http://www.opensolaris.org/jive/thread.jspa?threadID=76963tstart=0
[2] http://www.opensolaris.org/jive/thread.jspa?threadID=82582tstart=0


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Re: [osol-discuss] [OT] was Re: The future of the IPS system

2008-10-24 Thread Paweł Tęcza
Martin Bochnig pisze:

 You folks are talking, talking, talking.
 I work on real code, but nobody wants to help me (in whatever[!]) way.
 Rename it from Developer community to chatting community.

Hello Martin,

Are you surprised? I'm not. I was watching that long and hot thread
and my comment is following: I can agree with your arguments and even 
believe you that Conary is great package system for OpenSolaris,
but unfortunately your aggressive and uncultured style of discuss can be 
discouraging for many people here. Do you talk with people in real world 
in the same way? I doubt about it. So, if you really want Conary 
success, then you should be its better advocate...

Have a nice day,

Pawel

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Re: [osol-discuss] The pool is formatted using an older on-disk format.

2008-10-22 Thread Paweł Tęcza
[EMAIL PROTECTED] pisze:
If I'll upgrade the pool under my new BE, then I'm not able to boot
my laptop using old BE, because it doesn't support new version of ZFS. 
Am I right?

 If the old BE doesn't support the new ZFS version, then indeed you can't
 boot.

Hi,

Thanks a lot for the confirmation! :)

Have a nice day,

P.

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Re: [osol-discuss] SOLVED: Image update without a clone of current BE?

2008-10-21 Thread Paweł Tęcza
Paweł Tęcza pisze:
 Hello All,
 
 I would like to upgrade OSOL from build 96 to build 99 on my old laptop.
 Unfortunately I have a small Solaris partition and upgrading process 
 failed because free disk space is not enough.

Hi again,

The problem has been solved. It was pretty simple. I did the following
steps:

1. Make backup of /etc and my home directory using `tar  scp`
2. Decrease a size of Linux partition with Ubuntu and increase a size
of OSOL partition by GParted
3. Install OSOL 2008.11 build 96 again
4. Image upgrade using `pkg image-update`

Now I have OSOL 2008.11 build 99 finally. I like it, because it looks
very nice :)

Cheers,

P.

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[osol-discuss] The pool is formatted using an older on-disk format.

2008-10-21 Thread Paweł Tęcza
Hello Folks,

After successfully OSOL upgrade (b96 - b99) I can see the following
result displayed by `zpool status` command:

# zpool status
   pool: rpool
  state: ONLINE
status: The pool is formatted using an older on-disk format.  The pool can
 still be used, but some features are unavailable.
action: Upgrade the pool using 'zpool upgrade'.  Once this is done, the
 pool will no longer be accessible on older software versions.
  scrub: none requested
config:

 NAMESTATE READ WRITE CKSUM
 rpool   ONLINE   0 0 0
   c3d0s0ONLINE   0 0 0

errors: No known data errors

I'm glad that I don't have any errors, but I'm not sure it's serious
problem that my pool is formatted using an older on-disk format.

Can I ignore that warning or rather I should do `zpool upgrade`?
What's your opinion? I ask you, because I don't want to break my
new and warm OSOL image :)

Best regards,

Pawel

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Re: [osol-discuss] The pool is formatted using an older on-disk format.

2008-10-21 Thread Paweł Tęcza
[EMAIL PROTECTED] pisze:

I'm glad that I don't have any errors, but I'm not sure it's serious
problem that my pool is formatted using an older on-disk format.

Can I ignore that warning or rather I should do `zpool upgrade`?
What's your opinion? I ask you, because I don't want to break my
new and warm OSOL image :)

Hello Casper,

At first, thank you very much for your feedback!

 If you have multiple boot environments, make sure that you don't upgrade
 zfs beyond the highest version supported by all boot environments.
 (e.g, when using liveupgrade and such)

Now I have 2 BEs: old (opensolaris) and new (opensolaris-1):

# beadm list
BEActive Mountpoint Space  Policy Created
---- -- -  -- ---
opensolaris   -  -  22.87M static 2008-10-20 18:47
opensolaris-1 NR /  5.28G  static 2008-10-21 11:51

My new BE seems to be OK, so probably I can destroy the old BE
to save my disk space.

 But beyond that, it's better to upgrade; typically, whenever I upgrade to 
 a newer Solaris version, I upgrade BEFORE booting in the new boot 
 environment.  (So I'm sure that both still support the zfs version)

It's too late ;) I've just booted the laptop in the new BE.

If I'll upgrade the pool under my new BE, then I'm not able to boot
my laptop using old BE, because it doesn't support new version of ZFS. 
Am I right?

Have a nice day,

P.

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Re: [osol-discuss] The pool is formatted using an older on-disk format.

2008-10-21 Thread Paweł Tęcza
john kroll pisze:
 Doesn't a primary bios partition separate your zfs pool from anything else??

Hi John,

I'm not sure I understand your question well. I have the following
partitions on my disk:

1. Primary for Ubuntu
2. Primary for Solaris
3. Extended for Ubuntu swap

The first partition I can see as /dev/hda1 under Ubuntu. The second
as /dev/hda2. The third probably as /dev/hda5, I don't remember exactly
and don't want to check it now.

My best regards,

P.
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[osol-discuss] Image update without a clone of current BE?

2008-10-20 Thread Paweł Tęcza
Hello All,

I would like to upgrade OSOL from build 96 to build 99 on my old laptop.
Unfortunately I have a small Solaris partition and upgrading process 
failed because free disk space is not enough.

I've read in OSOL docs that `pkg image-update` command creates a clone
of current BE by default. I don't know neither it's possible to disable 
it nor how to do it. However I've also read about upgrading packages
by `pkg install` command.

So I have a question: is it a good idea to upgrade my current image 
using following commands?

# pkg list |grep installed |awk '{print $1}' |\
   xargs -I PKG xargs pkg install PKG

I know that it's rather risky method, but probably I don't have another 
way out :)

I was just trying installation of OSOL build 99 from scratch using
Live CD, but no success. That installation application also fails on
my laptop and I can only install OSOL build 96.

My best regards,

Pawel

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