Re: [osol-discuss] [indiana-discuss] So when are we gonna fork this sucker?
On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 5:30 PM, George Koutras koutra...@yahoo.com wrote: I start shivering to the idea that oracle might drop opensolaris or keep developing only the Openstorage required portions of it, and adding to that the sudden silence in indiana-discuss from @oracle.com @sun.com (last email on Friday 9/4), lets hope we will not be forced to move to bsd or linux world ( really outdated OSes compared to (open)solaris ). Please save the project. George Hello, if you look at other (technical) lists, then there is no Sunacle-silence, but real work. http://mail.opensolaris.org/pipermail/pkg-discuss/2010-April/date.html http://mail.opensolaris.org/pipermail/caiman-discuss/2010-April/date.html http://mail.opensolaris.org/pipermail/on-ips-dev/2010-April/date.html http://mail.opensolaris.org/pipermail/zones-discuss/2010-April/date.html http://mail.opensolaris.org/pipermail/zfs-discuss/2010-April/date.html http://mail.opensolaris.org/pipermail/zfs-code/2010-April/001101.html And these are just quick examples which I took together in 5 minutes ... So, PLEASE do me the favor and wait before you jump on that OpenSolarisMustBeSaved badwagon. Otherwise you end up in unintentionally harming it more (by replying to guesswork), than you serve it. Thanks. %mab From: Jennifer Pioch piochjenni...@googlemail.com To: Chad Welsh unixphr...@mac.com Cc: laptop-disc...@opensolaris.org; opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org; Indiana Discuss indiana-disc...@opensolaris.org Sent: Wed, April 14, 2010 4:52:34 PM Subject: Re: [indiana-discuss] [osol-discuss] So when are we gonna fork this sucker? On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 3:44 PM, Chad Welsh unixphr...@mac.com wrote: Well we have heard from one of the OGB members about forking this project to save it from the hands of [b]HOracle[/b] the multi-headed, voracious, open source devouring monster. So, when and who might be the first step/person to make this happen to protect what has been done so far? A full fork can only be made if the internationalisation parts of libc are released as open source. Either we have to call the TOG (The Open Group) for source license, wait that Roland Mainz releases his version or find a suitable substitute. And then forking the hell outta here. Jenny -- Jennifer Pioch, Uni Frankfurt ___ indiana-discuss mailing list indiana-disc...@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/indiana-discuss ___ indiana-discuss mailing list indiana-disc...@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/indiana-discuss ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] [indiana-discuss] So when are we gonna fork this sucker?
George Koutras wrote: the sudden silence in indiana-discuss from @oracle.com @sun.com (last email on Friday 9/4), You need to check your mail filters. The archives show mail to indiana-discuss from oracle.com addresses since then (April 12 as most recent, since yesterday seems to have been quiet, but that will change as soon as I click Send on this). -- -Alan Coopersmith-alan.coopersm...@oracle.com Oracle Solaris Platform Engineering: X Window System ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] [indiana-discuss] So when are we gonna fork this sucker?
Just a completely different question...is there any plans for btrfs ? Will ZFS and btrfs co-exist or there's a chance that the less used one would be dropped? Thanks, Bruno On 14-4-2010 16:50, Alan Coopersmith wrote: George Koutras wrote: the sudden silence in indiana-discuss from @oracle.com @sun.com (last email on Friday 9/4), You need to check your mail filters. The archives show mail to indiana-discuss from oracle.com addresses since then (April 12 as most recent, since yesterday seems to have been quiet, but that will change as soon as I click Send on this). smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] [indiana-discuss] So when are we gonna fork this sucker?
Just a completely different question...is there any plans for btrfs ? Will ZFS and btrfs co-exist or there's a chance that the less used one would be dropped? Which OS supports both? Linux support brtfs, Solaris supports ZFS. Casper ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] [indiana-discuss] So when are we gonna fork this sucker?
What ever happens to (Open)Solaris the new version of Solaris (Solaris Next again Oracle Welcome Session) will surly be based of OpenSolaris.. I guess the only key word will be Open Andrew George Koutras wrote: I start shivering to the idea that oracle might drop opensolaris or keep developing only the Openstorage required portions of it, and adding to that the sudden silence in indiana-discuss from @oracle.com @sun.com (last email on Friday 9/4), lets hope we will not be forced to move to bsd or linux world ( really outdated OSes compared to (open)solaris ). Please save the project. George -- Andrew Watkins * Birkbeck College http://notallmicrosoft.blogspot.com/ ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] [indiana-discuss] So when are we gonna fork this sucker?
On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 5:56 PM, Alan Coopersmith alan.coopersm...@oracle.com wrote: Chad Welsh wrote: So, when and who might be the first step/person to make this happen to protect what has been done so far? What would your fork do differently than the main project, besides have almost no developers working on it, since all the Oracle-paid developers would still be working on the original OpenSolaris? Would you even have enough developers to keep up with the overhead of merging in all the changes Oracle developers are pushing to the main OpenSolaris gates every day? I am definitely not known for being a Sun- YES_sayer (look into the 200[5-9] archives).. But Alan hits the nail on its very head. Yet another 100% +1! %martin If what you really want is a new distro that's not in Oracle's control, what would differentiate your distro from the existing ones, and why would it make sense to start another instead of joining one of the existing groups to work on theirs? -- -Alan Coopersmith- alan.coopersm...@oracle.com Oracle Solaris Platform Engineering: X Window System ___ indiana-discuss mailing list indiana-disc...@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/indiana-discuss ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] [indiana-discuss] So when are we gonna fork this sucker?
The question wasn't very clear, so here are my apologies. I was trying to ask if Oracle/Sun will maintain 2 different filesystems , ZFS and btrfs in two different platforms Open/Solaris and Linux, or if something can be merged along the way... I can imagine alot of customers with running linux servers would love to use either btrfs or ZFS on same server..damn i can even imagine one server with 3 filesystems in use , like : / --- formatted as ext3/ext4 /dedup --- formatted as ZFS for dedup ;) /data --- formatted with btrfs Anyway..its just plain curiosity. Bruno On 14-4-2010 17:31, casper@sun.com wrote: Just a completely different question...is there any plans for btrfs ? Will ZFS and btrfs co-exist or there's a chance that the less used one would be dropped? Which OS supports both? Linux support brtfs, Solaris supports ZFS. Casper smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
