Re: [osol-discuss] ClearType available for OpenSolaris?

2009-07-13 Thread andrew
 Ive tried dabbling with preferences, but to no avail.
 Have anyone here succeeded getting the same font
 appearance as in the picture on the website I link to?

You will never get it to look exactly like Windows XP - for that you would need 
another copy of Windows XP. :-) But if you want it to look like Ubuntu, you 
would need to find out exactly which fonts Ubuntu is using, and which font 
rendering options, and copy those across to OpenSolaris. 

I've not tried copying fonts across myself, but I did try to match the font 
rendering options as follows (this is on OpenSolaris):

1. Right click on the desktop and choose Desktop Appearance... from the menu.
2. Click the Fonts tab.
3. Set the Rendering option to Monochrome.
4. Click the Details button.
5. Set Smoothing to Grayscale and Hinting to Slight.
6. click Close button, then Close again. You should now be back at the 
desktop.
7. Log out, then back in to make sure the desktop menus get redrawn with your 
new preferences.

Cheers

Andrew.
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Re: [osol-discuss] ClearType available for OpenSolaris?

2009-07-11 Thread Orvar Korvar
Ive tried dabbling with preferences, but to no avail. Have anyone here 
succeeded getting the same font appearance as in the picture on the website I 
link to?
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Re: [osol-discuss] ClearType available for OpenSolaris?

2009-07-09 Thread Orvar Korvar
I dont get that. I can not find any Main Menu

Main Menu  All Applications  System Tools  Configuration Editor

I only have three menus, Program, Places and System. There is no main 
menu.



Anyway, In the picture above in the first post here, I think Windows XP looks 
far better. I havent been able to mimic that look in OpenSolaris. Now I tried 
to install Ubuntu inside VirtualBox 2.2.4 and also Ubuntu looks better than 
OpenSolaris.

Why is that? Does OpenSolaris have bad fonts or what is the problem? Just 
curious.
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Re: [osol-discuss] ClearType available for OpenSolaris?

2009-07-09 Thread Shawn Walker

Orvar Korvar wrote:

I dont get that. I can not find any Main Menu

Main Menu  All Applications  System Tools  Configuration Editor

I only have three menus, Program, Places and System. There is no main 
menu.


System Preferences - Appearance - Fonts is what you're probably 
looking for.



Anyway, In the picture above in the first post here, I think Windows XP looks 
far better. I havent been able to mimic that look in OpenSolaris. Now I tried 
to install Ubuntu inside VirtualBox 2.2.4 and also Ubuntu looks better than 
OpenSolaris.

Why is that? Does OpenSolaris have bad fonts or what is the problem? Just 
curious.


As others have mentioned, most of the algorithms used for rasterising / 
displaying fonts are patented and the majority of the professional 
quality fonts available are not freely redistributable.


Some Linux distributions choose to enable patented font display methods 
by default or have chosen different fonts, etc. for their default display.


Which looks better to different individuals is entirely subjective, so 
what you feel looks 'better' another person may not agree with.


For now, the short answer is 'patents'.  Meanwhile, I think you'll find 
some controls to adjust the appearance of fonts more to your liking in 
the preferences dialog I mentioned above.


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Re: [osol-discuss] ClearType available for OpenSolaris?

2009-07-09 Thread Paul Gress

Orvar Korvar wrote:

I dont get that. I can not find any Main Menu

Main Menu  All Applications  System Tools  Configuration Editor

I only have three menus, Program, Places and System. There is no main 
menu.



Anyway, In the picture above in the first post here, I think Windows XP looks 
far better. I havent been able to mimic that look in OpenSolaris. Now I tried 
to install Ubuntu inside VirtualBox 2.2.4 and also Ubuntu looks better than 
OpenSolaris.

Why is that? Does OpenSolaris have bad fonts or what is the problem? Just 
curious.
  


I believe I was the one who wrote that.  On my computer I changed the 
Icon (/usr/share/icons/hicolor/32x32/apps/sun-start-here.png) in the 
main menu or what ever it's called.  In windows it's called start.  So, 
I don't remember what it's called.  It can be placed in a the 
gnome-panel simply by:


right click in the gnome-panel
click Add to Panel
scroll down and double click Main Menu

This brings up the Main Menu where you can follow it to the 
configuration editor as shown above.


Paul

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Re: [osol-discuss] ClearType available for OpenSolaris?

2009-07-09 Thread Andrew Stormont
Or you could just type gconf-editor in the terminal :P

2009/7/9 Paul Gress pgr...@optonline.net

 Orvar Korvar wrote:

 I dont get that. I can not find any Main Menu

 Main Menu  All Applications  System Tools  Configuration Editor

 I only have three menus, Program, Places and System. There is no
 main menu.



 Anyway, In the picture above in the first post here, I think Windows XP
 looks far better. I havent been able to mimic that look in OpenSolaris. Now
 I tried to install Ubuntu inside VirtualBox 2.2.4 and also Ubuntu looks
 better than OpenSolaris.

 Why is that? Does OpenSolaris have bad fonts or what is the problem? Just
 curious.



 I believe I was the one who wrote that.  On my computer I changed the Icon
 (/usr/share/icons/hicolor/32x32/apps/sun-start-here.png) in the main menu or
 what ever it's called.  In windows it's called start.  So, I don't remember
 what it's called.  It can be placed in a the gnome-panel simply by:

 right click in the gnome-panel
 click Add to Panel
 scroll down and double click Main Menu

 This brings up the Main Menu where you can follow it to the configuration
 editor as shown above.

 Paul


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Re: [osol-discuss] ClearType available for OpenSolaris?

2009-07-09 Thread William Bauer
Two things:

1. As already mentioned, right click on your desktop, choose Desktop 
Appearance, then Fonts, then choose Subpixel Smoothing.  All the detail 
available in the config editor are also found here if you click Details.

2. Many web pages and applications use fonts from Microsoft that have been 
released to the public.  You can install those from the extra repository:

First, you have to register with Sun here (it's free):

https://pkg.sun.com/

Then download and install the certificates as described on that same page, and 
also follow the instructions to add the Extra repository.  Be careful to 
follow or cut  paste the commands precisely.  Sun used to call it extras, 
but now it is called extra in the repository URL.  Just cut  paste and you 
should be fine.

Then install the fonts:

pfexec pkg install ttf-fonts-core

They'll be available to every app, including (for example) your web browser, 
Acrobat, and OpenOffice.  There are many fonts, including Arial, Verdana, 
Trebuchet, Comic Sans, with a total of 20 fonts.
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[osol-discuss] ClearType available for OpenSolaris?

2009-06-25 Thread Orvar Korvar
When I boot into WinXP the fonts have always looked better than OpenSolaris. 
Also, WinXP in VirtualBox running on OpenSolaris shows better looks than 
OpenSolaris. It looks exactly like these two boxes at the top. The box to the 
left looks like OpenSolaris. The box to the right looks like WinXP. I prefer 
the box to the right.
http://blogs.msdn.com/e7/archive/2009/06/23/engineering-changes-to-cleartype-in-windows-7.aspx

Why is that? Is there some way of getting ClearType-esque technique to 
OpenSolaris?
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Re: [osol-discuss] ClearType available for OpenSolaris?

2009-06-25 Thread Andrew Stormont
Have you had a look at the Fonts tab in System-Preferences-Appearance?

2009/6/25 Orvar Korvar knatte_fnatte_tja...@yahoo.com

 When I boot into WinXP the fonts have always looked better than
 OpenSolaris. Also, WinXP in VirtualBox running on OpenSolaris shows better
 looks than OpenSolaris. It looks exactly like these two boxes at the top.
 The box to the left looks like OpenSolaris. The box to the right looks like
 WinXP. I prefer the box to the right.

 http://blogs.msdn.com/e7/archive/2009/06/23/engineering-changes-to-cleartype-in-windows-7.aspx

 Why is that? Is there some way of getting ClearType-esque technique to
 OpenSolaris?
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