Re: [osol-discuss] OpenSolaris Use Case: Package Management Possible Scenario
That's good to know, has anyone delved into importing packages from subversion for IPS/pkgtools? 2009/8/20 Che Kristo > As I have said before the effort spent supporting two packaging systems > would be better spent on porting packages into the existing system (IPS), if > someone wants to go and work on other package systems (and they have) they > are ,more than welcome to. > > On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 4:48 AM, Spencer Tom Tafadzwa Chirume < > schir...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> More choice is relevant when you have a limited application base, to >> make the most of what's out there would mean using subversion and >> OpenPKG for best effect. One would expect to get more packages on a >> running system provided that you can install it from the disc since >> both have their own application repos - that's the only gripe I have >> with OpenSolaris atm. More choice to the user works for most don't you >> think. >> >> 2009/8/18 Shawn Walker : >> > Spencer Tom Tafadzwa Chirume wrote: >> >> >> >> Hi Shawn >> >> >> >> So would it be possible to have a system similar to portage or >> subversion? >> > >> > Somewhat, I believe you could create something similar using pkgtool. >> > >> > Cheers, >> > -- >> > Shawn Walker >> > >> ___ >> opensolaris-discuss mailing list >> opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org >> > > ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] OpenSolaris Use Case: Package Management Possible Scenario
As I have said before the effort spent supporting two packaging systems would be better spent on porting packages into the existing system (IPS), if someone wants to go and work on other package systems (and they have) they are ,more than welcome to. On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 4:48 AM, Spencer Tom Tafadzwa Chirume < schir...@gmail.com> wrote: > More choice is relevant when you have a limited application base, to > make the most of what's out there would mean using subversion and > OpenPKG for best effect. One would expect to get more packages on a > running system provided that you can install it from the disc since > both have their own application repos - that's the only gripe I have > with OpenSolaris atm. More choice to the user works for most don't you > think. > > 2009/8/18 Shawn Walker : > > Spencer Tom Tafadzwa Chirume wrote: > >> > >> Hi Shawn > >> > >> So would it be possible to have a system similar to portage or > subversion? > > > > Somewhat, I believe you could create something similar using pkgtool. > > > > Cheers, > > -- > > Shawn Walker > > > ___ > opensolaris-discuss mailing list > opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org > ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] OpenSolaris Use Case: Package Management Possible Scenario
More choice is relevant when you have a limited application base, to make the most of what's out there would mean using subversion and OpenPKG for best effect. One would expect to get more packages on a running system provided that you can install it from the disc since both have their own application repos - that's the only gripe I have with OpenSolaris atm. More choice to the user works for most don't you think. 2009/8/18 Shawn Walker : > Spencer Tom Tafadzwa Chirume wrote: >> >> Hi Shawn >> >> So would it be possible to have a system similar to portage or subversion? > > Somewhat, I believe you could create something similar using pkgtool. > > Cheers, > -- > Shawn Walker > ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] OpenSolaris Use Case: Package Management Possible Scenario
The Desktop community already has the pkgbuild tool to build RPM-style spec files on OpenSolaris, and is working on producing IPS packages from that. The related spec-files-extra project has a large repository of spec files already ported to Solaris (few Linux RPM specs just build as is, with no changes required). -Alan Coopersmith- alan.coopersm...@sun.com Sun Microsystems, Inc. - X Window System Engineering Spencer Tom Tafadzwa Chirume wrote: > The thing is that you have pkgbuild or OpenPkg which can build or > install from rpms thus addressing user needs through package > interoperability. You normally don't have to apply a lot of effort by > adding more packages when there's several rpm repositories online that > are used in other scenarios. With a working framework getting most > applications to work as on any other rpm based platform is worth > shouting about - for depending on your point of view and development > issues. It would be interesting to see how this is addressed in > OpenSolaris. > > 2009/8/18 Che Kristo : >> What is the isue you are trying to address exactly anyway? If we are missing >> packages our efforts would be better spent on getting those packages into >> the existing framework rather than complicating our package management by >> introducing additional frameworks. >> >> On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 8:29 AM, Spencer Tom Tafadzwa Chirume >> wrote: >>> Hi, >>> >>> It would be great to have the OpenPkg package management system >>> integrated with opensolaris' IPS GUI which allows users to access >>> binaries in RPM format for cross platform compatibility, it should >>> make it easier to get programs from Fedora/Redhat linux platforms to >>> run on opensolaris helping users moving from linux to opensolaris with >>> a probable added benefit of user confidence. >>> ___ >>> opensolaris-discuss mailing list >>> opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org >> > ___ > opensolaris-discuss mailing list > opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] OpenSolaris Use Case: Package Management Possible Scenario
If you look back through the mailing list you can see that I have advocated for OpenPKG in the past, but, this was before IPS came along. OpenPKG is available for Solaris 10 and no doubt will be made available for Solaris.next once it has been on the market for a while. To bring OpenPKG into mainline Solaris/OpenSolaris by default would confuse the package management situation. Are you advocating?: 1 - Having OpenPKG in OpenSolaris by default 2 - Having OpenPKG as an optional install (perhaps in the contrib IPS repository?) Personally I see no problem with option 2, I think it would be great to see OpenPKG available to those who want it. On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 5:57 PM, Spencer Tom Tafadzwa Chirume < schir...@gmail.com> wrote: > The thing is that you have pkgbuild or OpenPkg which can build or > install from rpms thus addressing user needs through package > interoperability. You normally don't have to apply a lot of effort by > adding more packages when there's several rpm repositories online that > are used in other scenarios. With a working framework getting most > applications to work as on any other rpm based platform is worth > shouting about - for depending on your point of view and development > issues. It would be interesting to see how this is addressed in > OpenSolaris. > > 2009/8/18 Che Kristo : > > What is the isue you are trying to address exactly anyway? If we are > missing > > packages our efforts would be better spent on getting those packages into > > the existing framework rather than complicating our package management by > > introducing additional frameworks. > > > > On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 8:29 AM, Spencer Tom Tafadzwa Chirume > > wrote: > >> > >> Hi, > >> > >> It would be great to have the OpenPkg package management system > >> integrated with opensolaris' IPS GUI which allows users to access > >> binaries in RPM format for cross platform compatibility, it should > >> make it easier to get programs from Fedora/Redhat linux platforms to > >> run on opensolaris helping users moving from linux to opensolaris with > >> a probable added benefit of user confidence. > >> ___ > >> opensolaris-discuss mailing list > >> opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org > > > > > ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
[osol-discuss] OpenSolaris Use Case: Package Management Possible Scenario
The thing is that you have pkgbuild or OpenPkg which can build or install from rpms thus addressing user needs through package interoperability. You normally don't have to apply a lot of effort by adding more packages when there's several rpm repositories online that are used in other scenarios. With a working framework getting most applications to work as on any other rpm based platform is worth shouting about - for depending on your point of view and development issues. It would be interesting to see how this is addressed in OpenSolaris. 2009/8/18 Che Kristo : > What is the isue you are trying to address exactly anyway? If we are missing > packages our efforts would be better spent on getting those packages into > the existing framework rather than complicating our package management by > introducing additional frameworks. > > On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 8:29 AM, Spencer Tom Tafadzwa Chirume > wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> It would be great to have the OpenPkg package management system >> integrated with opensolaris' IPS GUI which allows users to access >> binaries in RPM format for cross platform compatibility, it should >> make it easier to get programs from Fedora/Redhat linux platforms to >> run on opensolaris helping users moving from linux to opensolaris with >> a probable added benefit of user confidence. >> ___ >> opensolaris-discuss mailing list >> opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org > > ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] OpenSolaris Use Case: Package Management Possible Scenario
What is the isue you are trying to address exactly anyway? If we are missing packages our efforts would be better spent on getting those packages into the existing framework rather than complicating our package management by introducing additional frameworks. On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 8:29 AM, Spencer Tom Tafadzwa Chirume < schir...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi, > > It would be great to have the OpenPkg package management system > integrated with opensolaris' IPS GUI which allows users to access > binaries in RPM format for cross platform compatibility, it should > make it easier to get programs from Fedora/Redhat linux platforms to > run on opensolaris helping users moving from linux to opensolaris with > a probable added benefit of user confidence. > ___ > opensolaris-discuss mailing list > opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org > ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] OpenSolaris Use Case: Package Management Possible Scenario
Spencer Tom Tafadzwa Chirume wrote: Hi, It would be great to have the OpenPkg package management system integrated with opensolaris' IPS GUI which allows users to access binaries in RPM format for cross platform compatibility, it should make it easier to get programs from Fedora/Redhat linux platforms to run on opensolaris helping users moving from linux to opensolaris with a probable added benefit of user confidence. The OpenPkg system is a completely disparate, rpm-based system so isn't even remotely compatible at last check. With that in mind, it just isn't practical to consider adding support for it to the pkg(5) GUI client. The pkg(5) GUI is wholly-dependent on the pkg(5) API and design. Cheers, -- Shawn Walker ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
[osol-discuss] OpenSolaris Use Case: Package Management Possible Scenario
Hi, It would be great to have the OpenPkg package management system integrated with opensolaris' IPS GUI which allows users to access binaries in RPM format for cross platform compatibility, it should make it easier to get programs from Fedora/Redhat linux platforms to run on opensolaris helping users moving from linux to opensolaris with a probable added benefit of user confidence. ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
