Re: [osol-discuss] Which way to go [push/pull] with bkups of Windows OS's to zfs
Harry Putnam wrote: Ian Collins writes: 1) Serve all windows networks drives from Solaris. 2) Use iSCSI volumes for specific windows servers. 3) Pull data from stand alone windows boxes with rsync. Thanks for the tips... 1). I'm sorry to be dense but not really sure I understand your meaning about network[s] [Typo of networked?]. An example for me would be a windows box with some 5 partitions over 3 drives. All partitions are networked (shared). Including the OS partition. There aren't any windoes hosted network drives. All the windows shared drives are on the Solaris host shared through Samba, or on OpenSolaris shared with CIFS. 2) I'm a complete dope about iSCSI so again not sure I'm following you. Some windows servers use iSCSI volumes exported for Solaris hosts as their "local" drives. Are you speaking in 3) of full backups including the OS files etc, or just networked volumes of data (like pictures or videos in my case). I ask because it seems if rsyncing (pull) from OSol you will run into many files that are not copyable due to being in use during the course of the backup. Pass - I only to the (Open)Solaris side! Most of the stuff pulled is database exports. -- Ian. ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Which way to go [push/pull] with bkups of Windows OS's to zfs
Ian Collins writes: > 1) Serve all windows networks drives from Solaris. > 2) Use iSCSI volumes for specific windows servers. > 3) Pull data from stand alone windows boxes with rsync. Thanks for the tips... 1). I'm sorry to be dense but not really sure I understand your meaning about network[s] [Typo of networked?]. An example for me would be a windows box with some 5 partitions over 3 drives. All partitions are networked (shared). Including the OS partition. 2) I'm a complete dope about iSCSI so again not sure I'm following you. Are you speaking in 3) of full backups including the OS files etc, or just networked volumes of data (like pictures or videos in my case). I ask because it seems if rsyncing (pull) from OSol you will run into many files that are not copyable due to being in use during the course of the backup. Is this not a problem for you... or are you using some kind of shadow setup such as VSS on the windows boxes to copy all that type of stuff in advance of running rsync? ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Which way to go [push/pull] with bkups of Windows OS's to zfs
Harry Putnam wrote: Any of you out there that use your opensol and zfs as backup nas for windows machines? One of clients back up all their windows servers via ZFS (using Solaris 10). They use three techniques: 1) Serve all windows networks drives from Solaris. 2) Use iSCSI volumes for specific windows servers. 3) Pull data from stand alone windows boxes with rsync. I wonder what is a sound plan... it appears with a few experiments that it may be easier to get error free backups by running the backup itself from windows. Perhaps less problems with NTFS style permissions colliding with unix style.? ZFS ACLs are a good match for windows ACLs. -- Ian. ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Which way to go [push/pull] with bkups of Windows OS's to zfs
Harry, for enterprises or small businesses I would recommend some "supported" solutions such as Nexenta Delorean: http://www.nexenta.com/delorean robocopy and rsync transports, backup browser, snapshots, ACLs, VCS, etc, etc.. Harry Putnam wrote: Any of you out there that use your opensol and zfs as backup nas for windows machines? I wonder what is a sound plan... it appears with a few experiments that it may be easier to get error free backups by running the backup itself from windows. Perhaps less problems with NTFS style permissions colliding with unix style.? I've tried both rsync and rdiff-backup in both directions (Using cygwin when action is commenced from windows side. Oh, and in my experiments... rdiff-backup appears to have some huge time overhead compared to rsync alone. I've also experimented with a windows client called Retrospect that appears to work well on the connections and such but has trouble on the windows side... where logs show lots of sharing violations. (even though my version has the `openfile backup' function enabled. -- but this is not apparently related to any problems on the zfs end) Anyone here that can offer their experiences toward the end of the least trouble ridden method when dealing with Windows OS. ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
[osol-discuss] Which way to go [push/pull] with bkups of Windows OS's to zfs
Any of you out there that use your opensol and zfs as backup nas for windows machines? I wonder what is a sound plan... it appears with a few experiments that it may be easier to get error free backups by running the backup itself from windows. Perhaps less problems with NTFS style permissions colliding with unix style.? I've tried both rsync and rdiff-backup in both directions (Using cygwin when action is commenced from windows side. Oh, and in my experiments... rdiff-backup appears to have some huge time overhead compared to rsync alone. I've also experimented with a windows client called Retrospect that appears to work well on the connections and such but has trouble on the windows side... where logs show lots of sharing violations. (even though my version has the `openfile backup' function enabled. -- but this is not apparently related to any problems on the zfs end) Anyone here that can offer their experiences toward the end of the least trouble ridden method when dealing with Windows OS. ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
