Re: [osol-discuss] general request/advice/suggestion for os and os app developers
Opensolaris is appropriate for desktop use and server use as per the link:http://www.opensolaris.com/learn/(read the first sentence of second paragraph.) I want to use open solaris as a desktop and server machine because i am also a developer. I want to use open solaris purely as a desktop that should outsmart ubuntu and windows(Is this a worst request?). I still wonder and don't understand that an operating system with longest and greatest history can not work as good desktop machine as windows operating system. I want to use ubuntu as desktop for normal computer use and opensolaris as server for my development use. -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] general request/advice/suggestion for os and os app developers
Sridhar, I am not clear on what it is you are saying here I want to use open solaris as a desktop and server machine I want to use ubuntu as desktop for normal computer use and opensolaris as server Which one is it? First you say you want OpenSolaris as Desktop and Server, second you say you want Ubuntu as desktop and OpenSolaris as server :-| and then can not work as good desktop machine as windows operating system - can you make this more constructive please, what specifically are you talking about, what is as good for you? There are many people here who love to help but you need first to #1 Be clear on exactly what it is you want #2 Be specific in your criticism, think to yourself which of the following would help the developers improve OpenSolaris: Feature X that is in Windows is not in OpenSolaris OpenSolaris is not as good as Windows On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 19:48, sridhar devatha.srid...@gmail.com wrote: Opensolaris is appropriate for desktop use and server use as per the link: http://www.opensolaris.com/learn/(readhttp://www.opensolaris.com/learn/%28readthe first sentence of second paragraph.) I want to use open solaris as a desktop and server machine because i am also a developer. I want to use open solaris purely as a desktop that should outsmart ubuntu and windows(Is this a worst request?). I still wonder and don't understand that an operating system with longest and greatest history can not work as good desktop machine as windows operating system. I want to use ubuntu as desktop for normal computer use and opensolaris as server for my development use. -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] general request/advice/suggestion for os and os app developers
System components should automatically tweak their usage based on system hardware configuration. I recently read that zfs uses 1GB memory. This does not make our lifes any better. os should constantly tweak it's own settings so that we need not look for applications for tweaking like we use for windows registry, hard disk for cheking and fixing errors and defragmentation , etc. OpenSolaris, Linux, pretty much all operating systems already do this. I currently have Firefox, Emacs, and System Monitor running and I'm using 6.1 GB of RAM. Emacs may be a pig, but I promise it's not that bad :) The operating system is using the majority of that memory to cache data that I might access soon. If for some reason I need to allocate 5 GB of ram for an application it will gladly release that memory from cache and make it available for my application. This is certainly a better system than just letting those resources go underutilized. I hate to be harsh, but as someone else already suggested, you need to learn how things work before you start offering up suggestions. -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] general request/advice/suggestion for os and os app developers
i will use ubuntu for both desktop and server use as many told that it is the most user friendly unix distro. I will use open solaris as backup for my server use and hanlding essential and minimal personal data. I don't know when one of these will stop working because of one issue or other issue as they are still evolving(I have to evaluate ubuntu yet). I don't want single point of failure. -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] general request/advice/suggestion for os and os app developers
users reading my threads are thinking that i am asking /comparing with windows functionality. Take the below functionality that does not exist in any os(as builtin) as per my knowledge: 1. use different folder images for system dirs(make them read only if you need), apps dirs and user dirs to make better distinction. SO, user can freely and fearlessly can roam around all the partitions to manage his own files/dirs. Now all dirs are readonly except home dir. 2. What happens when the partition having os and home dir is full(because of data, songs and videos). Other partitions are having space. What is the gui (no cmds plz) way of handling this? 3. Ability to go thru the entire directories, files and settings of installed apps in the form of a user friendly graph instead of going thru the file systen thru file sys browser/cui. This is advanced user functionality and may be admin functionality. 4. constant tuning of system wrt what files, directories and settings belong to which applications so that when an application is uninstalled there are no leftovers in the system except the user created files using the app. Tuning of the system wrt disk errot checking and automatic fixing and defragmentation Tuning of system wrt optimal network speed(no tcp tweaks like windows) In short i should not need any system utilities like i needed in windows. 5. I am unable to know the apps opened on gnome desktop if i opened more than one app. I have to use std window key cmd Alt-Tab. 6. diagnotic tool to monitor which app(including sys) is using how much memory space,disk space and processor time. Dispaly app names along with program names and locations. 7. I want to know what are the directories under root dir(/). What is their purpose. how can i install (non-sys)apps in the directories I created. apps installed in user created dirs should display with app dir specific folder image as specified in one of the above things. -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
[osol-discuss] general request/advice/suggestion for os and os app developers
open solaris should not keep any junk like windows registry after uninstalling a application. Moreover every open solaris feature should run with as much less memory and processing as needed because desktop users are not corporate users with big deep pockets who can buy memory / processors. If every system component and user application does not care about memory and processing during design , development and testing, no amount of memory and processing is enough. Just do your bit to increase the years a computer can be used without upgrading memory/processor/disk space. System components should automatically tweak their usage based on system hardware configuration. I recently read that zfs uses 1GB memory. This does not make our lifes any better. os should constantly tweak it's own settings so that we need not look for applications for tweaking like we use for windows registry, hard disk for cheking and fixing errors and defragmentation , etc. -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] general request/advice/suggestion for os and os app developers
1) You completely misunderstood ZFS so that's why you don't know why it needs at least 1GB of RAM for normal function and even why it can run with less then 512MB of RAM 2) Learn something about Solaris 3) Use OS which is appropriate for your needs and don't listen to PRs then something is only one great OS because then you will be crying around like right now ;-) My preferred OS is OpenBSD. I'm able to use it as multimedia desktop, gaming platform or something like firewall, router or secure file/mail/... server and so on. But it doesn't mean that this OS is good for every use on the Earth. No, it isn't. That's why I'm using OpenSolaris/Solaris too. There are a lot of other OS's with lower needs on HW, but they may want more brain from their users. And yes, even OpenSolaris can use much lower resources if you know how to do it ;-) But yes, other OS's offer easier part in this. -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
