Re: [osol-discuss] [illumos-Developer] SchilliX-0.7.1 based on b147+ available
On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 01:10:23PM +0200, Joerg Schilling wrote: SchilliX-0.7.1 is based on the latest ONNV source published by Oracle. This is build 146 with 16 additional putbacks. see: ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/schillix I just tried booting this image on my Acer Aspire AspireAS3810T-6827 laptop, in hopes that the IOMMU code in the kernel had been improved since OS 134. Unfortunately, it seems to have the same problem. The last few messages on the screen were: ramdisk0 at root ramdisk0 is /ramdisk root on /ramdisk acpinex0 at root acpinex0 is /fw acpinex: c...@1, cpudrv0 /fw/c...@1 (cpudrv0) online pseudo-device: dld0 dld0 is /pseudo/d...@0 At that point it hung. I had to hold down the power button to recover. Windows 7 and Ubuntu run fine on this laptop. Is there anything else I can do to diagnose the problem? -- -Gary Mills--Unix Group--Computer and Network Services- ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] [illumos-Developer] SchilliX-0.7.1 based on b147+ available
On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 01:10:23PM +0200, Joerg Schilling wrote: SchilliX-0.7.1 is based on the latest ONNV source published by Oracle. This is build 146 with 16 additional putbacks. see: ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/schillix I just tried booting this image on my Acer Aspire AspireAS3810T-6827 laptop, in hopes that the IOMMU code in the kernel had been improved since OS 134. Unfortunately, it seems to have the same problem. The last few messages on the screen were: ramdisk0 at root ramdisk0 is /ramdisk root on /ramdisk acpinex0 at root acpinex0 is /fw acpinex: c...@1, cpudrv0 /fw/c...@1 (cpudrv0) online pseudo-device: dld0 dld0 is /pseudo/d...@0 At that point it hung. I had to hold down the power button to recover. Windows 7 and Ubuntu run fine on this laptop. Is there anything else I can do to diagnose the problem? Boot in kmdb and try to find out where it hangs. It didn't hang before? Casper ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] [illumos-Developer] SchilliX-0.7.1 based on b147+ available
On Fri, Sep 03, 2010 at 10:20:13AM +0200, casper@sun.com wrote: On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 01:10:23PM +0200, Joerg Schilling wrote: SchilliX-0.7.1 is based on the latest ONNV source published by Oracle. This is build 146 with 16 additional putbacks. see: ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/schillix I just tried booting this image on my Acer Aspire AspireAS3810T-6827 laptop, in hopes that the IOMMU code in the kernel had been improved since OS 134. Unfortunately, it seems to have the same problem. The last few messages on the screen were: ramdisk0 at root ramdisk0 is /ramdisk root on /ramdisk acpinex0 at root acpinex0 is /fw acpinex: c...@1, cpudrv0 /fw/c...@1 (cpudrv0) online pseudo-device: dld0 dld0 is /pseudo/d...@0 At that point it hung. I had to hold down the power button to recover. Windows 7 and Ubuntu run fine on this laptop. Is there anything else I can do to diagnose the problem? Boot in kmdb and try to find out where it hangs. It didn't hang before? I quickly discovered that SchilliX-0.7.1 adds the `-vk' option by default. So, it's already there. Typing F1-a after it hung had no effect. Even when I booted with `-vkd', and then entered `:c' at the kmdb prompt, it still hung at the same place. I suppose I need to set some earlier breakpoints, but I don't know what they should be. By the way, I'm booting it from an external USB DVD drive. This laptop doesn't have an internal optical drive. The USB driver may be involved in the hang as well. I have the same problem with OS 134 booting from USB a flash stick. -- -Gary Mills--Unix Group--Computer and Network Services- ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] [illumos-Developer] SchilliX-0.7.1 based on b147+ available
Gary Mills mi...@cc.umanitoba.ca wrote: On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 01:10:23PM +0200, Joerg Schilling wrote: SchilliX-0.7.1 is based on the latest ONNV source published by Oracle. This is build 146 with 16 additional putbacks. see:ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/schillix I just tried booting this image on my Acer Aspire AspireAS3810T-6827 laptop, in hopes that the IOMMU code in the kernel had been improved since OS 134. Unfortunately, it seems to have the same problem. The last few messages on the screen were: ramdisk0 at root ramdisk0 is /ramdisk root on /ramdisk acpinex0 at root acpinex0 is /fw acpinex: c...@1, cpudrv0 /fw/c...@1 (cpudrv0) online pseudo-device: dld0 dld0 is /pseudo/d...@0 At that point it hung. I had to hold down the power button to recover. Windows 7 and Ubuntu run fine on this laptop. Is there anything else I can do to diagnose the problem? If this is the same hang you see with older ON versions, you should be able to disable IOMMU support the same way by editing the grub boot command line. BTW: The current goals for Illumos are not primarily to fix left over bugs from Oracle but to replace closed source by OpenSource. Last night, we made a big step towards working i18n support - something you did not get from OpenSolaris as OpenSolaris does not deliver dynamic loadable locale data. Jörg -- EMail:jo...@schily.isdn.cs.tu-berlin.de (home) Jörg Schilling D-13353 Berlin j...@cs.tu-berlin.de(uni) joerg.schill...@fokus.fraunhofer.de (work) Blog: http://schily.blogspot.com/ URL: http://cdrecord.berlios.de/private/ ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/schily ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] [illumos-Developer] SchilliX-0.7.1 based on b147+ available
Gabriele Bulfon gbul...@sonicle.com wrote: Is i18n the only integration that suffice to make IllumOS as stable as OpenSolaris for production usages? SchilliX uses only free bits and for this reason, it has no locale data available. Once we have working i18n support in Illumos, this is a step forward compared to what Oracle provides. Jörg -- EMail:jo...@schily.isdn.cs.tu-berlin.de (home) Jörg Schilling D-13353 Berlin j...@cs.tu-berlin.de(uni) joerg.schill...@fokus.fraunhofer.de (work) Blog: http://schily.blogspot.com/ URL: http://cdrecord.berlios.de/private/ ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/schily ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] [illumos-Developer] SchilliX-0.7.1 based on b147+ available
Is i18n the only integration that suffice to make IllumOS as stable as OpenSolaris for production usages? Gabriele Bulfon - Sonicle S.r.l. Tel +39 028246016 Int. 30 - Fax +39 028243880 Via Felice Cavallotti 16 - 20089, Rozzano - Milano - ITALY http://www.sonicle.com -- Da: Joerg Schilling A: opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org maybird1...@yahoo.com develo...@lists.illumos.org Data: 31 agosto 2010 14.16.09 CEST Oggetto: Re: [illumos-Developer] [osol-discuss] SchilliX-0.7.1 based on b147+ available ken mays wrote: --- On Tue, 8/31/10, Joerg Schilling wrote: From: Joerg Schilling Subject: [osol-discuss] SchilliX-0.7.1 based on b147+ available To: develo...@lists.illumos.org, opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org Date: Tuesday, August 31, 2010, 7:10 AM SchilliX-0.7.1 is based on the latest ONNV source published by Oracle. This is build 146 with 16 additional putbacks. Hello, RFE: My last pull of ON_current had about 10 putbacks from the ON_148 open gate on top of the ON_147 tagged release as of Aug 24, 2010. I tried hg pull deveral times past August 18th but always get: hg pull pulling from ssh://a...@hg.opensolaris.org/hg/onnv/onnv-gate searching for changes no changes found It seems that I did not remember correclty. There are 12 putbacks since b147, but then thigs stopped: hg log changeset: 13149:b23a4dab3d50 tag: tip user:Sukumar Swaminathan date:Wed Aug 18 15:52:48 2010 -0600 summary: 6973228 Cannot download firmware 2.103.x.x on Emulex FCoE HBAs changeset: 13148:7f829eb09eb7 user:Sukumar Swaminathan date:Wed Aug 18 15:57:57 2010 -0600 summary: 6926521 Sun VTS test fails for qlge interface changeset: 13147:5f70b43d6386 user:Mark Shellenbaum date:Wed Aug 18 13:59:31 2010 -0600 summary: 6977619 NULL pointer deference in sa_handle_get_from_db() changeset: 13146:f3dd638d3435 user:Jonathan Adams date:Wed Aug 18 12:47:36 2010 -0700 summary: 6863750 kmem metadata in zfs_file_data impedes debugging non-debug crash dumps changeset: 13145:f48649d19a4e user:Dave Plauger date:Wed Aug 18 15:20:51 2010 -0400 summary: 6976415 Console commands reset panic + sync cause panic dump timeout on M4000 and M5000 changeset: 13144:9747db92c2e8 user:Tim Haley date:Wed Aug 18 13:14:20 2010 -0600 summary: 6977470 zdb -vvv broken after zfs diff integration changeset: 13143:317a09ef2c51 user:Ben Chang date:Wed Aug 18 10:13:15 2010 -0700 summary: 6861238 N2L: ypserv doesn't store hostnames in lowercase in the key-column in hosts.byname changeset: 13142:f04a293f3233 user:Rich Burridge date:Tue Aug 17 14:37:41 2010 -0700 summary: 6526555 man -s does not work for sections containing uppercase letters changeset: 13141:bb6d135b32d1 user:Sangeeta Misra date:Tue Aug 17 14:09:30 2010 -0700 summary: 6884631 ilb code needs to utilize the audit tokens types of in_remote iport for server address and ports changeset: 13140:84ccd9321eb7 user:jv227347 date:Tue Aug 17 13:22:25 2010 -0700 summary: 6897938 zonecfg(1M) hemorrhages memory after Yacc processes commands with syntax errors changeset: 13139:420a09381f6f user:Rich Burridge date:Tue Aug 17 11:03:38 2010 -0700 summary: 6973687 man command core dumps on openssl manual page changeset: 13138:89c014c50a5f user:jose borrego date:Tue Aug 17 00:10:01 2010 -0600 summary: 6962953 fw_101 : assertion failed in thread_join() from smb_server_delete() changeset: 13137:f23a67c5e7d8 user:jmcp date:Mon Aug 16 23:02:16 2010 -0700 summary: Added tag onnv_147 for changeset 67d1861e02c15565f9bc5a6e271fa99c13d0d4c8 Note: SFW_147 brings in Samba 3.5.4. Xnv_147+ bring in Freetype 2.4.2. Congrats on the PUBLIC release of Shillix 0.7.1!!! It seems that in the future there is a need to switch to Illumos. This may happen soon, as the i18n OSS integration in Illumos is nearly ready. Jörg -- EMail:jo...@schily.isdn.cs.tu-berlin.de (home) Jörg Schilling D-13353 Berlin j...@cs.tu-berlin.de(uni) joerg.schill...@fokus.fraunhofer.de (work) Blog: http://schily.blogspot.com/ URL: http://cdrecord.berlios.de/private/ ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/schily ___ Developer mailing list develo...@lists.illumos.org http://lists.illumos.org/m/listinfo/developer ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] [illumos-Developer] SchilliX-0.7.1 based on b147+ available
That's great ;) andwhat are the missing features compared to latest OpenSolaris dev? (if any...) Gabriele Bulfon - Sonicle S.r.l. Tel +39 028246016 Int. 30 - Fax +39 028243880 Via Felice Cavallotti 16 - 20089, Rozzano - Milano - ITALY http://www.sonicle.com -- Da: Joerg Schilling A: opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org maybird1...@yahoo.com gbul...@sonicle.com develo...@lists.illumos.org Data: 31 agosto 2010 14.25.59 CEST Oggetto: Re: [illumos-Developer] [osol-discuss] SchilliX-0.7.1 based on b147+ available Gabriele Bulfon wrote: Is i18n the only integration that suffice to make IllumOS as stable as OpenSolaris for production usages? SchilliX uses only free bits and for this reason, it has no locale data available. Once we have working i18n support in Illumos, this is a step forward compared to what Oracle provides. Jörg -- EMail:jo...@schily.isdn.cs.tu-berlin.de (home) Jörg Schilling D-13353 Berlin j...@cs.tu-berlin.de(uni) joerg.schill...@fokus.fraunhofer.de (work) Blog: http://schily.blogspot.com/ URL: http://cdrecord.berlios.de/private/ ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/schily ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] [illumos-Developer] SchilliX-0.7.1 based on b147+ available
Gabriele Bulfon gbul...@sonicle.com wrote: That's great ;) andwhat are the missing features compared to latest OpenSolaris dev? (if any...) If you like to compare SchilliX with OpenSolaris, nothing is missing. If you compare SchilliX to Indiana, things look different. From the discussion of Licenses, it seems that Indiana is not made of redistributable code only. Jörg -- EMail:jo...@schily.isdn.cs.tu-berlin.de (home) Jörg Schilling D-13353 Berlin j...@cs.tu-berlin.de(uni) joerg.schill...@fokus.fraunhofer.de (work) Blog: http://schily.blogspot.com/ URL: http://cdrecord.berlios.de/private/ ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/schily ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] [illumos-Developer] SchilliX-0.7.1 based on b147+ available
joerg.schill...@fokus.fraunhofer.de wrote: Gabriele Bulfon gbul...@sonicle.com wrote: That's great ;) andwhat are the missing features compared to latest OpenSolaris dev? (if any...) If you like to compare SchilliX with OpenSolaris, nothing is missing. If you compare SchilliX to Indiana, things look different. From the discussion of Licenses, it seems that Indiana is not made of redistributable code only. The distro named OpenSolaris, originally created by the Indiana project, contains only redistributable code in the install media main IPS repositories, though some of that is closed source binaries released under licenses like the OSBL. All packages containing code which is not redistributable are isolated to the /extra repository. -- -Alan Coopersmith-alan.coopersm...@oracle.com Oracle Solaris Platform Engineering: X Window System ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] [illumos-Developer] SchilliX-0.7.1 based on b147+ available
Alan Coopersmith alan.coopersm...@oracle.com wrote: joerg.schill...@fokus.fraunhofer.de wrote: Gabriele Bulfon gbul...@sonicle.com wrote: That's great ;) andwhat are the missing features compared to latest OpenSolaris dev? (if any...) If you like to compare SchilliX with OpenSolaris, nothing is missing. If you compare SchilliX to Indiana, things look different. From the discussion of Licenses, it seems that Indiana is not made of redistributable code only. The distro named OpenSolaris, originally created by the Indiana project, contains only redistributable code in the install media main IPS repositories, though some of that is closed source binaries released under licenses like the OSBL. Does this mean, I could bundle the data from /usr/lib/locale/* with SchilliX? All packages containing code which is not redistributable are isolated to the /extra repository. Given the fact that pkg search cc does not show any /extra in the output, does this mean I could bundle the studio compiler with SchilliX? I am a bit confused. I am willing to believe you but several people did write different claims before. Jörg -- EMail:jo...@schily.isdn.cs.tu-berlin.de (home) Jörg Schilling D-13353 Berlin j...@cs.tu-berlin.de(uni) joerg.schill...@fokus.fraunhofer.de (work) Blog: http://schily.blogspot.com/ URL: http://cdrecord.berlios.de/private/ ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/schily ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] [illumos-Developer] SchilliX-0.7.1 based on b147+ available
joerg.schill...@fokus.fraunhofer.de wrote: Given the fact that pkg search cc does not show any /extra in the output, does this mean I could bundle the studio compiler with SchilliX? You should be able to bundle the version provided by the pkg repository, under the terms of the license there, which you can see by either pkg info -r --license sunstudio12u1 | less or going to the http://pkg.opensolaris.org/dev/en/index.shtml, searching for the package, then clicking on the package name in the results page, leading to a URL such as: http://pkg.opensolaris.org/dev/info/0/sunstudio12u1%4012.1%2C5.11-0.111%3A20090617T225413Z Those terms of course only apply to the packages with that license attached, and not any other versions or install mechanisms, which would be covered by the license provided with those download mechanisms. (Those versions may include encumbered binaries that were not included in the redistributable downloads - I don't recall if studio was one of the packages that had to be changed that way for the pkg repo.) -- -Alan Coopersmith-alan.coopersm...@oracle.com Oracle Solaris Platform Engineering: X Window System ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] [illumos-Developer] SchilliX-0.7.1 based on b147+ available
On Tue, 2010-08-31 at 19:20 +0200, Joerg Schilling wrote: Alan Coopersmith alan.coopersm...@oracle.com wrote: joerg.schill...@fokus.fraunhofer.de wrote: Gabriele Bulfon gbul...@sonicle.com wrote: That's great ;) andwhat are the missing features compared to latest OpenSolaris dev? (if any...) If you like to compare SchilliX with OpenSolaris, nothing is missing. If you compare SchilliX to Indiana, things look different. From the discussion of Licenses, it seems that Indiana is not made of redistributable code only. The distro named OpenSolaris, originally created by the Indiana project, contains only redistributable code in the install media main IPS repositories, though some of that is closed source binaries released under licenses like the OSBL. Does this mean, I could bundle the data from /usr/lib/locale/* with SchilliX? Probably with the closed libc that you have as part of your 147 build. However, these bits would *not* work with illumos. All packages containing code which is not redistributable are isolated to the /extra repository. Given the fact that pkg search cc does not show any /extra in the output, does this mean I could bundle the studio compiler with SchilliX? No. pkg doesn't consider licensing considerations. You need to form your own analysis by reading the licenses of the software you have downloaded. -- Garrett ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
