Re: [osol-discuss] IPS on SXCE?
On Sun, Jul 6, 2008 at 4:27 AM, Sabeeh Baig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I've been working with pkgsrc on OpenSolaris and SXCE for a bit, and I can > say from experience that pkgsrc isn't entirely suitable for SXCE, at least > from the ease-of-use point of view. Gilles Dauphin has been doing Pkgsrc bulk builds on Solaris 10 for quite some time. You may want to contact him to get a better idea. Regards, Moinak. > > > This message posted from opensolaris.org > ___ > opensolaris-discuss mailing list > opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org > ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] IPS on SXCE?
I've been working with pkgsrc on OpenSolaris and SXCE for a bit, and I can say from experience that pkgsrc isn't entirely suitable for SXCE, at least from the ease-of-use point of view. This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] IPS on SXCE?
Rob Clark wrote: > SXCE is a platform used to build OpenSolaris so it seems we ought to (try to) > follow the updating procedures (BFU) in place ( > http://opensolaris.org/os/downloads/#build ) . BFU is not the update procedure for SXCE - it's a quick way for developers of a portion of OpenSolaris code (the "ON" or "OS & Networking" consolidation) to install new builds of that subset (about 20% of the whole SXCE OS) for testing. The SXCE upgrade procedure is to download the CD's or DVD's for the new build and run either Live Upgrade or the OS Installer upgrade option. -- -Alan Coopersmith- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sun Microsystems, Inc. - X Window System Engineering ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] IPS on SXCE?
I have OpenSolaris 2008.05 running and really enjoy the ease of the "Package Manager GUI". I was disappointed when I fired up Solaris Express: Community Edition (SX:CE) snv_91 and found there was no package manager. I looked for the package's project and found that one could compile it from source and install it on Solaris 11 - but that would be (very) unsupported. SXCE is a platform used to build OpenSolaris so it seems we ought to (try to) follow the updating procedures (BFU) in place ( http://opensolaris.org/os/downloads/#build ) . Then there is F/OSS http://opensolaris.org/os/project/pkgbase/ so what do we choose. There is the NetBSD packages system: http://www.netbsd.org/docs/pkgsrc/pkgsrc.txt which has support Solaris since 1999 (and is svr4) - so why are we reinventing the wheel. I'll be reading many web pages to figure out which way things are going and try to go that way without "Flag Daying myself" - like I need that :( . This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] IPS on SXCE?
On Tue, May 13, 2008 at 11:24 PM, Aubrey Li <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, May 12, 2008 at 10:31 PM, Shawn Walker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> On Mon, May 12, 2008 at 9:27 AM, Joerg Schilling >> >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> > "Shawn Walker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > >> > > > As long as ON does not compile on any opensolaris based distro (and >> Indiana is >> > > > such a distro), shuting down SXCE would shut down the possibility >> to compile >> > > > ON. >> > > >> > > Actually, ON does compile on OpenSolaris 2008.05. There were outside >> > > reports of that a week or so ago. >> > > >> > > You just have to do two things: >> > > >> > > * Install a tarball of the correct compiler >> > > * Set your PATH / environment properly >> > >> > It may compile if you do some manual changes, it will not create signed >> > binaries. >> >> Manual changes? If you mean code changes. No. None are required. >> > > Right, I compiled ON sucessfully without code change. > Let me know if I can do any help for you. > > The problem on my side is, Install command of cap-eye-install > can make a tarball. But, is there any doc to guide how to upgrade > to my own kernel? just like cap-eye-install on SXCE. You know, the default > rootfs in the kernel is uts, on indiana, zfs is the rootfs, instead. > Cap-eye-install really works on os0805 as well. Now I can boot my own kernel on os0805. Thanks, -Aubrey ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] IPS on SXCE?
On Mon, May 12, 2008 at 10:31 PM, Shawn Walker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, May 12, 2008 at 9:27 AM, Joerg Schilling > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > "Shawn Walker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > As long as ON does not compile on any opensolaris based distro (and > Indiana is > > > > such a distro), shuting down SXCE would shut down the possibility to > compile > > > > ON. > > > > > > Actually, ON does compile on OpenSolaris 2008.05. There were outside > > > reports of that a week or so ago. > > > > > > You just have to do two things: > > > > > > * Install a tarball of the correct compiler > > > * Set your PATH / environment properly > > > > It may compile if you do some manual changes, it will not create signed > > binaries. > > Manual changes? If you mean code changes. No. None are required. > Right, I compiled ON sucessfully without code change. Let me know if I can do any help for you. The problem on my side is, Install command of cap-eye-install can make a tarball. But, is there any doc to guide how to upgrade to my own kernel? just like cap-eye-install on SXCE. You know, the default rootfs in the kernel is uts, on indiana, zfs is the rootfs, instead. Thanks, -Aubrey ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] IPS on SXCE?
On 11 May 2008, at 12:04, Ivan Wang wrote: > The title says much of it, is there any plan to bring IPS into SXCE? > Or future Solaris is still based on SVr4 packaging system? I think it's probably reasonable to assume that Sun won't want to support two different packaging systems any longer than they have to. That said, there's no IPS roadmap for SXCE as yet, AFAIK. Cheeri, Calum. -- CALUM BENSON, Usability Engineer Sun Microsystems Ireland mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]GNOME Desktop Team http://blogs.sun.com/calum +353 1 819 9771 Any opinions are personal and not necessarily those of Sun Microsystems ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] IPS on SXCE?
Joerg Schilling wrote: > "Shawn Walker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> With the advent of OpenSolaris 2008.05, there shouldn't be any "missing >> bits." > > As this is essential for OpenSolaris, I would be happy if such things > would be discussed in the open. There are many other discussion I would > happily miss in favor of important information ;-) Technical discussions of what's needed to build ON should happen on opensolaris-code or on-discuss.Discussions about what Sun can make legally redistributable are at some level always going to be limited to discussions between the few people working on it and the lawyers reviewing the legal documents involved, since many of those legal documents contain confidentiality clauses. -- -Alan Coopersmith- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sun Microsystems, Inc. - X Window System Engineering ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] IPS on SXCE?
On Mon, May 12, 2008 at 9:02 AM, Joerg Schilling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Ivan Wang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > I believe the plan is to discontinue SXCE as soon as > > > Indiana contains everything available in SXCE (like > > > Jumpstart, text based installer, etc.) > > > > Alright, I can live with that (Indiana becomes new SXCE) too. But Shawn > stated here > http://www.opensolaris.org/jive/thread.jspa?threadID=59669&tstart=15 > > that SXCE will continue in foreseeable future. That's where my question > was spawned. > > As long as ON does not compile on any opensolaris based distro (and Indiana > is > such a distro), shuting down SXCE would shut down the possibility to compile > ON. Actually, ON does compile on OpenSolaris 2008.05. There were outside reports of that a week or so ago. You just have to do two things: * Install a tarball of the correct compiler * Set your PATH / environment properly -- Shawn Walker "To err is human -- and to blame it on a computer is even more so." - Robert Orben ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] IPS on SXCE?
"Shawn Walker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > With the advent of OpenSolaris 2008.05, there shouldn't be any "missing bits." As this is essential for OpenSolaris, I would be happy if such things would be discussed in the open. There are many other discussion I would happily miss in favor of important information ;-) Jörg -- EMail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (home) Jörg Schilling D-13353 Berlin [EMAIL PROTECTED](uni) [EMAIL PROTECTED] (work) Blog: http://schily.blogspot.com/ URL: http://cdrecord.berlios.de/old/private/ ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/schily ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] IPS on SXCE?
On Mon, May 12, 2008 at 9:27 AM, Joerg Schilling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > "Shawn Walker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > As long as ON does not compile on any opensolaris based distro (and > Indiana is > > > such a distro), shuting down SXCE would shut down the possibility to > compile > > > ON. > > > > Actually, ON does compile on OpenSolaris 2008.05. There were outside > > reports of that a week or so ago. > > > > You just have to do two things: > > > > * Install a tarball of the correct compiler > > * Set your PATH / environment properly > > It may compile if you do some manual changes, it will not create signed > binaries. Manual changes? If you mean code changes. No. None are required. > wbem is still not redistributable. If it it's on the repository at pkg.opensolaris.org, or in OpenSolaris 2008.05, it is redistributable. > I'll soon check to be able to update the list of missing bits. Please do! With the advent of OpenSolaris 2008.05, there shouldn't be any "missing bits." -- Shawn Walker "To err is human -- and to blame it on a computer is even more so." - Robert Orben ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] IPS on SXCE?
"Shawn Walker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > As long as ON does not compile on any opensolaris based distro (and > > Indiana is > > such a distro), shuting down SXCE would shut down the possibility to > > compile > > ON. > > Actually, ON does compile on OpenSolaris 2008.05. There were outside > reports of that a week or so ago. > > You just have to do two things: > > * Install a tarball of the correct compiler > * Set your PATH / environment properly It may compile if you do some manual changes, it will not create signed binaries. wbem is still not redistributable. I'll soon check to be able to update the list of missing bits. Jörg -- EMail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (home) Jörg Schilling D-13353 Berlin [EMAIL PROTECTED](uni) [EMAIL PROTECTED] (work) Blog: http://schily.blogspot.com/ URL: http://cdrecord.berlios.de/old/private/ ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/schily ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] IPS on SXCE?
Ivan Wang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I believe the plan is to discontinue SXCE as soon as > > Indiana contains everything available in SXCE (like > > Jumpstart, text based installer, etc.) > > Alright, I can live with that (Indiana becomes new SXCE) too. But Shawn > stated here > http://www.opensolaris.org/jive/thread.jspa?threadID=59669&tstart=15 > that SXCE will continue in foreseeable future. That's where my question was > spawned. As long as ON does not compile on any opensolaris based distro (and Indiana is such a distro), shuting down SXCE would shut down the possibility to compile ON. Jörg -- EMail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (home) Jörg Schilling D-13353 Berlin [EMAIL PROTECTED](uni) [EMAIL PROTECTED] (work) Blog: http://schily.blogspot.com/ URL: http://cdrecord.berlios.de/old/private/ ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/schily ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] IPS on SXCE?
On Mon, May 12, 2008 at 8:27 AM, Ivan Wang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I believe the plan is to discontinue SXCE as soon as > > Indiana contains everything available in SXCE (like > > Jumpstart, text based installer, etc.) > > Alright, I can live with that (Indiana becomes new SXCE) too. But Shawn > stated here > http://www.opensolaris.org/jive/thread.jspa?threadID=59669&tstart=15 > that SXCE will continue in foreseeable future. That's where my question was > spawned. > > Packaging system difference is a difference big enough for me to call the > two distros are "split" from each other. Is is true that I said that, but I don't know what Sun's plans are. My understanding is that OpenSolaris releases are replacing SXDE, but are not replacing SXCE for a long time. No specific plans to changes SXCE have been stated, that I know of. -- Shawn Walker "To err is human -- and to blame it on a computer is even more so." - Robert Orben ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] IPS on SXCE?
> I believe the plan is to discontinue SXCE as soon as > Indiana contains everything available in SXCE (like > Jumpstart, text based installer, etc.) Alright, I can live with that (Indiana becomes new SXCE) too. But Shawn stated here http://www.opensolaris.org/jive/thread.jspa?threadID=59669&tstart=15 that SXCE will continue in foreseeable future. That's where my question was spawned. Packaging system difference is a difference big enough for me to call the two distros are "split" from each other. Ivan. This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] IPS on SXCE?
I believe the plan is to discontinue SXCE as soon as Indiana contains everything available in SXCE (like Jumpstart, text based installer, etc.) This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] IPS on SXCE?
> The title says much of it, is there any plan to bring IPS into SXCE? Or > future Solaris is still based on SVr4 packaging system? > > If there is plan to integrate IPS into SX, any projected build for that? I'd figure that no plans have been made and the people involved in such decisions are looking at Indiana and how it plays out, especially in regards to mixing IPS and SVR4 packages. After all, traditional Solaris is more about staying Unix enough to not break backwards compatibility. -mg ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
